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Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MERCHANDISER: 12:29pm On Feb 19, 2025
Guestmale:
Russia should thank God that Trump was returned to power who is giving them soft landing from a war they started ,had it been it was democrats that won the election and Ukraine got the support of EU the way Russia was getting support from countries like north Korea and Iran,it could have been a shameful end for them. Russia lost many generals in a war against small Ukraine.
You are not smart,you don't know there will be a point the war will get to,Russia won't have any option than to risk everything.
Can you fight for them?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 12:50pm On Feb 19, 2025
Mrfeel:
Putin started a fight he knows he was going to finish the hard way or the easy way he was prepared for it, and he will achieve his objectives, he first took Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 , today nobody talks about Crimea , he is taking more of Ukrainian territory plus have influence over Ukrainian politics and prevent Ukraine from joining NATO , and trump his friend will make it easy for him to achieve that, trump only recognize Russia and china as the only world power on the same level with America he won't engage these two countries in a war
No wonder, Putin prepared to overrun Ukraine in three days. It's now almost three years with collateral damages amounting to thousands on both sides.

Second largest army in the world and Ukraine with no navy chased them off the Black sea. Russia do not even have air superiority over Ukraine. Have you even check pro-Russian sources for the list of daily casualties of Russians.

The North Korean Army was almost decimated by the small Ukrainian army. They took two weeks off the battle field.

As we speak, Kursk is in the hands of Ukraine since last year.

I don't understand what you are happy for. Ukraine is being BETRAYED by her supposed to be strongest Allies so that even if she lost, it wasn't because of Putin but because of Trump
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 12:53pm On Feb 19, 2025
Mrfeel:
A fool is one who starts a fight he knows he can't finish, Biden and all those who supported him are fools , Trump knows funding Ukraine against Russia is a waste of America's hard earned tax payers money, it's better for Russia to be allowed to achieve it's invasion objectives in Ukraine than continue pushing for it to escalate into a world war and put planet earth at risk of nuclear weapons
Please who started this war and what did he do?

Lets Assume that Zelensky did not fight Russia back, you know very well that Putin would still have annexed as minimum the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzia Oblasts of Ukraine?


It is amazing how you Russian orcs suddenly stopped viewing USA and NATO as the enemy but EU. SMH!
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by astonished: 12:54pm On Feb 19, 2025
He doesn't really want to kill his people, as he doesn't have problems with people of Ukrainian, but the commendian president who is dancing to the tone of US/Biden.

He doesn't make sense, the idiot president is hidden somewhere & that's what Putin wants

Hezzyluv:
After this war, I'm not sure Putin would invade any country again. He's tired of it already.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 12:57pm On Feb 19, 2025
astonished:
He doesn't really want to kill his people, as he doesn't have problems with people of Ukrainian, but the commendian president who is dancing to the tone of US/Biden.

He doesn't make sense, the idiot president is hidden somewhere & that's what Putin wants
You are the kind of people who will surrender your family to be raped by your wealthy neighbour rather than upset him.

You would prefer to negotiate whether it's your first or last daughter that should be violated first or your wife

It's just a parable o! Don't be upset!!
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by ChiefOkporghe: 12:59pm On Feb 19, 2025
epainos:
My own take from this new development is that in this life, make sure you are succesful, powerful, and rich. No one will give you any crap.

Gaza War: Israel pays heavily for weapons from the US. Business is business. Not saying they don't have support, but they still pay. While Palestine is all about aids here and there. Trump came on board and supported the stronger nation that he will benefit more from economically and financially. Period.

Russian - Ukraine War: Trump is not ready to drop one single cent for Ukraine anymore. And he thought about it that the best way is to invite the stronger nation to the table. If Ukraine had its money to fight this war, who will tell it to go to places? Nope. Ukraine is already paralysed without US fund, and it has no where to go. OK. Let Zelensky go to the rest of NATO and let them support him. Alright, the UK wants to send down troops there to make sure the agreed peace is carried out..lol. Why can't the UK enforce a reasonable peace that includes Ukraine on the table instead of going there to enforce the peace agreed without Ukriane? Maybe the UK will backout which is a reasonable action to take. LOL. Maybe the rest of NATO can go ahead and support Ukraine without the US. This is what I expect them to do to show that the US does not have the final say. Can they do it?

Hmmm. It seems NATO is nothing without the US. The UK, France, and Germany are nothing if they all cannot do anything. I expect them to show their worth now, and if they can't, mehn..... they are nothing. cheesy

In this life, make sure you are successful oooo. Even in family matters, no one will take your words serious. You go just be a bench warmer in family meetings. Wetin poor man who dem dey support wan talk when big boys and girls drop money? This is the fate of Africa too. This is the fate of black South Africa too, and it is the reason Trump has the gut to say that they are confisticating land of the white. Which land white get for South Africa? cheesy Get money ooo. Walahi. Else, dem go feed you poo and sh*t.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Trueprophet91: 1:20pm On Feb 19, 2025
Rexymania:
If him hear sound of one grenade, him to run 😁😁
grin grin
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by ozoneboy(m): 1:30pm On Feb 19, 2025
I have always known that guy trump is a big idiot,
He is busy shouting America first,but want zelensky to allow Russia to take part of their land as a deal,they guy has always been with puting since the beginning of time.Big idiot
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by GetSenseNow: 1:33pm On Feb 19, 2025
adioolayi:
You are making decisions on behalf of a "Sovereign State" .. without their presencehuh

So, what's Sovereigntyhuh

Ukraine should fight to death!!!
You should go and join them on the battlefield
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MEND001: 1:56pm On Feb 19, 2025
adioolayi:
You are making decisions on behalf of a "Sovereign State" .. without their presencehuh

So, what's Sovereigntyhuh

Ukraine should fight to death!!!
Go to the war front and say this.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by caye(m): 1:58pm On Feb 19, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Bible said when you abuse any one you have killed them in your heart have you abused any one before
You're probably reading a jesuit-edit ; meant to make poor ppl docile.

It's programming.
Jesus himself insulted ppl, who he thought were evil.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MEND001: 2:09pm On Feb 19, 2025
franchasng:
Don't be too sure. Ukraine may likely reject any unfavorable peace deal and EU countries are now considering backing Ukraine fully even as UK makes plans to station military fully in Ukraine.


This Trump's one sided peace deal might turn things messy. Russia should tread with caution, whenever you think all is well with you is when trouble usually strike hardest
If they reject it, what would they fight with? U go donate 9ja weapons to them when Trump back out?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by drerocker: 2:10pm On Feb 19, 2025
Guestmale:
Do you know how many generals Russia lost in this war they actually started.
more informed dan u
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MEND001: 2:25pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
USA is now the good guy and EU the enemy. See how you people think!

Lets Assume that Zelensky did not fight Russia back and capitulatd before Putin,
1. Would Putin still have annexed as minimum the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzia Oblasts of Ukraine?
2. As of today, using military force, has Putin been able to achieve this objective fully?
3. Is it true that much of what Putin has captured has been in ruins through bombardments by Russian soldiers?
4. Will you admit that Russia being the attacking side has lost at least 2 soldiers for every one soldier lost by Ukraine?
Then how come Ukraine have more death than Russia?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MEND001: 2:33pm On Feb 19, 2025
Arrowhead71:
if Russia lost 27 millions souls, then it is not a win,
We called it truce to end the war
Winning is achieving your objectives not how u achieved it
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MEND001: 2:36pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Putin started a fight he couldn't finish without becoming the fool of the century.

It is taking America through Trump to give Putin a face saving exit from the war. Who do you think is calling the Shots here? It is not Putin, it is Trump!


If Ukraine lost, it is because of BETRAYAL and not incompetence!

A war that should last 3 days is almost 3 years with the second greatest army in the world!?
continue crying. Ur tears is sweet.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MEND001: 2:42pm On Feb 19, 2025
SaLongs1:
People supporting Trump and Putin are the most daft and morally bereft idiots left on earth.
Wise man not everyone is foolish like u. So Trump should continue new wasting tax payers money on rubbish. Well u guy in Nigeria don't pay tax so u don't know what it means for 30% of ur bi-weekly pay to be deducted and send to someone who is not useful to u.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by SaLongs1(m): 2:58pm On Feb 19, 2025
MEND001:
Wise man not everyone is foolish like u. So Trump should continue new wasting tax payers money on rubbish. Well u guy in Nigeria don't pay tax so u don't know what it means for 30% of ur bi-weekly pay to be deducted and send to someone who is not useful to u.
People who support racist, whitesupremacists Trump can lie without conscience because they are full of evil. Why has Trump refused to disclose his tax payment like other Presidents?
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 3:22pm On Feb 19, 2025
MEND001:
continue crying. Ur tears is sweet.
Says one who is happy that Putin got a saviour!
LOL!
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 3:22pm On Feb 19, 2025
MEND001:
Then how come Ukraine have more death than Russia?
Only an ignorant person believes that an attacking side has less loses that the defenders!
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MEND001: 3:58pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Only an ignorant person believes that an attacking side has less loses that the defenders!
Oga shut up u are not talking to a novice.. data release by both Ukraine and Russia disputes ur claim. Although high for Russia a supposed super power.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by MEND001: 4:01pm On Feb 19, 2025
SaLongs1:
People who support racist, whitesupremacists Trump can lie without conscience because they are full of evil. Why has Trump refused to disclose his tax payment like other Presidents?
This not about Trump. U can tell Nigeria to sponsor Ukraine with their own money since u guys are father Christmas.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by themanderon: 4:02pm On Feb 19, 2025
adioolayi:
You are making decisions on behalf of a "Sovereign State" .. without their presencehuh

So, what's Sovereigntyhuh

Ukraine should fight to death!!!
You don't know America under Biden instigated the war? The Europeans are afraid of losing out Even Zelensky is unsure of his future. Trump is unsettling everyone of them.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by TenQ: 4:06pm On Feb 19, 2025
MEND001:
Oga shut up u are not talking to a novice.. data release by both Ukraine and Russia disputes ur claim. Although high for Russia a supposed super power.
Only a permanently ignorant person believes that an attacking side has less loses that the defenders!
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by SaLongs1(m): 4:09pm On Feb 19, 2025
MEND001:
This not about Trump. U can tell Nigeria to sponsor Ukraine with their own money since u guys are father Christmas.
It is about the hypocrisy of Trump using his position to get at Zelensky who did not oblige him in his first term when he was witch hunting Biden just as he falsely claimed that he had information that Obama wasn't born in Hawaii too. Trump supporters are vile and evil souls who toxify the earth.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by WriteerNg: 4:39pm On Feb 19, 2025
Arrowhead71:
if Russia lost 27 millions souls, then it is not a win,
We called it truce to end the war
Lol..

Russia wey surround Hitler bunker in Berlin before he shoot himself inside him bunker. Then him remaining Generals surrender.

Russia wey capture Berlin.

Russia wey liberate the largest concentration camps.

Russia wey kill 85% of the Nazis. US kill only 3%.

Russia wey fight on the bloodiest and fiercest battlegrounds (Eastern front).

Hitler remains still dey Moscow museum as we dey talk.

But according to an empty skull like you.... No be win be thathuh 😂 🤣 🤣

Better go take your medicine because you are clearly sick upstairs.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Mrfeel: 4:50pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
Please who started this war and what did he do?

Lets Assume that Zelensky did not fight Russia back, you know very well that Putin would still have annexed as minimum the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson and Zaporizhzia Oblasts of Ukraine?


It is amazing how you Russian orcs suddenly stopped viewing USA and NATO as the enemy but EU. SMH!
Ukraine drifting closer and closer to NATO it's one of the biggest threats to Russia, NATO is still the enemy here
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Feldie: 4:54pm On Feb 19, 2025
alphaconde:
So why wasnt these negotiations and peace talk not done in the beginning
how do you negotiate with someone who comes to your house with guns and tanks making demands of you? Russia lost all the major battles that happened far from their borders that's why they are hoping Trump give them some propaganda victory by offering them a way out of the war they started.
Funniest thing is that I actually supported Russia when they started the war and also tried to explain their failures with cope slops like tactical retreat, feint, tactical regrouping which were the words they used to paint their defeat and withdrawals from Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson etc
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by Mrfeel: 4:57pm On Feb 19, 2025
TenQ:
No wonder, Putin prepared to overrun Ukraine in three days. It's now almost three years with collateral damages amounting to thousands on both sides.

Second largest army in the world and Ukraine with no navy chased them off the Black sea. Russia do not even have air superiority over Ukraine. Have you even check pro-Russian sources for the list of daily casualties of Russians.

The North Korean Army was almost decimated by the small Ukrainian army. They took two weeks off the battle field.

As we speak, Kursk is in the hands of Ukraine since last year.

I don't understand what you are happy for. Ukraine is being BETRAYED by her supposed to be strongest Allies so that even if she lost, it wasn't because of Putin but because of Trump
Putin is not fighting Ukraine, Putin is fighting NATO Ukraine is just the battlefield, when two elephants fight the ground suffers more , like I said Putin will achieve all it's invasion objectives in Ukraine , war is not sport where rules are layed down on how the game can be played fairly, there is no fairness in war
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by CaptainGo: 5:41pm On Feb 19, 2025
sweetkev:
The thing is that Trump never forgets people who stood by him or helped him to win election. Putin interfered in his first election against Hillary Clinton and won the election. So he will stand with Russia no matter what.
angry

My brother, in this life, learn to think for yourself. Don't swallow everything the media tells u hook, line, and sinker.
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by CaptainGo: 5:42pm On Feb 19, 2025
alphaconde:
I dont know if its cowardice, but I would not allow my people die in numbers in the course of fighting for anything
I agree with you
Re: Trump Blames Ukraine Over War With Russia, Saying It Could Have Made A Deal by IjeBos(m): 6:07pm On Feb 19, 2025
CaptainGo:
angry

My brother, in this life, learn to think for yourself. Don't swallow everything the media tells u hook, line, and sinker.
You may want to take your own advice.
How does this action help the US?
It doesn't.
The US is weaker today than it has ever been.
China is sitting back, laughing.
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