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Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by ogaemma: 1:09pm On Feb 21, 2025
Peterobiisathie:
I’m old enough to be your fada
If you are old enough to be my father and you still come here to post nonsense and senseless comments.
Sorry, is obvious you lived a wasted life.
Because anyone of my father's age right now will talk sense like an elder.
Sorry for a wasted destiny.
May God restore your life even in your miserable old age.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by donbenie(m): 1:11pm On Feb 21, 2025
EmperorCaesar:
cheesy
Na confirm beating Abiola beat this guy

Na like thief


That was the only Eastern state that voted him. Compare it to South South where they all voted him
Tofa by numbers, won in that Eastern region
Guess Rivers State with a win for Tofa is in Bermuda Triangle?

Agenda must agend.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Lanre1st(m): 1:15pm On Feb 21, 2025
This is open secret, what special.

Election results was announced, only for IBB to annulled the election result and made himself a first military President
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by BreconHills(m): 1:19pm On Feb 21, 2025
PHIPEX:
And those thousands of votes from the Eastern States were by ghosts from your village right? They were not Igbos giving over 40% to Abiola and 57% in Anambra
We are talking about annulment and you are talking about votes. Who were the principal characters in the efforts to see that the election did not hold? Who did the forces against the election use?

Arthur Nzeribe (ABN) and Clement Akpamgbo (Att-Gen) The judge who gave the midnight ruling Justice Ikpeme had worked in Clement Akpamgbo's chambers. These were the troika supported by Abacha that provided the foundation for the annulment of the 1993 election.

This is our history. These are facts. The blood of those that died during this period demands that history should not be twisted.

You can disavow these three people but you cannot say that they did not do what they did.

I am sorry but I won't continue this. IBB's book is there. There are also very useful extracts from the book on NL. Maybe you should read them.

We don't have to like our history, but we shouldn't be revising it. Yes there were noble men from across Nigeria who stood for democracy across all the regions but regarding the troika - history is history. We have to accept and learn it's lessons.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by crossbreedwears(m): 1:20pm On Feb 21, 2025
For the fact you know the truth and you decided to ignore then you're the most foolish person on NL. Even the judges were smiling when his lawyers could not defend their claims. It is a big shame
HilsonDick:
Judging by our comments here, it is obvious you're more stupid. You're not only just stupid but idiotic, moronic and foolish
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by MrNipplesLover(m): 1:27pm On Feb 21, 2025
I remember during that period, I traveled to Ibadan with one girl we were dating then...

We spent almost 3 months at my grand dad's house and did all sort of crazy things...

We used to fvck without condoms...

That girl loved me like mad and the sex we normally had made me love only her...

Fine babe, petite and slim, but very very sexually energetic...

She had small boobs and I wasn't a fan of boobs sucking then...

I would romance small and just go straight to banging...

That babe will never forget wetin I take her pussy do...

She liked me like crazy...

Good old days, damn!....
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by IyfeNamikaze(m): 1:30pm On Feb 21, 2025
TheChameleon:
grin

There are 2 Classes in Nigeria: The Rulers and the Slaves.

Rulers - Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba, Ijaw......

Slaves - grin
Look at this shameless Yoruba trying to do attach by force on the ijaw.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by franvincoop: 1:36pm On Feb 21, 2025
After reading through this thread looking for something, I finally found it in your comments.

MKO was in cahoots with all that happened to Shagari government, the coups by Buhari and IBB.
Buhari military government hated drug dealers and arranged firing squads for dem via Decree 20, don't 4get his WAI.
MKO and especially IBB who was involved in the drug trade, removed Buhari from power so that drug dealers including his wife Maryam could return back to business and the evidence is in the Dele Giwa bomb assassination but before that the Gloria Okon death in custody whose investigation Buhari refused to let go and which resulted in the IBB coup because the investigation was leading to Maryam Babangida.

Don't ever 4get that the June 12 election of MKO was in 1993 and Tpain forfeited 460,000 usd drug money in that same 1993 and you and I know that Tpain and MKO were close.

Abacha was never happy with either IBB nor MKO cuz of that coup and the imprisonment of Buhari by IBB but he held his cards close to his chest and waited for any opportunity to separate the two.
The opportunity came when MKO won the nomination of the SDP.
IBB and Abacha wanted Tofa to win and when the results were showing that MKO would win, they cancelled the results.
Not only that, IBB handed over power to an interim government of Shonekan with zero legitimacy, if IBB wanted peace in Nigeria, ask him why he did not hand over power to MKO his trusted friend?
But no, they never wanted MKO - a sponsor and beneficiary of coups to become a President.
By handing over power to Shonekan with no legitimacy, the evil genius of Minna was giving an assist to Abacha to take over, who promptly appointed Buhari into the PTF.
Other notable people in this saga then include David Mark, Anenih, OBJ and Nzeribe the devil himself.

IBB and Abacha paid MKO back in his own coin.
IBB and Abacha had vowed that they could never allow MKO to ever be President and Abacha even had MKO killed to secure his power because if MKO was still alive, Abacha was sure that even from jail MKO was able to sponsor another coup to remove Abacha from power.

Kudos to you Barteze for the truth, you must be atleast than 50 years old today to know this.
You can't find such facts on Google.
Truth is dispassionate and knows not tribe nor race.



Barteze:
Whatsoever a man sows he shall reap. Apart from the first two coups and probably the failed coup of 1995 Abiola financed every other coup in Nigeria, first by using his media to discredit the government making it very unpopular among the people that was why people would troop to the street in jubilation after a successful coup.
Nothing Babagida said in his book that I haven't read before in Max Siollun books:
1. Oil, Politics and Violence - Nigeria's Military Coup Culture (1966 - 1979).
2. Soldiers of Fortune - Nigerian Politics from Buhari to Babangida (1983 - 1993).
3. Nigeria's Soldiers of Fortune - The Abacha and Obasanjo years.
These books are enriched with Nigeria history.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Gandrova: 1:37pm On Feb 21, 2025
Peterobiisathie:
you mumu die
You are the biggest mumu. Because he said the truth.
Probably you were still sucking your moma's breast to know about it
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Treasure17(m): 1:38pm On Feb 21, 2025
This man will not die well with his stupid confession. Someone who should be languishing in the bottomless prison.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Olatundex22(m): 1:41pm On Feb 21, 2025
Where’s all the werey that always claim they voted MKO Abiola that time 😂😂😂 the results is out oooo. Now we all can see the state results now. The hate from that side no bi today
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by benjaminlawson(m): 1:47pm On Feb 21, 2025
IBB should tell Nigerians the offence committed by those coup plotters that make him to eliminate them, someone like Mamman Vatsa, Gideon Okar etc. and punishment is due to him also this confession.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Image123(m): 1:54pm On Feb 21, 2025
PHIPEX:
Go and ask Tinubu that said its Yoruba turn and his turn.

I can bet you have never voted an Igbo man in your life for tribal reasons
Tinubu said it is HIS turn(and he was referring to an internal APC agreement that he had with Buhari. He never used that in the national campaigns), he did not mention tribe. No need to lie to make a point.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by ElevationD:
BreconHills:
I have told you the way out and you are still speculating.

The names of the people who did not want the election to hold at all and the names of those who supported the annulment are there. Their ethnicity is there.

Talking about Lagos votes is snatching at straws. We are talking of clear and dedicated efforts to prevent the election. If Ikpeme's midnight ruling in favour of Nzeribes ABN had not been granted and supported by the AG there would have been no grounds for annulment at all.

How people voted or didn't vote is irrelevant.

True Professor Nwosu was a man of great principal. But based on the number of his tribe who took active and decisive part in the annulment, I think you should cool your jets and just accept this fact as a part of Nigerias history.

No need for you to fight anyone's war. Most of these people are dead. Let it go.

I did not need to be told about that election as I was already 32 at the time and witnessed it firsthand.
Your age makes me want to talk about this with you. I would never discuss this with someone who did not have a first hand experience.

I am surprised that you took ethnicity into account when looking at the events of June 1993.

To begin with, can you tell us the names of those who objected to the election? Can you tell us their ethnicity? Can you also tell us about those of MKOs tribe who were against him? Can you mention the name of the first person who we were told objected to MKO’s Presidential intention? Did you deliberately overlook Abiola’s kinsmen who worked against him?

By the way, aside from the religious disagreements that had started coming up, where did you find the tribal disagreement? NRC’s VP candidate was from the SE and yet the aggregate showed that the people of the SE voted for Abiola/Kingibe. Is that correct it not?

Did you see the total number of votes counted across the SE? Did you think about the same tribe, who voted in Delta, Rivers and other states for the same Abiola who they believed in? Statistics are there to show you.

Now have you soon forgotten that that Abiola’s family accused NADECO of working against their father?

By the way, look through this link and give your opinion:

https://saharareporters.com/2021/06/12/meet-judases-june-12-who-betrayed-mko-abiola#

Why have you not considered that Justice Ikpeme did not have a choice with his midnight ruling, seeing that he was a judge under a military government?

Professor Nwosu was in the middle of reading out the results when he was stopped, remember? Why did he not continue, if he would dare in a military government? If IBB would not spare his childhood friend Mamman Vatsa in 1990, why would he spare Ikpeama and Nwosu?

We are not fighting anyone’s war. Let’s look at history and use the opportunity to correct certain misunderstandings with decorum. Let’s also use the opportunity to learn more about the things that we never knew.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by vanitybutiwanti: 2:02pm On Feb 21, 2025
Quelme:
I wish someone had dropped a nuke in that venue yesterday.

All the problems of Nigeria would have been solved in one full swoop.
why do you guys always think if you kill certain individuals in Nigeria, the countries problem will end?

What's the rational behind such think especially when you have 200 million persons waiting for their turn to eat the national cake?
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by tishbite43: 2:31pm On Feb 21, 2025
ogaemma:
Agreed Abacha aborted the Gideon Orka coup. That was part of his duty and responsibilities to his superior Officer and Commander in Chief and as a serving GOC.
In case you don't know, the Gideon Orka coup was plotted by junior officers.
It means, if the coup had succeeded, all the officer's from the rank of Lt Colonel upwards will have gone down which would have included Abacha.
So Abacha also technically saved himself and his job.
Oga, Abacha was never a defacto Head of State.
IBB ruled NIGERIA like an Emperor.
He was the most powerful president in Africa throughout his reign in government.
IBB was fully in charge of his game and plans.
He masterminded everything that played out during his regime.
Remember the figurative words he used when he finally bowed to pressure.
He said and I quote - I STEP ASIDE.
IBB was a master planner.
One of the best military intelligence officer The NIGERIA Army have ever produced.
From 1966, as a young Army officer, IBB was already involved in military coup in Nigeria.
I will be the last person to fall to his 80 years old lies.
Do you realize that Abacha would have taken over power after quashing the coup d'etat in 1989?
He was already in charge. He just brought back IBB.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by mukthar2000(m): 2:39pm On Feb 21, 2025
Kaii , IBB, ABACHA AND nothern helders are very wicked and heartless.

I wish abacha is alive to canter maradona lies agains him, but i belive after some days Abacha families will come out to deffend Abach.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by ValarDoharis: 2:57pm On Feb 21, 2025
Babangida had the audacity to do this after 33yrs and Nigerian elites are applauding him?
TheDemola:
https://x.com/Mario9jaa/status/1892856305154465987?t=46TYhwWFaqSoi-Og2hj1rQ&s=19


Earlier: https://www.nairaland.com/8347401/mko-abiola-won-june-12
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by ValarDoharis: 2:59pm On Feb 21, 2025
IBB is blaming Abacha because he is dead.

All past military head of states should not be recognized as past heads of states but coupists
ogaemma:
IBB Lies from the pit of hell 🔥.
That book is a bunch of deception and hypocrisy.
See what a Commander in Chief is saying.
IBB was the Commander in Chief and also in rank senior to Abacha.
Why did he not deal with Abacha the ruthless way he dealt with Mamman Vatsa.
Is so unfortunate that people of high caliber will gather to listen to such acidic lies of 32 year's.
IBB is yet to tell NIGERIANS the real TRUTH.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Shattuck(m): 3:07pm On Feb 21, 2025
EmperorCaesar:
cheesy
Na confirm beating Abiola beat this guy

Na like thief


That was the only Eastern state that voted him. Compare it to South South where they all voted him
Tofa by numbers, won in that Eastern region
tofa's running mate was igbo yet you can see the difference wasn't much less than 10 percent difference, yet you guys will always try to paint a negative picture about the south easterners even the NEC chairman was igbo, despite the VP candidate of tofa being igbo yet abiola got almost half of the entire vote cast in the east.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Barteze: 3:10pm On Feb 21, 2025
franvincoop:
After reading through this thread looking for something, I finally found it in your comments.

MKO was in cahoots with all that happened to Shagari government, the coups by Buhari and IBB.
Buhari military government hated drug dealers and arranged firing squads for dem via Decree 20, don't 4get his WAI.
MKO and especially IBB who was involved in the drug trade, removed Buhari from power so that drug dealers including his wife Maryam could return back to business and the evidence is in the Dele Giwa bomb assassination but before that the Gloria Okon death in custody whose investigation Buhari refused to let go and which resulted in the IBB coup because the investigation was leading to Maryam Babangida.

Don't ever 4get that the June 12 election of MKO was in 1993 and Tpain forfeited 460,000 usd drug money in that same 1993 and you and I know that Tpain and MKO were close.

Abacha was never happy with either IBB nor MKO cuz of that coup and the imprisonment of Buhari by IBB but he held his cards close to his chest and waited for any opportunity to separate the two.
The opportunity came when MKO won the nomination of the SDP.
IBB and Abacha wanted Tofa to win and when the results were showing that MKO would win, they cancelled the results.
Not only that, IBB handed over power to an interim government of Shonekan with zero legitimacy, if IBB wanted peace in Nigeria, ask him why he did not hand over power to MKO his trusted friend?
But no, they never wanted MKO - a sponsor and beneficiary of coups to become a President.
By handing over power to Shonekan with no legitimacy, the evil genius of Minna was giving an assist to Abacha to take over, who promptly appointed Buhari into the PTF.
Other notable people in this saga then include David Mark, Anenih, OBJ and Nzeribe the devil himself.

IBB and Abacha paid MKO back in his own coin.
IBB and Abacha had vowed that they could never allow MKO to ever be President and Abacha even had MKO killed to secure his power because if MKO was still alive, Abacha was sure that even from jail MKO was able to sponsor another coup to remove Abacha from power.

Kudos to you Barteze for the truth, you must be atleast than 50 years old today to know this.
You can't find such facts on Google.
Truth is dispassionate and knows not tribe nor race.
Thank you my oga. Your write up is enlightening too I didn't want to say much in my own post to avoid ban or attack by emotional people.
I'm just a little above 40 but I used to read a lot back in the day. The saying that if you want to hide information you should put it in writing does not apply to me ooh unless now that the "worries of life" have set in.
Thanks for your appreciation.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by EMIOMOADEOYE: 3:15pm On Feb 21, 2025
TheDemola:
https://x.com/Mario9jaa/status/1892856305154465987?t=46TYhwWFaqSoi-Og2hj1rQ&s=19


Earlier: https://www.nairaland.com/8347401/mko-abiola-won-june-12
The reality is that the glory of MKO lies only in his post-humous state.

MKO would really not have been very different. As far as i am concerned, Obasanjo was and is the best post military era president Nigeria ever had.

I doubt that MKO would have been able do better.

Let us not forget that IBB had already don so much damage, a damage that Buhari started during his short lived tenure.

Going down history, I think the annulment of the 1992 election was not the greatest travesty. It was the fact that Awolowo never had the chance to be President. The fact that the East and the West allowed a matter that could have been amicably resolved to alter the course of history.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by ogaemma: 3:17pm On Feb 21, 2025
ValarDoharis:
IBB is blaming Abacha because he is dead.

All past military head of states should not be recognized as past heads of states but coupists
God bless you great mind.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by PHIPEX(m): 3:29pm On Feb 21, 2025
BreconHills:
We are talking about annulment and you are talking about votes. Who were the principal characters in the efforts to see that the election did not hold? Who did the forces against the election use?

Arthur Nzeribe (ABN) and Clement Akpamgbo (Att-Gen) The judge who gave the midnight ruling Justice Ikpeme had worked in Clement Akpamgbo's chambers. These were the troika supported by Abacha that provided the foundation for the annulment of the 1993 election.

This is our history. These are facts. The blood of those that died during this period demands that history should not be twisted.

You can disavow these three people but you cannot say that they did not do what they did.

I am sorry but I won't continue this. IBB's book is there. There are also very useful extracts from the book on NL. Maybe you should read them.

We don't have to like our history, but we shouldn't be revising it. Yes there were noble men from across Nigeria who stood for democracy across all the regions but regarding the troika - history is history. We have to accept and learn it's lessons.
Who are the "we"? Check the title of the thread?

SE gave Abiola 740k votes and gave Tofa 790k votes even though an Igbo was a VP to Tofa but ingrate like you will open your mouth wide to talk trash. You mentioned 3 names supporting the govt but discounted hundreds of thousands of Igbos that supported Abiola, isn't that stupid to say? How about the Yorubas that supported the govt against Abiola? How about those Yoruba that accepted to serve in Abacha's govt, isnt that betrayal? How about Shonekan that shouldnhave handed over to Abiola? Have you ever voted an Igbo man in any election since you were born?

This is not the era of revising history
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Shattuck(m): 3:32pm On Feb 21, 2025
StJasper:
Apart from Anambra, other Southeastern states voted for Tofa.
This thing no be today thing, e don tey.
the VP candidate to tofa was igbo yet abiola still got almost half of the votes in the entire south Eastern state, compare to your folks who shamelessly voted in a kleptomaniac drug Lord massively because he is from your tribe, no be today true true, e don tey, you guys always try to re- write history with your hatred for the igbos, if the igbos have a VP candidate under tofa but yet still gave almost half of their entire vote to abiola that tells every sane mind that they weren't tribalistic. But Ronu miscreants will always try to rewrite history.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Shattuck(m): 3:35pm On Feb 21, 2025
PHIPEX:
Who are the "we"? Check the title of the thread?

SE gave Abiola 740k votes and gave Tofa 790k votes even though an Igbo was a VP to Tofa but ingrate like you will open your mouth wide to talk trash. You mentioned 3 names supporting the govt butndiscounted hundreds of thousands that supported Abiola, isn't that stupid to say? How aboutnthe Yorubas that supported the govt against Abiola? How about those Yoruba that accepted to serve in Abacha's govt, isnt that betrayal? How about Shonekan that shouldnhave handed over to Abiola?

This is not the era of revising history
bro just leave that guy alone for the fact that the elections was a close call in the south east despite the VP candidate of tofa being igbo tells all the story, but tribalist like the idiot has prejudiced hate, logic and facts can't change it, I am not igbo but I can draw conclusion just from the results.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Bluntemperor: 3:47pm On Feb 21, 2025
PresidObi:
God bless Prof. Humphrey Nwosu. Man of truth.
Very clear results announced on time even without the use of today's technology. Some people are real professors,.
But why Can't your Man,Nwosu be Courageous Enough to declare the Results and dammed the Consequences- for the Americans will Never take the Shit from anyone!
Just an Opinion.
Did you see what happened during 9/11.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by ogaemma: 3:48pm On Feb 21, 2025
tishbite43:
Do you realize that Abacha would have taken over power after quashing the coup d'etat in 1989?
He was already in charge. He just brought back IBB.
Sir, please go down memory lane again and again.
Abacha counter the coup.
Any attempt for Abacha to use that opportunity to take over Government would have led to a more bloodied coup.
Remember there were other Service Chief's that were still Ahead of Abacha and Senior to him.
The likes of General Domkat Bali.
If you listen to Abacha's speech after frustrating the Gideon Orka coup, it was obvious Abacha did the needful to prove his loyalty to IBB.
So there was no way Abacha would have taken over government suddenly.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Ojetayo17(m): 4:07pm On Feb 21, 2025
He didn't have rest of mind up til today because he knew the gravity of his past events, his conscience is worrying him so bad to the extent that he lunch a book reference to June 12 election. Imagine if things are not truncated that year Nigeria would have moved far more than we are now..... Even me I would be proud as a Nigeria citizen........ but this foolish yeye Man came up to disrupt what is Good for Us.... We're still rolling in that mess uptil today.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by donbuchi1(m): 4:33pm On Feb 21, 2025
Sometimes the devil is merciful and weak to that demon who had stayed with him true and true. Remember that the demon stopped a few coups for the devil to remain in power. I clearly think that it was an unwritten agreement and Mr devil could not have been powerful to stop the demon.
What was the agreement, do whatever you like, I, the demon most also become the devil when u step aside! Don't retire me, put a weak man as interim president and leave the rest for me.

ogaemma:
IBB Lies from the pit of hell 🔥.
That book is a bunch of deception and hypocrisy.
See what a Commander in Chief is saying.
IBB was the Commander in Chief and also in rank senior to Abacha.
Why did he not deal with Abacha the ruthless way he dealt with Mamman Vatsa.
Is so unfortunate that people of high caliber will gather to listen to such acidic lies of 32 year's.
IBB is yet to tell NIGERIANS the real TRUTH.
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by Franky9584(m): 4:33pm On Feb 21, 2025
Medicine after d3ath!
He is the one that kept us in this mess today.
Had it been that election was announced right. All this rubbish we see in today politics won't be there
Re: Babangida's Autobiography: Results Of 1993 Elections "Won" By MKO Abiola by AkpaMgbor(m): 4:40pm On Feb 21, 2025
wellmax:
South east always in support of north against SW
Chaii YORUBA!! Can you guys for once in your entire existence be honest?? Just once! Tofa won with 4% in the east despite fielding an Igbo VP, he even lost anambra to Abiola despite that! And the man who defied all threats and called the Abiola as the winner was still an Igbo man BUT YET the Igbo man is your enemy while those who actually truncated the victory of your son isn’t?? My gawd!
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