₦airaland Forum

Omoboricash:
Before i could beleive this narrative, can we have the name of victim of that coup and also the beneficiary of the coup. Let compare and contrast. Then we can draw our conclusion.
By mere just putting out statement without presenting fact and fugure would not go well with me.

COFFINSELLER:
https://x.com/ruffydfire/status/1893163978831896800?s=19[/quote]but they were Igbo masterminds. The atrocity and partiality were too obvious

Mvnster:
This would only make sense if the major actors where from the north, west and midwest and majority of the victims where from the east, you cant twist bare facts with propaganda.

OldNORSE:
DONT attempt to weaken this revelation by attaching Rufai’s name like he was the one who said it. BABANGIDA who was part and parcel of the Army and also a beneficiary of the coup said it with his full chest!

Just like clockwork, hundreds of threads created yesterday naming IBB as the one who said it was ignored for the one naming Rufai Oseni. Nairaland, una no dey hide una bigotry again. This one is glaring for the world to see!

Afolue:
but aguiyi ironsi made it look too obvious on grounds of partiality after the failed coup when he was made the prime minister. What else could have been written as a cover up beyond the reality of how affairs were going. Why again was ojukwu furious after the coup plotters were executed now declaring Biafra. Let’s be straight to the point in dealings. Even though we all sympathize of the unfortunate incidence over the years, Every scene of it were all clear, simple and straightforward.

masterfactor:
Lies from the PIT of hell, it was an Igbo coup, nobody should twist history.

hafeeanubasy:
😆.....That doesn't even make sense!

SmartyPants:
What are you saying? You start by saying there has not been any ethnic coup - then immediately talk about Ironsi, who was clearly of the same ethnicity as the majority of the plotters. That is baffling.

Next, you spend the body of your post citing examples of transitions of power between different religions. Ethnicity is not the same as religion. This is equally baffling, as it suggests that you were unable to find any examples to truly reflect your point. Which should suggest that you have an idea that your point is wrong.

Then, a key pillar of your premise is that in Nigeria, the beneficiaries of coups have been separated from their perpetrators. This is only true of the 1966 January and July coups. In subsequent coups, the beneficiaries were the lead perpetrators, being Buhari, Babangida, and Abacha.

You finally ended with what must be seen as an own goal. Since Ironsi was of the same ethnic stock as those who carried out the first coup, and other coups then, according to your (wrong) assertion, did not have beneficiaries of the same ethnic stock as the perpetrators, does this not then reinforce the Igbo coup narrative?

I don't understand what point you're making here.

omooba969:
You've only narrated the series of events but failed to argue why it wasn't an igbo coup.

omooba969:
You're now claiming the coup had nothing to do with names but titles, how can you even separate the identities of the coup plotters from the coup plotters?

Ojuntana:
Identity is not what drives a coup
If it is, it will be a wazobia coup

Mrflyguy:
Why was Nnamdi Azikwe not part of the victim ? Why did aguiyi irosi didn't judge the coup plotter as expected by the masses ?

omooba969:
I don't think you understand my response to your comment.

BafanaBafana:
You don't know anything.
Gibson Jalo is from Adamawa, he was never part of the coup.
The coup was an Igbo agenda. They were worried about how powerful Ahmadu Bello was. It didn't sit well with them that Azikiwe was just a figure head.
Go and read please

Ojuntana:
I don't think you understand my comment

GetSenseNow:
People who participated in the coup have come out to say it wasn't an Igbo coup but you, who might not even have been born then, are coming to claim otherwise just to suit your useless narratives of propagating hate against the Igbos.
Funny enough, the purpose of the coup was to install a Yoruba man as president but you people always leave that out because it doesn't suit your agenda.

Keep believing your lies

Ojuntana:
How many times have you seen soldiers support civilians against their fellow soldiers?
It's common sense that espirit de Corps exist among soldiers

masterfactor:
Lies from the PIT of hell, it was an Igbo coup, nobody should twist history.

SmartyPants:
What are you saying? You start by saying there has not been any ethnic coup - then immediately talk about Ironsi, who was clearly of the same ethnicity as the majority of the plotters. That is baffling.

Next, you spend the body of your post citing examples of transitions of power between different religions. Ethnicity is not the same as religion. This is equally baffling, as it suggests that you were unable to find any examples to truly reflect your point. Which should suggest that you have an idea that your point is wrong.

Then, a key pillar of your premise is that in Nigeria, the beneficiaries of coups have been separated from their perpetrators. This is only true of the 1966 January and July coups. In subsequent coups, the beneficiaries were the lead perpetrators, being Buhari, Babangida, and Abacha.

You finally ended with what must be seen as an own goal. Since Ironsi was of the same ethnic stock as those who carried out the first coup, and other coups then, according to your (wrong) assertion, did not have beneficiaries of the same ethnic stock as the perpetrators, does this not then reinforce the Igbo coup narrative?

I don't understand what point you're making here.

phoenix45:
nobody cares. it's only a fool that tries to rub a stupid Yoruba man ego. go with whatever hatred you have. foolish boy.

Orch1981:
There has never been an ethnic coup in Nigeria

Nigeria's military was too colonised to play along tribal lines in those days

Note this:
Aguiyi Ironsi became the first military head after the Igbo coup which killed two northern Muslims

He was killed in July in a counter coup and the man who emerged after him was a northern Christian who went on to become the longest serving military head of state we had.

He was removed and his replacement was a northern Muslim who barely lasted six months before he was also killed in a countercoup and the beneficiary was a southern Christian.

If you look at the trends of the aftermath of each coup, you'll notice the ultimate beneficiaries are not usually from the ethnic stock of those who carried out the coup

omooba969:
Trash

IBB knows you don't have sense.

Ojuntana:
Always learn to read and understand before you make comments
I pointed out the fact that the beneficiaries of the coup emerged in order of seniority not ethnicity
The examples I gave was to show how the drivers of the coup where not always the beneficiaries
Go back and read slowly ok

There has never been an ethnic coup in Nigeria

Nigeria's military was too colonised to play along tribal lines in those days

Note this:
Aguiyi Ironsi became the first military head after the Igbo coup which killed two northern Muslims

He was killed in July in a counter coup and the man who emerged after him was a northern Christian who went on to become the longest serving military head of state we had.

He was removed and his replacement was a northern Muslim who barely lasted six months before he was also killed in a countercoup and the beneficiary was a southern Christian.

If you look at the trends of the aftermath of each coup, you'll notice the ultimate beneficiaries are not usually from the ethnic stock of those who carried out the coup

Funkyswagzz:
Chai na so dis IBB book dey pain una. May God never allow me to do anything with any yoruba person ever in this world

omooba969:
I'm a Yorùbá man and we go run things together insha Allah.

Ojuntana:
Always learn to read and understand before you make comments
I pointed out the fact that the beneficiaries of the coup emerged in order of seniority not ethnicity
The examples I gave was to show how the drivers of the coup where not always the beneficiaries
Go back and read slowly ok

Funkyswagzz:
God forbid

OldNORSE:
DONT attempt to weaken this revelation by attaching Rufai’s name like he was the one who said it. BABANGIDA who was part and parcel of the Army and also a beneficiary of the coup said it with his full chest!

Just like clockwork, hundreds of threads created yesterday naming IBB as the one who said it was ignored for the one naming Rufai Oseni. Nairaland, una no dey hide una bigotry again. This one is glaring for the world to see!