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SeraphicWind:
Hello Sir, I don't think I am spreading a false narrative. I have seen churches in Nigeria send homosexuals away especially the protestant churches. You can even search online. You may see pastor doing this.

As recent as last year, there was a great hullabaloo when the Catholic Pope mandated catholic priests to bless homosexuals. What can you say about this?

SeraphicWind:
Hello Sir, I don't think I am spreading a false narrative. I have seen churches in Nigeria send homosexuals away especially the protestant churches. You can even search online. You may see pastor doing this.

As recent as last year, there was a great hullabaloo when t[b]he Catholic Pope mandated catholic priests to bless homosexuals[/b]. What can you say about this?

waternogatenemy:
THAT COMMENT IS IN ORDER, U DONT GO TO CHURCH TO CHANGE THE WORD OF GOD.



Matthew 24:35 In-Context
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.


HOMOSEXUALS HAVE A SPIRIT OF DECEPTION AND THAT ITSELF IS A DRAGON CALLED LUCIFER HIMSELF.


U WILL HERE THINGS LIKE THE BELOW.





ALL THIS IS DECEPTION AND THEY WILL EVEN SHAPE SHIFT INTO A WOMAN JUST TO DECIEVE.

THEIR VOICE AND WALKING POSTURE ALTERED TO DECIEVE.

NO BE SMALL THING

StillDtruth:
I say, it is right to throw them out.

God can never accept abominations

Maybe if it is confirmed that they have cleaned up. And that is still a maybe.

SeraphicWind:
Your name is Peter. Where is it from? Anyways;

Luke 15:7

"I tell you, in the same way there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous people who have no need of repentance."

I repeat; Not one soul should be lost to the devil no matter their disposition to their sinful nature.

It is not them at work. It is the bad spirit inside them.

The attention of the Church should be focused on that spirit at work in them.

Most times, those spirits binds strongly onto them and makes them think what they are doing is acceptable before God.

Just so you know, the Catholic church knows and believes more in the Bible far more than other Christian churches.

Asides Bible, there are also revelations and traditions. That is if you want to believe.

If the Catholic church did not face the wars it faced, you may not even be a Christian today.

waternogatenemy:
DUDE, IF I KILLED SOMEONE, I KNOW IT IS WRONG, I'M NOT GOING ABOUT TELLING ANYBODY THAT IT IS ME AND OK.

IF I RAPED A WOMAN, I KNOW IT IS WRONG, I'M NOT GOIUNG AROUND SAYING IT IS OK.

IF I TOLD A LIE I KNOW IT IS WRONG I'M NOT GOING AROUND SAYING IT IS OK.

THAT IS Y WE PRAY AND ASK FOR FORGIVENESS, FOR SHORT COMINGS.

U ARE HERE ARGUING TO BE RECIEVING SERMEN INSIDE YOUR SHIT HOLE.

What about lieing, backbiting, cheating and stealing that you do everyday? You are not without sin, so what gives you your bloated and empty sense of superiority Abeg rest.

And also I don't know what planet you live on, but straight people also have anal sex. Even straight married couples. So come down from that rickety high horse you are deceiving yourself with.

Lovelyflower:
lol the word is in order in your eyes and in religious understanding. Now let's reason this first, that's is not scriptural, and is against Jesus fellowship, because Jesus Christ don't judge that way and we shouldn't hens we are CHRISTIANs , the said unrepentant person is not coming to worship the judgemental fanatic person but God.

Now the interesting path. If you lie and you accept that you are a liar then you are accepted in the church, then you go back and lie again and again, dear you are not different from the self acclaimed unrepentant gay man.

We all should leave people to their sins as long as they are not killing or causing any harm to anyone. Is between them and God

[/color] Don't you think God will judge you for chasing his creature out of his house? [color=#000000] what will you answer him

peteregwu:
"we don't pray to Mary, we pray to God through Mary". You just said what I am condemning. You don't pray to god through Mary. Jesus commanded that we pray in his name and not through Mary. Wow! I think I am done here.

Matthew 18:20 KJV
"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

Mark 16:17 KJV
"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;"

John 14:13 KJV
"And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son."

John 16:23 KJV
"And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you."

You can see that the only name accepted by God and sealed through which we can pray is the name of Jesus and not any other. You are being deceived. Someone who is praying in the name of Mary is also indirectly worshipping mary and if you die in such situation you will be cast into hell. Repent and be saved.

allthingsgood:
What about lieing, backbiting, cheating and stealing that you do everyday? You are not without sin, so what gives you your bloated and empty sense of superiority Abeg rest.

And also I don't know what planet you live on, but straight people also have anal sex. Even straight married couples. So come down from that rickety high horse you are deceiving yourself with.

ClassicEvilSpir:
Rehabilitating homosexuals is like trying to turn a straight man, gay. Easier said than done.

SeraphicWind:
First and Foremost, this conversation is for matured and intelligent minds

immaculatesense:
Sir, I respect the fact that you want to be civil. But it is impossible to please men and look good at the expense of God's irrevocable standard.
My submission:
On homosexuals. Everyone deserves salvation and God's desire is that all men be save. So, if a man who is addicted to sleeping with a man and realizes that his actions are wrong but finds it difficult to help himself no matter how long he tried. If such a person comes to church with the hold of freedom through Christ from that addiction like any other addiction, such a man should not be crucified but assisted by the church to win the war over that sin. John 8:1-11. Pay attention to verse 10 but don't neglect verse 11.
But this is where the word of God should be carefully divided. In case the homosexual comes to church to fellowship with the belief that he is doing nothing wrong claiming that was how he was created or believing that Christ had paid it all and thus he can live anyhow. Such a man should be excommunicated from the church or fellowship. A little yeast leavens the whole lump and that is the standard of scriptures. 1 Corinthians 5:1-7.
You may disagree, I respect your view and I have made mine in a polite way.
God bless you.

dammyz101:
U can't have homosexuality without homosexuals. So what are u really saying?

SeraphicWind:
First and Foremost, this conversation is for matured and intelligent minds. Barbarians should do well to stay off this thread.

It is my humble opinion that homosexuals should be allowed to attend masses and services in Christianity. Please do not misunderstand me.

There is a great difference between HOMOSEXUALITY and HOMOSEXUALS. A homosexual is one that practices homosexuality. Homosexuality is the act of a man sleeping with his fellow man. Same applies for women.

Over my 30 years of journeying in the spirit and studying elemental forces, I have come to realise that 95% of every human action be it good or bad is SPIRIT INFLUNCED. External forces and spirits exert a great influence on the affairs of men. I may not have time to go deep into this proposition but it is true based on my own personal journey.

I have seen a killer repent and become a TRUE CHILD OF GOD. I have seen a prostitute disengage from prostitution and embrace the word of God. Before you infer that prostitution is caused by poverty, I have seen rich, working class women engage in prostitution. These are elemental spirits at work in them full-time.

This is same for homosexuals. It is not really the human being that is at work. It is the spirit of homosexuality at work in him or her.

This is why I have always advocated against violence against homosexuals.

Now as much as I don't advocate harm against homosexuals, I don't support promoting homosexuality too. In my worldview, every individual should be free to live a life they so choose that is not harmful to others.

Please stop harming homosexuals. It is not them at work. It is the spirit controlling that individual. If one should use prayers and incinerate that spirit in them, a new individual is always reborn.

This is why I encourage my fellow Christians to be more welcoming to homosexuals. Do not judge them. Do not harm them. Do not give that look of "You should be ashamed of yourself". If you do this, you may make the case worse.

Love them genuinely. Show them love. Bring them closer to Jesus Christ in the mass and in the service. Sooner than later, the power of God at work through the powerful blood of Jesus Christ will dissolve that spirit of homosexuality at work in them. Believe me, it works. I have seen this happen more than 100 times.

If you send homosexuals out of the church, then the DEVIL won. This is the actual plan of the devil. We should not and cannot allow this to happen. The devil must never win one soul. This malicious foe of humanity wants Christians to send homosexuals away from the church so that it can be easy for him to consume them.

SeraphicWind:
First and Foremost, this conversation is for matured and intelligent minds. Barbarians should do well to stay off this thread.

It is my humble opinion that homosexuals should be allowed to attend masses and services in Christianity. Please do not misunderstand me.

There is a great difference between HOMOSEXUALITY and HOMOSEXUALS. A homosexual is one that practices homosexuality. Homosexuality is the act of a man sleeping with his fellow man. Same applies for women.

Over my 30 years of journeying in the spirit and studying elemental forces, I have come to realise that 95% of every human action be it good or bad is SPIRIT INFLUNCED. External forces and spirits exert a great influence on the affairs of men. I may not have time to go deep into this proposition but it is true based on my own personal journey.

I have seen a killer repent and become a TRUE CHILD OF GOD. I have seen a prostitute disengage from prostitution and embrace the word of God. Before you infer that prostitution is caused by poverty, I have seen rich, working class women engage in prostitution. These are elemental spirits at work in them full-time.

This is same for homosexuals. It is not really the human being that is at work. It is the spirit of homosexuality at work in him or her.

This is why I have always advocated against violence against homosexuals.

Now as much as I don't advocate harm against homosexuals, I don't support promoting homosexuality too. In my worldview, every individual should be free to live a life they so choose that is not harmful to others.

Please stop harming homosexuals. It is not them at work. It is the spirit controlling that individual. If one should use prayers and incinerate that spirit in them, a new individual is always reborn.

This is why I encourage my fellow Christians to be more welcoming to homosexuals. Do not judge them. Do not harm them. Do not give that look of "You should be ashamed of yourself". If you do this, you may make the case worse.

Love them genuinely. Show them love. Bring them closer to Jesus Christ in the mass and in the service. Sooner than later, the power of God at work through the powerful blood of Jesus Christ will dissolve that spirit of homosexuality at work in them. Believe me, it works. I have seen this happen more than 100 times.

If you send homosexuals out of the church, then the DEVIL won. This is the actual plan of the devil. We should not and cannot allow this to happen. The devil must never win one soul. This malicious foe of humanity wants Christians to send homosexuals away from the church so that it can be easy for him to consume them.

TheNobleProphet:
Homosexuality is an "abomination" and should NEVER be allowed under any guise!!👎👎👎

uniquelyspecial:
FYI:
Look closely, one of your close and loved family member is homosexual.

IyfeNamikaze:
By this then no church door should ever be open to anyone including the pastors because everyone is a sinner!

Christ did not discriminate against anyone, he walked with prostitutes, ate with fornicators, thieves and liers, welcomed a condemned robber into heaven and chose his persecutor as the chief propagator of his teachings.

Homosexuality is a sin just like every other sin. And Christ didn't come for the righteous, he came for the sinners, preventing these sinners from accessing the teaching of Christ is an even bigger sin than homosexuality.

immaculatesense:
Sir, I respect the fact that you want to be civil. But it is impossible to please men and look good at the expense of God's irrevocable standard.
My submission:
On homosexuals. Everyone deserves salvation and God's desire is that all men be save. So, if a man who is addicted to sleeping with a man and realizes that his actions are wrong but finds it difficult to help himself no matter how long he tried. If such a person comes to church with the hold of freedom through Christ from that addiction like any other addiction, such a man should not be crucified but assisted by the church to win the war over that sin. John 8:1-11. Pay attention to verse 10 but don't neglect verse 11.
But this is where the word of God should be carefully divided. In case the homosexual comes to church to fellowship with the belief that he is doing nothing wrong claiming that was how he was created or believing that Christ had paid it all and thus he can live anyhow. Such a man should be excommunicated from the church or fellowship. A little yeast leavens the whole lump and that is the standard of scriptures. 1 Corinthians 5:1-7.
You may disagree, I respect your view and I have made mine in a polite way.
God bless you.

Lovelyflower:
you are no God Mr man. You are a sinner too maybe you should be thrown out too.
Learn to impact positively to people who you feel different from.
Jesus did not throw the prostituting woman even she is yet to repent. He accepted her and made her change her way. As a Christian, you don't wait for people to change before you accept them for who they are, but rather you help them change if you feel you are all perfect yourself.