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jaxxy:
IBB did not lie.

I believe now that Abacha was either fully or partly behind the annulment of June 12. For various reasons I will list now.

1, When IBB handed over power to an interim government. Abiola was still fighting for his mandate, He never accepted the annulment.. Ibb did nothing to abiola cos they were actually friends.

2. It was Abacha who after forcing Sonekan who was interim president to step aside in a peaceful coup that now ordered arrest of Abiola, IBB was no longer in power nor interested in power. Abacha could have fixed the problem since he was in power since he knew everything about it but choose to show he was either the mastermind or partly involved and went further to finish the job cos he was power hungry.

3. Abacha wanted power and would definitely not let abiola have it. IBB was indifferent but went along with the strongest influence (just like buhari did in 2023 elections) and let Abacha have his way or go with his idea... Both IBB and Buhari are like Pontius pilate.

They don't commit the crime but they allow the crime to be committed and do nothing to stop it.


4. IBB despite being president at the time cannot act alone on a decision of such magnitude. He consulted with people. Who were they? Abacha was one of them surely.

5. If IBB was evil, which he was, Abacha was evil pro max.

Is this the same brain with which you cross the road....


So what if IBB didn't annull the election, what if he handed power while retiring all the senior officers in the army along with him b4 leaving...do you think heaven will fall?...

Same thing even a weaker Abdulsalami did to them Jeremiah Hussaini and co ....

Obviouslyblunt:
Never knew a day would come when some part of the country would praise Abacha.

Some part of this country have always praised Abacha,as they believe in his legacy.
Come to the north, precisely Kano. You will still see pictures of Abacha on commercial vehicles till today.

oyeb15:
Abacha was d best. Those that gather at dat event are bunch of uupatriot looters.

If u investigation wat OBJ and his master's abroad tagged Abacha Loot, you will love d man forever.

Abacha's loot wasn't a loot why ia it not in Government account? When will a black man learn? Money was stolen and put into different accounts by your leadership as at them even kebbi governor was a key accomplice to the crime and you arr saying this

Hitler’s kids would have said the same thing about the demon called their father.

jaxxy:
IBB did not lie.

I believe now that Abacha was either fully or partly behind the annulment of June 12. For various reasons I will list now.

1, When IBB handed over power to an interim government. Abiola was still fighting for his mandate, He never accepted the annulment.. Ibb did nothing to abiola cos they were actually friends.

2. It was Abacha who after forcing Sonekan who was interim president to step aside in a peaceful coup that now ordered arrest of Abiola, IBB was no longer in power nor interested in power. Abacha could have fixed the problem since he was in power since he knew everything about it but choose to show he was either the mastermind or partly involved and went further to finish the job cos he was power hungry.

3. Abacha wanted power and would definitely not let abiola have it. IBB was indifferent but went along with the strongest influence (just like buhari did in 2023 elections) and let Abacha have his way or go with his idea... Both IBB and Buhari are like Pontius pilate.

They don't commit the crime but they allow the crime to be committed and do nothing to stop it.


4. IBB despite being president at the time cannot act alone on a decision of such magnitude. He consulted with people. Who were they? Abacha was one of them surely.

5. If IBB was evil, which he was, Abacha was evil pro max.

I was about giving your perception a thought but the highlighted depict you dont even know what you saying

Military president denotes " Dictatorship" i.e the GCFR have the sole right to dictate

IBB have the power and right to act alone... he gives instruction nd it is folllowed/executed

Abacha as a chief of staff as no power to act without IBB even if he did, IBB as sitting GCFR can nullify it and do what he wants

if IBB had come out to announce Mko Abiola as president nothing a million Abacha can do about it.

Abacha is wicked But IBB is evil full option .... do you know what full option is

Gerrard59:
To think both regions would claim to be the most "enlightened" of all. Imagine defending the likes of IBB and Abacha in 2025 because of ethnic superiority. Na why I maintain my stance that collectively Nigerians are not intelligent.

It's a spillover from Obidients and Batists going against each other. Nothing to do with majority Ndigbo and Ndi Yoruba per se.

Obidients are butt hurt there man lost at the elections to President Tinubu and their lack of intelligence has shined through as a result. Batists, who should look away most times indulge them and hence the "nakeding" of themselves in Public

chidiokay:
I was about giving your perception a thought but the highlighted depict you dont even know what you saying

Military president denotes " Dictatorship" i.e the GCFR have the sole right to dictate

IBB have the power and right to act alone... he gives instruction nd it is folllowed/executed

Abacha as a chief of staff as no power to act without IBB even if he did, IBB as sitting GCFR can nullify it and do what he wants

if IBB had come out to announce Mko Abiola as president nothing a million Abacha can do about it.

Abacha is wicked But IBB is evil full option .... do you know what full option is

IBB entered through a bloodless coup, IBB never arrested Obasanjo or Abiola because he was not ruthless, he was dangerous but likes to use his brains than brunts or weapons. Abacha was a stupid ruthless monster who even tinubu had to run for his life when Abacha was coming for NADECO. IBB doesn't have time for all that.

tunjilana:
Is this the same brain with which you cross the road....


So what if IBB didn't annull the election, what if he handed power while retiring all the senior officers in the army along with him b4 leaving...do you think heaven will fall?...

Same thing even a weaker Abdulsalami did to them Jeremiah Hussaini and co ....

IBB was supposed to handover to Abacha but couldn't handover to another military government so handed over to shonekan without removing Abacha from government so it was a civilian Government with military men or perhaps they left temporarily buy Abacha immediately unsat Sonekan and u think IBB didn't know this would eventually play out?

epainos:
The real victims of Nigeria are the Igbos, but they always think they can do "gra gra" to handle everything. I am just smiling here. And the Yoruba people will keep outsmarting them.

Ojukwu was the first person to say that the 1966 coup was meant to install Awolowo as the leader. Lol. And stylishly IBB talked about that area in his book. The thing is that Igbos picked that part, and boom! People have been debating that there is or no Igbo coup. Well, I am not here to argue that, but what I know is that IBB is the main person that weakened the Igbo nation finally, yet, they think he is doing them a favor now. Lol.

The issue now is that Atiku and El-Rufai will pick this up against Tinubu, and hopefully, they will try to romance Obi to join them. The fact is that no matter what they tell Igbo, they will still ask them to be the vice president..lol.

Another view of this issue is that Abacha has been made the scapegoat of all the attrocities committed during IBB's time. That June 12 is the real bone of contention that everyone is talking about, but because it involved a Yoruba man, Igbos are not ready even go down the main issue. Do I blame them? Nope.

Hmmmm. Nigeria is finished. If you have been following my posts, you should by now know that I have been predicting the fall of Nigeria. It is so clear that Igbo and Yoruba cannot coexist in unity in the same nation. For sure, both will not go to war, but they cannot unite. Even Biafra war was more of Igbo Vs the north. Of course, the Yoruba people will always find a way to avoid debating Igbos, but they will act at the right time. This is the reason Igbos keep saying Yorubas are betrayals. Lol. No be to dey beat chests everytime. Therefore, I can beat my chest to say that Yoruba and Igbo cannot get violent with each other. It is not possible.

I foresee IBB creating both an opportunity and a disaster for the north before 2027. And the Tinubu I know will explore the opportunities. Let's see what will happen. Likewise Atiku and ElRufai will explore the opportunities too.

One area everyone agrees is that Abacha is an evil man who has a bad legacy. His son is living in delusion saying history will vindicate his father. History is already messing up the Abacha family. That family is cursed. And to add salt to the injury, IBB has decided to put the whole blame on him even while he is trying to rest in his grave. Can Abacha ever find rest? I doubt it.

Your epistle flies in the face of common sense.

Anyday the north decides that a Scion of Abacha will this country, it will happen. And they will do it without permission from the SW. All they need is just one region from the South.

If we in SW maintained our honour and rinsisted that no General who has ever ruled as military president should be voted as Civilian president. Buhari would never had become president. The rot got to a crescendo with Buhari sailing the wheel of this country.

It was said that the economy was solid and okay. Didn't you read the OP's article!
His only offence was human-right abuse and corruption! Am talking about abacha.

Olufemiolaolu:
Here are the legacies of Ibrahim Babangida and Sani Abacha in short sentences:

*Legacies*
1. *Ibrahim Babangida*: His legacy is marred by the annulment of the June 12, 1993, presidential election and economic mismanagement.
2. *Sani Abacha*: His regime is remembered for its brutal human rights abuses, widespread corruption, and economic plunder. History can't be kind to evil men. They both belong to the septic tank of history. Their generation unborn shall surely harvest theirl evil seeds

Wow.
Thanks.

Svoboda:
That was the rumour then. He was also said to be sponsoring coups against govts.

Dalohad:
Your epistle flies in the face of common sense.

Anyday the north decides that a Scion of Abacha will this country, it will happen. And they will do it without permission from the SW. All they need is just one region from the South.

While the bolded part seems logical, it is the scenario with the least probability to happen. Number 1, the north will never get 50% Igbo to support them again. If you doubt it, just watch as 50% of Igbo will quit the Obidient movement if Obi should allow himself become a vice president to any northerner. That's when you will know that Igbos are really stubborn. I always talk about their stubborness. If you doubt me, encourage Obi to try it. Also, go and research very well if there is any election after the Biafra war that the north has left out the SW. Go research it well. Everything the north has done so far, they have had the south-west at their back, and vice versa. Lastly, the SS of Nigeria will never betray SW, and vice versa. Never. Why did Jonathan win? A SW man with the northern power backed him, and he lost when the same man turned his back against him. Period. And why has no Igbo won any election? You all will dispute it, but it is because Yoruba will hardly endorse them. I believe Yoruba can endorse Igbos, but the distrust is just too high, and it may NEVER happen.

If we in SW maintained our honour and rinsisted that no General who has ever ruled as military president should be voted as Civilian president. Buhari would never had become president. The rot got to a crescendo with Buhari sailing the wheel of this country.

It is funny that you are Yoruba, and sincerely, I appreciate your comment. You just don't know the power Yoruba people have. Yoruba is the strongest tribe in almost every aspect including politics in Nigeria. The only edge the north has is the population, but SW has proven to be able to manage them very well. Even during the period the north dominated the military and ruled Nigeria for long. The Yorubas held the south and kept checking the north. Igbos were wounded then and they were powerless and voiceless.

Anyway, I think all Nigerians should reject all military rulers and not just the Yorubas. It's just a logical thing to do.

I repeat, the unity of SS, SE, and SW would have made Nigeria developed, but Igbo will NEVER agree. Do I blame them? Nope. And it is very highly impossible for Nigeria to prosper. Therefore, I repeat that for these present Nigerians to know what is good standard of living, Nigeria must separate. If not, they will suffer and die in poverty. Only the generations that live in a separated Nigeria will know wealth.

jaxxy:
IBB entered through a bloodless coup, IBB never arrested Obasanjo or Abiola because he was not ruthless, he was dangerous but likes to use his brains than brunts or weapons. Abacha was a stupid ruthless monster who even tinubu had to run for his life when Abacha was coming for NADECO. IBB doesn't have time for all that.

There is no coup that has no daint of blood if we dig deep

The IBB you are needlessly trying to exenorate, launched the 1st and only "letter bomb in Nigeria" that killed Dele giwa and For a man to order the killing of his childhood best friend jiya vatsa .... please define ruthless

do you know IBB acknowledge the nickname that fascinates him the most is the "evil genius" .. like

Excusing IBB is like excusing the devil, you cant be evil and not be a monster its like being a pastor and not a saint, dey play

Envied by who? Someone that is a cautionary tale for every military wannabe dictator in Nigeria. Someone that generation unborn are still cursing. No envy here, nobody want to be in your family shoes. Nobody want their legacy to be like Abacha.

chidiokay:
There is no coup that has no daint of blood if we dig deep

The IBB you are needlessly trying to exenorate, launched the 1st and only "letter bomb in Nigeria" that killed Dele giwa and For a man to order the killing of his childhood best friend jiya vatsa .... please define ruthless

do you know IBB acknowledge the nickname that fascinates him the most is the "evil genius" .. like

Excusing IBB is like excusing the devil, you cant be evil and not be a monster its like being a pastor and not a saint, dey play

U seem to be missing my point I did not say IBB was a saint offcourse he was evil but liked to do it unnoticed but Abacha was prepared to do worse. Abacha Killed abiolas wives and many NADECO members to the extent tinubu had to run for his life. IBB didn't harm Abiola but Abacha didn't care who abiola or anybody was.

My point is Abacha was more desperate than IBB in the circumstances surrounding June 12. IBB had less to lose he was already due to leave power to someone or anyone.

Abacha's forces wanted power after IBB. I'm happy some of Abacha's forces are alive to counter IBB if they know any better.

jaxxy:
IBB was supposed to handover to Abacha but couldn't handover to another military government so handed over to shonekan without removing Abacha from government so it was a civilian Government with military men or perhaps they left temporarily buy Abacha immediately unsat Sonekan and u think IBB didn't know this would eventually play out?

Exactly my point...IBB was totally responsible for making a chaos out of something that could have been simple...retrench all senior military leaders and hand over power to Abiola....If out of power....he can't easily plan any coup against a civilian government

tunjilana:
Exactly my point...IBB was totally responsible for making a chaos out of something that could have been simple...retrench all senior military leaders and hand over power to Abiola....If out of power....he can't easily plan any coup against a civilian government

IBB obviously couldn't do that to Abacha for some inexplicable reasons. it might be both of them were in on the June 12 or Abacha even had the upper hand cos IBB was very quiet all through out Abacha's reign of terror.

jaxxy:
U seem to be missing my point I did not say IBB was a saint offcourse he was evil but liked to do it unnoticed but Abacha was prepared to do worse. Abacha Killed abiolas wives and many NADECO members to the extent tinubu had to run for his life. IBB didn't harm Abiola but Abacha didn't care who abiola or anybody was.

My point is Abacha was more desperate than IBB in the circumstances surrounding June 12. IBB had less to lose he was already due to leave power to someone or anyone.

Abacha's forces wanted power after IBB. I'm happy some of Abacha's forces are alive to counter IBB if they know any better.

You are trying to say IBB is better than Abacha But i am saying who hires an assasin is not better than the assassin.

Abacha was desperate But that still does not negate IBB is the Boss and he could have rectify the situation if he so desires.

IBB making a broadcast could have saved june 12, even before "93 IBB postponed the election twice was that Abacha tew

its just like a Man kill his wife and he says it is the devil c'mon we are not toddlers

If you think Abacha is desperate, IBB was virually involved in more coup than any officier ... when man wan lie e go say him witness dey heaven

2mch:
Envied by who? Someone that is a cautionary tale for every military wannabe dictator in Nigeria. Someone that generation unborn are still cursing. No envy here, nobody want to be in your family shoes. Nobody want their legacy to be like Abacha.

As in. Someone whom the day he died, the streets were filled with people rejoicing as if they won the lottery.

chidiokay:
You are trying to say IBB is better than Abacha But i am saying who hires an assasin is not better than the assassin.

Abacha was desperate But that still does not negate IBB is the Boss and he could have rectify the situation if he so desires.

IBB making a broadcast could have saved june 12, even before "93 IBB postponed the election twice was that Abacha tew

its just like a Man kill his wife and he says it is the devil c'mon we are not toddlers

If you think Abacha is desperate, IBB was virually involved in more coup than any officier ... when man wan lie e go say him witness dey heaven

So explain why Abacha arrested abiola? Ohh it was IBB that told him to do it as his Boss? Abacha was already taking chain of command towards IBB last days in office.

Yes IBB didn't want to give Abiola perhaps and that gave Abacha the green light to take advantage of the situation.

U make Abacha seem like a weakling but no soldier is a weakling and no soldier is an absolute genius.

I can only best describe IBB situation like buhari in the 2023 elections. They don't who they want to support and won't do the right thing so leave it open to the more ruthless or desperate..

I call IBB/Buhari Pontius pilate cos they have the power but act like they don't have the power so they don't take the blame and wash their hands clean of the situation.

yewit37486:
As in. Someone whom the day he died, the streets were filled with people rejoicing as if they won the lottery.

Even the Bible stated this 1000’s of years ago! Millions of people rejoice at 1 man’s death. That man must have been cursed, a complete nuisance and a fool. What is there to envy?

jaxxy:
So explain why Abacha arrested abiola? Ohh it was IBB that told him to do it as his Boss? Abacha was already taking chain of command towards IBB last days in office.

Yes IBB didn't want to give Abiola perhaps and that gave Abacha the green light to take advantage of the situation.

U make Abacha seem like a weakling but no soldier is a weakling and no soldier is an absolute genius.

I can only best describe IBB situation like buhari in the 2023 elections. They don't who they want to support and won't do the right thing so leave it open to the more ruthless or desperate..

I call IBB/Buhari Pontius pilate cos they have the power but act like they don't have the power so they don't take the blame and wash their hands clean of the situation.

There is nothing to explain, Abacha arrested lots of prominient names, Mko Abiola is just one of them, obasanjo, diyah, shehu sani were all Abacha prisoners ... so you cant single out Mko arrest as " Personal"

If Nigerians consensusly deem it fit to call IBB "evil genius" were there no military head before IBB and after ...i trust there judgement

Buhari situation is a democratic dispensation there is nothing he could do than follow the rules But IBB is a selfish bastard who does not care what happens when he leaves ... he somehow knew Abacha was scheming, But he was done nd wanted come out unscratched .. so he quickly relinquish power to interim govt "shonekan" ... maradona indeed

Once again Buhari and IBB are not under same circumstance, buhari has power guided by the constitution
IBB had power guided by him, his word is final, Power is influence and what IBB does when he is not dictating is to "influence" the situation thats why we call him evil genius

he will influence your decision in a way you wont even know he is, to understand IBB just think of " Devil" snr

All these your Epistles.[b][/b]
IBB was in the best position to handover the power to MKO that year, but he failed to do and handed to it Hernest Shonekan.

Known fully well what would happen.

jaxxy:
IBB did not lie.

I believe now that Abacha was either fully or partly behind the annulment of June 12. For various reasons I will list now.

1, When IBB handed over power to an interim government. Abiola was still fighting for his mandate, He never accepted the annulment.. Ibb did nothing to abiola cos they were actually friends.

2. It was Abacha who after forcing Sonekan who was interim president to step aside in a peaceful coup that now ordered arrest of Abiola, IBB was no longer in power nor interested in power. Abacha could have fixed the problem since he was in power since he knew everything about it but choose to show he was either the mastermind or partly involved and went further to finish the job cos he was power hungry.

3. Abacha wanted power and would definitely not let abiola have it. IBB was indifferent but went along with the strongest influence (just like buhari did in 2023 elections) and let Abacha have his way or go with his idea... Both IBB and Buhari are like Pontius pilate.

They don't commit the crime but they allow the crime to be committed and do nothing to stop it.


4. IBB despite being president at the time cannot act alone on a decision of such magnitude. He consulted with people. Who were they? Abacha was one of them surely.

5. If IBB was evil, which he was, Abacha was evil pro max.

Love800:
It was said that the economy was solid and okay. Didn't you read the OP's article!
His only offence was human-right abuse and corruption! Am talking about abacha.

Do you want to tell me about the regime I experienced.? It's high time they brought back history back to our schools pool🤣🤣🤣

What really happened? I thought it was known that food prices and stuffs were cheap with strong/good policies during abacha's time. It was just that he was a muderer and abuse human rights by killing people or locking dem in jails/cells. But the economy was okay and stabilize.

Pls talk to me. I really want to know!

Olufemiolaolu:
Do you want to tell me about the regime I experienced.? It's high time they brought back history back to our schools pool🤣🤣🤣

chidiokay:
There is nothing to explain, Abacha arrested lots of prominient names, Mko Abiola is just one of them, obasanjo, diyah, shehu sani were all Abacha prisoners ... so you cant single out Mko arrest as " Personal"

If Nigerians consensusly deem it fit to call IBB "evil genius" were there no military head before IBB and after ...i trust there judgement

Buhari situation is a democratic dispensation there is nothing he could do than follow the rules But IBB is a selfish bastard who does not care what happens when he leaves ... he somehow knew Abacha was scheming, But he was done nd wanted come out unscratched .. so he quickly relinquish power to interim govt "shonekan" ... maradona indeed

Once again Buhari and IBB are not under same circumstance, buhari has power guided by the constitution
IBB had power guided by him, his word is final, Power is influence and what IBB does when he is not dictating is to "influence" the situation thats why we call him evil genius

he will influence your decision in a way you wont even know he is, to understand IBB just think of " Devil" snr

IBB didn't have absolute power he still needed to conduct a free and fair election to handover power to civil rule. This was obviously also guided by some rules or laws.

Also u saying Abacha arrested Mko lime he arrested Obasanjo is so disingenuous. We all know why he arrested diya and Obasanjo which was because of of an assumed or alleged coup plot but why did he arrest Mko?

Also he arrested Mko a year b4 he arrested Obasanjo and diya or others. So yes Mko was a special case and reason for him.

addyvast:
All these your Epistles.[b][/b]
IBB was in the best position to handover the power to MKO that year, but he failed to do and handed to it Hernest Shonekan.

Known fully well what would happen.

So why didn't he? There was an obvious reason or possible various reasons. But IBB didn't jail Mko it was Abacha who did.

idahme:
Abacha's loot wasn't a loot why ia it not in Government account? When will a black man learn? Money was stolen and put into different accounts by your leadership as at them even kebbi governor was a key accomplice to the crime and you arr saying this

Wat u are told by OBJ

jaxxy:
IBB didn't have absolute power he still needed to conduct a free and fair election to handover power to civil rule. This was obviously also guided by some rules or laws.

Also u saying Abacha arrested Mko lime he arrested Obasanjo is so disingenuous. We all know why he arrested diya and Obasanjo which was because of of an assumed or alleged coup plot but why did he arrest Mko?

Also he arrested Mko a year b4 he arrested Obasanjo and diya or others. So yes Mko was a special case and reason for him.

i dont really understand your quest, evil is evil which one is one evil is better than the other
Was Mko the only civilian Abacha arrested, shehu sani nko ?? was the execution of saro wiwa indisingenuous ?? was that coup tew

i dont know what you think you know but your beliefs are questionable

Abacha had finalized the execution of diya and obasanjo , which one is not special case to abacha,

Abacha is a monster , if IBB is better then he must be an a Angel abi weytin be opposite of monster

uncle go n sit down

oyeb15:
Wat u are told by OBJ

Which OBJ?

Make una dey read and not carry propaganda from one person mouth wey no sabi anything come dey hawk am like gala



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sani_Abacha. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42237752.amp. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/08/24/africa/us-returns-abacha-loot-intl. https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2022/08/26/3-65bn-abacha-loot-recovered-by-fg-in-24-years/?amp. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54929254.amp .

chidiokay:
i dont really understand your quest, evil is evil which one is one evil is better than the other
Was Mko the only civilian Abacha arrested, shehu sani nko ?? was the execution of saro wiwa indisingenuous ?? was that coup tew

i dont know what you think you know but your beliefs are questionable

Abacha had finalized the execution of diya and obasanjo , which one is not special case to abacha,

Abacha is a monster , if IBB is better then he must be an a Angel abi weytin be opposite of monster

uncle go n sit down

I never said IBB was an Angel it's u jumping into such conclusions urself. I clearly said both are evil but u keep hearing what u want to hear simply cos I said IBB wasn't alone on the annulment but was fully supported if not pushed by Abacha. That doesn't make IBB an Angel so why are u stating what I never said? or is this a deliberate comprehension issue?

IBB was responsible but he was definitely not alone in that annulment decision.

Love800:
What really happened? I thought it was known that food prices and stuffs were cheap with strong/good policies during abacha's time. It was just that he was a muderer and abuse human rights by killing people or locking dem in jails/cells. But the economy was okay and stabilize.

Pls talk to me. I really want to know!

The woes of Nigeria started from his evil regime. He devalued the naira to please the IMF. Naira was officially 0.894 to a dollar. He messed up the economy big time. Drug dealers flourished during his reign too