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Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by Saga16: 11:59am On Feb 24, 2025
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by TheSpellChecker: 12:25pm On Feb 24, 2025
Ewedegubbler:
At least Europe can now start paying for their security and get their hands off the US cookie jar. Europe has been leashing off the USA and using its wealth on silly social welfare programs while the USA pays for its security...
Leeching
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by NinjaMetahuman: 1:42pm On Feb 24, 2025
dalongjnr:
NATO can't be independent of the USA.
It's an alliance.
it's an alliance, not a cult group.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by Greatness09: 1:47pm On Feb 24, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
with the way Trump is moving
such may soon be discarded
I strongly disagree some things will just be hard to reset…eg South Korea, Japanese and Germany dependence on USA was strategically arranged to run for a very very long time
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by Ex0rrcist: 2:46pm On Feb 24, 2025
humberjade:
The Donald Trump led US doesn't know that what makes them feared and seem great are their allies globally. Once countries that matters the most (EU and Japan in particular) learns to be independent of the US, the USD will fall miserably, then their economy, followed by their influence.

The damage Trump will do to their allies might be difficult to rebuild post-Trump. That's if he leaves after 4 years. Considering that he likes dictators and sit tight leaders, sing praises of them, and the fact he told Christians during his campaign that they won't need to vote again after 2024, and even joked about staying beyond 2028.
I hope he stays president beyond 2028.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by DiasGodinHeaven: 3:08pm On Feb 24, 2025
God1000:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/24/germanys-merz-calls-for-independence-from-us-as-conservatives-win-vote
Why is it that all these evil policies in the world are orchestrated by the Leftist party members from USA Dems to Canada to Germany, to France and UK etc?
Leftist party are evil
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by sharone21(f): 3:32pm On Feb 24, 2025
humberjade:
The Donald Trump led US doesn't know that what makes them feared and seem great are their allies globally. Once countries that matters the most (EU and Japan in particular) learns to be independent of the US, the USD will fall miserably, then their economy, followed by their influence.

The damage Trump will do to their allies might be difficult to rebuild post-Trump. That's if he leaves after 4 years. Considering that he likes dictators and sit tight leaders, sing praises of them, and the fact he told Christians during his campaign that they won't need to vote again after 2024, and even joked about staying beyond 2028.
USD is falling already that's why it seems Naira is gaining weight. Gold's high price attests to this.

USD affects the Naira, Euro majorly affects CFA. However, since Naira has gained value due to falling USD, it seems also like gaining weight gradually b4 CFA.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by humberjade: 5:00pm On Feb 24, 2025
sharone21:
USD is falling already that's why it seems Naira is gaining weight. Gold's high price attests to this.

USD affects the Naira, Euro majorly affects CFA. However, since Naira has gained value due to falling USD, it seems also like gaining weight gradually b4 CFA.
So true, I agree with you.

Imagine what will happen to dollars if all their allies indeed turn their backs to the US.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by BondRiv: 6:30pm On Feb 24, 2025
Germany is more or less a colony of the U.S. with that Ramstein Air base over there. Good luck being independent. The U.K. and the rest of the so-called allies mirror the body language of the U.S. in almost everything. It is so obvious in this Trump administration, whether it is immigration policy or whatever, they eventually fall in line.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by Julius1995(m): 9:22pm On Feb 24, 2025
I think it is necessary we note that a Germany in its full element will crush any version of Russia. Some historians have offered an alternative perspective to the creation of NATO - one I seems to agree with. They argued that NATO was established in part to checkmate Germany and not just Russia per say.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by OpinionCounts(m): 10:44pm On Feb 24, 2025
Africa will be the greatest beneficiary of this cold war between US and EUROPE.
That is if the leaders of Africa are wise enough to see the huge opportunity this rift between US and EUROPE creates for them and if they are patriotic enough to exploit it for the benefit of the continent.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by d142475: 2:19am On Feb 25, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
still lies
the stupid lie America has sold is that u need to waste 800b annually for a "strong military" and Europe has money to spend in welfare cos of that

that's the biggest lie
Don’t get your point exactly. The US spends on military, Europe spends on welfare, they don’t have to spend as much on Military cos America is protecting them. That’s a fact.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by RodgersAkpafu: 2:23am On Feb 25, 2025
d142475:
Don’t get your point exactly. The US spends on military, Europe spends on welfare, they don’t have to spend as much on Military cos America is protecting them. That’s a fact.
"Protect them" from who
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by d142475: 10:14am On Feb 25, 2025
RodgersAkpafu:
"Protect them" from who
In case it’s a genuine question, RUSSIA. Without US protection, Russia would have scattered the EU. They would have invaded the tiny Baltic States. Russia still wants to exercise influence over the former Soviet states, which have all joined the EU. Putin still hurts over the disintegration of USSR and loathes that former member States are forming alliance with the West.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by fxexperts: 4:22pm On Feb 25, 2025
d142475:
In case it’s a genuine question, RUSSIA. Without US protection, Russia would have scattered the EU. They would have invaded the tiny Baltic States. Russia still wants to exercise influence over the former Soviet states, which have all joined the EU. Putin still hurts over the disintegration of USSR and loathes that former member States are forming alliance with the West.
Russia is too small to scatter, it can only scatter those states like Finland and poland close to it, country like Germany can defeat Russia comfortable in a one one war. Europe is largely unstable and without an central government to act as a protector they might turn on each other thereby leading to a world war.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by fxexperts: 4:32pm On Feb 25, 2025
Ewedegubbler:
At least Europe can now start paying for their security and get their hands off the US cookie jar. Europe has been leashing off the USA and using its wealth on silly social welfare programs while the USA pays for its security...
And who said they have not been paying for their own security, you all keep deceiving yourselves. Just watch the fall of the USA from world power within the next four years. or that village idiot will be impeached within the next four years.

anyilalaz:
Exactly my thoughts. Don't understand why everyone is blaming Donald Trump. Everything he is doing are what he declared he will do during the campaign. This is what the Americans want.
Obviously they neveractually understood what the wanted, now they are complaining that this is not what they wanted.

Ex0rrcist:
I hope he stays president beyond 2028.
You think this is your shithole continenets, no wonder you people from shithole countries are backward, you only wish evil thopughts in your heads.

humberjade:
So true, I agree with you.

Imagine what will happen to dollars if all their allies indeed turn their backs to the US.
You are right this will be the fall of the USA as world power.

OpinionCounts:
Africa will be the greatest beneficiary of this cold war between US and EUROPE.
That is if the leaders of Africa are wise enough to see the huge opportunity this rift between US and EUROPE creates for them and if they are patriotic enough to exploit it for the benefit of the continent.
You are very right, but unfortunately African leaders do not have the interest of their citizens at heart, their heart are as dark a charcoal, we so much hate ourselves and thats too bad.
Re: Germany’s Merz Calls For ‘Independence’ From US As Conservatives Win Vote by d142475: 1:07pm On Feb 26, 2025
fxexperts:
Russia is too small to scatter, it can only scatter those states like Finland and poland close to it, country like Germany can defeat Russia comfortable in a one one war. Europe is largely unstable and without an central government to act as a protector they might turn on each other thereby leading to a world war.
That’s the point. Poland and the other small Baltic States are part of the EU
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