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givedemwotowoto:
You’re seeing this from the anti-American perspective of “the US has more to lose than Europe”.

Now consider this. If Russia goes to war with Europe, they may defeat Europe in the end, nobody knows, but Russia and Europe will be severely impacted militarily. What stops the US from stepping in and taking over parts of Europe, basically sharing Europe with Russia? Have you thought about that possibility?

I hope the EU leaders don’t have this entitlement mentality that the US must come and save them. What if they’re coming to take over? Why become their enemy over Ukraine and expect them to continue being a friend? Isn’t that entitlement mentality?

Diplomacy is needed here so mistakes of the past are not repeated. Remember, if EU starts crumbling, there may still be Nazis who will reawaken that demon from their past. In fact, you’ll see a serious political division in Europe of countries who want to partner with US and stay out of Russia’s way

Having the assumption that US might share Europe with Russia was a joke taken too far

Do you think Europe is a weakling

They have two nuclear armed nations.

Why is Trump bowing to Russia?

travelzcruix:
Any means to make Zelensky put an end to this needless war is allowed. For crying out loud, is the world this hypnotised? 3 years and still counting, you can't win a war, common sense will tell you, you must try another approach.

Giving American 50% of their rare earth resources is a bad deal for Ukraine. It's better he begs Putin and sign a peace deal with him. I know some internal and external forces will prefer to kill him for their own selfish interest than allow him to do that.

It's even too late for him to beg Putin because he done too talk any how

But why the bully

justmondris:
He has missed out several golden opportunities to sign peace deal with Russia.

It's better he signs a direct deal with Putin. Omoh after fighting for year, no NATO membership, you done lose your land and you go come still lose 50% of your rare earth resources? Omoh
However, it's too late for him to beg Putin and sign a peace deal with him. He done too Bleep up

Just like Trump said, his hatred for Putin is incomprehensible, it has consumed him.

Even with all the death, sanctions, russophobia and 300B usd frozen russian money, Putin still acts like an adult. He never refused negotiation, and was patient for 8 years so Kyiv can transpose the Minsk agreement.

Putin was always open for negotiation, but Zelenksy passed a decree barring any communication or negotiation with Putin. Zelensky is too stupid and emotional for my liking.

The only time a person can be as reckless as Zelensky is when you are a world power, not when your strength comes from other people. Like being a billionaire on the pocket of Dangote lol.

waternogatenemy:
LET ME TELL U WHAT WIL HAPPEN.

SOONER OR LATER AMERICA WILL GO BANKRUPT IF THE WAR CONTINUES IN UJKRAINE.

BRICS WAS CREATED PRECISELY TO CRIPPLE AMERICA FINANCES.

THEN RUSSIA WILL ROLL IN AND OCCUPY EVEN MORE TERRITORES IN UKRAINE.

RUSSIA IS NOT MISSING ANYTHING THEY ARE PUMPING OIL AND GAS TO CHINA, ASIA AND INDIA.

SOME EUROPEAN COUNTRIES STILL BUYING RUSSIA ENERGY LIKE HUNGARY.

THE MAIN POINT HERE IS, RUSSIA DID NOT GO TO WAR TO LOSE ALL THOSE MEN TO GO HOME EMPTY HANDED.

THEY NEED SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR THE LIFE LOST.

DO U COMPREHEND?

You are incoherent and not making any sense of the situation. You should know that with Trump comes a different direction in foreign policy and diplomacy, and not necessarily about going broke if the war continues. I strongly believe that if the Democrats had won the US elections, the support for Zelenskyy would be intact.

I don't seem to understand why you came up with the BRICS argument, bcoz it is good as an expansion of how countries trade with one another. Truly, one of their objectives is to reduce the dependence on the US dollar but can the BRICS countries actually do without trading with the US? BRICS was formed in 2009, but US remains the world largest economy with a GDP of $30.34 trillion compared to China's $19.53 trillion.

So oga, when is BRICS going to 'precisely cripple America's finances'??

About Russia pumping oil to India, China/Asia, it's not a big deal bcoz they enjoy a discount anyway. No matter how much of oil and gas that Russia sells, they have a quota to abide by in collaboration with OPEC on oil production quotas and market stability.

Lastly, Russia now has no choice than to cede a significant vast of minerals to the US in a Trump deal, something (I believe) they probably thought they only would eventually have access to if they happen to annex these areas...lol

Guy, you need a refresher.

pansophist:
Just like Trump said, his hatred for Putin is incomprehensible, it has consumed him.

Even with all the death, sanctions, russophobia and 300B usd frozen russian money, Putin still acts like an adult. He never refused negotiation, and was patient for 8 years so Kyiv can transpose the Minsk agreement.

Putin was always open for negotiation, but Zelenksy passed a decree barring any communication or negotiation with Putin. Zelensky is too stupid and emotional for my liking.

The only time a person can be as reckless as Zelensky is when you are a world power, not when your strength comes from other people. Like being a billionaire on the pocket of Dangote lol.

So at the bolded, it was love Putin had for Zelensky?

Trump is imploding the US and you guys can’t see it

US neighbours , US traditional allies are all turning against the US.

This is how empire fall

MT:
Having the assumption that US might share Europe with Russia was a joke taken too far

Do you think Europe is a weakling

They have two nuclear armed nations.

Why is Trump bowing to Russia?

Looool abeg leave givedemwotowoto, nigga is high on some cow dung.

LegacyB:
Can JD Vance speak to Putin the way he spoke to Zelenskyy? Only those with low IQ would not know that trump has no respect for Ukraine 🇺🇦. But he can’t mess with Russia. You are 100 percent correct Trump is just a bully…

Go and listen to Vance's address to EU leaders in their last summit. What will Putin do if Vance insult him?
Does Zelensky not insult Putin everyday? So?

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pansophist:
Just like Trump said, his hatred for Putin is incomprehensible, it has consumed him.

Even with all the death, sanctions, russophobia and 300B usd frozen russian money, Putin still acts like an adult. He never refused negotiation, and was patient for 8 years so Kyiv can transpose the Minsk agreement.

Putin was always open for negotiation, but Zelenksy passed a decree barring any communication or negotiation with Putin. Zelensky is too stupid and emotional for my liking.

The only time a person can be as reckless as Zelensky is when you are a world power, not when your strength comes from other people. Like being a billionaire on the pocket of Dangote lol.

This whole thing was planned right from day one by US and British just to put him in a tight corner and take ownership of their resources. It looks like they deliberately picked him to become a president because he hate Putin with passion. He has fulfilled US evil plan for their country. How come a comedian from no was picked all of a sudden to become their president and few years later, he started a war with Russia.

Again, you deserve a cold beer. I could never have said better.

God1000:
Donald trump should go to hell, he's a big embarrassment and a disgrace to his office, you don't talk to another president that way

I have never seen a President act so disrespectful to a President of another country in my life. zelensky should have walked out on him.

Trump is a vile bully, his behaviour was appalling, Zelenskyy has shown strength and dignity that trump could only dream of

MT:
So at the bolded, it was love Putin had for Zelensky?

Trump is imploding the US and you guys can’t see it

US neighbours , US traditional allies are all turning against the US.

This is how empire fall

The conflict is not about Zelensky, or a love/hate thing. The conflict exist with two presidents before Zelensky.

Trump's was implying that Zelensky's hate is not good for peace. Hating someone stronger than you serves no value to your survival. Like a chicken hating a tiger, the chicken will be eaten regardless.

With all Zelensky's hate, what has he achieve with it? Nothing. Everyday, more villages, settlements and cities are annexed by Russia, but he is still hating. In geopolitics, there is no space for emotions.

Is seeking for peace implosion? The real implosion is sinking an untold amount of US money to Ukraine's war, and still keep loosing for the past three years. Trump is saving, not imploding the US.

The so called US allies are all warmongers. They had three years before Trump showed up, and none tried to bring both parties to the negotiating table. Europe is a warmongering continents, like their ancestors who went around the world destroying countries.

Simplelyf:
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I'm here to beg so I can get something to eat. Any good person should help me with anything he or she can; I'll appreciate any amount, please.

I'm begging everyone in the name of God Almighty. I've exhausted every option I have, and that's why I'm here now. I have not eaten anything since yesterday evening. This is due to the fact that I was evicted from where I was squatting. I have been running helter-skelter looking for where I can get a temporary place to stay.

Please, I am totally broke. I don't have any money; I will appreciate it if anyone can help me with any amount just for me to get something to eat today. Please don't let me die of this hunger! I swear to God Almighty, I've never done this before, and this is the last thing I want to do, but I have no other option now.

Please have mercy on me and help me.

My bank details are:

Bank: PALMPAY
Account Number: 906 137 3493
Account Name: Zainab Opeyemi Saliu


May God Almighty continue to bless you and your family. May you never lack any good things in life. May God Almighty continue to protect you and your family. Amen

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Price: #18,000

If you are interested, please call me at 0906 13 73 493. I'm in Epe, Lagos State. I decided to sell my phone because I need to raise funds to buy foodstuffs and keep some money for my transport to Recreation in Epe here where I do cleaning job now for survival.

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Father4all:
Without the Americans. Zelensky is bleeped

I don't agree sir.

MT:
Having the assumption that US might share Europe with Russia was a joke taken too far

Do you think Europe is a weakling

They have two nuclear armed nations.

Why is Trump bowing to Russia?

The whole EU combined has more or less about 1,000 nuclear weapons. Russia alone has over 5,500. It's not even close.

I didn't say EU was a weakling btw, but let me refresh your memory on WW2 because it was mentioned during Zelensky Trump oval office meeting:

During WW2, the US remained neutral. Germany was the aggressor. France was conquered.

Britain asked US for help. US made a deal with the UK to supply equipment in exchange for establishing military bases.

Russia also asked for help. The US made the same UK deal with Russia, arms/equipment supply in exchange for military bases. In fact they supplied so much logistics and arms to Russia to fight off Germany.

If not that Japan became too ambitious and attacked the US, they (Japan) probably would've remained a regional power like Russia today, because they essentially had control of many parts of China.

What do we have today?

We have China as the regional power, with Japan and South Korea still strong allies of the US to checkmate them. Russia as the regional power of Eastern Europe. UK, France, Germany etc as the Western Allied power of Western Europe. Israel is the Middle Eastern power, strongly aligned with the US.

Based on Trump's foreign policy, the US wants to stay out of wars and develop its economy. If a war is primarily affecting EU like the Ukranian war, EU should contribute more to fight it, not make US pay for their wars. That's why Trump is backing down. US isn't used to giving hundreds of billions in exchange for nothing.

givedemwotowoto:
The whole EU combined has more or less about 1,000 nuclear weapons. Russia alone has over 5,500. It's not even close.

I didn't say EU was a weakling btw, but let me refresh your memory on WW2 because it was mentioned during Zelensky Trump oval office meeting:

During WW2, the US remained neutral. Germany was the aggressor. France was conquered.

Britain asked US for help. US made a deal with the UK to supply equipment in exchange for establishing military bases.

Russia also asked for help. The US made the same UK deal with Russia, arms/equipment supply in exchange for military bases. In fact they supplied so much logistics and arms to Russia to fight off Germany.

If not that Japan became too ambitious and attacked the US, they (Japan) probably would've remained a regional power like Russia today, because they essentially had control of many parts of China.

What do we have today?

We have China as the regional power, with Japan and South Korea still strong allies of the US to checkmate them. Russia as the regional power of Eastern Europe. UK, France, Germany etc as the Western Allied power of Western Europe. Israel is the Middle Eastern power, strongly aligned with the US.

Based on Trump's foreign policy, the US wants to stay out of wars and develop its economy. If a war is primarily affecting EU like the Ukranian war, EU should contribute more to fight it, not make US pay for their wars. That's why Trump is backing down. US isn't used to giving hundreds of billions in exchange for nothing.

You are being intellectually dishonest

If you call Europe warmonger, what would you call the US? Who has many military bases in the world?

Trump has weakened America already. Trump has embarrassed the US in the world.

Praising your enemy in Russia while slapping down your ally in Ukraine

Shame on the nation who can’t stand up to the oppressed. Trump’s act is quite un-American and I’m ashamed to be an American today.

justmondris:
They gave Ukraine aids and not loans. You don't payback aids

Its not free money, its not aids, its loan. Forget the grammar they put there, its an illusion, a red-herring, and to fool the untrained mind. Every single cents with interest will be repaid by Ukraine. No cent will be left behind. The US is not known as a country of charity.

The marshall plan that reconstructed Europe after second war was repaid back in a sense that it sealed EU's fate as permanent vassals of the US.

Same with the UK that ended up paying ww2 loan in 2016, thats 56 years later. You guys dont really know the US. The US is NOT a benevolent country.

TheBillyonaire:
That was shameful to watch.

Zelensky needs to stand his ground and not cede any resources to USA. They funded that war just to launder money back to themselves, now Ukraine has to lose more lands and resources for both USA and Russia?

I swear, usa don't have friends. what they have is interest. if you are in line with their interest you are there friend if you are not in line with their interest then Bleep off

pansophist:
The conflict is not about Zelensky, or a love/hate thing. The conflict exist with two presidents before Zelensky.

Trump's was implying that Zelensky's hate is not good for peace. Hating someone stronger than you serves no value to your survival. Like a chicken hating a tiger, the chicken will be eaten regardless.

With all Zelensky's hate, what has he achieve with it? Nothing. Everyday, more villages, settlements and cities are annexed by Russia, but he is still hating. In geopolitics, there is no space for emotions.

Is seeking for peace implosion? The real implosion is sinking an untold amount of US money to Ukraine's war, and still keep loosing for the past three years. Trump is saving, not imploding the US.

The so called US allies are all warmongers. They had three years before Trump showed up, and none tried to bring both parties to the negotiating table. Europe is a warmongering continents, like their ancestors who went around the world destroying countries.

Listening to a commentator on a radio show recently, he said the US wasn't providing military aid to Ukraine so they could win the war but to keep them afloat and sell more ammunition.

The politics of this world is crazy walahi.

MT:
Praising your enemy in Russia while slapping down your ally in Ukraine

Please mention the sins Russia has committed to the US to deserve being an Enemy. Please be objective

MT:
Having the assumption that US might share Europe with Russia was a joke taken too far

Do you think Europe is a weakling

They have two nuclear armed nations.

Why is Trump bowing to Russia?

trump know what he is doing. fighting Russia is a death sentence which means nuclear war

Is Trump the world president

omooba969:
Listening to a commentator on a radio show recently, he said the US wasn't providing military aid to Ukraine so they could win the war but to keep them afloat and sell more ammunition.

The politics of this world is crazy walahi.

Anybody that genuinely believes Ukraine can win Russia is an idiot. No weapon that is given to Ukraine will make them victorious against Russia.

Besides, Russia has nukes. If Russia reached the realisation that they are loosing, then they nuke everything and send humanity to extinction.

Zelensky is an idiot.

givedemwotowoto:
The whole EU combined has more or less about 1,000 nuclear weapons. Russia alone has over 5,500. It's not even close.

I didn't say EU was a weakling btw, but let me refresh your memory on WW2 because it was mentioned during Zelensky Trump oval office meeting:

During WW2, the US remained neutral. Germany was the aggressor. France was conquered.

Britain asked US for help. US made a deal with the UK to supply equipment in exchange for establishing military bases.

Russia also asked for help. The US made the same UK deal with Russia, arms/equipment supply in exchange for military bases. In fact they supplied so much logistics and arms to Russia to fight off Germany.

If not that Japan became too ambitious and attacked the US, they (Japan) probably would've remained a regional power like Russia today, because they essentially had control of many parts of China.

What do we have today?

We have China as the regional power, with Japan and South Korea still strong allies of the US to checkmate them. Russia as the regional power of Eastern Europe. UK, France, Germany etc as the Western Allied power of Western Europe. Israel is the Middle Eastern power, strongly aligned with the US.

Based on Trump's foreign policy, the US wants to stay out of wars and develop its economy. If a war is primarily affecting EU like the Ukranian war, EU should contribute more to fight it, not make US pay for their wars. That's why Trump is backing down. US isn't used to giving hundreds of billions in exchange for nothing.

The world doesn’t need up to 1000 nukes to be completely destroyed. Stop talking about nukes like you are talking about mere missiles.

Do you even know what you are talking about? Japan and South Korea are in no position to contain china. What are you talking about dude?

The free world obviously needs a new leader. We are at a point in history where the wheels are about to come off

You don’t know Europe is one of the main blocs propping US economy,. Their country savings are largely warehoused in the US . They settle their international trades using USD

If EU takes a different position, the US will be in dilemma. We have not got to this stage but the world is heading towards it gradually

Magnetic010:
Well, anyone who has spent 500 billion dollars defending you, your citizens and your territory can talk to you how ever he chooses...If Ukraine weren't depending on America to help her fight her war they wouldn't be at such a disadvantage

So in that case if you ask for my assistance whether financial or other means. Does that mean I have power of you.

pansophist:
The conflict is not about Zelensky, or a love/hate thing. The conflict exist with two presidents before Zelensky.

Trump's was implying that Zelensky's hate is not good for peace. Hating someone stronger than you serves no value to your survival. Like a chicken hating a tiger, the chicken will be eaten regardless.

With all Zelensky's hate, what has he achieve with it? Nothing. Everyday, more villages, settlements and cities are annexed by Russia, but he is still hating. In geopolitics, there is no space for emotions.

Is seeking for peace implosion? The real implosion is sinking an untold amount of US money to Ukraine's war, and still keep loosing for the past three years. Trump is saving, not imploding the US.

The so called US allies are all warmongers. They had three years before Trump showed up, and none tried to bring both parties to the negotiating table. Europe is a warmongering continents, like their ancestors who went around the world destroying countries.

zelensky has too much hate for russia he has not realize the damage his country is taking. all in his mind is to defeat russia

Russian's trolls are really working over time on Nairaland.

Zelensky is a man, he stood up against bullies today. He didn't cow into selling his country out. The Ukrainians and lovers of freedom are very proud of him.

Go to Ukrainian cyberspace and see how proud they are of him.

justuschi50:
zelensky has too much hate for russia he has not realize the damage his country is taking. all in his mind is to defeat russia

And Putin has so much for Ukraine?

MT:
You are being intellectually dishonest

If you call Europe warmonger, what would you call the US? Who has many military bases in the world?

Trump has weakened America already. Trump has embarrassed the US in the world.

Praising your enemy in Russia while slapping down your ally in Ukraine

Shame on the nation who can’t stand up to the oppressed. Trump’s act is quite un-American and I’m ashamed to be an American today.

You're implying that the US can't stand up to the oppressed. I consider that being intellectually dishonest. The US stood up to Russia for years now, but when they complained about not getting anything in return, Zelensky should've offered those minerals without them even asking. They already gave you hundreds of billions without asking for anything in return. Do you know how much American taxpayers are paying for it? Come on now.

Why don't you compare Israel to Ukraine? That's how an ally behaves, stay loyal to those who stand behind you. When Trump said he wanted to take over Gaza, Israel was ready to enforce it. Zelensky should've jumped on Trump's offer to take minerals knowing that's his way of securing at least what is remaining of his country.

Entitlement mentality is bad. Stop being entitled. Behave like an ally if you're one.

givedemwotowoto:
The whole EU combined has more or less about 1,000 nuclear weapons. Russia alone has over 5,500. It's not even close.

I didn't say EU was a weakling btw, but let me refresh your memory on WW2 because it was mentioned during Zelensky Trump oval office meeting:

During WW2, the US remained neutral. Germany was the aggressor. France was conquered.

Britain asked US for help. US made a deal with the UK to supply equipment in exchange for establishing military bases.

Russia also asked for help. The US made the same UK deal with Russia, arms/equipment supply in exchange for military bases. In fact they supplied so much logistics and arms to Russia to fight off Germany.

If not that Japan became too ambitious and attacked the US, they (Japan) probably would've remained a regional power like Russia today, because they essentially had control of many parts of China.

What do we have today?

We have China as the regional power, with Japan and South Korea still strong allies of the US to checkmate them. Russia as the regional power of Eastern Europe. UK, France, Germany etc as the Western Allied power of Western Europe. Israel is the Middle Eastern power, strongly aligned with the US.

Based on Trump's foreign policy, the US wants to stay out of wars and develop its economy. If a war is primarily affecting EU like the Ukranian war, EU should contribute more to fight it, not make US pay for their wars. That's why Trump is backing down. US isn't used to giving hundreds of billions in exchange for nothing.

I swear usa don't fight war that affect it's economy. their economy matter to them. they have never experience war in their homeland like fighter
jet bombing them from the sky. usa too get sense

God1000:
Donald trump should go to hell, he's a big embarrassment and a disgrace to his office, you don't talk to another president that way

I have never seen a President act so disrespectful to a President of another country in my life. zelensky should have walked out on him.

Trump is a vile bully, his behaviour was appalling, Zelenskyy has shown strength and dignity that trump could only dream of

Cursed slave of gaybriel democrats is talking

dettolgel:
And Putin has so much for Ukraine?

trump said it zelensky don't want peace, if he wanted peace he would have negotiated with Russia. up to the extend of ban any talk with Russia, ban russian language, marginalising ethnic russian. that man is worst than nazi