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Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by BondRiv: 11:48pm On Feb 28, 2025
Zelensky was very disrespectful. I was angry with his attitude. I don't know what he smoked or who coached him, but he is messing with the wrong president. He must have taken a cue from Macron and Starmer's interruptions of Trump and went overboard with it. Like Trump said, the U.S. has made Zelensky a strongman in a war where ordinarily, without the U.S. he wouldn't last a day.
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by pansophist(m): 11:49pm On Feb 28, 2025
justwise:
Zelensky Is against peace? And Putin has been engaging in peace mission in Ukraine?
If Zelensky is for peace, why did he sign a decree refusing talks with Russia? why didn't he implemented the Minsk agreement? why was he killing the Russians in Donbass?
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Jozibrainz100: 11:54pm On Feb 28, 2025
God1000:
Such balderdash and disgraceful behavior from Donald trump and JD Vance

Hold your ground Mr zelensky, He’s a con artist and a crook.

Don't sign a deal giving your minerals away, just Walk away instead

JD Vance is a bigger idiot than I initially thought
Dunce!!!
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Nwaozizi24: 12:02am On Mar 01, 2025
"this war would have ended in two weeks" grin grin grin
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Goke7: 12:06am On Mar 01, 2025
Illusioneffect:
This shows you just watched a 2 minute clip
I watched the entire press conference with Zelensky. There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. The whole video gives the proper context.

When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was possible that Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky or were even trying to humiliate him. That's not what happened.

You had 40 minutes of calm conversation. Vance made a point that didn't attack Zelensky and wasn't even addressed to him, and Zelensky clearly started the argument.

In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we'll see." Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders.

For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would've signed a deal.

The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does. Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn't get us anywhere.

The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions. He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. Why on earth would you do this? Then came the fight we all saw.

Zelensky was minutes away from being home free, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump administration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic terms. This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument.

I've been a fan of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don't see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the administration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.
What was Vance sitting down there for? and what right does he have to challenge Zelensky? Vance ruined the entire conversation
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Goke7: 12:10am On Mar 01, 2025
BouquiLake:
You need to understand what he was trying to do—impress his boss!

The guy really isn't bright. I wonder why he was even there; it was a meeting between two presidents.

I couldn't help but laugh when Zelensky asked him if he had ever been to Ukraine, and he stuttered before finally saying that he had only watched the destruction on TV. Hahaha!

.
The thing tire me, youthful exuberance by the vp just messed things up
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by EnterpriseMan(m): 12:30am On Mar 01, 2025
fxexperts:
Most of you are just senseless kids. i swear.

Are you guys dumb or something, How did he start a war with Russia tell us. ode.

At least they will not die like cowards like you useless black folks always known to be cowards.
Your generation has been useless and worthless since the beginning of time.
Every last one of the Ukrainian soldiers will die like pigs in the trenches. You can pick up your gun and go and fight and die in the trenches too, it won't change the fate of your meaningless life.
You picked the wrong person to insult donkey

Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by EnterpriseMan(m): 12:32am On Mar 01, 2025
Arrowhead71:
What you are saying is meaningless
Good, bye bye. I did not quote or tag you
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by erniok(m): 1:01am On Mar 01, 2025
pansophist:
You have dranked to stupour western propaganda.

Ever heard of Minsk agreement? If Zelensky truly wants security guarantee, the minsk agreement was the best bet. But Zelensky didnt missed a chance to fork up.

Even German Chancellor Merkel admitted that the Minsk agreement was just to buy time to Ukraine can fight Russia. so what are you talking about?

I know we like to think of this fight like the one of an underdog and a giant, David and Goliath, or a helpless victim and an aggressor, but in reality, the fight is the one of a mad dog with HIV coming for a Tiger than lives across the stream.

If Ukraine didnt outrightly cancelled Russian language as an official language despite having millions of native Russian citizens, kill Million of Russians in Donbass, and want to join a hostile military organisation, there would have been peace.

Ukraine is the aggressor, a stupid one at that.
First, there's no English word like "dranked" but let's assume we are going to have an intelligent discuss.

Angela Merkel said that the Minsk agreements had been an attempt to "give Ukraine time" to build up its defences not to fight Russia as you claimed. This was because that war was Russia proxy war in response to what happened in Ukraine Feb 2014.

Russia still went ahead to break the.minsk protocol leading to mink2.

You can see you're already drunk on Russian propaganda.
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by erniok(m): 1:05am On Mar 01, 2025
Illusioneffect:
This shows you just watched a 2 minute clip
I watched the entire press conference with Zelensky. There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. The whole video gives the proper context.

When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was possible that Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky or were even trying to humiliate him. That's not what happened.

You had 40 minutes of calm conversation. Vance made a point that didn't attack Zelensky and wasn't even addressed to him, and Zelensky clearly started the argument.

In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we'll see." Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders.

For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would've signed a deal.

The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does. Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn't get us anywhere.

The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions. He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. Why on earth would you do this? Then came the fight we all saw.

Zelensky was minutes away from being home free, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump administration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic terms. This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument.

I've been a fan of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don't see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the administration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.
Reading this shows zelensky is not smart at all.
Thanks for the clearer picture painted.
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Forkthiefnubu: 1:27am On Mar 01, 2025
This is unbelievable
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by RodgersAkpafu: 1:34am On Mar 01, 2025
pansophist:
If Zelensky is for peace, why did he sign a decree refusing talks with Russia? why didn't he implemented the Minsk agreement? why was he killing the Russians in Donbass?
These are very mischievous questions....
Putin is clearly the aggressor here, and has been since 2014
Both sides would have handled this much better

But two men with ego have dealt a blow to their countries
Now both Ukraine and Russia has bled

Regardless of thr propaganda Putin might put out, Russia is haemorrhaging financially due to this three year misadventure without much progress.

But ego will not allow him
Anywyas
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by RodgersAkpafu: 1:35am On Mar 01, 2025
erniok:
First, there's no English word like "dranked" but let's assume we are going to have an intelligent discuss.

Angela Merkel said that the Minsk agreements had been an attempt to "give Ukraine time" to build up its defences not to fight Russia as you claimed. This was because that war was Russia proxy war in response to what happened in Ukraine Feb 2014.

Russia still went ahead to break the.minsk protocol leading to mink2.

You can see you're already drunk on Russian propaganda.
I suspect same as per the bolded
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Kobicove(m):
olaniyilukman:
you are a fool and good for nothing, who told you Ukraine started the war, it was Russia that invaded the ukraine
It is you and your entire generation that are good for nothing!

Thunder fire you and that your useless stinking mouth!
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Kobicove(m): 2:24am On Mar 01, 2025
Nicoddemus:
Oga sharrap you lack common sense. Point of correction Ukraine didn't start the war Russia did. Now what do you want Zelenskyy to do? Succumb to threats and offer their land to Russia because they're stronger. Commend Ukraine for once for being so brave against all odds even though I know you lack common sense. sad Why don't you blame Russia for invading a sovereign state because they think they are stronger . No wonder we have stupid sychophants in this country and ends up voting stupid people into power
You are a first class dunce and a confirmed ignoramus.

Go and update yourself and know why Russia invaded Ukraine before you come here to open your dirty smelly mouth!
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Kobicove(m): 2:28am On Mar 01, 2025
dru23:
So na Ukraine start war ba . So zelensky is dumb for fighting for his country.....

People like you are the reason Nigeria is were it is today. People like you are the reason that the Northerns feel so entitled to own Nigeria..

People like you are the types that will run to USA and look down on Black American and call them lazy etc . Because people like and your forefathers fail to fight for their country.
How is he fighting for his country if he was the one who antagonized Russia into attacking and destroying his country by his decision to seek membership of NATO.

Ignorant dunce, first go and update yourself so you will know why the was started in the first place
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Illusioneffect(m): 2:41am On Mar 01, 2025
Goke7:
What was Vance sitting down there for? and what right does he have to challenge Zelensky? Vance ruined the entire conversation
First of all- he's the Vice President he has every right to be there. Also he didn't ruin the conversation - the Ukrainian did and he tried to at every point of the 40 minutes conversation.
The 32 minutes was very cordial but the Ukrainian kept on being emotional throughout the discussions when they could have discussed it without the media plying through. He decided to ask Vance a very hostile question in a sane clime - if Vance decided not to answer the way he did it would have been really shameful to the USA whose stance is peace no matter the evil dictator Putin is
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Kobicove(m): 2:43am On Mar 01, 2025
fxexperts:
Some of you are really very dumb I swear.

Stop deceiving yourself and entire generation cowards.
Considering how old you are you are very ignorant and lacking in common sense which is proof that stupid people also grow old!

In Igboland we have a saying that goes thus - Sometimes we stand in the compound of the coward to point at the ruins of a brave man's compound.

Go and read about the war and understand what gave rise to it before you come here to open your ignorant mouth to disgrace your entire generation!
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by walozanga(m): 3:09am On Mar 01, 2025
God1000:
Such balderdash and disgraceful behavior from Donald trump and JD Vance

Hold your ground Mr zelensky, He’s a con artist and a crook.

Don't sign a deal giving your minerals away, just Walk away instead

JD Vance is a bigger idiot than I initially thought
.
. Who are u? Will u keep your mouth shot
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Nicoddemus(m): 3:47am On Mar 01, 2025
Kobicove:
You are a first class dunce and a confirmed ignoramus.

Go and update yourself and know why Russia invaded Ukraine before you come here to open your dirty smelly mouth!
Maybe you should also ask Latvia, Estonia and the rest why they abandoned their big uncle to seek shelter from NATO. Zombies like you always take sides with oppressors. Terrible people that deserve sudden death
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by TechBaron: 4:13am On Mar 01, 2025
Thundafireseun:
Olodo how is Trump a puppet?

Do you understand what WW111 is ??

There is no better way to put it to that comedian turn president that he is sick upstairs…

You don’t give a man’s job to a kid ….

The comedian is already low on soldier and he still won’t agree to a ceasefire because he wants to drag other countries into a senseless war
You're in your room calling a soilder who has been on the fronts for three years a comedian.

Lol

Internet!
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by TechBaron: 4:14am On Mar 01, 2025
casualobserver:
this Zelensky is not serious. somebody who embarks on state vists and cant even wear a suit....show some respect. I blame Biden and Europe for leading him on in a war he could never win.
For a man who has been on the war fronts for the past three years, wearing a suit should be the least of his worries.
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by Acidosis(m): 4:44am On Mar 01, 2025
This peace talk should have happened a long time ago when he had the support of the US and many EU countries. Zelensky should have considered potential political changes. He had the support of presidents who had only four years to complete their tenures, fighting against a country whose president had been in power for over 20 years.

Each regime change comes with different interests and foreign policies. He probably never imagined that the war would last for years. Obviously, people who encouraged and supported him also did not imagine that the war would go on this long; otherwise, they would have likely sought peace instead. Everyone obviously "wanted" the downfall of Russia. But the reality is that Russia stood strong despite all the sanctions. The signs were there. The best time to end the war was yesterday.

Many new channels even dedicated special moments to discuss this war because like everyone else, they thought that Russia would be defeated in matter of months. Well it's 3 years now and everyone of them have simply moved and dedicated their airtime to something more productive. It's time to f. move from the needless war.
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by StoryHaven: 4:58am On Mar 01, 2025
Abbeyme:
Trump is a bully
in simple sentence.
He thinks too much of himself too
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by StoryHaven: 5:02am On Mar 01, 2025
Nahunger:
angry grin

Wow
Zelensky get mind, there is something giving him this moral sha.
If you were afraid of a bully and you summon courage to stand up against him and fight starts and to your surprise, you still dey fight am since morning and you discover he is yet to floor you.
Abegi, your moral go double.
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by StoryHaven: 5:11am On Mar 01, 2025
Thundafireseun:
Olodo how is Trump a puppet?

Do you understand what WW111 is ??

There is no better way to put it to that comedian turn president that he is sick upstairs…

You don’t give a man’s job to a kid ….

The comedian is already low on soldier and he still won’t agree to a ceasefire because he wants to drag other countries into a senseless war
You are an ignorant fellow.
You guys mocking Zelensky because of his line of job before becoming a President are the ones sick upstairs.
I bet you cant stand shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Ali Baba, Basket mouth, or AY FINANCIALLY. So, what is strange in being a comedian.
The guy has just stood up against bullies and he deserves kudos.
He is not less a President as Trump so, Trump cant order him around.

Mind you, the same RUSSIA you guys praise is sweating despite using macenaries from other countries. For how many years?
Abegi, swerve!!
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by MERCHANDISER: 5:18am On Mar 01, 2025
Great0ne1:
Una dey craze for this country ooh.
So you actually want Trump to send us soldiers to fight Russia in Ukraine? Are you aware that such action will gives Russia every justificatfion to strike us cities ? Do you want to start a world war ? What kind of humans beings do we even have here ?
This Zelenzky guy doesn't even want the war to end.

If I were him,I will humble myself and fly to Moscow, negotiate with Putin grin
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by MERCHANDISER: 5:19am On Mar 01, 2025
favor914:
The people that deceived the idiot to go & fight his uncle, are no longer in power, from The European nations The UK, Germany, Italy etc, Emmanuel Macron is the only survivor.

Yankee Biden done fall.
This Zelenzky guy doesn't even want the war to end.

If I were him,I will humble myself and fly to Moscow, negotiate with Putin grin
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by MERCHANDISER: 5:20am On Mar 01, 2025
Empresa:
Zelensky needs to understand that peace is much better than seeing people dieing.

If US pulls out, he will be dead, because Putin will go for his head and take over the entire Ukraine
This Zelenzky guy doesn't even want the war to end.

If I were him,I will humble myself and fly to Moscow, negotiate with Putin grin
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by MERCHANDISER: 5:22am On Mar 01, 2025
pansophist:
A lapdog for wanting peace? shocked
They thought Russia is small country like Belarus grin

Putin is even lenient with Ukrainians unlike what Israel did in Gaza
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by MERCHANDISER: 5:26am On Mar 01, 2025
Illusioneffect:
This shows you just watched a 2 minute clip
I watched the entire press conference with Zelensky. There was 40 minutes of discussion up to the argument. Most people saw at most the last ten minutes. The whole video gives the proper context.

When I first watched the argument without the proper context, I thought it was possible that Trump and Vance ambushed Zelensky or were even trying to humiliate him. That's not what happened.

You had 40 minutes of calm conversation. Vance made a point that didn't attack Zelensky and wasn't even addressed to him, and Zelensky clearly started the argument.

In the first 40 minutes, Zelensky kept trying to go beyond what was negotiated in the deal. When Trump was asked a question, it was always "we'll see." Zelensky made blanket assertions that there would be no negotiating with Putin, and that Russia would pay for the war. When Trump said that it was a tragedy that people on both sides were dying, Zelensky interjected that the Russians were the invaders.

For his part, Trump made clear that the US would continue delivering military aid. All Zelensky had to do was remain calm for a few more minutes and they would've signed a deal.

The argument started when Trump pointed out that it would be hard to make a deal if you talk about Putin the way Zelensky does. Vance interjects to make the reasonable point that Biden called Putin names and that didn't get us anywhere.

The Zelensky/Trump dynamic was calm and stable. It was when Vance spoke that Zelensky started to interrogate him. Throughout the press conference to that point, everyone was making their arguments directly to the audience. Zelensky decided to challenge Vance and ask him hostile questions. He went back to his point that Putin never sticks to ceasefires, once again implying that negotiations are pointless. Why on earth would you do this? Then came the fight we all saw.

Zelensky was minutes away from being home free, and he would have had the deal and new commitments from the Trump administration. The point Vance made was directed against Biden and the media, taking them to task for speaking in moralistic terms. This offended Zelensky, and that began the argument.

I've been a fan of Zelensky up to this point, but this showed so much incompetence, if not emotional instability, that I don't see how he recovers from this. The relationship with the administration is broken. Ukraine should probably go with new leadership at this point.
This Zelenzky guy doesn't even want the war to end.

If I were him,I will humble myself and fly to Moscow, negotiate with Putin grin
Re: "Show Respect": Trump, US VP In Fiery Exchange With Zelenskyy Over Russian War by MERCHANDISER: 5:29am On Mar 01, 2025
Goke7:
What was Vance sitting down there for? and what right does he have to challenge Zelensky? Vance ruined the entire conversation
Who is a clown(zelenzky) where JD Vance is?
What kind of weed do you smoke? grin
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