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Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by dru23(m): 11:41pm On Feb 28, 2025
dettolgel:
Russians bot are really working over time on Nairaland.

Zelensky is a man, he stood up against bullies today. He didn't cow into selling his country out. The Ukrainians and lovers of freedom are very proud of him.

Go to Ukrainian cyberspace and see how proud they are of him.
Nigerians will never understand what it is to fight for freedom . I think the most important is as long as the Urakine people support Zelensky that is all that matters..

We fight together and die together.. .. if our forefathers really fought the good fight. Nigeria would have been a better place now....
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by givedemwotowoto: 11:42pm On Feb 28, 2025
MT:
The world doesn’t need up to 1000 nukes to be completely destroyed. Stop talking about nukes like you are talking about mere missiles.

Do you even know what you are talking about? Japan and South Korea are in no position to contain china. What are you talking about dude?

The free world obviously needs a new leader. We are at a point in history where the wheels are about to come off

You don’t know Europe is one of the main blocs propping US economy,. Their country savings are largely warehoused in the US . They settle their international trades using USD

If EU takes a different position, the US will be in dilemma. We have not got to this stage but the world is heading towards it gradually
Japan has at least 5 US military bases and 50,000 US troops which serve as US entry points in case China tries to get aggressive with the US.

South Korea also has at least 3 US military basis with at least 28,000 troops.

This keeps China at bay, out of US business.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by justuschi50: 11:44pm On Feb 28, 2025
givedemwotowoto:
You're implying that the US can't stand up to the oppressed. I consider that being intellectually dishonest. The US stood up to Russia for years now, but when they complained about not getting anything in return, Zelensky should've offered those minerals without them even asking. They already gave you hundreds of billions without asking for anything in return. Do you know how much American taxpayers are paying for it? Come on now.

Why don't you compare Israel to Ukraine? That's how an ally behaves, stay loyal to those who stand behind you. When Trump said he wanted to take over Gaza, Israel was ready to enforce it. Zelensky should've jumped on Trump's offer to take minerals knowing that's his way of securing at least what is remaining of his country.

Entitlement mentality is bad. Stop being entitled. Behave like an ally if you're one.
he's hate for Russia is too much, even more than the usa. that man can never bring peace to ukraine all that is in is brain is defeat russia. he has not even give chance for negotiation
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by justuschi50: 11:48pm On Feb 28, 2025
dru23:
Nigerians will never understand what it is to fight for freedom . I think the most important is as long as the Urakine people support Zelensky that is all that matters..

We fight together and die together.. .. if our forefathers really fought the good fight. Nigeria would have been a better place now....
this is not about freedom fight they are so fight that are not what it. in eastern ukraine ethnic russian want to join Russia but zelensky regime is oppress them. zelensky is a nazi let just say the truth.
destroy russia is what is in is brain
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by NaijaRealtor: 11:49pm On Feb 28, 2025
OgaTheTop2:
It's not about bully, it's about common sense! Zelensky is becoming a leech on American taxpayers money. Zelensky is making money from the war, he doesn't want the war to end. Wonder why Trump called Biden 'stupid' in that meeting? Trump is right on this one....No more free money for Zelensky... Enough is enough!
Even if the call to end the war was a good move, Trump's approach was silly.

You don't talk to another president like that.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by Nwaozizi24: 11:49pm On Feb 28, 2025
Na like this they go take do the negotiation?
Ukraine don suffer
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by justuschi50: 11:50pm On Feb 28, 2025
waternogatenemy:
LOL

COCOCANDY SWEETHEART, COME AND WATCH NEWS grin angry grin angry angry grin



E GOOD TO GET SENSE, WHERE ARE ALL THOSE WHO WAS SUPPORTING THIS WAR WEN WE WERE TELLING THEM, UKRAINE IS GETTING USED.
america is very corny. they don't have friends only interest
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by TheBillyonaire: 11:50pm On Feb 28, 2025
Raynald:
Now i will ask you my dear wise friend
How is Zelensky going to stand his ground in the war without USA
His pride wont let him meet with Putin. I recommend that he meets with Putin instead of 50% of minerals to USA which is basically becoming a US colony, he should meet with Putin, and strike a deal for Russia to keep the territory they won and end the war without having to cede more land and give up their resources. If he can secure guarantee from Russia and become Russia's colony or some form of Soviet Relationship, then Russia will protect Ukraine from these USA/Europa parasites.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by pansophist(m): 11:52pm On Feb 28, 2025
God1000:
Donald trump should go to hell, he's a big embarrassment and a disgrace to his office, you don't talk to another president that way

I have never seen a President act so disrespectful to a President of another country in my life. zelensky should have walked out on him.

Trump is a vile bully, his behaviour was appalling, Zelenskyy has shown strength and dignity that trump could only dream of
Dignity does not come from begging. Touring the world begging for weapons and money, to fight an enemy stronger, richer, bigger, tougher, and popular than you.

Dignity is preventing the war from happening, and not escalating or barring communication.

If anyone here has dignity, its not Zelensky.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by pansophist(m): 11:55pm On Feb 28, 2025
TheBillyonaire:
That was shameful to watch.

Zelensky needs to stand his ground and not cede any resources to USA. They funded that war just to launder money back to themselves, now Ukraine has to lose more lands and resources for both USA and Russia?
You talk as if Zelensky have any bargaining power to do anything.

Let me clear you small. The land already belongs to Russia, same way the bushmeat you caught already belongs to you.

Whether the bush meat agrees to be your dinner tonight is not your problem, what can the bushmeat do? There is no morality here, just pure strength. The bushmeat is powerless in your hand, and you decide its fate.

I repeat, you decide its fate. Thats the perks of being strong. The weak must follow your directive even if they will be sacrificed.

So please tell Zelensky not to sign anything, and just like Crimea was lost in 2014, Donbass is also lost, and no one cares about Zelensky signing or not.

Otilo
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by MT: 11:57pm On Feb 28, 2025
givedemwotowoto:
Japan hast at least 5 US military bases and 50,000 US troops which serve as US entry points in case China tries to get aggressive with the US.

South Korea also has at least 3 US military basis with at least 28,000 troops.

This keeps China at bay, out of US business.
I suppose you need to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0okOrVaLCA

Please know that that is not the US military fighting china alone over Taiwan but with all the NATO might backing the US against China
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by BondRiv: 11:57pm On Feb 28, 2025
Trump was really patient with that tool called Zelensky. Imagine the disrespect.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by dettolgel: 11:57pm On Feb 28, 2025
dru23:
Nigerians will never understand what it is to fight for freedom . I think the most important is as long as the Urakine people support Zelensky that is all that matters..

We fight together and die together.. .. if our forefathers really fought the good fight. Nigeria would have been a better place now....
Nigerians dont know what true patriotism is, it is evident in their politicians.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by dettolgel:
BondRiv:
Trump was really patient with that tool called Zelensky. Imagine the disrespect.
Russian troll, we sight you. Not everyone is ready to sell out their country at the drop of a hat. There are still men with dignity, that I know for sure that Nigerian's leaders lack.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by pansophist(m): 12:00am On Mar 01, 2025
lereinter:
It will not be better for this village idiot called trump

Killer, bully stupïd man

Because of minerals, you are boldly giving the blame to the person who deserves praise

Imagine joining hands with Russia to plummet Ukraine

What a satanic world we live
Nex time, tell anyone around you not to be a sacrificial lamb, or a puppet. It always end badly.

Being a pupper is like being a fine girl. Toasting, gifts and money, attention and sexy preek will be coming from everywhere, and you will feel on top the world, but at the end, no one will own you.

Humans aint good people. Refuse to be used.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by dettolgel: 12:01am On Mar 01, 2025
pansophist:
You talk as if Zelensky have any bargaining power to do anything.

Let me clear you small. The land already belongs to Russia, same way the bushmeat you caught already belongs to you.

Whether the bush meat agrees to be your dinner tonight is not your problem, what can the bushmeat do? There is no morality here, just pure strength. The bushmeat is powerless in your hand, and you decide its fate.

I repeat, you decide its fate. Thats the perks of being strong. The weak must follow your directive even if they will be sacrificed.

So please tell Zelensky not to sign anything, and just like Crimea was lost in 2014, Donbass is also lost, and no one cares about Zelensky signing or not.

Otilo
If Zelensky has already lost it why dont Trump and sign a deal with Putin? Why waste his time with Zelensky? grin
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by givedemwotowoto: 12:02am On Mar 01, 2025
MT:
I suppose you need to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0okOrVaLCA

Please know that that is not the US military fighting china alone over Taiwan but with all the NATO might backing the US against China
China loses 10,000 and up to 30,000 prisoners of war, Taiwan loses 5,000, US loses 5,000. Chinese government overthrown. Anything else you want me to know?
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by pansophist(m): 12:03am On Mar 01, 2025
givedemwotowoto:
Japan has at least 5 US military bases and 50,000 US troops which serve as US entry points in case China tries to get aggressive with the US.

South Korea also has at least 3 US military basis with at least 28,000 troops.

This keeps China at bay, out of US business.
You realise Japan is an island right? As in, there is a giant body of water separating Japan and China. Also, the US military installation in Japan is like a sitting duck. Just one missle, and it turns to smoke.

If you ever think the Chinese loose sleep because some horney, obese US solders are in Japan indulging in hedonism, then you do not know whats up.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by BondRiv: 12:04am On Mar 01, 2025
dru23:
Nigerians will never understand what it is to fight for freedom . I think the most important is as long as the Urakine people support Zelensky that is all that matters..

We fight together and die together.. .. if our forefathers really fought the good fight. Nigeria would have been a better place now....
You don't know what you are talking about. If you don't understand international politics and diplomacy, just keep quiet. After everything you saw online or read about the meeting, for you to comment this way, simply shows you are out of your depth.

Zelensky screwed up at the White House, enough to even piss off Graham. At this point, I will only be satisfied, if Russia takes the whole country and calls it a day.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by OgaTheTop2: 12:05am On Mar 01, 2025
NaijaRealtor:
Even if the call to end the war was a good move, Trump's approach was silly.

You don't talk to another president like that.
Yes, you are correct.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by OgaTheTop2: 12:06am On Mar 01, 2025
7upnigeria:
Trump na werey, the video still dey shock me.
Shocked me too, but we have to look at the larger picture...
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by BondRiv: 12:08am On Mar 01, 2025
NaijaRealtor:
Even if the call to end the war was a good move, Trump's approach was silly.

You don't talk to another president like that.
You absolutely do when they are as disrespectful as Zelensky was and you are the freaking President of the USA. Only a fool will let that slide.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by pansophist(m): 12:10am On Mar 01, 2025
dettolgel:
If Zelensky has already lost it why dont Trump and sign a deal with Putin? Why waste his time with Zelensky? grin
Ever heard of international law? or Due process?

Someone from Ukraine has to sign something, so summoning Zelensky is fulfilling all righteousness. Its necessary so the world can recognise the new territories as Russian.

For example, on 15th August 2013, the Cameroonian government gained full sovereignty of the bakassi penisula after the court ruled in their favour against Nigeria. This process is necessary for diplomatic reasons, so it is clear to the world who has it.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by TheBillyonaire: 12:11am On Mar 01, 2025
pansophist:
You talk as if Zelensky have any bargaining power to do anything.

Let me clear you small. The land already belongs to Russia, same way the bushmeat you caught already belongs to you.

Whether the bush meat agrees to be your dinner tonight is not your problem, what can the bushmeat do? There is no morality here, just pure strength. The bushmeat is powerless in your hand, and you decide its fate.

I repeat, you decide its fate. Thats the perks of being strong. The weak must follow your directive even if they will be sacrificed.

So please tell Zelensky not to sign anything, and just like Crimea was lost in 2014, Donbass is also lost, and no one cares about Zelensky signing or not.

Otilo
I agree, but he has just one option. To surrender to Russia, plead with Putin and invoke the old Soviet friendship, that way he can keep the minerals and the land he still has. Putin is a reasonable man and if he can get President Xi to talk to Putin, it might be helpful.

But pride wont let him.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by pansophist(m): 12:16am On Mar 01, 2025
TheBillyonaire:
I agree, but he has just one option. To surrender to Russia, plead with Putin and evoke the old Soviet friendship, that way he can keep the minerals and the land he still has.

But pride wont let him.
He cant do it even if he wants to.

Zelensky has no freedom. His presidential plane is foreign as well as the pilots. His bodyguards are foreigners, and all his communications, activities even phone calls are highly monitored.

Do not ever think the west will spend all these billions on Zelensky, suffers so much with their diplomatic cutoff with Russia, and allow Zelensky to disgrace them.

Putin even mentioned about how many western leaders have lost their independence, especially the saga few years ago how the US was tapping the calls of German chancellor Angela Merkel.

The devil is not dumb, he is smart. Zelensky cant do it. If he tries it, they will know, and he will die.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by givedemwotowoto: 12:17am On Mar 01, 2025
pansophist:
You realise Japan is an island right? As in, there is a giant body of water separating Japan and China. Also, the US military installation in Japan is like a sitting duck. Just one missle, and it turns to smoke.

If you ever think the Chinese loose sleep because some horney, obese US solders are in Japan indulging in hedonism, then you do not know whats up.
Japan has sea borders with China. In fact Japan had control of many large Chinese cities during WW2. Some Japanese cities are very close to China. Some boats will cross over to China from Japan in less the time it takes to travel from Kaduna to Abuja by road

Btw, Why am I seeing mostly anti-US threats and rhetoric here? Are you friends or foes of the US?

Shouldn’t the conversation here be about EU joining the US to ask Zelensky to give up those minerals to say thank you to the US? The hundreds of billions given never do Zelensky? Must US tax their taxpayers to death to “save humanity” and still get this type of entitlement as reward?
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by BondRiv: 12:17am On Mar 01, 2025
dettolgel:
Russian troll, we sight you. Not everyone will is ready to sell out their country at the drop of a hat. There are still men with dignity, that I know for sure that Nigerian's leaders lack.
I accept your ignorance of politics and diplomacy. It is why you resorted to name-calling. Anyone can post this crap you did. Try to get an in-depth knowledge of the topic, then make informed analysis. Zelensky is in no position to dictate.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by TheBillyonaire: 12:25am On Mar 01, 2025
pansophist:
He cant do it even if he wants to.

Zelensky has no freedom. His presidential plane is foreign as well as the pilots. His bodyguards are foreigners, and all his communications, activities even phone calls are highly monitored.

Do not ever think the west will spend all these billions on Zelensky, suffers so much with their diplomatic cutoff with Russia, and allow Zelensky to disgrace them.

Putin even mentioned about how many western leaders have lost their independence, especially the sage few years ago how the US was tapping the calls of German chancellor Angela Merkel.

The devil is not dumb, he is smart. Zelensky cant do it. If he tries it, they will know, and he will die.
If he really wants to do it, there is always a way. The old fashion way. He could send a trusted messenger with a hand written letter, the challenge is if Putin turns down the request, it is over for him, he becomes a dead man.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by dettolgel: 12:28am On Mar 01, 2025
pansophist:
Ever heard of international law? or Due process?

Someone from Ukraine has to sign something, so summoning Zelensky is fulfilling all righteousness. Its necessary so the world can recognise the new territories as Russian.

For example, on 15th August 2013, the Cameroonian government gained full sovereignty of the bakassi penisula after the court ruled in their favour against Nigeria. This process is necessary for diplomatic reasons, so it is clear to the world who has it.
So technically Zelensky still has a hat in the ring?

Where was that due process when Libya was attacked and her resource shared amongst the hounds that went it there. Same for Iraq and Afghanistan. Or wait I don't remember Trump even inviting anyone to come and sign off on his planned demolition of Gaza.

Russian troll you guys are working over time here today grin
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by pansophist(m): 12:29am On Mar 01, 2025
TheBillyonaire:
If he really wants to do it, there is always a way. The old fashion way. He could send a trusted messenger with a hand written letter, the challenge is if Putin turns down the request, it is over for him, he becomes a dead man.
From Putin side, I cannot think of greater way to punish Putin. Look at what happened to Prigozhin, do you honestly believe that guy died without political intervention?

Zelensky has caused so much pain to Russia, the hundreds of thousands that have died already. Putin will cut him to pieces.
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by dettolgel: 12:31am On Mar 01, 2025
BondRiv:
I accept your ignorance of politics and diplomacy. It is why you resorted to name-calling. Anyone can post this crap you did. Try to get an in-depth knowledge of the topic, then make informed analysis. Zelensky is in no position to dictate.
Ignorance you said? I have seen how your vast knowledge is playing out well with the choices you guys made in Nigeria. If politics is being discussed anywhere Nigerians should be ashamed to even open their mouth. grin
Re: Zelenskyy doesn't want peace, He Can Come Back When He Is Ready - Trump by pansophist(m): 12:32am On Mar 01, 2025
dettolgel:
So technically Zelensky still has a hat in the ring?

Where was that due process when Libya was attacked and her resource shared amongst the hounds that went it there. Same for Iraq and Afghanistan. Or wait I don't remember Trump even inviting anyone to come and sign off on his planned demolition of Gaza.

Russian troll you guys are working over time here today grin
Oh, you are talking about weak countries. Suffering is their fate by default.

Russia is a giant, a strong civilisations at least a thousand year old, it is not a pushover, never being colonised, has nukes, a permanent member of UNSC, world largest country, and has Putin.

You cant expect the Afganistan treatment against Russia, do you? In the rule base order, only strength is respected, not sovereignty.
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