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Wallade:
The matters of Ukraine is ultimately determined by Ukrainians. Zelensky is just the President representing Ukrainians and I think he speaks for them.

The minerals and material resources are theirs and there was never an agreement abinitio that USA financial and artillery support to Ukraine were supposed to be paid for by Ukraine. It was also the USA that led Ukraine on to the war part with Russia in the first place by backing and pushing for cover from them in NATO.

The USA, under the new administration of Donald Trump, is now trying to bully and compel the Ukrainians to commit to a deal that trades off their mineral resources for little or no reward. Zelensky has a right to resist the bullish approach adopted by the Donald Trump administration.

I hope the war comes to an end soon but not with the treacherous, bullish and self centered behavior of the Trump administration.

I think Zelensky and the Ukrainians should rather take refuge and solicit support of the European Nations, not NATO(for now) and USA anymore.

Right there! Zelensky term has expired. His people are tired of him and wants him gone. His rating and approval is very low. Many Ukrainians on the battlefield have spoken about peace deal long before Trump came but Zelensky and Biden didn't want to hear it. What more can I say?

maasoap:
Right there! Zelensky term has expired. His people are tired of him and wants him gone. His rating and approval is very low. Many Ukrainians on the battlefield have spoken about peace deal long before Trump came but Zelensky and Biden didn't want to hear it. What more can I say?

Are you a Ukrainian?

The same Zelensky that Ukrainians passed a resolution that there can be no election during war, just last nonyh.

Is it even logical for you that Ukrainians will conduct an election during the war?

There can only be elections after the war is over so you have to respect Zelensky and accord him the respect that he deserves.

He is still the president of Ukraine.

Wallade:
Are you a Ukrainian?

The same Zelensky that Ukrainians passed a resolution that there can be no election during war, just last nonyh.

Is it even logical for you that Ukrainians will conduct an election during the war?

There can only be elections after the war is over so you have to respect Zelensky and accord him the respect that he deserves.

He is still the president of Ukraine.

You meant his cabinet members who are together sharing the windfalls with him? Billions of American dollars coming in monthly no be small money, there are reports on how they're lavishing the money.
I'm not an Ukrainian just like you but I follow quite a number of Russia/Ukraine platforms on telegram to know better.
Dude is picking up every available "men" on the streets, giving them guns and sending them to the warfront. I bet you didn't know this and it will be hard for you to believe

Continue to be proud of Zelensky. Very difficult to stand up to bullies and he did successfully.

Win or lose - Ukrainian history will remember him kindly.

lexy2014:
what is wrong with telling the US that they are lucky to have the ocean that separates them and that things may go wrong for them in the future?

what was said to him that prompted him to say so?

how does "incorrectly declaring to them that they have been alone from the beginning" make a spectacle in front of the media?

how does Zelensky folding his hands across his chest suggest that he was disrespectful to his hosts?

how did Zelensky roll his eyes and what is the opinion of uncle sam that he shrugged off?

did the same uncle sam accept or shrg off zelenskys opinions?

what is the correlation between rolling eyes and shrugging at Uncle Sam's opinions and not wanting peace?

how is does one equate to the other?

Go and rewatch the video. For a moment, Trump was quietly observing until Zelensky made that statement and he changed it for him straightaway. It was at that point things became heated. There is a lot wrong in speaking to your benefactor like that. That is emotional blackmail and a veiled evil wish. Trump returned his negative utterance pronto declaring "they will feel good and very strong". How can someone that needs help come and be saying "ha, you don't know tomorrow oh, hmmmm, things can go awry for you tomorrow oh". That is a terrible person. Virtually everybody will cut the person shut right there.

Now I am not saying you have to maintain a servitude, beg beg posture when you need help, but you have to be diplomatic and very picky in your utterances. Anything contrary, the end result is that you'll be ridiculed and you'll get nothing. And that is what has happened.

Please think am now. You have someone you are sponsoring, say in school, and during a rendezvous with your entire family members the person kept declaring "I have been alone from the beginning". It is disrespectful if you want to be sincere. Nobody will tolerate that.

I wont even tolerate such utterance from the child that came from loins. I've committed an amount multiple times some other families annual budget to you and you have the audacity to be telling me to my face, in front of my entire family that "I have been alone from the beginning". Invariably saying my support has been non-existent. No! That is incorrect. They have not been alone. They were kept afloat by US weapons, financial and intelligence support. He's trying to be clever by half! He's being arrogant and cunny. Trump was right to interrupt and correct him that they have not been alone. Though Trump as a person can be brash and imposing, but Zelensky himself is a diplomatic disaster.

agabusta:
Go and rewatch the video. For a moment, Trump was quietly observing until Zelensky made that statement and he changed it for him straightaway. It was at that point things became heated. There is a lot wrong in speaking to your benefactor like that. That is emotional blackmail and a veiled evil wish. Trump returned his negative utterance pronto declaring "they will feel good and very strong". How can someone that needs help come and be saying "ha, you don't know tomorrow oh, hmmmm, things can go awry for you tomorrow oh". That is a terrible person. Virtually everybody will cut the person shut right there.

Now I am not saying you have to maintain a servitude, beg beg posture when you need help, but you have to be diplomatic and very picky in your utterances. Anything contrary, the end result is that you'll be ridiculed and you'll get nothing. And that is what has happened.

Please think am now. You have someone you are sponsoring, say in school, and during a rendezvous with your entire family members the person kept declaring "I have been alone from the beginning". It is disrespectful if you want to be sincere. Nobody will tolerate that.

I wont even tolerate such utterance from the child that came from loins. I've committed an amount multiple times some other families annual budget to you and you have the audacity to be telling me to my face, in front of my entire family that "I have been alone from the beginning". Invariably saying my support has been non-existent. No! That is incorrect. They have not been alone. They were kept afloat by US weapons, financial and intelligence support. He's trying to be clever by half! He's being arrogant and cunny. Trump was right to interrupt and correct him that they have not been alone. Though Trump as a person can be brash and imposing, but Zelensky himself is a diplomatic disaster.

1. what is wrong with telling the US that they are lucky to have the ocean that separates them and that things may go wrong for them in the future?

2. what was said to him that prompted him to say so?

3. how does "incorrectly declaring to them that they have been alone from the beginning" make a spectacle in front of the media?

4. how does Zelensky folding his hands across his chest suggest that he was disrespectful to his hosts?

5. how did Zelensky roll his eyes and what is the opinion of uncle sam that he shrugged off?

6. did the same uncle sam accept or shrug off zelenskys opinions?

7. what is the correlation between rolling eyes and shrugging at Uncle Sam's opinions and not wanting peace?

8. how does one equate to the other?

9. whose idea was it to bring that meeting in front of the press?

fxexperts:
He doesn't have the skill you say but he has held the bully Russia for 3 years now, so you want him to resign so that PUTIn will handpick his man who will sell the country to Putin for free right. you must be sick.

Both you and the idiot you are doffing your hat for are clowns, jokers of the century.

You sound pained and a bigger clown. Go to US treasury and take cash from there to your fellow clownish president that has lost millions of lives including almost 25% of his territory.

maasoap:
You meant his cabinet members who are together sharing the windfalls with him? Billions of American dollars coming in monthly no be small money, there are reports on how they're lavishing the money.
I'm not an Ukrainian just like you but I follow quite a number of Russia/Ukraine platforms on telegram to know better.
Dude is picking up every available "men" on the streets, giving them guns and sending them to the warfront. I bet you didn't know this and it will be hard for you to believe

Well, in the state of war, every youth is eligible for war human resources.

I am not in support of the war but USA can be acting like a saint when in reality, USA somehow pushed Ukraine into the war.

maasoap:
You meant his cabinet members who are together sharing the windfalls with him? Billions of American dollars coming in monthly no be small money, there are reports on how they're lavishing the money.
I'm not an Ukrainian just like you but I follow quite a number of Russia/Ukraine platforms on telegram to know better.
Dude is picking up every available "men" on the streets, giving them guns and sending them to the warfront. I bet you didn't know this and it will be hard for you to believe

Well, in the state of war, every youth is eligible for war human resources.

I am not in support of the war but USA can't be acting like a saint when in reality, USA somehow pushed Ukraine into the war.

I don't know about how they share the resources of USA sent to ukraine, I don't know if they embezzle it but I think it is not logical to conduct another election to replace him in the midst of war.

Saao:
you want to compare Israel with Ukraine? Can any country annex any part of Israel? Currently Russia has annexed some territories of Ukraine even with the help of West, imagine without their help? People are dying and will continue to die if nothing is done, that's what Trump want to stop.

Trump is a thief what kind of deal for a whole country to hand over their mineral resources to you in exchange for defence deal. Kai the prodigal son called zelensky is in trouble. May God help ukraine people

NovusHomo:
There is something rancid in America, a slow, creeping rot that smells like cold McDonald’s fries, aerosol hairspray, and the unmistakable musk of a country too sedated to recognize its own hostage situation. For years, the idea that Donald Trump was compromised by Russia was dismissed as paranoid fantasy—just another wild-eyed conspiracy theory, another overblown headline in the endless saga of American political dysfunction.

But now, two former Soviet intelligence officers—Alnur Mussayev and Yuri Shvets—are saying it outright: Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987, groomed as an asset, and remains under Russian control to this day.

And the worst part? He’s already back in the White House.

That’s right, America. You did it. You walked face-first into the banana peel of history, slipped, and fell straight into the arms of Vladimir Putin. Trump was kicked out in 2020, spent four years plotting his comeback, and now he’s returned, like a bloated, orange cockroach that just won’t die. The Kremlin’s favorite stooge is running the country again, and this time, he knows exactly how to stay in power.

If you think this is just another round of the Trump Show, you’re not paying attention. This isn’t politics anymore. This is treason. This is foreign subversion. This is a goddamn coup in slow motion.

Let’s break it down, nice and simple.

Alnur Mussayev isn’t some Twitter conspiracy theorist with a tinfoil hat and a podcast. He’s the former head of Kazakhstan’s National Security Committee, which means he knows exactly how Russian intelligence works—because he was part of the system. And what he’s saying should make every American’s blood run cold.

According to Mussayev, Trump was identified, recruited, and compromised by the KGB in 1987 during his first trip to Moscow. They saw him for what he was: a narcissistic, greedy, attention-starved buffoon who could be easily manipulated. The KGB flattered him, promised him business deals, and planted the seeds of political ambition in his empty little head. And from that moment on, he was their man.

But Mussayev isn’t alone. Former KGB major Yuri Shvets said the exact same thing in 2021: Trump was cultivated by Soviet intelligence because he was an easy mark—too stupid to realize he was being played, too egotistical to care. They saw him as a useful idiot—a man who could one day be nudged into power, a walking, talking Trojan Horse for Russian interests.

And now? The plan has worked. Trump spent four years in office weakening America from within, got booted out, and now he’s back for round two.

If you had told the American public in 1962 that a Soviet-backed asset would one day sit in the White House, they would have burned Washington to the ground before letting it happen. But today? Nobody seems to care.

The media treats this like just another wacky subplot in the never-ending Trump reality show. Congress is too busy fighting over meaningless culture war nonsense to do anything about it. And the American public? Exhausted. Numb. Checked out. Years of scandals—Russia collusion, Ukraine blackmail, classified documents, tax fraud, sexual assault, an attempted coup—have fried the country’s brain like an overcooked steak at Mar-a-Lago.

Trump has done the impossible. He has committed so many crimes, so openly, so brazenly, that none of them matter anymore.

And now, with Mussayev’s revelation that Trump is an active foreign asset, we have finally reached the point where the biggest political scandal in American history is met with a collective shrug.

This is how democracy dies—not with a bang, but with a goddamn eye-roll.

This is the part where the skeptics start clutching their pearls. “Oh, come on,” they say. “If Trump were really a Russian asset, wouldn’t there be more proof?”

To which I say: Are you blind, or just willfully stupid?

Let’s go through the evidence, shall we?

Trump spent his entire first term doing exactly what Russia wanted. He attacked NATO, calling it “obsolete” and threatening to pull the U.S. out. He tried to blackmail Ukraine into manufacturing dirt on Joe Biden, because weakening Ukraine helps one man and one man only: Vladimir Putin. He pulled U.S. troops out of Syria, handing power over to Russian forces. He picked fights with Canada and Europe while cozying up to dictators.

Even now, in his second term, he is more openly pro-Putin than ever. He has made it clear that he will not protect NATO allies from Russian aggression. He is actively dismantling America’s alliances, just as Russia planned. And while Americans scream at each other over whether Target should sell rainbow t-shirts, Trump is quietly selling the country to the Kremlin.

At some point, you have to stop calling it a coincidence and start calling it what it is: treason.

The United States is running out of time. If Trump serves out this term without being removed, America as a functioning democracy is finished.

The media needs to wake up. Enough with the “Trump fatigue” excuse. This is not just another scandal—this is the single greatest infiltration of American power in history. Journalists need to dig into Mussayev’s claims, demand declassification of intelligence files, and treat this like the national emergency that it is.

Congress needs to subpoena Mussayev immediately. His testimony must be public, and every document he has should be reviewed. If there is proof that Trump has been compromised since the 1980s, the American people need to know.

The Justice Department needs to stop pretending that Trump is just another politician. If there is evidence that the sitting president of the United States is working in Russia’s interests, he must be removed from office and prosecuted for espionage.

And the American public? You have one last chance. This is not about Republican vs. Democrat. This is not about taxes, gas prices, or whatever nonsense outrage is dominating the news today. This is about whether the United States remains a sovereign nation, or if we spend the rest of the century as a Russian client state with a golf course.

The sheer volume of Trump's corruption, the blatant nature of his crimes, the mountain of evidence that should have ended his political career a hundred times over—none of it mattered. He survived it all, not because he was innocent, but because he drowned the country in so much scandal that nothing stuck.

But this time, it’s different. If Mussayev and Shvets are right, this isn’t just another chapter in the endless Trump circus. This is the culmination of a decades-long Russian intelligence operation to install an asset in the White House.

There is no coming back from this. If America lets Trump serve out this term without removing him, then the United States as a democratic republic is finished. The country won’t collapse overnight. There won’t be tanks in the streets. Instead, the destruction of democracy will happen in slow motion—buried under lawsuits, propaganda, and corruption so blatant that people stop caring.

If America lets this happen—if Trump is allowed to complete his mission—then Putin wins. The West crumbles. And the people who could have stopped it will look back, years from now, and wonder how they let it happen.

Good night, and good luck. Because if people don’t wake up, America is going to sleepwalk straight into its own funeral.

This perspective is definitely intense, and while there’s plenty of debate on Trump’s ties to Russia, the reality is that political fatigue has left many Americans numb to scandal. Whether or not Mussayev’s claims hold weight, the bigger issue is how desensitized the public has become to corruption and foreign influence. It’s not just about one leader—it’s about a system that allows this to happen. The question is, will people actually take action, or is outrage just another fleeting moment?

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Namaster:
Trump is already threatening Zelensky (and the world, really) with World War 3.

There is ZERO reason to try placating them.
Placation NEVER works with bullies. Only RETALIATION.

Give them that!

MORONS think the US would remain untouched in a World War.
Time to DISPEL their delusions.

Well said.

Even as Brutish as Putin is, he never casually mentions WW3 like the convicted Felon Trump does.

But then again what do you expect from someone who gets all his news from TV, social media and reality shows. The arrogant imp just likes playing to the gallery and unfortunately only a Europe united in purpose and voice can call Trump's bluff.

tctrills:
You are right. Ukraine must not stop fighting until Russia is destroyed.

This is what YOU chose to hear: I never implied this

You couldn't answery question as usual!!

TenQ:
This is what YOU chose to hear: I never implied this

You couldn't answery question as usual!!

You were going round in circles.
Let's be honest there are only 3 possible options here.
1. Russia gives up the captured land for peace

2. Ukraine accept to leave the lands occupied by Russia for peace

3. The war continues without end.

We know no 1 cannot happen so you choose, which you prefer. Be practical and honest to yourself.

tctrills:
You were going round in circles.
Let's be honest there are only 3 possible options here.
1. Russia gives up the captured land for peace

Ukraine already stated that it may be impossible to get back all their land from Putin

tctrills:
2. Ukraine accept to leave the lands occupied by Russia for peace

Same as 1. Zelensky already stated that months ago

tctrills:
3. The war continues without end.

Both Zelensky and Putin want the war to end. You can check their speeches online

tctrills:
We know no 1 cannot happen so you choose, which you prefer. Be practical and honest to yourself.

Ukraine is only asking for a Security Guarantee that this war will not start again after a few years after this negotiation.


Is this too much to ask?

God1000:
Vladimir Putin must be very happy seeing the west crumbling with the help of Donald trump.

The KGB agent at the white house is a total disgrace

Can he talk to Netanyahu like that?

America and Europe are separated by two oceans... The war in Europe how does it concern America America spending over 500b USD of tax paper money is really crazy if Europe want to continue with the war they should continue with the spending ... America say no they are tired of policing the world let everyone police her land... Europe should continue the war 🤣

Peace is ultimate...call it what ever you think, person pass you e pass you...Accept the deal or fight alone if you can

TenQ:
Ukraine already stated that it may be impossible to get back all their land from Putin



Same as 1. Zelensky already stated that months ago



Both Zelensky and Putin want the war to end. You can check their speeches online




Ukraine is only asking for a Security Guarantee that this war will not start again after a few years after this negotiation.


Is this too much to ask?

Explain what you mean by security guarantee?
Are you asking the US to promise to fight Russia on your behalf if Russia starts the war again?
Why will the US promise WW3 on behalf of Ukraine.
The biggest guarantee Zelensky can expect is the mineral deal agreement. If the US financial interest is involved, that is guarantee enough.
But the US promising to fight on behalf of Ukraine would even make Russia less likely to negotiate.

TenQ:
Like a broken record you just went off tangent to spew off your pre-recorded narration!

Where did you see Minsk agreement anywhere in my post?

Then, where did Russia ask for unconditional capitulation of Ukraine?

tctrills:
That's what they all say when they have nothing to offer.
I am not hear to be emotional or to please you.

lol according to you, you are not privy to details of the agreement documents between us and Ukraine. And you feel like jumping the argument and calling zelensky a comedian makes appear smarter

tctrills:
Explain what you mean by security guarantee?
Are you asking the US to promise to fight Russia on your behalf if Russia starts the war again?
Why will the US promise WW3 on behalf of Ukraine.
The biggest guarantee Zelensky can expect is the mineral deal agreement. If the US financial interest is involved, that is guarantee enough.
But the US promising to fight on behalf of Ukraine would even make Russia less likely to negotiate.

Yes . That and more. And if America isn't ready to play hardball, they get the f out and hand over the world to the east. You can't be smart by half. Now talk another thing

No middle ground here

tctrills:
It's clear that you and Zeelensky want this war to continue. No problem, Trump wants peace but you guys can go ahead without the arms and money of the US.
Zeelensky showed that his hate for Russia is greater than his love for his people and it's the support of people like you than strengthens him while his country continues to be a mess and his people keep on dying.
Ukraine's demography can't recover from this war in the next 70 years but you guys want the war to continue. Good luck.
People are trying to help him and save his county but you interpret it as bullying. No wahala.

Bro, I was wondering why people you quoted talked like this? The Ukraine chief sponsor said you should embrace peace , you're doing strong head. Maybe he has another god drumming his beat somewhere else. ZELINSKY was the arrogant one during the meeting.
His decision can only be justified if he can fight his war without US assistance. If not, Dey Play is his case!

3kay945:
Bro, I was wondering why people you quoted talked like this? The Ukraine chief sponsor said you should embrace peace , you're doing strong head. Maybe he has another god drumming his beat somewhere else. ZELINSKY was the arrogant one during the meeting.
His decision can only be justified if he can fight his war without US assistance. If not, Dey Play is his case!

I just tire my brother

Seunmuham:
Yes . That and more. And if America isn't ready to play hardball, they get the f out and hand over the world to the east. You can't be smart by half. Now talk another thing

No middle ground here

That's exactly what Trump said. He is not forcing Ukraine. Zelensky is free to return whenever he wants to. Let's see if any other country would give him guarantee. My bet is as good as yours.

God1000:
Vladimir Putin must be very happy seeing the west crumbling with the help of Donald trump.

The KGB agent at the white house is a total disgrace

Can he talk to Netanyahu like that?

Russia need Trump to be happy

okorogodwin4:
and your brother drug baron rulling the shithole country will never come to oval office to meet trump one on one

Another mad dog has entered the thread

No American president in history is as unhinged and unstable as the village idiot trump.
Normal Americans couldn't have preferred this psycho to a real level headed president.

Who would have thought the day would come America and Russia would frolicking in bed together. All thanks to this psycho of a man. America is pretty much ruined.

Krismas:
Then, where did Russia ask for unconditional capitulation of Ukraine?

Check Russia's conditions in 2022/23

Odin13:
The arrogance of trump was in full display yesterday

God bless Nigerians

Sometimes that's all it takes

tctrills:
Explain what you mean by security guarantee?
Are you asking the US to promise to fight Russia on your behalf if Russia starts the war again?
Why will the US promise WW3 on behalf of Ukraine.
The biggest guarantee Zelensky can expect is the mineral deal agreement. If the US financial interest is involved, that is guarantee enough.
But the US promising to fight on behalf of Ukraine would even make Russia less likely to negotiate.

What does Ukraine want
A Robust Security Guarantees that after the negotiations, Russia will not invade Ukraine again.

Security guarantees are too easy: Any one of these FOUR would have been sufficient
1. Ukraine accepted into NATO
2. Trigger to activate Ukraine joining NATO if and only if Russia attempts another invasion
3. Robust foreign Army in Ukraine for Peace keeping
4. Arming Ukraine to the Teeth with weapons as deterrents to invasion from Russia


Any one that is accepted will work

What Trump is suggesting is that after Ukraine's capitulation, from their remaining land not taken by Russia, they will still owe USA $500billion aside USA owning 50% of the proceeds of the rare earth minerals in Ukraine indefinitely with ZERO security guarantee


Zelensky said NO to these terms and he formulated a more balanced trade agreement and this was to be signed in the White House.

Unknown to Zelensky, Trump was not ready to sign the new deal and their plan was to insist on their initial plan and humiliate him if he refuses.




If you were the President of Ukraine, will you sign Trump's deal and what will your country gain from it?

God1000:
Vladimir Putin must be very happy seeing the west crumbling with the help of Donald trump.

The KGB agent at the white house is a total disgrace

Can he talk to Netanyahu like that?

Who is netayahnu?