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EXOUSIAng:
Another mad dog has entered the thread

shameless pig I know that you cant stomach the truth don't allow hatred and bitterness to kee you

Odin13:
The arrogance of trump was in full display yesterday

God bless Nigerians

Why do you always forget your senses when you want to comment on an issue?

Mathewrichard99:
Who born monkey wey no dey eat banana.... ....they can't do that nonsense with Netanyahu of Israel..... Never....

So what will happen if Trump talk to Netanyahu of Israel like that? He will fight US?

Namaster:
It's funny to see a WOMAN advocating for violence against an INNOCENT man.

But it's even funnier to see Russia and USA 69-ing each other in public.

Trump, Vance, a former Russian President and a USELESS journalist GANGED UP against Zelensky.

They tried to BULLY him BUT they FAILED!

Trump told him to "make a deal".
What deal?

People have been claiming that Trump is a COMPLETE idiot.
And Trump makes it real hard not ro believe them.

He talks about a peace deal. But the deal is basically giving Putin EVERYTHING he wants and allowing the US to PILLAGE the leftovers.

There is NOTHING for Ukraine in the deal.

The deal is just to allow Putin to hold on to Ukrainian territory without the fear of Ukraine fighting back.

Trump just wants Ukraine to stop fighting back.

Zelensky asked him what's in it for Ukraine?
Russia already VIOLATED a peace deal that was brokered in 2019.

Zelensky asked him what is the GUARANTEE that he wouldn't violate a new one?

The FELON couldn't provide an answer.

Putin ATTACKED Ukraine.
Now Putin, Trump, Vance and their lackeys BLAME Ukraine for it.

That's like INTENTIONALLY setting your house on fire and blaming the house for being flammable.

It's MADNESS!

Europe, and the rest of the world, need to STOP dealing with the US or according them ANY respect in international discourses.

I don't get why their leaders still feel the need to visit Trump. He's a CRIMINAL who's president because Americans FAILED.

NEVER give him legitimacy.

Europe once colonised MOST of the known world. They need to rediscover that greatness.

They NEED to stop being timid in the way they deal with MALICIOUS people.

They need to be MORE proactive. They should start SANCTIONING the US. And REDUCING the influence that the US exerts on international bodies.

There is NO country or a coalition of countries that would go to war with Europe and emerge UNSCATHED.

If US and Russia wants war, Europe (and the rest of the world) should give it to them.

Trump is already threatening Zelensky (and the world, really) with World War 3.

There is ZERO reason to try placating them.
Placation NEVER works with bullies. Only RETALIATION.

Give them that!

MORONS think the US would remain untouched in a World War.
Time to DISPEL their delusions.

Data is very cheap in Nigeria that is why you are typing this senseless epistle.

Go and wage war against Russia, stupid talk

Indeed. A beggar with an over bloated ego. Thought he had a choice and went out of control in the Oval office.

tctrills:
What do you want Trump to do for Zelensky?
What is Trump not doing right?
Zelensky was the White House guest yet he chose to attack the united states VP in front of the press. You expect Trump to take that from him?
I honestly don't know what Trump did wrong here.
Trump only wants peace.

He wants peace which everybody and anybody would want but not in a condescending manner. i watched the video. His VP should have let Trump do the talking. All the VP can do is speak to Trump or advice Trump as his second in command, not lash out at a sitting President. it is humiliating and no president should condone it. Would he address Putin that way? it is simple protocol. Obviously, everybody knows Zenlensky has the lower hand in all of this but it shouldn't be rubbed on his face. They have suffered the most and ending the war should be on Ukraine's terms.
However, Zenlensky needs to come to reality that he need to concede in other to win. this war has gone long enough and its no longer sustainable. They need to start rebuilding. this fight can be fought on another day.

hush15:
He wants peace which everybody and anybody would want but not in a condescending manner. i watched the video. His VP should have let Trump do the talking. All the VP can do is speak to Trump or advice Trump as his second in command, not lash out at a sitting President. it is humiliating and no president should condone it. Would he address Putin that way? it is simple protocol. Obviously, everybody knows Zenlensky has the lower hand in all of this but it shouldn't be rubbed on his face. They have suffered the most and ending the war should be on Ukraine's terms.
However, Zenlensky needs to come to reality that he need to concede in other to win. this war has gone long enough and its no longer sustainable. They need to start rebuilding. this fight can be fought on another day.

I saw the vid. Zelensky was the disrespectful one.

TenQ:
What does Ukraine want
A Robust Security Guarantees that after the negotiations, Russia will not invade Ukraine again.

Security guarantees are too easy: Any one of these FOUR would have been sufficient
1. Ukraine accepted into NATO
2. Trigger to activate Ukraine joining NATO if and only if Russia attempts another invasion
3. Robust foreign Army in Ukraine for Peace keeping
4. Arming Ukraine to the Teeth with weapons as deterrents to invasion from Russia


Any one that is accepted will work

What Trump is suggesting is that after Ukraine's capitulation, from their remaining land not taken by Russia, they will still owe USA $500billion aside USA owning 50% of the proceeds of the rare earth minerals in Ukraine indefinitely with ZERO security guarantee


Zelensky said NO to these terms and he formulated a more balanced trade agreement and this was to be signed in the White House.

Unknown to Zelensky, Trump was not ready to sign the new deal and their plan was to insist on their initial plan and humiliate him if he refuses.




If you were the President of Ukraine, will you sign Trump's deal and what will your country gain from it?

All the best to Zelensky, let's see what he gets.
Let's have this discussion in few weeks time after he has gotten all he wants.

tctrills:
I saw the vid. Zelensky was the disrespectful one.

Then, he should let Trump talk. Again, if it was Putin, would Vance have spoken? he wouldn't be on the table sef....

hush15:
Then, he should let Trump talk. Again, if it was Putin, would Vance have spoken? he wouldn't be on the table sef....

Putin is not as disrespectful as Zelensky. He is a real diplomat.
When Zelensky asked the VP if he had visited Ukraine to prove that the man was ignorant, that was going too far.

He went on to tell the VP that he was talking loud.
Remember, he was the guest.

[no option..Russia is the strongest country in the world.quote author=God1000 post=134347454]Vladimir Putin must be very happy seeing the west crumbling with the help of Donald trump.

The KGB agent at the white house is a total disgrace

Can he talk to Netanyahu like that?[/quote]

tctrills:
All the best to Zelensky, let's see what he gets.
Let's have this discussion in few weeks time after he has gotten all he wants.

I am sorry for US-EU relation!

Russia too is loosing big in this war!
Except Trump is ready to bail out Russia.

What I see is that EU will step up aid to Ukraine. It will not be enough, but it will help Ukraine to continue to bleed out Russia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3RFzX4AW4

Unfortunately, it could even escalate.

If North Korea can join the war without consequence, what stops UK or Germany joining this war?

If Ukraine is sacrificed, I bet it with you than in 14 months latest, China will invade Taiwan.

EU members will stand to watch Trump at this time.

Bye-bye also to NATO as a formidable force, thanks to Trump child-bully tactics!

TenQ:
I am sorry for US-EU relation!

Russia too is loosing big in this war!
Except Trump is ready to bail out Russia.

What I see is that EU will step up aid to Ukraine. It will not be enough, but it will help Ukraine to continue to bleed out Russia.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3RFzX4AW4

Unfortunately, it could even escalate.

If North Korea can join the war without consequence, what stops UK or Germany joining this war?

If Ukraine is sacrificed, I bet it with you than in 14 months latest, China will invade Taiwan.

EU members will stand to watch Trump at this time.

Bye-bye also to NATO as a formidable force, thanks to Trump child-bully tactics!

All these you wrote are not the point. In less than a month, we would see if your friend Zelensky has made the best decision for his county.
It will not take time to see the result and to know whether he is an arrogant fool or a wise leader. No need to argue endlessly.

tctrills:
All these you wrote are not the point. In less than a month, we would see if your friend Zelensky has made the best decision for his county.
It will not take time to see the result and to know whether he is an arrogant fool or a wise leader. No need to argue endlessly.

You said LESS than a month!

Will you call me then?

Then we can talk.


Russia is actually in a big shit too but you seem not to know because Russia is at least 8 time bigger in every respect than Ukraine

The tag team Trump and Vance display was an act of bullying

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8vVUs2MDjo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSRgMfEmdYo

tctrills:
Putin is not as disrespectful as Zelensky. He is a real diplomat.
When Zelensky asked the VP if he had visited Ukraine to prove that the man was ignorant, that was going too far.

He went on to tell the VP that he was talking loud.
Remember, he was the guest.

He is a guest, but he is also a Head of State...

hush15:
He is a guest, but he is also a Head of State...

And that gave him the right to be disrespectful?

TenQ:
You said LESS than a month!

Will you call me then?

Then we can talk.


Russia is actually in a big shit too but you seem not to know because Russia is at least 8 time bigger in every respect than Ukraine

You just said that Russia is many times bigger than Ukraine. They have all the advantages compared to Ukraine.

Let's see what happens in one month. Then we can restart this debate.

Was it a fight they went for? I wonder why idiot Trump televised the meeting. Russian trolls are bots. One autistic child broadcasted his opinion using thousands of bot accounts on Russian cyberspace. This is not news in any way.

tctrills:
You just said that Russia is many times bigger than Ukraine. They have all the advantages compared to Ukraine.

Let's see what happens in one month. Then we can restart this debate.

It means they need much more resources to survive. They don't have many Allies like Ukraine funding them.

Thus by 2026, you will see another soviet style economic collapse in Russia. They've been struggling to keep inflation under control because they are running a war economy where money is the main form of inducement for men joining the army.

It will take a minimum of ten years for Russia to recover from their destruction if USA does not bail them out

Namaster:
It's funny to see a WOMAN advocating for violence against an INNOCENT man.

But it's even funnier to see Russia and USA 69-ing each other in public.

Trump, Vance, a former Russian President and a USELESS journalist GANGED UP against Zelensky.

They tried to BULLY him BUT they FAILED!

Trump told him to "make a deal".
What deal?

People have been claiming that Trump is a COMPLETE idiot.
And Trump makes it real hard not ro believe them.

He talks about a peace deal. But the deal is basically giving Putin EVERYTHING he wants and allowing the US to PILLAGE the leftovers.

There is NOTHING for Ukraine in the deal.

The deal is just to allow Putin to hold on to Ukrainian territory without the fear of Ukraine fighting back.

Trump just wants Ukraine to stop fighting back.

Zelensky asked him what's in it for Ukraine?
Russia already VIOLATED a peace deal that was brokered in 2019.

Zelensky asked him what is the GUARANTEE that he wouldn't violate a new one?

The FELON couldn't provide an answer.

Putin ATTACKED Ukraine.
Now Putin, Trump, Vance and their lackeys BLAME Ukraine for it.

That's like INTENTIONALLY setting your house on fire and blaming the house for being flammable.

It's MADNESS!

Europe, and the rest of the world, need to STOP dealing with the US or according them ANY respect in international discourses.

I don't get why their leaders still feel the need to visit Trump. He's a CRIMINAL who's president because Americans FAILED.

NEVER give him legitimacy.

Europe once colonised MOST of the known world. They need to rediscover that greatness.

They NEED to stop being timid in the way they deal with MALICIOUS people.

They need to be MORE proactive. They should start SANCTIONING the US. And REDUCING the influence that the US exerts on international bodies.

There is NO country or a coalition of countries that would go to war with Europe and emerge UNSCATHED.

If US and Russia wants war, Europe (and the rest of the world) should give it to them.

Trump is already threatening Zelensky (and the world, really) with World War 3.

There is ZERO reason to try placating them.
Placation NEVER works with bullies. Only RETALIATION.

Give them that!

MORONS think the US would remain untouched in a World War.
Time to DISPEL their delusions.

God bless you...
For those who are blindly hailing Trump and that fellow du.mb JD Vance ...see what a sane person wrote in a Whatsapp group I belong:

"THE DAY DIPLOMACY DIED IN THE OVAL OFFICE
I was startled when I saw the video clip that emerged from the Oval Office yesterday. It was a scene that should never have played out in any nation’s highest diplomatic chamber, let alone in the hallowed halls of the United States presidency. The Oval Office, a space traditionally reserved for measured statecraft and dignified engagement between nations, became the setting for an extraordinary display of public humiliation an event that will go down as a dark moment in the annals of international diplomacy.

Watching that clip, I was reminded less of a formal diplomatic exchange than of the kind of public tirades one might expect from Portable, the notorious Nigerian musician infamous for berating his former collaborators, baby mamas, or anyone who crosses his path. Or worse, it felt like a street-corner altercation where a senior gang member bullies a subordinate into submission. This is not how states should relate. This is not how diplomacy is conducted"

maasoap:
I don't think so. He's simply saying America first. If he stops sending billions of dollars in terms of weapons and money to Ukraine now, many of you will understand what he's saying. Many USA citizens are not even happy with the govt using money that should go into health care for funding Ukraine war.
This is Biden war, not Trump war

its not free money bro! ukraine still has to pay anyhow ! but the manner and approach of the US undr trump is disgraceful! dude is like a hungry scavenger and thats dangerous!

ElevationD:
Sorry sir, those who have failed are Trump and Putin. A serious agreement held many years ago was serious violated by Putin/Russia and sadly supported by Trump. Do you want to know it?

Like the only thing Trump could say is Puttin respects him and kept insulting Joe Bidden.

Like in the session he called Bidden a stupid president and not a very smart guy.

Trump isnt even the fit for the job. If all he could say about past violation is respect. Who by the way respects Trump??

TenQ:
It means they need much more resources to survive. They don't have many Allies like Ukraine funding them.

Thus by 2026, you will see another soviet style economic collapse in Russia. They've been struggling to keep inflation under control because they are running a war economy where money is the main form of inducement for men joining the army.

It will take a minimum of ten years for Russia to recover from their destruction if USA does not bail them out

If the war ends today and all sanctions are removed, the Russian economy will immediately start bouncing back. Russia has very little foreign debt and don't forget that the west ceased about 600 billion dollars of Russian money.
When this war ends, Russia would go back to making money.

MERCHANDISER:
So the solution is to keep fighting and losing men from the both side?

What happens to getting along with Putin

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That doesn't mean Russia should illegally annex another country territory while Ukraine should fold his arms. Russians should leave Ukraine alone and go home after that they can negotiate.

rezy15:
Pawn how? Russia invaded Ukraine. What was he supposed to do?

When diplomacy ends, war Begins.

Russia no get level at all. Putin would soon be disgraced.

tctrills:
If the war ends today and all sanctions are removed, the Russian economy will immediately start bouncing back. Russia has very little foreign debt and don't forget that the west ceased about 600 billion dollars of Russian money.
When this war ends, Russia would go back to making money.

It is worse than that sir,
Russian is a net importing country and their manufacturing industry doesn't really exist. Once they exit the war economy, there would be a massive inflation and political unrests. Putin will be replaced. Russia has lost too much from this war

TenQ:
It is worse than that sir,
Russian is a net importing country and their manufacturing industry doesn't really exist. Once they exit the war economy, there would be a massive inflation and political unrests. Putin will be replaced. Russia has lost too much from this war

The US is a net importing country. That's not saying much. It's funny that economists predicted the fall of the Russian economy at the beginning of the war with all the sanctioned that hit them. So forgive me if I don't believe all these economy gloom stories. We have seen it and heard it all.

In fact, let's compare the Russian economy to that of Germany an economic power house.
While Russia's economy experienced an initial downturn in 2022, it has since demonstrated notable growth. In contrast, Germany's economy, after modest growth in 2022, has faced consecutive years of contraction.

So please don't read some cock and bull written by an economist because any true economist would tell you that the future can't be predicted by economists.

tctrills:
The US is a net importing country. That's not saying much. It's funny that economists predicted the fall of the Russian economy at the beginning of the war with all the sanctioned that hit them. So forgive me if I don't believe all these economy gloom stories. We have seen it and heard it all.

In fact, let's compare the Russian economy to that of Germany an economic power house.
While Russia's economy experienced an initial downturn in 2022, it has since demonstrated notable growth. In contrast, Germany's economy, after modest growth in 2022, has faced consecutive years of contraction.

So please don't read some cock and bull written by an economist because any true economist would tell you that the future can't be predicted by economists.

The true state of the economy is known from the consumer price index

By 2022; before the war CPI was 209.1 but now in 2025, it is 276.20 and this is the official Russian estimate

TenQ:
The true state of the economy is known from the consumer price index

By 2022; before the war CPI was 209.1 but now in 2025, it is 276.20 and this is the official Russian estimate

You can't just decide that the CPI measures the true state of an economy. There is more than one way to measure or define economy.
Did you know that inflation increases the CPI?
Let's not isolate one factor and make it the be it all. Again, I never said that the Russian economy was having it's best of time, I only said that you have no way of predicting what would be fall the economy after the war.
After the war, Russia could return to being one of the biggest energy exporters. Sanctions will be taking away. Investors will flood. No one can honestly predict, we can only guess.