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sonmvayina:
Ok
And you want to broaden your knowledge...ohhhkay

Janosky:
Did you see ghost in your Matthew1:18 screenshot?
Ghost has no place in the Bible not in your own screenshot evidence.
Oga receive sense..

Gabrielshow24:
Kindly answer the question.
Let's have a logical and rational exchange.

Using laws of logic to get to the basis.
Can you handle that?

Janosky:
Empty rants upandan because you know nothing!
What is the meaning of aggelos in your Bible?
John 10:34-36, Did Jesus Christ teach you himself is the son of God?
@ Revelation 1:1 & John 7:16, whose message did Jesus deliver to John?
Please allow your brain to function nau.

b]God sent his apostle,angel /messenger, prophet, Jesus Christ to do it.[/b]

Confused Trinitarian, angels are sons of God meaning they are also children of God.

Imperfect sinful Gotham with spiritual gen , this is the height of your self deceit.

Did you see ghost in your Matthew1:18 screenshot?
Ghost has no place in the Bible not in your own screenshot evidence.

Oga receive sense..

sonmvayina:
Logic?
Are those the only laws that exist in the universe?

GothamCities:
Where are the rants? Or is that a new word you just learnt?

I have already defined angels to you to mean messengers. Repeating what I have said to me again makes you very childish. You are yet to prove how someone would become an angel just because He was sent of God on a mission. There are many humans whom God has sent on assignments, are they angels too? This your logic is very faulty.

God sends His Word on assignments, therefore God's Word is an angel according to Jabisky Lol.

Everything we claim about Jesus are the things the Bible directly said about Him. The Bible said He is the Song of God. He is the Wird of God, and that this Word of God is God. Where did the Bible say that Jesus is an angel? You're the one who should get sense and infact, you must get it by force.

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We believe in all that, except that Jesus was never called an angel in the Bible. You should address the scriptures I gave you directly and do not start quoting other scriptures that you don't understand.

JESUS IS THE ONE COMING WITH CLOUDS. Yes or No? The One coming with clouds called Himself the Almighty. Yes or No? Simple!

You'll see while and call it black just because of doctrines stemming from a cult.


We all are children of God but before we became children of God,JESUS WAS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. No angel is a begotten son of God. Own your ears wide and listen.


Ignorant Jabisky, I am what the Scriptures say I am.

Galatians 3:27

"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ."

1 John 3:9!

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for HIS SEED remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

2 Peter 1:4!

"Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might BE PARTAKERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."

Should I give you more scriptures? Only God knows what they teach you in that cult of yours. You guys are too ignorant. You do not even know about the transformative work of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer.



I have told you the words are used interchangeably. Didn't you go to school?

Who told you that a ghost is a demon? Lol. Are you an illiterate so that I can actually come to your level during discussions.

'Ghost' was simply a spirit in old English but as English evolved, it has taken on some other meanings. So, contemporary English Bibles don't have the word Holy Ghost

Gabrielshow24:
what laws do men use to attain truth?

sonmvayina:
Define truth?

Gabrielshow24:
In the generic usage of the word, Jesus is an "angel" but as an identity "he is not".

But Janosky thinks he's wise and plays dishonestly, refusing to set a boundary and even when I finally got him to settle for "divine messenger"; he's yet to answer whether indeed Jesus as an identity, was a seraph, cherub or other 'ims that might exist in the kingdom which we aren't aware of.

Hence the word angel is actually quite vague.
And even Satan fits right in.

Don't bother with him, he is creating confusion to himself and infact commits fallacy of false equivocation!!!
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Truthseeker10:
So when people saw Jesus, they did not see God? Yes or no?

What bears the name Jesus, His body or His spirit?

GothamCities:
Where are the rants? Or is that a new word you just learnt?

I have already defined angels to you to mean messengers. Repeating what I have said to me again makes you very childish. You are yet to prove how someone would become an angel just because He was sent of God on a mission. There are many humans whom God has sent on assignments, are they angels too? This your logic is very faulty.

God sends His Word on assignments, therefore God's Word is an angel according to Jabisky Lol.

Everything we claim about Jesus are the things the Bible directly said about Him. The Bible said He is the Song of God. He is the Wird of God, and that this Word of God is God. Where did the Bible say that Jesus is an angel? You're the one who should get sense and infact, you must get it by force.

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We believe in all that, except that Jesus was never called an angel in the Bible. You should address the scriptures I gave you directly and do not start quoting other scriptures that you don't understand.

JESUS IS THE ONE COMING WITH CLOUDS. Yes or No? The One coming with clouds called Himself the Almighty. Yes or No? Simple!

You'll see while and call it black just because of doctrines stemming from a cult.


We all are children of God but before we became children of God,JESUS WAS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD. No angel is a begotten son of God. Own your ears wide and listen.


Ignorant Jabisky, I am what the Scriptures say I am.

Galatians 3:27

"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ."

1 John 3:9!

"Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for HIS SEED remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God."

2 Peter 1:4!

"Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might BE PARTAKERS OF THE DIVINE NATURE, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust."

Should I give you more scriptures? Only God knows what they teach you in that cult of yours. You guys are too ignorant. You do not even know about the transformative work of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer.



I have told you the words are used interchangeably. Didn't you go to school?

Who told you that a ghost is a demon? Lol. Are you an illiterate so that I can actually come to your level during discussions.

'Ghost' was simply a spirit in old English but as English evolved, it has taken on some other meanings. So, contemporary English Bibles don't have the word Holy Ghost

Janosky:
Gotham continue WAILING and deceiving yourself.

The screenshots evidence is enough proof of your folly and IBERIBEISM.
"A messenger generally (supernatural) messenger conveying news or behests from God to men"

MUMU WAILER, which criteria did Jesus not fulfill?
Is Jesus supernatural?
Is Jesus a messenger?
Is Jesus divine messenger?
Did Jesus convey news from God to men?

Your IBERIBEISM is very nauseating.

Gabrielshow24:
This fool has modified his definition🤧.

Even this is wrong!
Because men have oftentimes been called angels, were they divine?🤨

You will learn it the hard way!!!

Is God the Father a messenger if he wills to do something of his own will by himself?🤨

Foolishness is indeed bliss🤤!

Janosky:
Gothamcities foolishness is indeed bliss.

The MUMU WAILING WAILER lacks comprehension skills.
He can not understand Biblehub screenshots.
Him no know difference between human messenger (angel like John the Baptizer) & Jesus Christ (both a human and divine messenger) sent by Yahweh.


Galatians 4:14
"...... But you received me (Paul) as an angel of God, even as Jesus Christ."

Very empty headed Gab noise maker.

Janosky:
Gotham continue WAILING and deceiving yourself.

The screenshots evidence is enough proof of your folly and IBERIBEISM.
"A messenger generally (supernatural) messenger conveying news or behests from God to men"

MUMU WAILER, which criteria did Jesus not fulfill?
Is Jesus supernatural?
Is Jesus a messenger?
Is Jesus divine messenger?
Did Jesus convey news from God to men?

Your IBERIBEISM is very nauseating.

GothamCities:
My dear, where's the screenshot that says Jesus us an angel?

You said angel means messenger/son of God. Was that not what you said? I wad the one who corrected you and told you that angel means messenger, not son. You should at least first recognise your own ignorance and folly.

In your screenshot, tell us how that screenshot makes Jesus an angel.

You're just too illogical. You mean any one who is masculine, supernatural, divine and conveys a message from God is an angel. Wonders shall never end. Is it JW that did your head like this? And then, you even gave Him Angel Michael as His name. How did you come about that too? Or anyone who is masculine, divine, supernatural and conveys a message from God is Angel Michael? Hilarious!

Every Angel is a messenger but every massager is not an Angel. Angels are all divine but, not all who are divine are angels. Angels are masculine but not all who are masculine are angels. Angels are supernatural but not everything supernatural is an angel.

You neglected Scriptures and clung to screenshots that you don't understand.

Hey, talk and answer the below questions directly:


1. Jesus is the Resurrection and the Life. Is an angel your life or God Himself?

2. Jesus is the Bread of Life. The very source of Life itself. Is an angel your source of Life or God Himself?

3. Jesus is the Light of life. Is an angel the Light of life or God Himself. Angels are often referred to as angels of light. But Jesus is referred to as the Light Himself. Think about that.

4. Jesus is the One coming with clouds. The One coming with clouds declared Himself the Almighty. Is that not God or you want to lie against Him because of human doctrines?

5. The One who is coming said He is the First and the Last, and that He is coming quickly. Then, we here "Even so come, Lord Jesus. The Spirit and the Bride say come ," Who is the First and the Last? Jesus of course. Are your eyes still blind or they're now open? Answer me!

6. Hebrews 1:1-3 explained that Jesus is the Brightness of God's Glory and the Express Image of His Person Care to express how that fits angel Michael?

Revelation 1:1 (KJV)

"The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto His (Jesus) servants (Jesus' servants) things which must shortly come to pass; and He sent and signified it by His angel (Jesus' Angel) unto His servant John (Jesus' servant):"

Read that verse again and research it.

I want a direct answer to the above provided question by question. Do not detail into things I never asked you. I'll see it as a deliberate attempt to cover up your shame. JWs have no shame anyway, otherwise you won't come on a public forum bearing the tag of your organization and keep abusing people while discussing the Holy Word of God.

Janosky:
Empty shallow WAILING WAILER,go and view the Biblehub aggelos screenshot again and again until it sinks into your heart.
Also,angels are "the sons of God" @ Job 1:6 @ Job 2:1.@Job 38:7.
Angels and men are the sons of God @ Psalms 82:1,6.

Revelation 1:1 has already exposed your folly before you typed your first paragraph.
@ John 9:4 Jesus Christ proven that himself and the disciples (@Revelation 1:1) are servants of Yahweh.

Gotham is not interested in the Bible truth.
Abeg go get some sleep & get ready to tickle your ears in your pastorpreneurs business center.

Ken4Christ:
Jesus is the only begotten Son of God
Jesus is the first begotten from the death.
Jesus is worshiped by Angels and men. Angels don't receive worship.
Jesus is the full manifestation of God in the flesh.

Keep defending lies until Satan drags your soul to hell. You will weep and gnash your teeth.

Janosky:
Empty shallow WAILING WAILER,go and view the Biblehub aggelos screenshot again and again until it sinks into your heart.
Also,angels are "the sons of God" @ Job 1:6 @ Job 2:1.@Job 38:7.
Angels and men are the sons of God @ Psalms 82:1,6.

Revelation 1:1 has already exposed your folly before you typed your first paragraph.
@ John 9:4 Jesus Christ proven that himself and the disciples (@Revelation 1:1) are servants of Yahweh.

Gotham is not interested in the Bible truth.
Abeg go get some sleep & get ready to tickle your ears in your pastorpreneurs business center.

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree with the diagram below?

orisa37:
MUSLIMS AND JEHOVAH WITNESSES ARE WEIRD, UNTHINKING AND UNREASONABLE.

GothamCities:
Answer the questions one by one. You're very shameless and lacking in honour. Is Bibkehub superior to the Bible!


I have asked you questions that beg for retrospection an sincere response. Answer them one by one. Revelation 1:1 says Jesus directly gave His message to John through an angel. It never said Jesus didn't feature in the Book of Revelation. Jesus was the One who held the seven stars, walked among the candlesticks, had his hairs like wool and his feet like burning brass. He was the One who said "I come quickly. "

Hey, open your eyes otherwise you'll wait with gnashing of teeth if you fail to repent and embrace the true Jesus.

Ken4Christ:
Jesus is the only begotten Son of God
Jesus is the first begotten from the death.
Jesus is worshiped by Angels and men. Angels don't receive worship.
Jesus is the full manifestation of God in the flesh.

Keep defending lies until Satan drags your soul to hell. You will weep and gnash your teeth.

Register John 12:49, 50 & Psalms 103:20 into your heart .
Jesus did not receive any worship, Revelation 19:10 and Matthew 4:10 is his evidence.

LYING pastor wey no dey believe him Bible.

Janosky:
Pls shove your question into your toilet.

Revelation 1:1 is in your Bible but not in your heart.

Ken4Christ:
100%

GothamCities:
Answer the questions one by one. You're very shameless and lacking in honour. Is Bibkehub superior to the Bible!


I have asked you questions that beg for retrospection an sincere response. Answer them one by one. Revelation 1:1 says Jesus directly gave His message to John through an angel. It never said Jesus didn't feature in the Book of Revelation. Jesus was the One who held the seven stars, walked among the candlesticks, had his hairs like wool and his feet like burning brass. He was the One who said "I come quickly. "

Hey, open your eyes otherwise you'll wait with gnashing of teeth if you fail to repent and embrace the true Jesus.

Gabrielshow24:
Well, I appreciate your efforts in standing for Christ against those that have nothing but false equivocations to offer.

The same Janosky in some thread defined angel as (man or spirit) that can be sent by God on an errand.

A seemingly yet simple definition that's plagued with unintended implications!!!

In the literal sense of the word, Jesus is a messenger of God - which also happens to be the interpretation of the word "angel".

Based on identity, he is not.
Digging further by probing them into their definitions you can easily see, it's flawed.

It doesn't account for instances or cases where God The Father intends to do something of his own will and does it.

That technically makes God whether they allude is Jesus or not, a messenger - Angel🙃!!!

After all, he is a messenger of himself🤨!!!
You can ask them whether they agree🤔 then you will notice it's something they didn't accomodate for in their initial posits🥲.

This also reflects their own logic against them.
The other cases or extension of that shameless fool's definition, is that as a consequence, the whole of creation became angels🤔 - an unintended consequence from a shallow mind.

Hence from the elegant mind of Janosky, the spirit of trees, to name one, is an angel🤔.

Although he won't allude to it but if you ask him whether or not God could send anyone/anything/any spirit on an errand? You render his elusions void🤔!!!

It's an organization of short sighted and feeble minded individuals!!!

They are very sensitive to logic - not the sensitivity you are familiar🤣🤣🤣

Truthseeker10:
Explain John 1:18.

If Jesus is God, how can John 1:18 say that no one has seen God when people actually saw Jesus?

King James Bible
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Ken4Christ:
First, he was referring to the Father in this context.

Second, the Jews didn't know he was God in human flesh. Even when he told them, they attempted to stone him.

The three different persons in the Godhead have completely different form.

The Father is a Spirit. He doesn't have flesh and bones like Jesus does. You can only see his form in radiance of glory.

Jesus has a physical form that can be seen. But he has the very essence and nature of God. He was not created. Rather, all things were created by him and for him.

The Holy Spiri is completely invisible. But he is everywhere.

The three of them are wired together in purpose and actions.

Jesus does only what he sees his Father do. He doesn't have his personal or different agenda.

And the Holy Spirit does what he hears from Jesus. He doesn't have his personal agenda.

This is the mystery of Trinity.

Ken4Christ:
First, he was referring to the Father in this context.

Second, the Jews didn't know he was God in human flesh. Even when he told them, they attempted to stone him.

The three different persons in the Godhead have completely different form.

The Father is a Spirit. He doesn't have flesh and bones like Jesus does. You can only see his form in radiance of glory.

Jesus has a physical form that can be seen. But he has the very essence and nature of God. He was not created. Rather, all things were created by him and for him.

The Holy Spiri is completely invisible. But he is everywhere.

The three of them are wired together in purpose and actions.

Jesus does only what he sees his Father do. He doesn't have his personal or different agenda.

And the Holy Spirit does what he hears from Jesus. He doesn't have his personal agenda.

This is the mystery of Trinity.

Janosky:
Jesus Christ is the angel of Yahweh sent by Yahweh his Father.

Register John 12:49, 50 & Psalms 103:20 into your heart .
Jesus did not receive any worship, Revelation 19:10 and Matthew 4:10 is his evidence.

LYING pastor wey no dey believe him Bible.