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Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by perfectsusanoo(m): 2:10pm On Mar 02, 2025
WriteerNg:
Mumu Black slave.

Libya is safer today right?

What of Afghanistan? Iraq? Syria?

A swear
Those types make the already 'derelicted' image of blacks more subtle and unfulfilled.
Imagine the nonsensical praise of a group who coat their personal benefit with 'messiacal' fallacies.
Blacks are truly wired differently.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by miketayo(m): 2:10pm On Mar 02, 2025
MadPolitician:
America should be kicked out of the United Nations together with her war mongering European alllies, so that countries with cool heads can easily sit together and reach agreements on how to foster world peace and ensure human development across races and regions of the world.
You think that's what they do at UN?
EndSars proved how useless and corrupt UN is. See what's happening in Congo UN is not even talking about it. Unless it's some European country or an oil rich Arab country they won't bother.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by RodgersAkpafu: 2:11pm On Mar 02, 2025
Iweakbro:
True



What is the USA gaining from Ukraine? All the billions sent to him were used for what? The US owes $ 30 trillion giving out freebies, yet their citizens are over-taxed and don't get the best of everything.


The Europeans don't buy or use much of American goods, yet they export billions worth of Goods to the US. So, I ask again what is the US benefiting from being allied with leeches?

You and your fellow Islamic supporters are daft hypocrites—shifting goalposts at any slightest opportunity. You all were wailing about how the US was supporting Ukraine, and now, you are all shedding crocodile tears about the lack of further support?
where does "Islamic supporters" tag come from ?
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by igbosarejews(m): 2:11pm On Mar 02, 2025
benuejosh:
The day Elon Musk will talk about Biafra...
E never talk about your Benue people, Fulanis dey Kapi every minute and seconds
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Tolu2024(m): 2:11pm On Mar 02, 2025
OMBIIGA:
The reawakening has started! A Norwegian energy company refused an American worship calls at sea port for refuelling in protest on the treatment of the Ukrainian Leader.
LOL
😝
Not a threat and you know it . When Trump barks other world leaders listen 👂.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Ringstonermasks: 2:12pm On Mar 02, 2025
Namaster:
grin
Very good!

FOOLS claimed to support the Felon because voting for Harris would be voting for WW3.

Let's see how they like it when the POTBELLIED fuccckwads get CONSCRIPTED to fight by a notorious draft-dodger.
u claimed to be a wise man and yet ur third world Africa country is governed by a drug felon.

u are dumb and ignorant. Face ur shit hole country.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Magnetic010: 2:13pm On Mar 02, 2025
uncleck:
Election has consequences. Because you want to put "America first" you are unknowingly destroying America beyond repair. Let me break it down.

America is the biggest beneficiary of both NATO and UN against what Trump would have you all to believe. Ellon Musk is one of the individuals that have benefited the most from the existence of NATO and UN. Let me explain

The existence of NATO only serves the interest of America because it ensures that they have access to enormous quantities of raw materials needed to run American economy and also the leverage to assert their military power. In the absence of NATO, America will be isolated and it's economy crippled.

Same as the UN. UN gives American the power to intimidate, bully and coarse any country of their choice. In the absence of both NATO and UN, America will hardly be able to find market for their products and raw materials for their industries.

In a free market economy, America cannot defeat China in export of any form. American diplomacy, all things being equal, cannot win Chinese and Russians.

If America exits NATO and UN, it will be a win for China, Russia and the world at large because they will lose the influence to force dollars on anyone. Russia will expand politically. China's trade will grow exponentially. American dominance, especially in trade and commerce, will come to an abrupt end.

In the absence of NATO, America won't be able to threaten, even countries like Nigeria, because you need a military base in close proximity to attack a country. NATO currently gives America that leverage.

In conclusion, the conversation about exiting NATO and UN is childish because, to start with, both organizations serve only the interest of America.

If America exits NATO and UN, and Europe decide to strengthen EU, EU will enjoy better trade relation with Russia
America is indebt to the tone on 30trillion dollars, they are no where near china in the market today( if we are being honest).I don't think exiting NATO is such a bad idea, plus i personally think UN is a joke...Nobody really takes them serious even you know this
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Ringstonermasks: 2:13pm On Mar 02, 2025
benuejosh:
The day Elon Musk will talk about Biafra...
it Will never happen
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by CodeTemplar: 2:13pm On Mar 02, 2025
His south african herbalist must be a black racist.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by DaddyCoool(f): 2:13pm On Mar 02, 2025
madridguy:
48 laws of power is playing seriously here.

Majority of the European countries, relied too much on their friend " USA ". I think it is time rich countries like Germany go back to their drawing board.
Which 48 laws? Something that loser Robert Greene concocted in his study. He could have made it 40 or 60 laws but that won't be catchy.
You can also come up with your own 27 or 74 laws. Laws on the street are different. You can only pick them up on the streets!
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by givedemwotowoto(op): 2:13pm On Mar 02, 2025
WriteerNg:
And NATO invading Iraq brought more peace to Iraq?

Was Iraq, before NATO invasion, as bad as it is now? Even the war with Iran did not ruin them as much as NATO.

Can you visit Iraq today to enjoy that peace yoy keep talking about?

Iraq might never recover and not once have the US compensated them for it or even help them rebuild. China is the one bearing all the burden of rebuilding their country.

But Russia is the "rogue state". Don't throw around words carelessly if you don't understand it's true meaning.
On the issue of NATO invasion, let me use this analogy. If your house is in disarray and members of your family constantly go and cause trouble in your neighborhood, when the neighbors intervene, it won't be to bring peace to your house, it will be to stop your problems from affecting the rest of the neighborhood. It's your duty to put your house in order.

This is why sit-tight leaders are discouraged. If it escalates, other countries will come and intervene, and it doesn't usually end well. So get out of power if you lose popularity, like IBB did, like world leaders do.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by owagbeba: 2:14pm On Mar 02, 2025
happney65:
The World will be less safer. And rogue countries like Russia can wake up today and take over any country he likes.

There is a reason why there is NATO. The US and Western Europe coming from the effects of World War 1 and 2 swore never to allow mad people like Hilter behave anyhow again.

But it is unfortunate that in our life time,Another Hilter is almost here,together with the Russian stooge in the WH,the world just might be closer to World War 3

But some of you who just started reading the news yesterday,who are lovers of Dictators do not know which is which. You just follow the bandwagon here and there
Why do you think Russia is a rogue country?
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by viodemus: 2:16pm On Mar 02, 2025
Nna, na wa o.

The reliability of USA the great, is eroding in real time.


The world order have eroded.

How can the next administration put back this mess, because other nations will not trust the leadership of the USA again.


May God help the USA the great see the light again.

The igbo nation needs to strengthen, if not, many nations will just go to Nigeria (abokis and sw) as the leaders of Nigeria. Igbos need to make Israel see the value, including some same countries, and possibly the USA.
If not, the igbos will be caged in the continuous slavery we face in Nigeria, and it will be decades before anyone looks our way. All these major countries, will be looking inward. So, igbos need to be mature and ready to be free. Igbos grow up, and help your destiny, stop being a child or a mat, that others can step on at will.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by perfectsusanoo(m): 2:16pm On Mar 02, 2025
blaise26abj:
All of this na strategy . Trump is no fool . [b]He knows that US has been funding NATO and other alliances more than other countries that benefit more . [/b]He is threatening to leave to force them to do more . Just watch as European countries rush to preserve the alliance and give concessions . Most of thir economies are struggling . They will not want to burden themselves with running NATO without US leadership.

Can anyone here tell me why russia has been labelled a bad country ? Is it the conditioning we have received by watching too many American movies that portray them as evil ? Besides they have not done 1/10th of what US has done in the world in terms of wars and toppling governments . So can someone remind me why they are bad ?
Where and when did you learn the art of mind reading?? Of one so lofty sef, from the comfort of an African setting?(that is if you are comfortable).
And who has ever benefited more from a US investment than themselves?.
Make una take it easy o
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by hotseat: 2:17pm On Mar 02, 2025
Elon Musk, the de-facto President of the United States of America, has a protege in the person of a slowpoke called DT who he leads by the nose.


Elon Musk has continued to mislead DT without him realizing it.


This "America First" delirium would instead isolate the US in the political equation and reduce its sphere of influence.


After withdrawal from these organizations, what next?


Ok, one must not forget that DT now has new friends and allies like Russia, China, North Korea and Iran.



This is not America!




@hotseat
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by nightsaint(m): 2:18pm On Mar 02, 2025
3rd World War is looming. Students of history know what I'm talking about!
givedemwotowoto:
Source: https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-publicly-supports-call-084016959.html
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by 1144AK(m): 2:20pm On Mar 02, 2025
Somehow some people think they are smarter than the US government.. lol... You don't know what happens behind closed doors.. lol ... I even see some persons calling trump and Elon dumb, lol it's well o.... Take note, dese guys aren't your average Joe o.... Hmmm even China n Russia knw dis ...
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by femtex007(m): 2:21pm On Mar 02, 2025
madridguy:
48 laws of power is playing seriously here.

Majority of the European countries, relied too much on their friend " USA ". I think it is time rich countries like Germany go back to their drawing board.
Don't mind then. They authomatically turned trump to world president
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Tolu2024(m): 2:21pm On Mar 02, 2025
mfm04622:
In fact, Trump is a fool! A rich and powerful fool! Still a fool! I hope you will learn.
1. Nobody is funding NATO! The way NATO works is every country is expected to fund their country's defense so if there is need, they can contribute to the defense of NATO member in need. NATO has no budget on her own. It is a mutual defense pact. It means, you will support me when i need you and i will support you when you need me!
2. US get more from NATO than other members! NATO want members equipment to be operatable by other members. So, they prefer to buy similar equipment, which US is the major manufacturer. So US companies make lots of money from NATO members and US Govt collect taxes from that!
3. Even in the absence of NATO, Europe will continue to support Ukraine. They know what is at stake. They know they must stop Russia.
4. Russia is labelled a bad country because they continue to threaten their neighbours! Nobody is claiming the US is a saint. However, her neighbours don't fear her. Russia continues to attack and invade her neighbours, also continues to destabilize her neighbours using Russian speaking citizens of those countries. So, Russia deserves being labelled a bad neighbour!
If Ukraine is not a member of NATO why are they supporting Ukraine?

I don’t know if you were born when NATO invade Libya why can’t they do the same for Ukraine?
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by djon78(m): 2:21pm On Mar 02, 2025
madridguy:
48 laws of power is playing seriously here.

Majority of the European countries, relied too much on their friend " USA ". I think it is time rich countries like Germany go back to their drawing board.
Which drawing board

Europe relaxed and replied on the US for so long since the end of 2nd world war. The US is the king

All other Western Nations rely on the US for almost everything

Can they now begin to learn left hand in old age? Not possible

Was listening recently to one EU former finance minister and he was saying that Europe are solely at the mercy of the US

He said people talk down on Donald Trump but that Trump s advantage is that he talks and does

Whatever Donald Trump is doing now he said he will do them right before he one his first term. Then inexperience and being a rookie in his first tenure have his opponents advantage.

But his former opponents in the White House were not talk and do. They reneged on many promises to their allies. So how will you now except Americans not to believe a talk and do President?

The former EU finance minister noted that Europe fighting Russia was very senseless because Vladimir Putin from this 3 years war showed that he actually isn't that strong therefore the thought that Putin will later invade Poland, and other neighbors was wrong priority from EU leaders.

Europe depends on cheap gas from Russia for there energy, but can't access it now but now depends on the US gas which is 10 times more expensive than Russian gas.

EU leaders have no other option but to stop that senseless war, and find solution to there problems. Putin wasn't the problem. China's burgeoning economy is the main issue. And surprisingly China is rising much more in the modern world. Europe should focus on that.


As for we Africans we are still sleeping
We never even wake to the challenges facing this great continent.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by CasNova(m): 2:21pm On Mar 02, 2025
Amazing.

The world is witnessing a big shift in international politics.

I'm afraid US is going down...
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Kingbuhari(m): 2:23pm On Mar 02, 2025
USA must exist NATO and UN gbagam
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by membranus: 2:25pm On Mar 02, 2025
The Russian Asset is unabashedly exhibiting his evil hands, and fulfilling his master's plans to weaken and destroy the US and its Western allies. And Elon Musk, the NAZI sympathiser, is vociferously hyping him on on this evil path.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Tolu2024(m): 2:25pm On Mar 02, 2025
givedemwotowoto:
I said some but let me be more specific. Iraq was at war with Iran for many years, and were actively funding terr** organizations, same with Syria. Same with Afghanistan. They don’t want peace.
And you forgot USA support Iraq when they invaded Iran even with chemical weapons and the UN look the other way, I guess then they wer not supporting terror organizations how about afghans who USA supported to fight Soviet Union I guess there were the good guys then?

No offense you sound like an hypocrite
No vex .

Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by obinna58(m): 2:26pm On Mar 02, 2025
israelmao:
Elon and Trump are people who like challenging norms and widely held assumptions for positive change.
I swear these people are rational people with moral code and right to judgments
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Guestmale: 2:27pm On Mar 02, 2025
Zelensky made a mistake for campaigning for democrats but then Trump is carrying his revenge too far by trying to throw a whole nation under the bus because of an individual.

Anyway this is an opportunity for the European countries to come together and form a formidable military alliance to counter the bully of Russia
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by igbosarejews(m): 2:27pm On Mar 02, 2025
Tolu2024:
If Ukraine is not a member of NATO why are they supporting Ukraine?

I don’t know if you were born when NATO invade Libya why can’t they do the same for Ukraine?
We're waiting for Russia to invade Sweden and Finland that recently joined NATO, at least Finland border is the one of the closest to Russia.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by ednut1(m): 2:27pm On Mar 02, 2025
happney65:
The World will be less safer. And rogue countries like Russia can wake up today and take over any country he likes.

There is a reason why there is NATO. The US and Western Europe coming from the effects of World War 1 and 2 swore never to allow mad people like Hilter behave anyhow again.

But it is unfortunate that in our life time,Another Hilter is almost here,together with the Russian stooge in the WH,the world just might be closer to World War 3

But some of you who just started reading the news yesterday,who are lovers of Dictators do not know which is which. You just follow the bandwagon here and there
but usa and nato can invade iraq, Afghanistan and Libya?
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by BreconHills(m): 2:27pm On Mar 02, 2025
Iweakbro:
True



What is the USA gaining from Ukraine? All the billions sent to him were used for what? The US owes $ 30 trillion giving out freebies, yet their citizens are over-taxed and don't get the best of everything.


The Europeans don't buy or use much of American goods, yet they export billions worth of Goods to the US. So, I ask again what is the US benefiting from being allied with leeches?

You and your fellow Islamic supporters are daft hypocrites—shifting goalposts at any slightest opportunity. You all were wailing about how the US was supporting Ukraine, and now, you are all shedding crocodile tears about the lack of further support?



You just showed your lack of basic education Mr. Head slammer. When you print so much money, inflation ensues...

The US has been the biggest contributor to NATO, the UN, and other agencies like URNWA and USAID. Other European countries are growing their economy with little to no pressure, yet the US places pressure on its taxpayers.

What does the US get in exchange? Entitled Islamists and Europeans who do little for the. If you look at history, different styles of government have been applied—and they either work or fail. So let's sit out Trump's style.

Calling him Putin's lapdog shows you're a dumb Muslim. What is the point of supporting Zelensky? When he can't use US weapons beyond kurks and Ukraine? His defeat will surely come, and that would mean the defeat of the US(if they keep supporting him). Trump is playing one of the smartest games here—alienating the US from the Impending defeat while also securing a mouth-starting minerals deal.
Another Russian poodle speaks 🐕‍🦺
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Saga16: 2:28pm On Mar 02, 2025
Iweakbro:
True



What is the USA gaining from Ukraine? All the billions sent to him were used for what? The US owes $ 30 trillion giving out freebies, yet their citizens are over-taxed and don't get the best of everything.


The Europeans don't buy or use much of American goods, yet they export billions worth of Goods to the US. So, I ask again what is the US benefiting from being allied with leeches?

You and your fellow Islamic supporters are daft hypocrites—shifting goalposts at any slightest opportunity. You all were wailing about how the US was supporting Ukraine, and now, you are all shedding crocodile tears about the lack of further support?



You just showed your lack of basic education Mr. Head slammer. When you print so much money, inflation ensues...

The US has been the biggest contributor to NATO, the UN, and other agencies like URNWA and USAID. Other European countries are growing their economy with little to no pressure, yet the US places pressure on its taxpayers.

What does the US get in exchange? Entitled Islamists and Europeans who do little for the. If you look at history, different styles of government have been applied—and they either work or fail. So let's sit out Trump's style.

Calling him Putin's lapdog shows you're a dumb Muslim. What is the point of supporting Zelensky? When he can't use US weapons beyond kurks and Ukraine? His defeat will surely come, and that would mean the defeat of the US(if they keep supporting him). Trump is playing one of the smartest games here—alienating the US from the Impending defeat while also securing a mouth-starting minerals deal.
The way many of you speak about 30 billion dollars.
It wasn't cash.
It was old stockpile.
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by djon78(m): 2:28pm On Mar 02, 2025
1144AK:
Somehow some people think they are smarter than the US government.. lol... You don't know what happens behind closed doors.. lol ... I even see some persons calling trump and Elon dumb, lol it's well o.... Take note, dese guys aren't your average Joe o.... Hmmm even China n Russia knw dis ...
Don't mind them. They think Donald Trump is playing. He really came prepared. What Trump is doing in America will be hard for the liberals to uproot the things he's been planting.


Many people think Donald Trump is the real threat. But VP Vance, Secretary of State Mike Rubio and lots of Trump's kitchen cabinet like Elon musk are the main real McCoys.

When Trump finish it will take the liberals getting someone out of this world to change the tide. The liberals actually underestimated Donald Trump.

Until then
Re: Elon Musk Publicly Supports Call For US To Exit NATO, UN by Tolu2024(m): 2:29pm On Mar 02, 2025
igbosarejews:
We're waiting for Russia to invade Sweden and Finland that recently joined NATO, at least Finland border is the one of the closest to Russia.
All the time Russia been invaded was through Ukraine that why Ukraine will never join NATO and the war mongers in EU it too , they just wanted to try and they have failed 😞 .
Even nato can not invade Russia from Finland.
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