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Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Ken4Christ: 8:25pm On Mar 07, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Did John say that no man has seen the "Father" or that no man has seen "God"?
How could they know the difference? They were as ignorant as you until Jesus came. Even when Jesus tried to unveil the truth to them, they didn't believe him till this day. Rather, they killed him. But the time will come when they will believe. This will happen after the Antichrist show them 'shege'.
Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Ken4Christ: 8:26pm On Mar 07, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Prepare for a stupid 🤕 question from him.

That's his trademark 🤧!!!
I understand.
Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Truthseeker10: 8:51pm On Mar 07, 2025
Ken4Christ:
How could they know the difference? They were as ignorant as you until Jesus came. Even when Jesus tried to unveil the truth to them, they didn't believe him till this day. Rather, they killed him. But the time will come when they will believe. This will happen after the Antichrist show them 'shege'.
This is the question I asked you below.

Did John say that no man has seen the "Father" or that no man has seen "God"?

Did John say no unbelievers has seen God or that no man including himself as seen God in John 1:18?
Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Ken4Christ: 11:57pm On Mar 07, 2025
Truthseeker10:
This is the question I asked you below.

Did John say that no man has seen the "Father" or that no man has seen "God"?

Did John say no unbelievers has seen God or that no man including himself as seen God in John 1:18?
He said no man has seen God. And in this context, he is referring to the Father.

If you want to use the writing of John to debunk the fact that Jesus is God, why not site other references where John explicitly said that Jesus is God? An example is John 1:1.

In other to get a clear picture of any doctrine, look at every single reference that addresses that topic. Don't look for the one that appears to agree with your pre conceived opinion and ignore many more others that says otherwise.

There are overwhelming evidence of Scripture that affirm that Jesus is indeed God. But he is not the Father.

How could a mortal man send the Holy Spirit to earth? And we know that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God.

He even said that the Holy Spirit will glorify Him.

We don't have issue believing that the Holy Spirit is God. But the Holy Spirit does nothing apart from what he hears from Jesus.

Will a divine being receive direction from a man?
Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:03am On Mar 08, 2025
Truthseeker10:
This is the question I asked you below.
Did John say that no man has seen the "Father" or that no man has seen "God"?
Did John say no unbelievers has seen God or that no man including himself as seen God in John 1:18?
You don't understand when John said "no man has seen God" he was talking about one of the Trinitarian Godheads so people have seen the other two Godheads it's only one of the Godheads that has not been seen by anyone.
Mystery solved.
Please clap for me! grin
Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Truthseeker10: 7:07am On Mar 08, 2025
Ken4Christ:
He said no man has seen God. And in this context, he is referring to the Father.

If you want to use the writing of John to debunk the fact that Jesus is God, why not site other references where John explicitly said that Jesus is God? An example is John 1:1.

In other to get a clear picture of any doctrine, look at every single reference that addresses that topic. Don't look for the one that appears to agree with your pre conceived opinion and ignore many more others that says otherwise.

There are overwhelming evidence of Scripture that affirm that Jesus is indeed God. But he is not the Father.

How could a mortal man send the Holy Spirit to earth? And we know that the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God.

He even said that the Holy Spirit will glorify Him.

We don't have issue believing that the Holy Spirit is God. But the Holy Spirit does nothing apart from what he hears from Jesus.

Will a divine being receive direction from a man?
From the diagram below that you claim to agree with, is God the father or God is "Father, son and holy spirit" simultaneously?

Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Ken4Christ: 8:53pm On Mar 08, 2025
Truthseeker10:
From the diagram below that you claim to agree with, is God the father or God is "Father, son and holy spirit" simultaneously?
The natural mind cannot grasp certain truth. Put in a simpler way:

There is one God who is the Father, one Lord who is Jesus and the visible manifestation of the invisible God and one Spirit.

Let's come to even the nature of man. You sleep on your bed but your soul is somewhere else in another realm. But it's the same person.

What about witches who are in their room but are elsewhere carrying out harvoc. This is mortal man talk more of God.

God is in heaven and you can't see him. If you want to see him, look at Jesus.
Re: Jesus Clearly Declared His Origin - A Shocker For Muslims And Jehovah Witnesses by Truthseeker10:
Ken4Christ:
The natural mind cannot grasp certain truth. Put in a simpler way:

There is one God who is the Father, one Lord who is Jesus and the visible manifestation of the invisible God and one Spirit.

Let's come to even the nature of man. You sleep on your bed but your soul is somewhere else in another realm. But it's the same person.

What about witches who are in their room but are elsewhere carrying out harvoc. This is mortal man talk more of God.

God is in heaven and you can't see him. If you want to see him, look at Jesus.
You simply dodged the question.

From the diagram below that you claim to agree with, is God the father or God is "Father, son and holy spirit" simultaneously?

Or don't you agree with the diagram below anymore?

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