₦airaland Forum

For the past weeks now, we can attest that Electricity supply has been erratic.

Band A users don't get the usual 20 hrs light again,band B sef, na 2 hrs per day .

What pains me is that we were told that the Band separation has improved the light situation, and APC agents were celebrating during the rainy and harmattan season.

Are we saying all the subsidies stopped from electricity, is not yet enough to improve on our power generation and maybe preventive maintenance of our power grid?

Please we can't continue like this. No light, Heat everywhere, everyday buying of fuel at 900 per litre.

APC ,how long do we suffer inside this heat, every year, every time?

Buy solar and free your mind.

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Let's be honest with ourselves. We can't get stable power until we are generating at least 33000 mw.

The problem is Nigerians are not ready to pay market price for power...so no revenue and poor investment results. The corruption and so forth are by products.

Even the band a thing was government finally agreeing that some people had to pay market price or the discos would financially collapse

Anyway, all the issues start with lack of market reflective tarrifs.

That is why we have been having issues with power for centuries. When you need 10 trillion naira annual investment, and profits are just one trillion and debt is 1.7 trillion and apc government is doing socialist style price controls because they don't want to lose power. In essence continuing the bad policies of pdp

nairalanda1:
Let's be honest with ourselves. We can't get stable power until we are generating at least 33000 mw.

The problem is Nigerians are not ready to pay market price for power...so no revenue and poor investment results. The corruption and so forth are by products.

Even the band a thing was government finally agreeing that some people had to pay market price or the discos would financially collapse

Anyway, all the issues start with lack of market reflective tarrifs.

That is why we have been having issues with power for centuries. When you need 10 trillion naira annual investment, and profits are just one trillion and debt is 1.7 trillion and apc government is doing socialist style price controls because they don't want to lose power. In essence continuing the bad policies of pdp

How much Is the earning power of the people that you want to keep increasing electricity costs?

Jokerman:
How much Is the earning power of the people that you want to keep increasing electricity costs?

If you were a businessman, would you set your prices after asking what people earn, or would you set your prices based on how much you need to pay the wholesaler, manufacturer, transporter, and what you need to pay your staff, as well as getting extra supplies, and still having something left for you?

The problem with your question is that you know I am right, and you are using it to run away from an answer you do not like.

When I buy things from the market or wherever, the person selling them does not ask how much I am earning so that if I was earning say N2000 a month, he would cut the price of the large tin of milk that he was selling at N25000 to N23 so that I can afford it. If he did that, he would run out of money and have no business.

That's why your question is not only riddiculous, but irrelevant to the discussion. At the end, the power sector is privatised. And even if it is not, it still has to buy stuff from private entities, and as such has to have sufficent money to pay for them, therefore, it has to make a profit.


Electricty costs money. To expand electricity to every nook and crany of Nigeria would require investment of N14 TRILLION Naira at least, annually for at most ten years. No one is going to invest if they cannot get return on investment.

Better face reality. This has nothing to do with oppressing the poor, supporting or excusing any useless government past and present. Any business needs a profit to make money to make improvements and guarantee better service.

Or maybe you want the government to take massive loans every year, like the USSR was doing, to guarantee good services, until the debt came to bite them well well, nay savage them.

Na outside I dey sleep now oooo make heat no come kpai me for inside house o

nairalanda1:
If you were a businessman, would you set your prices after asking what people earn, or would you set your prices based on how much you need to pay the wholesaler, manufacturer, transporter, and what you need to pay your staff, as well as getting extra supplies, and still having something left for you?

The problem with your question is that you know I am right, and you are using it to run away from an answer you do not like.

Electricty costs money. To expand electricity to every nook and crany of Nigeria would require investment of N14 TRILLION Naira at least, annually for at most ten years. No one is going to invest if they cannot get return on investment.

Better face reality. This has nothing to do with oppressing the poor, supporting or excusing any useless government past and present. Any business needs a profit to make money to make improvements and guarantee better service.

This means darkness continues then??

Jokerman:
This means darkness continues then??

Oga, you are acting as if the people that make componets for electricity would supply it for free. That's not how it works. No one does anything for free.

We don't make most of the components for power generation here , and we need to get generation up to 88000 mw to have light 24/7. That won't come cheap.

Either we pay for power at market price, or we stop grumbling and accept our fate, or we take massive loans of 20 billion dollars yearly, and pay for it with our blood in the years to come.

It does not matter who is in charge, even if someone you like comes to power tomorrow, the fact will be the same. Everything needs to be paid for.

Stop being immature. This is not about the side you support, or the useless government we have in power. ELectricity costs money. We better face that reality.

And yes, you don't want to accept the truth, that's why you are here engaging in rhetorics.

nairalanda1:
Oga, you are acting as if the people that make componets for electricity would supply it for free. That's not how it works. No one does anything for free.

We don't make most of the components for power generation here , and we need to get generation up to 88000 mw to have light 24/7. That won't come cheap.

Either we pay for power at market price, or we stop grumbling and accept our fate, or we take massive loans of 20 billion dollars yearly, and pay for it with our blood in the years to come.

It does not matter who is in charge, even if someone you like comes to power tomorrow, the fact will be the same. Everything needs to be paid for.

Stop being immature. This is not about the side you support, or the useless government we have in power. ELectricity costs money. We better face that reality.

And yes, you don't want to accept the truth, that's why you are here engaging in rhetorics.

Yes, we know Electricity cost money.

Since, we cannot finance the costs of all these, so do we continue in darkness, or continue taxing the poor people, or confiscate the properties of theiving politicians??

nairalanda1:
The problem is Nigerians are not ready to pay market price for power...so no revenue and poor investment results. The corruption and so forth are by products.

The problem is DISCOS who have refused to give every customer prepaid metre.

Nigerians will pay the market price if they have prepaid metre.

jmoore:
The problem is DISCOS who have refused to give every customer prepaid metre.

Nigerians will pay the market price if they have prepaid metre.

Depends.

1. There is a big problem of people bypassing meters.

2. Many don't want to pay band A tarrifs...which are market reflective.

Jokerman:
Yes, we know Electricity cost money.

Since, we cannot finance the costs of all these, so do we continue in darkness, or continue taxing the poor people, or confiscate the properties of theiving politicians??

We can consificate the properties of thieving politicans, but it takes time and it won't yield enough to pay for losses (the legal process takes time).

Your other points are just rhetorics. At the end , power does cost money. Either we pay for 88000mw, or we keep in darkness. If it makes you think I am an oppressor, so be it, but you won't do work you have not been paid for.

nairalanda1:
Depends.

1. There is a big problem of people bypassing meters.

2. Many don't want to pay band A tarrifs...which are market reflective.

1. Bypassed metres can be detected.. That's not an excuse. If the DISCOS are ready to catch energy thieves, they will.

2. Anyone on BAND A will pay the tariff. What they want and what they do are completely different.

I don't want to buy petrol at 1,000 naira a litre but I am still buying it.

Helinues, SeunMsg, Yarimo, etc, Un govt wan kill us with heat...

What's the problem?