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Intriguing question.

The Sabbath was one of 10 commandments The Lord gave the Israelites through Moses (Exodus 20).

The Sabbath denoted rest from work on the seventh day; many believe the seventh day is Saturday (I am not contesting this belief).

Even under the dispensation of The Law (Moses), the Priests were exempted from the Sabbath (Matthew 12:5).

Moreover, the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets, he is under the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2). The law and the prophets was until John The Baptist (Matthew 11:13).

Now, if even priests under the old covenants profaned the Sabbath and yet were blameless according to Matthew (12:5) how much more blameless is the born-again in regard to the Sabbath, he being a priest and a king in Christ (Revelations 1:6; Revelations 5:10).

The Sabbath was a typology of rest in Christ; to the born-again everyday is a Sabbath - rest in Christ. The born again is free to work and do all things all day including the seventh day provided these activities/works are not sinful.

The Lord Jesus himself who is our Standard and Lord of the Sabbath worked on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:9-15).

The Sabbath was a shadow of the real substance which is Christ Jesus (Colossians 2:17) - Now we have Christ Jesus (the substance and reality), why do you want to hold on to a shadow?

Why do you keep gazing at the photo of your spouse when your spouse is right with you?

Do you engage in any activity/work at all on Saturdays as a sabbatarian ?

Matthew 12:11
Then He (Jesus) said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?

I come in peace

bingbagbo:
Intriguing question.

The Sabbath was one of 10 commandments The Lord gave the Israelites through Moses (Exodus 20).

The Sabbath denoted rest from work on the seventh day; many believe the seventh day is Saturday (I am not contesting this belief).

Even under the dispensation of The Law (Moses), the Priests were exempted from the Sabbath (Matthew 12:5).

Moreover, the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets, he is under the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2). The law and the prophets was until John The Baptist (Matthew 11:13).

Now, if even priests under the old covenants profaned the Sabbath and yet were blameless according to Matthew (12:5) how much more blameless is the born-again in regard to the Sabbath, he being a priest and a king in Christ (Revelations 1:6; Revelations 5:10).

The Sabbath was a typology of rest in Christ; to the born-again everyday is a Sabbath - rest in Christ. The born again is free to work and do all things all day including the seventh day provided these activities/works are not sinful.

The Lord Jesus himself who is our Standard and Lord of the Sabbath worked on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:9-15).

The Sabbath was a shadow of the real substance which is Christ Jesus (Colossians 2:17) - Now we have Christ Jesus (the substance and reality), why do you want to hold on to a shadow?

Why do you keep gazing at the photo of your spouse when your spouse is right with you?

Do you engage in any activity/work at all on Saturdays as a sabbatarian ?

Matthew 12:11
Then He (Jesus) said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?

I come in peace

I will bite you oo. Why are you Lying against The LORD?

Since when did talking a walk and plucking fruits to eat constitute working?

And did you not read that Cbrist, The LORD Said "if you love me keep my commandments"?

And go and look how many times God Said keep my Sabbaths?

Even in the new testament the disciples still obeyed it. Luke 23:56

bingbagbo:
Intriguing question.

The Sabbath was one of 10 commandments The Lord gave the Israelites through Moses (Exodus 20).

The Sabbath denoted rest from work on the seventh day; many believe the seventh day is Saturday (I am not contesting this belief).

Even under the dispensation of The Law (Moses), the Priests were exempted from the Sabbath (Matthew 12:5).

Moreover, the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets, he is under the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2). The law and the prophets was until John The Baptist (Matthew 11:13).

Now, if even priests under the old covenants profaned the Sabbath and yet were blameless according to Matthew (12:5) how much more blameless is the born-again in regard to the Sabbath, he being a priest and a king in Christ (Revelations 1:6; Revelations 5:10).

The Sabbath was a typology of rest in Christ; to the born-again everyday is a Sabbath - rest in Christ. The born again is free to work and do all things all day including the seventh day provided these activities/works are not sinful.

The Lord Jesus himself who is our Standard and Lord of the Sabbath worked on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:9-15).

The Sabbath was a shadow of the real substance which is Christ Jesus (Colossians 2:17) - Now we have Christ Jesus (the substance and reality), why do you want to hold on to a shadow?

Why do you keep gazing at the photo of your spouse when your spouse is right with you?

Do you engage in any activity/work at all on Saturdays as a sabbatarian ?

Matthew 12:11
Then He (Jesus) said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?

I come in peace

Let me bold-face my position first.

Yes, Christians are supposed to observe the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a sign between God and all human creatures; it is not like the covenant God made with Abraham that was ratified between God and ancient Israel. And yes, the Sabbath is a Saturday.

Unfortunately, we do not observe the Sabbath because we are a product of bad history; a product of human error and mischief. FYI, I am neither a member of Seventh Day Adventist nor a member of any other Christian sect that are strict Sabbatharians (don't know if I spelled that correctly) but I think they are dead right on this subject of Sabbath observance.

Yes, while the born again is not under the dispensation of the law and the prophets; yet, it seems the born again, like the non born again, is not allowed to kill, murder, or commit other vices which are the foundation of the laws God gave Moses. How do we harmonize this?

Flip your bible to Exodus 20 and tell me if there is any, or just one of the Ten commandments that the born again Christian is permitted to absolve himself of, if there is none, so why should Sabbath observance be done with, or is it not one of the Ten Commandments?

Priests under the old covenant did not profane the Sabbath. They were doing God's work which is actually what the Sabbath denotes, so if Christ was healing on the Sabbath, he wasn't profaning the Sabbath because he is doing God's work.

If God said, "Hey, you, come here. Stay here and do so-and-so every Saturday," and says to another, "Hey, you come here. Stay there and do so-and-so every Saturday," would you argue that either or both of us have profaned the Sabbath?

NO!

Neither the priest on duty in the temple nor the citizens who would not even light a fire in their homes, but spend the duration memorizing scriptures have violated the Sabbath.

We are instructed not to work or even light a match on the Sabbath because work is a great inhibitor to devotion to God. If God had only instructed us to remember him on the Sabbath day without express prohibition against work, the Sabbath would lose its relevance. But if you have to work for God on the Sabbath, then you have not profaned the Sabbath. That is what they failed to understand. Your reasons consequently falls apart.

Let me tell you what the Sabbath is in a nutshell. God is saying I creating everything in six literal days, so you all should celebrate and remember me the next day.

The Sabbath is not a shadow of the real substance. It is not a shadow at all. What you are doing is what I'd call false dichotomy. The Sabbath is not a shadow. A day God pronounced as sacred before there was any religion is not comparable to God's redemptive plan for the human race in Christ Jesus. Our problems as Christians is that we want to do away with everything hitherto because Christ has saved us from our sins and God has accepted him as sacrifice. I'd remind you that the Sabbath was made sacred before even man sinned.

We were never at any point instructed to do away with the Sabbath. I think early Christians, all of them, observed the Sabbath. I have not studied this subject, but I can confidently tell you that God never abrogates his laws.

Hey, I want you to do so-and-so but because Christ had come, you can just pass


NO!!!

StillDtruth:
I will bite you oo. Why are you Lying against The LORD?

Since when did talking a walk and plucking fruits to eat constitute working?

And did you not read that Cbrist, The LORD Said "if you love me keep my commandments"?

And go and look how many times God Said keep my Sabbaths?

Even in the new testament the disciples still obeyed it. Luke 23:56

I come in peace my brother. My post addresses your queries please. Thank you.

Baldwretch:
Let me bold-face my position first.

Yes, Christians are supposed to observe the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a sign between God and all human creatures; it is not like the covenant God made with Abraham that was ratified between God and ancient Israel. And yes, the Sabbath is a Saturday.

Unfortunately, we do not observe the Sabbath because we are a product of bad history; a product of human error and mischief. FYI, I am neither a member of Seventh Day Adventist nor a member of any other Christian sect that are strict Sabbatharians (don't know if I spelled that correctly) but I think they are dead right on this subject of Sabbath observance.

Yes, while the born again is not under the dispensation of the law and the prophets; yet, it seems the born again, like the non born again, is not allowed to kill, murder, or commit other vices which are the foundation of the laws God gave Moses. How do we harmonize this?

Flip your bible to Exodus 20 and tell me if there is any, or just one of the Ten commandments that the born again Christian is permitted to absolve himself of, if there is none, so why should Sabbath observance be done with, or is it not one of the Ten Commandments?

Priests under the old covenant did not profane the Sabbath. They were doing God's work which is actually what the Sabbath denotes, so if Christ was healing on the Sabbath, he wasn't profaning the Sabbath because he is doing God's work.

If God said, "Hey, you, come here. Stay here and do so-and-so every Saturday," and says to another, "Hey, you come here. Stay there and do so-and-so every Saturday," would you argue that either or both of us have profaned the Sabbath?

NO!

Neither the priest on duty in the temple nor the citizens who would not even light a fire in their homes, but spend the duration memorizing scriptures have violated the Sabbath.

We are instructed not to work or even light a match on the Sabbath because work is a great inhibitor to devotion to God. If God had only instructed us to remember him on the Sabbath day without express prohibition against work, the Sabbath would lose its relevance. But if you have to work for God on the Sabbath, then you have not profaned the Sabbath. That is what they failed to understand. Your reasons consequently falls apart.

Let me tell you what the Sabbath is in a nutshell. God is saying I creating everything in six literal days, so you all should celebrate and remember me the next day.

The Sabbath is not a shadow of the real substance. It is not a shadow at all. What you are doing is what I'd call false dichotomy. The Sabbath is not a shadow. A day God pronounced as sacred before there was any religion is not comparable to God's redemptive plan for the human race in Christ Jesus. Our problems as Christians is that we want to do away with everything hitherto because Christ has saved us from our sins and God has accepted him as sacrifice. I'd remind you that the Sabbath was made sacred before even man sinned.

We were never at any point instructed to do away with the Sabbath. I think early Christians, all of them, observed the Sabbath. I have not studied this subject, but I can confidently tell you that God never abrogates his laws.

Hey, I want you to do so-and-so but because Christ had come, you can just pass


NO!!!

There are many errors in your rebuttals, my post addresses them. But the moment I read the bolded, I knew you do not know what you are saying. Kindly check the following as to whether or the Sabbath was a shadow:

Colossians 2:16-17
[16]So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,
[17] which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

Further:

Christ Is The End of The Law (Romans 10:4)

bingbagbo:
I come in peace my brother. My post addresses your queries please. Thank you.

No it does not.

You are outrightly lying against The LORD because of you are in great error.

First, I can immediately see that you truly agreed with the Pharisees who called walking and plucking fruits to eat as work.

For if you truly appreciate that no reasonable person can call that work, then I believe that your opinion would have been different.

Secondly, again you make the mistake of saying that "the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets"

So how come you say 'thou shalt not commit adultery or worship other gods, if you say that you are not under The Law?

Address this, if you can.

bingbagbo:
There are many errors in your rebuttals, my post addresses them. But the moment I read the bolded, I knew you do not know what you are saying. Kindly check the following as to whether or the Sabbath was a shadow:

Colossians 2:16-17
[16]So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon [b
or sabbaths,
[17] which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

Further:



Do you now see it.

This says "Things to come" which means it is talking about the future future wherein all will be well and nothing like judgement would be there.

And not talking about the present future where Judgement is and Judgement acomming.

Christ Is The End of The Law (Romans 10:4)

Also "end of The Law" is Law term which you know that Paul is a Lawyer, so he means "the destination of The Law" and not the termination or extinction of the Law as you are wrongfully thinking and wishing.

Which is why I asked you "how come you say 'thou shalt not commit adultery or worship other gods, if you say that you are not under The Law?

StillDtruth:
No it does not.

You are outrightly lying against The LORD because of you are in great error.

First, I can immediately see that you truly agreed with the Pharisees who called walking and plucking fruits to eat as work.

For if you truly appreciate that no reasonable person can call that work, then I believe that your opinion would have been different.

Secondly, again you make the mistake of saying that "the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets"

So how come you say 'thou shalt not commit adultery or worship other gods, if you say that you are not under The Law?

Address this, if you can.

My brother,

Please answer:

Is it work if a shepherd picks his sheep from the pit ?

Are you under the law? Please read Romans 10:4

If you are under the law then you are not born again. My post is for the born-again.

I am waiting please

StillDtruth:
Also "end of The Law" is Law term which you know that Paul is a Lawyer, so he means "the destination of The Law" and not the termination or extinction of the Law as you are wrongfully thinking and wishing.

Which is why I asked you "how come you say 'thou shalt not commit adultery or worship other gods, if you say that you are not under The Law?

You may refer to the following if you insist that you are still under the law:


1. *Romans 10:4*: "For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." (ESV)

2. *Romans 7:4-6*: "Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ... Now we are released from the law, having died to that which held us captive." (ESV)

3. *Galatians 3:24-25*: "So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian." (ESV)

4. *2 Corinthians 3:6-11*: "[God] has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant... For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory." (ESV)

5. *Hebrews 7:18-19*: "On the one hand, a former commandment is set aside because of its weakness and uselessness... For the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, a better hope is introduced." (ESV)

6. *Hebrews 8:13*: "In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete." (ESV)

bingbagbo:
Intriguing question.

The Sabbath was one of 10 commandments The Lord gave the Israelites through Moses (Exodus 20).

The Sabbath denoted rest from work on the seventh day; many believe the seventh day is Saturday (I am not contesting this belief).

Even under the dispensation of The Law (Moses), the Priests were exempted from the Sabbath (Matthew 12:5).

Moreover, the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets, he is under the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2). The law and the prophets was until John The Baptist (Matthew 11:13).

Now, if even priests under the old covenants profaned the Sabbath and yet were blameless according to Matthew (12:5) how much more blameless is the born-again in regard to the Sabbath, he being a priest and a king in Christ (Revelations 1:6; Revelations 5:10).

The Sabbath was a typology of rest in Christ; to the born-again everyday is a Sabbath - rest in Christ. The born again is free to work and do all things all day including the seventh day provided these activities/works are not sinful.

The Lord Jesus himself who is our Standard and Lord of the Sabbath worked on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:9-15).

The Sabbath was a shadow of the real substance which is Christ Jesus (Colossians 2:17) - Now we have Christ Jesus (the substance and reality), why do you want to hold on to a shadow?

Why do you keep gazing at the photo of your spouse when your spouse is right with you?

Do you engage in any activity/work at all on Saturdays as a sabbatarian ?

Matthew 12:11
Then He (Jesus) said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?

I come in peace

If you are in Christ, you are already serving the Sabbath. Any other Sabbath is lack of scriptural understanding.

bingbagbo:
You may refer to the following if you insist that you are still under the law:

No please do not reverse the burden of proof.

I have put it to you to answer that if you say you are not under The Law "how come you say 'thou shalt not commit adultery or worship other gods, if you say that you are not under The Law?"

So please, reasonability, fairness and logic dictate that you answer the question and burden I have placed on you by reason of presentation, so please attend to it and if you know that you cannot do so, then you yourself can see that you are making a mistake.

bingbagbo:
My brother,

Please answer:

Is it work if a shepherd picks his sheep from the pit ?

I believe you know the correct answer is that no one can reasonably say that this is work.

So this causes me to ask you what things do you know that amount to "work" in God's Eye, which every reasonable person in the whole world would say yes that truly from God's Eyes they are work?

bingbagbo:
Are you under the law? Please read Romans 10:4

If you are under the law then you are not born again. My post is for the born-again.

I am waiting please

As I have said please do not reverse the burden of proof.

I asked you first that if you say you are not under The Law "how come you say 'thou shalt not commit adultery or worship other gods, if you say that you are not under The Law

And you have refused to answer it, which clearly means that you yourself can see that you are making a mistake.

MightySparrow:
If you are in Christ, you are already serving the Sabbath. Any other Sabbath is lack of scriptural understanding.

That would presume that a person in Christ truly rests on the 7th Day technically Saturday in obedience to God!

And goes on to work on all other days.

bingbagbo:
Intriguing question.

The Sabbath was one of 10 commandments The Lord gave the Israelites through Moses (Exodus 20).

The Sabbath denoted rest from work on the seventh day; many believe the seventh day is Saturday (I am not contesting this belief).

Even under the dispensation of The Law (Moses), the Priests were exempted from the Sabbath (Matthew 12:5).

Moreover, the born-again is not under the dispensation of the law and prophets, he is under the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus (Romans 8:2). The law and the prophets was until John The Baptist (Matthew 11:13).

Now, if even priests under the old covenants profaned the Sabbath and yet were blameless according to Matthew (12:5) how much more blameless is the born-again in regard to the Sabbath, he being a priest and a king in Christ (Revelations 1:6; Revelations 5:10).

The Sabbath was a typology of rest in Christ; to the born-again everyday is a Sabbath - rest in Christ. The born again is free to work and do all things all day including the seventh day provided these activities/works are not sinful.

The Lord Jesus himself who is our Standard and Lord of the Sabbath worked on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:9-15).

The Sabbath was a shadow of the real substance which is Christ Jesus (Colossians 2:17) - Now we have Christ Jesus (the substance and reality), why do you want to hold on to a shadow?

Why do you keep gazing at the photo of your spouse when your spouse is right with you?

Do you engage in any activity/work at all on Saturdays as a sabbatarian ?

Matthew 12:11
Then He (Jesus) said to them, “What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?

I come in peace

Whether one observes a Sabbath day or sees every day as a Sabbath in Christ, the key is resting in Him rather than legalistic rule-keeping.


Jesus did not abolish it but clarified its purpose, emphasizing mercy and necessity over legalism.

StillDtruth:
That would presume that a person in Christ truly rests on the 7th Day technically Saturday in obedience to God!

And goes on to work on all other days.

Rom.14.5 - One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom.14.6 - He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Heb.4.7 - Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
Heb.4.8 - For if Jesus (Joshua) had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb.4.9 - There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Heb.4.10 - For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.

The day you entered in the kingdom of God through Jesus you entered into rest.

Col.2.20 - Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
Col.2.21 - Touch not; taste not; handle not;


So, there is no need for any Sabbath: Jesus is the Sabbath of the believers. Those that claim to be observing Sabbath are not. They worship on Saturdays. They don't observe seventh year, year of jubilee.

On the whole, Sabbath is for the children of Israel as a sign but a reality to us.

MightySparrow:
Rom.14...
So, there is no need for any Sabbath: Jesus is the Sabbath of the believers. Those that claim to be observing Sabbath are not. They worship on Saturdays. They don't observe seventh year, year of jubilee.

On the whole, Sabbath is for the children of Israel as a sign but a reality to us...

You have forgotten who he talking to, which is Romans who are Pagans at a time when God and His Commandments was not known outside Isreal.

So, it is only natural for Paul to teach only fundamentals to pagans.

So concepts like Sabbath would not be easy to keep in a foreign land of the Romans.

Hence why he said
Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

But we are of the generation born with God's Commands in our hearts to the point that our land used to keep the Sabbaths in the 80's and all work stopped at 4:00pm on Friday evening.

To even think think Sabbath means "Holy Day" which has now being perverted to be spelt "Holiday".

And see all the holiday/holy days we have in the land in which people Rest.

It clearly shows that The Law is on ground but like Isreal people are being taught to remain in their paganism.

Thankgod89:
Whether one observes a Sabbath day or sees every day as a Sabbath in Christ, the key is resting in Him rather than legalistic rule-keeping.

Jesus did not abolish it but clarified its purpose, emphasizing mercy and necessity over legalism.

Legalistic refers to man made laws and man's commands

So, being God Law fully minded means that you are doing what God and Christ Commanded which is "keep my commandments".

All these is because people are not taking account that Paul was talking to pagans
at a time when God and His Commandments was not known outside Isreal.

bingbagbo:
➜Intriguing question. The Sabbath was one of 10 commandments The Lord gave the Israelites through Moses (Exodus 20). The Sabbath denoted rest from work on the seventh day; many believe the seventh day is Saturday (I am not contesting this belief). Even under the dispensation of The Law (Moses), the Priests were exempted from the Sabbath (Matthew 12:5).....

Religion and confusion are siamese twins joined at the head.

See how all of this confusion dey rent space for someone head in the year 2025. Tufiakwa!

Kobojunkie:
Religion and confusion are siamese twins joined at the head.

See how all of this confusion dey rent space for someone head in the year 2025. Tufiakwa!

Seek ye first the kingdom of God

bingbagbo:
➜Seek ye first the kingdom of God

Definitely a religiously confused mind you are!

bingbagbo:
There are many errors in your rebuttals, my post addresses them. But the moment I read the bolded, I knew you do not know what you are saying. Kindly check the following as to whether or the Sabbath was a shadow:

Colossians 2:16-17
[16]So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,
[17] which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

Further:

Christ Is The End of The Law (Romans 10:4)

. Please, explain your position clearly.

Kobojunkie:
Definitely a religiously confused mind you are!

Thank you

Baldwretch:
. Please, explain your position clearly.

Read my post again

StillDtruth:
Legalistic refers to man made laws and man's commands

So, being God Law fully minded means that you are doing what God and Christ Commanded which is "keep my commandments".

All these is because people are not taking account that Paul was talking to pagans
at a time when God and His Commandments was not known outside Isreal.

Legalism is not necessarily about man-made laws. The children of Israel were given the commandments, and it was mandatory for them to obey all of them, whether convenient or not. However, Christ emphasized that the Sabbath was created for man's benefit, not as a burden (Mark 2:27), as He sought to correct the Pharisees' legalistic interpretation. I never mentioned Paul in my discussion, so he is not relevant here.

Thankgod89:
Legalism is not necessarily about man-made laws.

Not true.

Go and check the meaning of the word "legal" you will see it has to do with man made commands which would have been weak and powerless if not connected to Law which is Made by God.

But because devils have finished deceiving people in making people think both legal and Law are the same thing therefore you do not know.

But today, you can do your research on "legal"and see who is control of it.

Thankgod89:
The children of Israel were given the commandments, and it was mandatory for them to obey all of them, whether convenient or not. However, Christ emphasized that the Sabbath was created for man's benefit, not as a burden (Mark 2:27), as He sought to correct the Pharisees' legalistic interpretation. I never mentioned Paul in my discussion, so he is not relevant here.

Correct the children of Israel AND NOT PAGAN AND IDOL SERVING ROMANS.

But if you claim Isreal then I have to remind you that The Sabbath Commandments is God's Law.

But since the time of Moses to the end of the world, Isreal never obeyed nor followed God's Law.

They rather created their own version which is what the Pharisees taught. Mark 7:8/9