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Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 1:05pm On Mar 08, 2025
[quote author=TenQ post=134445393]If It is true that Jehovah is Baal, it is a conclusive prove that Allah is Hubal aka Baal

Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”



Is this verse true?
There two people Allah created those who follow the right path we Muslim starting from our father who is Adam to Ibrahim and others..
The second person are those who worship others thing but call them God and they believe is the same God...

The verse address those who follow the right path not the wrong path.. those who follow baaal call Yahweh.....
Yahweh literally mean God which can be use for different Gods like Baal and others tha5 time

You just wasted your time busy on the wrong path so pathetic



Make I show you the proof back that Yahweh is baaal
Hosea 2:16 says, “And it shall be, in that day,” says the LORD, “That you will call Me 'My Husband,' And no longer call Me 'My Master'”.

That is to say Jehova protest that stop calling Baal am now Jehovah 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The jehova promises to remove the names of the Baals from Israel's lips and strike a deal with them which is convenant....
Who is Baal
Related information
The word "Baal" was a common name for all heathen gods, and was sometimes used to refer to Yahweh.
In later times, the Israelites abandoned the use of "Baal" for Yahweh.
In this passage, the Lord promises to betroth Israel to him forever in righteousness, justice, love, compassion, and faithfulness.

ba'-a-li ba`ali, ("my master"wink: Baal, a common name for all heathen gods, had in common practice been used also of Yahweh. Hosea (Hosea 2:16,17) demands that Yahweh be no longer called Ba`ali ("my Baal" = "my lord"wink but 'Ishi ("my husband"wink, and
After protest of Yahweh
we find that later the Israelites abandoned the use of Ba`al for Yahweh.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Therefore Yahweh is Baaal and Baal is Hubal
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 3:32pm On Mar 08, 2025
[quote author=Expanse2020 post=134449662][/quote]Just tell me that
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”


This verse above is UNTRUE!

Is the verse TRUE?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 4:23pm On Mar 08, 2025
TenQ:
Just tell me that
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”


This verse above is UNTRUE!

Is the verse TRUE?
Hear oh Isreal your lord, our lord is one..
When both Moses and Jesus were addressing them they know there is Baal that why they are telling them to worship the wright God.. which is the only true God (ECHAD) not the Jehova of baal
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 6:23pm On Mar 08, 2025
Expanse2020:
Hear oh Isreal your lord, our lord is one..
When both Moses and Jesus were addressing them they know there is Baal that why they are telling them to worship the wright God.. which is the only true God (ECHAD) not the Jehova of baal
What is so difficult in answering the question

Just tell me that
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”


This verse above is UNTRUE!

Or, Is the verse TRUE?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 7:20pm On Mar 08, 2025
TenQ:
What is so difficult in answering the question

Just tell me that
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”


This verse above is UNTRUE!

Or, Is the verse TRUE?
How many time did you want me to answer it...
Ogbeni jọdani lọ Jare
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 8:10pm On Mar 08, 2025
Expanse2020:
How many time did you want me to answer it...
Ogbeni jọdani lọ Jare
You say, Jehovah is Baal
And I ask

Is Quran 29:46 true or false?

It's a Yes or No question!
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 9:21pm On Mar 08, 2025
TenQ:
You say, Jehovah is Baal
And I ask

Is Quran 29:46 true or false?

It's a Yes or No question!
Accordingly to Hosea Jehova and Baal are equivalent, synonym, interwoven,.
Theybare the same that what the bible says...
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 9:24pm On Mar 08, 2025
TenQ:
Unfortunately for you, the verse I showed you was about Adam and Eve before any other human being was on the earth.

Is Adam not your prophet in Islam?


Sorry, you are toast: Allah is Hubal!


You seem not to understand that this is why Allah says that he is the best of the deceivers!


Qur'an 3:54
And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of deceivers.
Should I show you who is the Best deciever
Should I showed you the God of deciever
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 9:42pm On Mar 08, 2025
Expanse2020:
Should I show you who is the Best deciever
Should I showed you the God of deciever
Is Qur'an 3:54 untrue?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 9:47pm On Mar 08, 2025
Expanse2020:
Accordingly to Hosea Jehova and Baal are equivalent, synonym, interwoven,.
Theybare the same that what the bible says...
You say, Jehovah is Baal: no problem!
And I say

Is Quran 29:46 true or false?

It's a Yes or No question!
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 7:53am On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
Is Qur'an 3:54 untrue?
Sha I tell you the God of deciever
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 8:00am On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
Is Qur'an 3:54 untrue?
Oya let compare the one that said I am the lord of deciever and to the one that said I am the lord of planner..

Allah says
And the disbelievers planned, but[b] Allah planned[/b]. And Allah is the best of planners".


To the deciever Yahweh or Baal
Is it true that God of the bible deceived / induced his prophet
YES or No
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 8:57am On Mar 09, 2025
Expanse2020:
Oya let compare the one that said I am the lord of deciever and to the one that said I am the lord of planner..

Allah says
And the disbelievers planned, but[b] Allah planned[/b]. And Allah is the best of planners".


To the deciever Yahweh or Baal
Is it true that God of the bible deceived / induced his prophet
YES or No
What is so difficult in answering the Question!

Is Qur'an 3:54 untrue?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 8:58am On Mar 09, 2025
Expanse2020:
Sha I tell you the God of deciever
Is Qur'an 3:54 untrue?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 10:26am On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
Is Qur'an 3:54 untrue?
Oya let compare the one that said I am the lord of deciever and to the one that said I am the lord of planner..

Allah says
And the disbelievers planned, but[b] Allah planned[/b]. And Allah is the best of planners".


To the deciever Yahweh or Baal
Is it true that God of the bible deceived / induced his prophet
YES or No
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 10:27am On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
What is so difficult in answering the Question!

Is Qur'an 3:54 untrue?
I have answer it several time
I don't have time to waste




Oya let compare the one that said I am the lord of deciever and to the one that said I am the lord of planner..

Allah says
And the disbelievers planned, but[b] Allah planned[/b]. And Allah is the best of planners".


To the deciever Yahweh or Baal
Is it true that God of the bible deceived / induced his prophet
YES or No
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 10:32am On Mar 09, 2025
Expanse2020:
I have answer it several time
I don't have time to waste




Oya let compare the one that said I am the lord of deciever and to the one that said I am the lord of planner..

Allah says
And the disbelievers planned, but[b] Allah planned[/b]. And Allah is the best of planners".


To the deciever Yahweh or Baal
Is it true that God of the bible deceived / induced his prophet
YES or No
Expanse2020:
Oya let compare the one that said I am the lord of deciever and to the one that said I am the lord of planner..

Allah says
And the disbelievers planned, but[b] Allah planned[/b]. And Allah is the best of planners".


To the deciever Yahweh or Baal
Is it true that God of the bible deceived / induced his prophet
YES or No
Is Qur'an 3:54 true or untrue?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 10:48am On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
Is Qur'an 3:54 true or untrue?
Oya let compare the one that said I am the lord of deciever and to the one that said I am the lord of planner..

Allah says
And the disbelievers planned, but[b] Allah planned[/b]. And Allah is the best of planners".


To the deciever Yahweh or Baal
Is it true that God of the bible deceived / induced his prophet
YES or No

FEAR DON CATCH YOU
SHAME DON CATCH YOU
ONI BO NBE ANSWER THE QUESTION AS I DEY ANSWER SINCE
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 12:02pm On Mar 09, 2025
Expanse2020:
Oya let compare the one that said I am the lord of deciever and to the one that said I am the lord of planner..

Allah says
And the disbelievers planned, but[b] Allah planned[/b]. And Allah is the best of planners".


To the deciever Yahweh or Baal
Is it true that God of the bible deceived / induced his prophet
YES or No

FEAR DON CATCH YOU
SHAME DON CATCH YOU
ONI BO NBE ANSWER THE QUESTION AS I DEY ANSWER SINCE
Is Qur'an 3:54 true or untrue?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 12:37pm On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
Is Qur'an 3:54 true or untrue?
When you are in a tight corner and no whereto escaped this is what you always doo
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 12:38pm On Mar 09, 2025
Expanse2020:
When you are in a tight corner and no whereto escaped this is what you always doo
Why is it difficult for you to answer a simple question


Is Qur'an 3:54 true or untrue?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 4:01pm On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
Why is it difficult for you to answer a simple question

Nothing is difficult here I have answer it several


Is Qur'an 3:54 true or untrue?
And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And [b]Allah is the best of planners".
Explanation

[/b]. YES ALLAH IS THE BEST PLANNER

The verse refers to the disbelievers' plans to harm Jesus, and Allah's counter-plans to thwart their schemes. The Arabic word makar is used to describe the disbelievers' secret plans and conspiracies.
Related verses
Verses 55–60 of Surah al-Imran continue to discuss Allah's plans for Jesus and the disbelievers.


IS GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS/ BIBLE
A DECIEVER
YES OR NO
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ:
Expanse2020:
And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And [b]Allah is the best of planners".
Explanation

[/b]. YES ALLAH IS THE BEST PLANNER

The verse refers to the disbelievers' plans to harm Jesus, and Allah's counter-plans to thwart their schemes. The Arabic word makar is used to describe the disbelievers' secret plans and conspiracies.
Related verses
Verses 55–60 of Surah al-Imran continue to discuss Allah's plans for Jesus and the disbelievers.


IS GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS/ BIBLE
A DECIEVER
YES OR NO
Allah is the Best Deceiver you mean!
An erroneous translation.
Except by Muslims mistranslations (al-mākirīna) can imply a sense of deception or plotting, often with negative connotations. In Arabic, the word مَاكِر (mākir) generally means "one who schemes" or "one who deceives," and الْمَاكِرِينَ is the plural form, meaning "those who scheme" or "those who deceive."

If you disagree, what does the word مَاكِر makir mean?


The God of the Jews and Christians is EVERYTHING you call him

YES or NO doesn't matter because
Allah is whatever you call the God of the Jews and Christians according to
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”


This verse above is UNTRUE!
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 5:04pm On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
YES or NO doesn't matter because
Allah is whatever you call the God of the Jews and Christians according to
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our[b] God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”[/b]


This verse above is UNTRUE!
I have answer you
Answer my own question too

Is God of bible or christians a deciever
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 5:05pm On Mar 09, 2025
And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners".
Explanation
. YES ALLAH IS THE BEST PLANNER

The verse refers to the disbelievers' plans to harm Jesus, and Allah's counter-plans to thwart their schemes. The Arabic word makar is used to describe the disbelievers' secret plans and conspiracies.
Related verses
Verses 55–60 of Surah al-Imran continue to discuss Allah's plans for Jesus and the disbelievers.


IS GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS/ BIBLE
A DECIEVER
YES OR NO
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 5:35pm On Mar 09, 2025
Expanse2020:
And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And [b]Allah is the best of planners".
Explanation

[/b]. YES ALLAH IS THE BEST PLANNER

The verse refers to the disbelievers' plans to harm Jesus, and Allah's counter-plans to thwart their schemes. The Arabic word makar is used to describe the disbelievers' secret plans and conspiracies.
Related verses
Verses 55–60 of Surah al-Imran continue to discuss Allah's plans for Jesus and the disbelievers.


IS GOD OF THE CHRISTIANS/ BIBLE
A DECIEVER
YES OR NO
YES or NO doesn't matter because
Allah is whatever you call the God of the Jews and Christians according to
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our[b] God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”[/b]


This verse above is UNTRUE!
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 5:59pm On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
YES or NO doesn't matter because
Allah is whatever you call the God of the Jews and Christians according to
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our[b] God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”[/b]


This verse above is UNTRUE!
Yes or no is matter
The God of Jew is one not three
And the gods of christians are three


And sir the question if you have balls
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 6:30pm On Mar 09, 2025
Expanse2020:
Yes or no is matter
The God of Jew is one not three
And the gods of christians are three


And sir the question if you have balls
If you think the God of the Christians is three,
1. Who told you that?
2. What is their names according to the one who told you so?

As I know as Christians , Jesus reiterated
Mar 12:29:
"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"


Ephesians 4:4-6
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus.




Again, If you think the God of the Christians is three,
1. Who told you that?
2. What is their names according to the one who told you so?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 7:30pm On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
Allah is the Best Deceiver you mean!
An erroneous translation.CAN YOU HEAR YOURSELF OUT ERRONEOUS 🤣🤣🤣🤣
after the list of all translaters you wish to choose the wrong one....
Except by Muslims mistranslations (al-mākirīna) can imply a sense of deception or plotting, often with negative connotations. In Arabic, the word مَاكِر (mākir) generally means "one who schemes" or "one who deceives why did you left out planned among the meaning 🤣🤣🤣🤣," and الْمَاكِرِينَ is the plural form, meaning "those who scheme" or "those who deceive."

If you disagree, what does the word مَاكِر makir mean?
It's mean planned scheme, e.t.c.

Makr is a compound word with different meanings...
I know you don't pass secondary cert that why your knowledge it limited to that.,

There a lot of English words which has different meanings but the same words
E.g

Saw
Anxiety

A word can be used in different from the way it's suite the sentence...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Olódò

The God of the Jews and Christians is EVERYTHING you call him aawww


YES or NO doesn't matter because
Allah is whatever you call the God of the Jews and Christians according to
Quran 29:46
Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”


This verse above is UNTRUE!
Answer the question if you have ball as am answering you .....

Is it true the god of Christianity is a deciever
Yes or No
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 7:37pm On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
If you think the God of the Christians is three,
1. Who told you that? Definitely u said your God is not One
2. What is their names according to the one who told you so? God of father, the son and the holy spirit... 3🤣🤣🎤🎤🤣🤣

As I know as Christians , Jesus reiterated
Mar 12:29:
"And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"

Did you worship what Jesus was worship when he wasalive

Ephesians 4:4-6
There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
So you mean the father , the son and the holy spirit are in one body and both of them leave in this earth And die together on the cross

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus. You mean they are different now they are not one body again🤣🤣🫴🫴


Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by TenQ: 9:16pm On Mar 09, 2025
Expanse2020:
Yes or no is matter
The God of Jew is one not three
And the gods of christians are three


And sir the question if you have balls
Again, If you think the God of the Christians is three,
1. Who told you that?
2. What is their names according to the one who told you so?




Based on IF the statement of Quran 29:46 is the truth, then
1. If the God of the Christians is a Deceiver, then Allah is the Deceiver
2. If the God of the Christians is NOT a Deceiver, then Allah is NOT the Deceiver


What's your take?
You can't eat your cake and have it.



Do you want us the DISCOUNTENANCE the Words of Allah?
Re: 2 Indonesian Gay Men Flogged After They Were Found Guilty Of Sexual Relations by Expanse2020(m): 10:35pm On Mar 09, 2025
TenQ:
Again, If you think the God of the Christians is three,
1. Who told you that?
2. What is their names according to the one who told you so?




Based on IF the statement of Quran 29:46 is the truth, then
1. If the God of the Christians is a Deceiver, then Allah is the Deceiver
2. If the God of the Christians is NOT a Deceiver, then Allah is NOT the Deceiver


What's your take?
You can't eat your cake and have it.



Do you want us the DISCOUNTENANCE the Words of Allah?
Is this verse true
The lord of bible is a deciever
Ezekiel 14:9 says, "If the prophet is decieve to speak anything, I the LORD have decieve that prophet, and I will stretch out My hand against him and destroy him from among My people."
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The lord of bible is a deciever
Inside the bible 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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