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Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by AdeYORUFAFO: 7:57pm On Mar 10, 2025
MightySparrow:
We are saying the same thing. An ant will see the body of an elephant as incomprehensible vast. You are too small in your corner.
You’re pitifully d*lusional.
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by lawani(m): 8:05pm On Mar 10, 2025
In the East there are Yoruboid peoples including Igala in Anambra and one other group in Enugu apart from millions of Igbo people that have Yoruba ancestors from Benin city whereas there are no Igboid people at all in the west. It should be the Yoruba claiming Igbos came from them. However the Yoruba account of creation says all human beings originated from the first Ile Ife the first land that rose above the waters to begin to expand (fe)
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by AdeYORUFAFO: 8:12pm On Mar 10, 2025
lawani:
In the East there are Yoruboid peoples including Igala in Anambra and one other group in Enugu apart from millions of Igbo people that have Yoruba ancestors from Benin city whereas there are no Igboid people at all in the west. It should be the Yoruba claiming Igbos came from them. However the Yoruba account of creation says all human beings originated from the first Ile Ife the first land that rose above the waters to begin to expand (fe)
You’ve made absolutely no sense. There are no yoruboid people in Enugu or Anambra, also, there’s no Igbo with Benin ancestry. It is rather the Yorubas that have Benin ancestry.
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by bmaster2000: 8:41pm On Mar 10, 2025
AdeYORUFAFO:
Your submission lacks intellectual vigor and is full of emotional lies which your ilk has been force fed for a long time. You did not refute my points with any evidence but rather chose to use the same worn-out lies that your tribe is renowned for. Your response also indicates a gross deficiency in reading and comprehension as your attempt to counter me is grossly off point.

First and foremost it is Igbo not Ibo. This is a spelling error which notable intellectuals have come out severally to correct.

The Igala incursion in the northern fringes of Igbo land (some communities in Nsukka) was repelled by Aro warriors. This is a historical fact. If there was ever a nationwide conquest of Igbo land by the Igalas, there would be cultural evidences (which is not the case). Also, Igbo nation is distinct from Igala nation. Igala is NOT an Igbo minority. You need to purge yourselves of the grossly ignorant Ibadan expressway mentality of assuming that anyone who is not Hausa-Fulani or Yoruba must be Igbo. There are several distinct ethnic groups who have co-existed side-by-side the Igbos for thousands of years. Kindly rid yourself and your ilk of this gross ignorance.
The Igbo identity existed long before the British colonialism. It is the “Yoruba” conjecture that was formed by the Hausa-Fulani to denote the dubious, morally bankrupt people that occupy the present day SW Nigeria.

Bishop Ajayi Crowther is a respected Anglican bishop but it is entirely senseless for you to assume that he had mastery of those languages you mentioned beyond a basic proficiency. The Igbo primer was indeed written by a missionary who was part of his team, he was credited as the publisher. Go and research the book.
Kindly point out those evidence in Calabar and PH that buttress your claim. You’re clearly confabulating here. Kindly take a stroll to any worthwhile department of linguistics in any reputable university in the SW and witness the innumerable contribution of Igbo academics in African languages, and if that doesn’t refine your mind then nothing will.
The fact that you’re confusing Aro confederacy with Arochukwu (which was indeed the capital of the confederacy) is indicative of your lack of intellectual capacity and knowledge. A basic research would have saved you this embarrassment. While at it, also research the long juju. Go to Abia state and the Arochukwu in question to see if any SW state (except Lagos) has experienced any civilization beyond the state.

The fact that you don’t know about the Igbo-ukwu bronze artifacts speaks volumes about your ignorance.

The early missionaries established educational centers as they were spreading Christianity, also Central School Onitsha was founded in 1860.

Mr Man, I strongly advise that you seek mental health and psychosocial support because your hatred for the Igbos has severely afflicted your mind to the point that you’re now d*lusional. You’ve degenerated to the point where you’ve convinced yourself that the Igbo nation is a mere conjecture when historical, linguistic, cultural and archaeological evidence prove otherwise. You’ve managed to induce a dissociative amnesia to your mind due to your hatred.
Your post lacks reasonable points. I am just asking a simple question: name one school in Ibo land that was established on or before 1920. You can not name one, and you are here claiming nonsense.
Nigeria was amalgamated in 1914 and the first school established in Ibo land was in 1925....Thank you to Lord Lugard and his people for coming to your Ibo territory to deliver the entire Ibo people from.the clog of uneducated · benighted · empty-headed · ignoramus · inerudite · know-nothing · lowbrow · uncultivated · uncultured · uninstructed · unlearned · unlettered , primitive people called Ibo. .

Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by AdeYORUFAFO: 9:07pm On Mar 10, 2025
bmaster2000:
Your post lacks reasonable points. I am just asking a simple question: name one school in Ibo land that was established on or before 1920. You can not name one, and you are here claiming nonsense.
Nigeria was amalgamated in 1914 and the first school established in Ibo land was in 1925....Thank you to Lord Lugard and his people for coming to your Ibo territory to deliver the entire Ibo people from.the clog of uneducated · benighted · empty-headed · ignoramus · inerudite · know-nothing · lowbrow · uncultivated · uncultured · uninstructed · unlearned · unlettered , primitive people called Ibo. .
Yet again you’ve proven your deficiency in reading and comprehension. Central School Onitsha was established in 1860 (as I had already stated).
The screenshot you posted doesn’t prove anything as you didn’t state a credible source. Indeed the book was published by S A Crowther but language doesn’t occur by happenstance. He never lived in Igbo land, so it is senseless to think that he was fluent in the language. His Igbo books like his nupe books were written by ex-slaves. He only published them.
I’ll consider your childish tirade in the closing paragraph as an overdraft of your st*pidity.
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by bmaster2000: 10:53pm On Mar 10, 2025
AdeYORUFAFO:
Yet again you’ve proven your deficiency in reading and comprehension. Central School Onitsha was established in 1860 (as I had already stated).
The screenshot you posted doesn’t prove anything as you didn’t state a credible source. Indeed the book was published by S A Crowther but language doesn’t occur by happenstance. He never lived in Igbo land, so it is senseless to think that he was fluent in the language. His Igbo books like his nupe books were written by ex-slaves. He only published them.
I’ll consider your childish tirade in the closing paragraph as an overdraft of your st*pidity.
I am tired of your pointless comments....I hate beating a dead horse.
Show me evidence of a school that was established in Ibo territory prior to amalgamation... you came up with muddled information...to deceive yourself.....I dare you to go there.any research library or learning center, and tell me if any school in Ibo land was established prior to amalgamation....None!!!!
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by WhizdomXX(m): 12:58am On Mar 11, 2025
mrvitalis:
I don't know of that but all I know is Igbo were to start bronze art work before Ife and Benin

Also the Oni of Ife said oduduwa the Benin Prince meet Igbos in Ife

But it's also worthy to North that there is no tribe called Igbos... Igbos are an ethnic nation of over 65 million strong with over 50 tribes making up this ethnic nation
True
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by WhizdomXX(m): 1:02am On Mar 11, 2025
Pelicanbrief:
The Hot of ife and the entire Yorobastard slave tribe must start paying rent and taxes to their Igbo overlords and colonial masters grin
Stop being foolish in public.
Concerning the above the encounters of igbosin life may actually be true, as igbos raided several Yoruba towns then an example is the story of Queen Moremi Ajansoro.
But I doubt they founded ile-ife.
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by presido11: 1:12am On Mar 11, 2025
bmaster2000:
Ajayi Crowther, a Yoruba man, wrote your Ibo Dictionary and Bible, which was the first book ever written for Ibo people by a Yoruba man.
Go check the facts.
He helped Ibo people gain significance in society by combining various tribal groups to form an ethnic group known as the Ibo people.
There is nothing like the Ibo people...it is a conjecture of Ajayi Crowther...and the same people who Ajayi Crowther liberated and muddled together are the ones who downplay their benefactor....
Today, the Ibo people are made up of various tribes such as Igala, Anioma, Ibibio, Ika, Ikwerre, and some parts of Benin.

ile Ife is not your mate....the civilization within the Ibo region began when the British came in 1910....if you have any civilization before this is a rise....as of 1874, an average Ibo man walks naked down the street.
How is Ajayi Crowther a yoruba but the Rhodes are not yorubas?
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by Christistruth02: 1:49am On Mar 11, 2025
presido11:
How is Ajayi Crowther a yoruba but the Rhodes are not yorubas?
Ajayi Crowther was from Osogun in Oyo State
His mother was even the daughter of Alaafin Abiodun so you can see Crowther had Solid
Pedigree Yoruba Ancestry

William Rhodes Vivour was not originally from Yorubaland but his family

became Yorubanised after settling In Lagos in the 1850s
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by ResidentSnitch(f): 3:50am On Mar 11, 2025
bmaster2000:
I am tired of your pointless comments....I hate beating a dead horse.
Show me evidence of a school that was established in Ibo territory prior to amalgamation... you came up with muddled information...to deceive yourself.....I dare you to go there.any research library or learning center, and tell me if any school in Ibo land was established prior to
amalgamation....None!!!!
Oga you get problem ; big one o - maybe for brain.
The gentleman you quoted had already told you the name of the school and the year it was established yet, you're still bickering and foaming in the mouth. What else do you want?
Abi make em teleport you back to 1860 to see as the school was been established?
Nawa for people o.
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by bmaster2000: 4:42am On Mar 11, 2025
ResidentSnitch:
Oga you get problem ; big one o - maybe for brain.
The gentleman you quoted had already told you the name of the school and the year it was established yet, you're still bickering and foaming in the mouth. What else do you want?
Abi make em teleport you back to 1860 to see as the school was been established?
Nawa for people o.
Birds of the same feather. ...you ate here to buttress his lies. ...abeg, Waka!!!
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by MightySparrow: 6:53am On Mar 11, 2025
AdeYORUFAFO:
You’re pitifully d*lusional.
In what?
Bring your champions and let us compare nah!
Re: Igbo Founded Ile Ife by bmaster2000: 6:57am On Mar 11, 2025
presido11:
How is Ajayi Crowther a yoruba but the Rhodes are not yorubas?
Confused human being....abeg, I do not get your time....use your phone to search about Ajayi Crowther's history and stop asking me one senseless question.
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