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Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:32am On Mar 12, 2025
StillDtruth:
Now I understand another reason you people are Mad!
It's because you JWs have been brainwashed and be turned into robots is why you no longer understand human beings and that is why you speak like a Mad person a lot of the time, like you have just done.
Your madness this or madness that can't save your face now.
Jesus commanded a little group to teach his countless disciples globally {Matthew 28:20} so if you people can't present the group teaching you it simply means you guys are playing gymnastics with your brains that's why you're always contradicting one another! smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by StillDtruth: 7:47am On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Your madness this or madness that can't save your face now.
Jesus commanded a little group to teach his countless disciples globally {Matthew 28:20} so if you people can't present the group teaching you it simply means you guys are playing gymnastics with your brains that's why you're always contradicting one another! smiley
A little group whose names we were told and none of them was Russell.

So, clearly you prove you are Satan's child and Mad when you open your mouth to Lie and steal claiming that your cooperative society is one of the disciples.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 7:53am On Mar 12, 2025
immaculatesense:
Sir.
The correct quotation of that scriptures is
Hebrews 1:3a
"For Christ is the express image of the invisible God..."
Express image does mean he is the same person. It only means of the same look, likeness and substance just like I am the express of my own father, I look like him, talk like him, have the same genotype and blood group and have some obvious elements of his Character.
Jesus is the representative of the Father to humans, God sent his son in his own likeness and substance but the Father is different from the Son.
For instance, the Father knows when the Son will appear for his second coming but the son himself does not know. He himself said it.
Matthew 24:36
[36]“However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, [/b]not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.[b]

Thanks.
Jesus said that because he was in human flesh that had limitations.

Concerning Jesus being the express image of God, have you forgotten where he said: "He that has seen me as seen the Father"

God is the first and the last. Jesus also said he is the first and the last. Common sense should let you know that they are the same person.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 7:55am On Mar 12, 2025
immaculatesense:
Yes sir.
When I have an issue with my felli ranking colleague, the advice is that we should report to our superior officer which is our boss.
So, my boss is my superior so therefore I am inferior to my boss.
Just like saying, he is my senior, it means I am his junior.
The man is the head of the wife meaning he is the leader and the superior in ranking. Though it is not a master-slave relationship like Jesus is not a slave to his father but he accepts his position only second to the Father but he is above all else.
Or is it fact that because the scriptures called us Joint heirs with Christ does that make us equal and of the same level with Christ? Is Christ not the Head of the Church as the Father is the Head of Christ Himself? Christ is above all except the Father who his above Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:21-22
So, the wife is inferior to her husband?
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 7:57am On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They are all facing different directions as they talk about their god but when JWs speak with one voice regarding our God {John 17:22} all of them will say JWs are wrong, which of them is right now?
Funny churchians! Luke 11:23
So, you are still in this evil cult known as JW? You don't love your life.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:20pm On Mar 12, 2025
StillDtruth:
A little group whose names we were told and none of them was Russell.
So after they died what Jesus said is now obsolete shey?

Perhaps i should quote Jesus' exact words:

Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Matthew 28:19-20

Oya Mr MAD who among those listening to Jesus is teaching you today?
OK i get it, your holy ghost that's making you guys contradicting one another! cheesy
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:23pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
So, you are still in this evil cult known as JW? You don't love your life.
When will your brain begin working?

Jesus already told us that unbelievers like you will call his group a cult:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master.  It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

So Jesus has cleared it you are one of the unbelievers! wink
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:24pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
So, the wife is inferior to her husband?
If unah agree first we go know sey unah get sense! smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Truthseeker10(op): 12:40pm On Mar 12, 2025
StillDtruth:
Of course. Everyone knows that, but not you.

And if you not out sane, you would have wondered why you are the only one asking me the stupid question you asked.
StillDtruth, are you now swallowing your words back?

Did you not say that Jesus is not the Almighty God?

Should I bring evidence of your statement that Jesus is not the Almighty God?
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:44pm On Mar 12, 2025
Truthseeker10:
StillDtruth, are you now swallowing your words back? Did you not say that Jesus is not the Almighty God? Should I bring evidence of your statement that Jesus is not the Almighty God?
Their belief is anywhere belle face, they only have issues with their nerves when they realize you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses but as long as they don't know where you belong it's holy ghost talks and swallow it back within minutes! cheesy
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Truthseeker10(op): 12:59pm On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Their belief is anywhere belle face, they only have issues with their nerves when they realize you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses but as long as they don't know where you belong it's holy ghost talks and swallow it back within minutes! cheesy
Don't mind the guy.....he is confused....jumping from one conclusion to another.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by immaculatesense(m): 1:16pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
So, the wife is inferior to her husband?
Yes. A wife is inferior to the husband and the husband is superior to the wife. But it is not a master servant relationship but a relationship where on leads and the opinion of the other is also respected.

Thanks.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by immaculatesense(m): 1:27pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Jesus said that because he was in human flesh that had limitations.

Concerning Jesus being the express image of God, have you forgotten where he said: "He that has seen me as seen the Father"

God is the first and the last. Jesus also said he is the first and the last. Common sense should let you know that they are the same person.
No sir.
Your point is wrong sir, sorry to say that.
Jesus is not the Father. What Jesus was telling Philip in John 14 was that he has the authority to do everything because the father has entrusted all things to him so therefore Philip do not need to see the Father for him to be sure of his salvation.
Remember in verse 1, the statement of Jesus was that of assurance. "You believe in God, believe also in me."

Across scriptures it is evident from Jesus and the apostle that the Father is the Father and Jesus is the son of the Father.
1. The Father is god and supreme over all things.
2. Jesus is god and supreme over all other things except the Father.
3. The Holy spirit is the spirit of God sent in Jesus' name as a seal to guide and lead believers into the promises of God both on this earth and to the kingdom of Christ in the earth to come.

The person of these three as explained above is the position and what is consistent with scriptures. Anything added to their person or subtracted from their person is not consistent with scriptures.
The scriptures alone is our constitution and our order both. Any addition or subtraction belongs to the dunghill.

Thanks.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:38pm On Mar 12, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Don't mind the guy.....he is confused....jumping from one conclusion to another.
Everyone is mad and a devil once you say something that doesn't go down well with his myopic mindset! smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 1:43pm On Mar 12, 2025
immaculatesense:
No sir.
Your point is wrong sir, sorry to say that.
Jesus is not the Father. What Jesus was telling Philip in John 14 was that he has the authority to do everything because the father has entrusted all things to him so therefore Philip do not need to see the Father for him to be sure of his salvation.
Remember in verse 1, the statement of Jesus was that of assurance. "You believe in God, believe also in me."

Across scriptures it is evident from Jesus and the apostle that the Father is the Father and Jesus is the son of the Father.
1. The Father is god and supreme over all things.
2. Jesus is god and supreme over all other things except the Father.
3. The Holy spirit is the spirit of God sent in Jesus' name as a seal to guide and lead believers into the promises of God both on this earth and to the kingdom of Christ in the earth to come.

The person of these three as explained above is the position and what is consistent with scriptures. Anything added to their person or subtracted from their person is not consistent with scriptures.
The scriptures alone is our constitution and our order both. Any addition or subtraction belongs to the dunghill.

Thanks.
Jesus is not the Father, I agree. But they are different personalities of the same God. This is the point I am making. You can't separate them. The Father is in Jesus and Jesus is in the Father.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 1:43pm On Mar 12, 2025
immaculatesense:
Yes. A wife is inferior to the husband and the husband is superior to the wife. But it is not a master servant relationship but a relationship where on leads and the opinion of the other is also respected.

Thanks.
So, tell your wife she is inferior to you and notice her reaction
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 1:45pm On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
When will your brain begin working?

Jesus already told us that unbelievers like you will call his group a cult:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master.  It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

So Jesus has cleared it you are one of the unbelievers! wink
I pray that my book exposition JW false teachings will be ready soon. JW and lie is like no 5 & 6.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:00pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
I pray that my book exposition JW false teachings will be ready soon. JW and lie is like no 5 & 6.
Thousands of unbelievers have written books upon books upon books but their problem remains the same:
None of them can present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:07pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Jesus is not the Father, I agree. But they are different personalities of the same God. This is the point I am making. You can't separate them. The Father is in Jesus and Jesus is in the Father.
So the highlighted is what made Jehovah's Witnesses evil to you since we will never ever agree to that.
This is what Jesus said with his own mouth:



Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. ‭John 17:3 NIV‬


And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3 KJV


 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. John 17:3 NWT



Oya Pastor piri how many people makes up the only true God? smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by sonmvayina(m): 2:21pm On Mar 12, 2025
immaculatesense:
I am sorry you made that decision sir. In a family, we have children who are shy and we have those who are outspoken. We have those who are short and those who are tall. We even have those who are nice and those who are mean.
Sir, we don't have to do or believe in entirely same thing to be one big family. At least we all agree that the creator do not support evil but good and that we should do to other what we want done to us and not do to others what we don't want done to us. I hope you reconsider sir.
Thanks.
See Isaiah 45: 7
God is responsible for both good and evil.
You think evil can happen and God would not know about it? Not possible. For it to happen, it means God has okayed it.
People can believe what ever they like. Believe is free. But there is only one version of the truth. It is just for you to know it. Nobody will force you to believe it by faith.

"My people suffer for lack of knowledge".....so says the Lord.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 2:25pm On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So the highlighted is what made Jehovah's Witnesses evil to you since we will never ever agree to that.
This is what Jesus said with his own mouth:



Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. ‭John 17:3 NIV‬


And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. John 17:3 KJV


 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. John 17:3 NWT



Oya Pastor piri how many people makes up the only true God? smiley
So. It doesn't change the fact that Jesus is God in human flesh. There are Scriptures that attest to this truth. But you will pretend not to be aware

In the context of the Scripture, he meant the Father.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 2:26pm On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Thousands of unbelievers have written books upon books upon books but their problem remains the same:
None of them can present a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Entertainment group indeed. You will entertain the demons in hell. You will weep and gnash your teeth.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:30pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
So. It doesn't change the fact that Jesus is God in human flesh. There are Scriptures that attest to this truth. But you will pretend not to be aware
In the context of the Scripture, he meant the Father.
So between the father and the son who is the only true God? smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:31pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Entertainment group indeed. You will entertain the demons in hell. You will weep and gnash your teeth.
Hell is the common grave of mankind so when you die you're going to HELL! smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 2:38pm On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Hell is the common grave of mankind so when you die you're going to HELL! smiley
You will believe it exists when you get there. Russell and Rutherford were recently seen in hell in great torment. You will join them soon if you don't repent.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by immaculatesense(m): 2:39pm On Mar 12, 2025
sonmvayina:
See Isaiah 45: 7
God is responsible for both good and evil.
You think evil can happen and God would not know about it? Not possible. For it to happen, it means God has okayed it.
People can believe what ever they like. Believe is free. But there is only one version of the truth. It is just for you to know it. Nobody will force you to believe it by faith.

"My people suffer for lack of knowledge".....so says the Lord.
Sir.
First and foremost, the passage you quoted was not just any knowledge. It is the knowledge of God because the priest then rejected God's knowledge. That aside.
We didn't talk about any scriptures, I only replied to you message where you said you left Christianity.
Thanks.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Ken4Christ: 2:39pm On Mar 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So between the father and the son who is the only true God? smiley
You can't separate them. They are both the only true God. One God in three personalities. The carnal mind cannot grasp it.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by immaculatesense(m): 2:41pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
So, tell your wife she is inferior to you and notice her reaction
She knows, that is why she is submissive to me and I treat her with utmost love and respect. Thanks.
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by Truthseeker10(op): 2:43pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
You can't separate them. They are both the only true God. One God in three personalities. The carnal mind cannot grasp it.
Does John 17:3 say that Jesus is the Only true God?

Do you still agree with the diagram below?

Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:45pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
You will believe it exists when you get there. Russell and Rutherford were recently seen in hell in great torment. You will join them soon if you don't repent.
I've told you a million times that those your dreams are as a result of hay-fever Russell and Rutherford are presently sitting beside Jesus in heaven preparing to come and destroy unbelievers like you! smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:52pm On Mar 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
You can't separate them. They are both the only true God. One God in three personalities. The carnal mind cannot grasp it.
You're full of delusional thoughts my guy instead of quoting God's word to back what you're saying it's just spewing gibberish without control.
So two or three persons are the only true God yet Jesus separated himself from the only true God in that verse.

Ọmọ this stealing by trick has come to an end only fools will give you the tenth part of their earnings as tithe now! smiley
Re: Stilldtruth Claims That Jesus Is God In Hebrews 1:8 But Not The Almighty God. by sonmvayina(m): 2:54pm On Mar 12, 2025
immaculatesense:
Sir.
First and foremost, the passage you quoted was not just any knowledge. It is the knowledge of God because the priest then rejected God's knowledge. That aside.
We didn't talk about any scriptures, I only replied to you message where you said you left Christianity.
Thanks.
I left because , he was just a distraction to my spiritual journey.
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