₦airaland Forum

Drella:
1. Politicians since time immemorial have been receiving official cars since time immemorial. From the Legislative arm to the Executive arm. Even the Judicial arm who are not even politicians receive it when at certain level.
It didn’t start today, it is very usual!

2. No, civil service is not same as corporate world.

3. Many rules that apply in the corporate world don’t apply in the civil service but still, there are similarities is many of their rules. E.g Salaries, Allowance and benefits, security at certain levels, official cars and drivers at certain levels, etc.

4. I have never made a comment so far as to the rationality of that!

1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

lexy2014:
1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

1. The legislature makes these decisions. They can decide the exact car to buy for everyone.

b. The cars are not to be returned. They retain certain privileges after leaving office. This is why you see former governors, presidents, ministers, speakers still with security entourages alongside other retained privileges.

2. Difference and similarity has nothing to do with their budget.
A business can budget 7 billion naira for cars of their unit heads and top level executives.
The legislature can budget 7 billion naira for cars of law makers.

3. People in the corporate world and civil service don’t have to offer same value to get same benefits. Their functions differ.
Is law making in civil service not a different function from attracting and retaining customers in the corporate world?

Salaries, allowances and benefits are the most basic provisions whether in the civil service or corporate world.
The value of the salaries and all may differ, but you don’t need to climb up to a “certain level” before you’re entitled to receiving them.

4. I refuse to comment on that.

Drella:
1. The legislature makes these decisions. They can decide the exact car to buy for everyone.

b. The cars are not to be returned. They retain certain privileges after leaving office. This is why you see former governors, presidents, ministers, speakers still with security entourages alongside other retained privileges.

2. Difference and similarity has nothing to do with their budget.
A business can budget 7 billion naira for cars of their unit heads and top level executives.
The legislature can budget 7 billion naira for cars of law makers.

3. People in the corporate world and civil service don’t have to offer same value to get same benefits. Their functions differ.
Is law making in civil service not a different function from attracting and retaining customers in the corporate world?

Salaries, allowances and benefits are the most basic provisions whether in the civil service or corporate world.
The value of the salaries and all may differ, but you don’t need to climb up to a “certain level” before you’re entitled to receiving them.

4. I refuse to comment on that.

1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. Did I ask you about differences or similarities? I asked:

if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

b. is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

c. whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

d. who do legislators serve?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

lexy2014:
1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. Did I ask you about differences or similarities? I asked:

if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

b. is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

c. whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

d. who do legislators serve?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

Why are you repeating your questions??

1. Answered!

b. Answered!

2. And I’m telling you civil service doesn’t have to be corporate world before they can allocate such monies for cars.
You’re viewing 7B naira as an individual that’s why it’s looking like big money.
In 2024, Lagos’ IGR was almost 2T. Their budget was over 2T. The 7B is just 0.28% of the budget.

3. Answered!

b. Answered!

c. Answered!

d. They serve the people. And they have to enjoy the privileges from taking such role.

4. Answered!

Drella:
Why are you repeating your questions??

1. Answered!

b. Answered!

2. And I’m telling you civil service doesn’t have to be corporate world before they can allocate such monies for cars.
You’re viewing 7B naira as an individual that’s why it’s looking like big money.
In 2024, Lagos’ IGR was almost 2T. Their budget was over 2T. The 7B is just 0.28% of the budget.

3. Answered!

b. Answered!

c. Answered!

d. They serve the people. And they have to enjoy the privileges from taking such role.

4. Answered!

I asked:

1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

your response

Drella:
The legislature makes these decisions. They can decide the exact car to buy for everyone.

does legislature cover all the items I highlighted in my question?

if your response didnt address all the items I highlighted, how then did you answer the follow up question?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. Did I ask you about differences or similarities?

Did I ask you about IGR?

I asked:

if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

where and how did you answer the following:
3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

b. is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

c. whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

d. if you say legislators serve the people, what value have they added to the people that makes deserve the privileges you say they enjoy?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

lexy2014:
I asked:

1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

your response

does legislature cover all the items I highlighted in my question?

if your response didnt address all the items I highlighted, how then did you answer the follow up question?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. Did I ask you about differences or similarities?

Did I ask you about IGR?

I asked:

if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

where and how did you answer the following:
3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

b. is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

c. whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

d. if you say legislators serve the people, what value have they added to the people that makes deserve the privileges you say they enjoy?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

1. The Legislature budgets for the cars of themselves, the executive, and the judiciary. If you are still asking this, you clearly don’t know functions of government arms.

1b, 2, 3, 4. If you can’t comprehend my response to get your answers, you might as well not comprehend my response now.

Go back to my previous answers and read slowly!!!

Drella:
1. The Legislature budgets for the cars of themselves, the executive, and the judiciary. If you are still asking this, you clearly don’t know functions of government arms.

1b, 2, 3, 4. If you can’t comprehend my response to get your answers, you might as well not comprehend my response now.

Go back to my previous answers and read slowly!!!

since you are so knowledgeable about the functions of the arms of government, how is it the job of the legislature to BUDGET cars for other arms of government?

did you comprehend the questions I asked you?

1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

your response

Drella:
The legislature makes these decisions. They can decide the exact car to buy for everyone.

does legislature cover all the items I highlighted in my question?

if your response didnt address all the items I highlighted, how then did you answer the follow up question?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. Did I ask you about differences or similarities?

Did I ask you about IGR?

I asked:

if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

where and how did you answer the following:
3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

b. is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

c. whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

d. if you say legislators serve the people, what value have they added to the people that makes deserve the privileges you say they enjoy?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

lexy2014:
since you are so knowledgeable about the functions of the arms of government, how is it the job of the legislature to BUDGET cars for other arms of government?

did you comprehend the questions I asked you?

1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

your response

does legislature cover all the items I highlighted in my question?

if your response didnt address all the items I highlighted, how then did you answer the follow up question?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. Did I ask you about differences or similarities?

Did I ask you about IGR?

I asked:

if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

where and how did you answer the following:
3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

b. is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

c. whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

d. if you say legislators serve the people, what value have they added to the people that makes deserve the privileges you say they enjoy?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

It is the legislature that will decide the car type and the amount of money for cars of Judiciary, Executives, and themselves, the legislature.

The cars remain theirs after service. I already talked about retained privileges after leaving office e.g security entourages.

The legislature can decide to use whatever amount they like to buy cars. If you don’t see wisdom in it, you should contest to be a lawmaker so you can counter such decisions.

They can decide to buy cars for even a cleaner. It’s their decision to make.

Salaries and all are the basic provisions you receive once you’re being employed.

Again, you don’t get to decide which value they provide to enjoy what they enjoy. They can grant themselves enjoyment for doing nothing. The rationality behind that, I can’t comment.


I have repeated myself enough. If you repeat any of your questions again, I will ignore you.

Drella:
It is the legislature that will decide the car type and the amount of money for cars of Judiciary, Executives, and themselves, the legislature.

The cars remain theirs after service. I already talked about retained privileges after leaving office e.g security entourages.

The legislature can decide to use whatever amount they like to buy cars. If you don’t see wisdom in it, you should contest to be a lawmaker so you can counter such decisions.

They can decide to buy cars for even a cleaner. It’s their decision to make.

Salaries and all are the basic provisions you receive once you’re being employed.

Again, you don’t get to decide which value they provide to enjoy what they enjoy. They can grant themselves enjoyment for doing nothing. The rationality behind that, I can’t comment.


I have repeated myself enough. If you repeat any of your questions again, I will ignore you.

Wow...that is amazing. where did you read that it is the job of the legislature to BUDGET cars or budget anything a t all for the executive and the judiciary as well as deciding which cars the executive and judiciary should buy or not buy?

since you are so knowledgeable about the functions of the arms of government, how is it the job of the legislature to BUDGET cars for other arms of government?

did you comprehend the questions I asked you?

1. How have civil servants, judicial officers, politicians in the legislative and executive arms receive these official cars since time immemorial? do they budget for these cars for themselves and determine which cars they want?

your response

Drella:
The legislature makes these decisions. They can decide the exact car to buy for everyone.

does legislature cover all the items I highlighted in my question?

if your response didnt address all the items I highlighted, how then did you answer the follow up question?

b. what happens to the cars after service in office?

2. Did I ask you about differences or similarities?

Did I ask you about IGR?

I asked:

if civil service is not same corporate world, what is the wisdom in budgeting N7b for cars for members of the legislature alone?

where and how did you answer the following:
3. since you are talking of similarities, what value does an individual need to add to get "certain levels" to be entitled to official car and driver?

b. is it the same or similar value that members of Lagos state HOA are adding to those they are supposed to serve?

c. whether in the civil service or corporate world, does a person need to get to a "certain level" before he or she is entitled to salaries, allowances and benefits?

d. if you say legislators serve the people, what value have they added to the people that makes deserve the privileges you say they enjoy?

4. I didnt say you mentioned anything about wives. if you read the article, you should have seen it mentioned.

how is it not unusual for a politician to include provision of cars for his wives in the budget of the state HOA?

if you say that the legislature can decide to buy cars for a cleaner, does that mean that the HOA can buy cars for the wives of Obasa?

Drella:
1. The Legislature budgets for the cars of themselves, the executive, and the judiciary. If you are still asking this, you clearly don’t know functions of government arms.

1b, 2, 3, 4. If you can’t comprehend my response to get your answers, you might as well not comprehend my response now.

Go back to my previous answers and read slowly!!!

For someone who knows so much about the functions of the arms of government, who produces the budget for every financial year?

lexy2014:
For someone who knows so much about the functions of the arms of government, who produces the budget for every financial year?

If you don’t need a car to carry out your duties, you might not put “Car” in your budget.
It is the lawmakers that will decide to compensate you with a car or not.

Wike as the Minister for FCT will need vehicles to transport workers and equipments for demolition or even to go warn owners of illegal structures.
As such, he can put “Vehicles” in his budget.

But the Chief Justice doesn’t need a car to preside over supreme court or administer oath of office to the president and VP.
As such, he/she might not put “Car” in his/her budget.

However, they can decide to put “Car” in their budget for personal needs(not expected but also not out of place).
The lawmakers will decide to strike it out or grant it as a compensation and privilege for holding that office.

In the case of lawmakers, they don’t need a car to discharge their duties in the house. But they can budget it for themselves and it will be granted by them as a form of compensation and privilege.

Drella:
If you don’t need a car to carry out your duties, you might not put “Car” in your budget.
It is the lawmakers that will decide to compensate you with a car or not.

Wike as the Minister for FCT will need vehicles to transport workers and equipments for demolition or even to go warn owners of illegal structures.
As such, he can put “Vehicles” in his budget.

But the Chief Justice doesn’t need a car to preside over supreme court or administer oath of office to the president and VP.
As such, he/she might not put “Car” in his/her budget.

However, they can decide to put “Car” in their budget for personal needs(not expected but also not out of place).
The lawmakers will decide to strike it out or grant it as a compensation and privilege for holding that office.

In the case of lawmakers, they don’t need a car to discharge their duties in the house. But they can budget it for themselves and it will be granted by them as a form of compensation and privilege.

Off point

For someone who knows so much about the functions of the arms of government, who produces the budget for every financial year?

lexy2014:
Off point

For someone who knows so much about the functions of the arms of government, who produces the budget for every financial year?

I gave you more information than you needed.
If you cannot deduce your answer from that response, I’m afraid you may have deficiency in comprehension.

No wonder Nigerians are required to write IELTS

Drella:
I gave you more information than you needed.
If you cannot deduce your answer from that response, I’m afraid you may have deficiency in comprehension.

No wonder Nigerians are required to write IELTS

you are right about the highlighted.

I didnt ask you for deductive explanation.

All I need is a name.

For someone who knows so much about the functions of the arms of government, who produces the budget for every financial year?

for someone who knows so much, is the question not simple enough?

AguluLiar:
Keep quiet!

Lagos does not depend on your oil money.

Go and fight your governors that have looted your destiny.

Lagos depends on cocoa money abi yeye

It is well