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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:31am On Mar 13, 2025
Emusan:
No! I don't believe because Micheal is a creature which you also agreed with.
Is this your intelligent question you have been asking and I can't answer it?
Do you agree that without Jesus NOTHING was CREATED?
If you're ready for intelligent questions it's not this type of childish play because i will continue to joke with you.

First of all is there any verse that's specific regarding Jesus being God or creator?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 12:26pm On Mar 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If you're ready for intelligent questions it's not this type of childish play because i will continue to joke with you.
I was on my own when you quoted my post this morning because you just want my attention by fire by force or claim your lie of "JOKING WITH YOU"

At least you admitted that you're the one "joking with you" which means you're the one behaving like a toddler.

Now, you're crying that someone is playing childishly when in reality you're the one who behaving like a toddler.

"If I'm ready for intelligent question..." meaning you haven't asked me any intelligent question before you made this statement "If you ask him intelligent question he will not respond but with his attitude he wants you to answer him as if you are into some kind of investigation."

Did I surprise? Absolutely not.

First of all is there any verse that's specific regarding Jesus being God or creator?
If your brain is working well, you'll know we already dealt with this question.

Where we are now, is for you to answer the simple question I've been asking you since: "Did you agree that without Jesus NOTHING was CREATED?"

There's no question you have thrown at me that I've not answered but this just one question is what is given you headaches.

So, if you know you can't answer just shut your mouth.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:49pm On Mar 13, 2025
Emusan:
So, if you know you can't answer just shut your mouth.
Oh!
You don provoke?
Sorry o! cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 4:04pm On Mar 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Oh!
You don provoke?
Sorry o! cheesy
Attention seeker!

Old man behaving like a toddler
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:12pm On Mar 13, 2025
Emusan:
Attention seeker!
Old man behaving like a toddler
You won't stop amusing me, if everyone on Nairaland wants to verify what you said who do you think always quote the other between you and i? smiley
When you behave maturely you will be treated respectfully not that you just feel someone's beliefs are wrong therefore you should start interrogating him or her as if such a person has committed a crime for having FAITH in whatever he or she believes.

Well i'm still here if you're done with your annoyance because i feel it's time to discuss maturely with you as you showed some seriousness but if you're still being provoked maybe we can leave it till another convenient time. smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 4:47pm On Mar 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You won't stop amusing me, if everyone on Nairaland wants to verify what you said who do you think always quote the other between you and i? smiley
When you behave maturely you will be treated respectfully not that you just feel someone's beliefs are wrong therefore you should start interrogating him or her as if such a person has committed a crime for having FAITH in whatever he or she believes.

Well i'm still here if you're done with your annoyance because i feel it's time to discuss maturely with you as you showed some seriousness but if you're still being provoked maybe we can leave it till another convenient time. smiley
More tears for attention! grin cheesy grin cheesy

When you're okay, let me know!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:49pm On Mar 13, 2025
Emusan:
More tears for attention! grin cheesy grin cheesy
When you're okay, let me know!
Bah wahala! grin

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 4:52pm On Mar 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Bah wahala! grin
Who said "A komi wahala" fah?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:54pm On Mar 13, 2025
Why is Christ (Jesus) the angel of the Lord?~ OP wink
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 6:18pm On Mar 14, 2025
Emusan:
Can you imagine this JaNosense...

You claimed the screenshot supported your point but it's evident that you're the one shutting down your brain cells to cherry pick that simple sentences.

Reason why I do call you JaNosense.

The screenshot says Jesus is the Creator and SUSTAINER OF ALL THINGS, true or false?

No wonder those your gods in Warwick always using your head to do Tic-toe-tar
Which verse and chapter in Emusan's copy of the Bible?
None!

Emusan over dunce
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky:
Gabrielshow24:
This is fallacious!!!
He was an "angel" because he was on an errand from his Father!!!

Not that he was part of a set of beings also coincidentally called "angels"👀

Your false equivocation is just too much!!!
[b]
My question for you:
which being set of beings worshipping God did not go on errands from God?


Is Jesus Christ among the set of beings obedient to Jehovah our heavenly Father ,going on errands from God?
Yes.
Jesus is a servant of Jehovah God.
Every servant of Jehovah God is his angel.
This is the bible's definition of angel, envoy, messenger..
Biblehub confirmed that.


Gabrielshow24:
If you so claim he was an angel while not tell us whether he was a cherub!
Or Perhaps a seraph!!!
Jesus Christ is archangel Michael.
The head of all principalities and powers, Colossians 2:10 & 1 Peter 3:22.
Commander of Yahweh's Army in Joshua 5:13-14.

Your fellow Trinitarians, Biblehub confirmed the evidence of Daniel 10:13 that archangel Michael is"ONE" (echad @ Genesis 10:25, Genesis 4:19) meaning First, Senior,Head .
Therefore "ONE" @ Daniel 10:13, archangel Michael references Jesus Christ as the Head of all principalities and powers in heaven and earth.


Jesus is a servant of Jehovah God.
Every servant of Jehovah God is his angel.
More so, is Jesus the archangel Michael, head of all principalities and powers, Colossians 2:10.
Biblehub screenshot of Daniel 10:13.


False equivocation & fallacy is embedded in your empty brain.
LYING miscreant.

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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 7:08pm On Mar 14, 2025
Janosky:
Which verse and chapter in Emusan's copy of the Bible?
None!

Emusan over dunce
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Verses are plenty which have been quoted several times but your empty skull can't comprehend them just as you couldn't comprehend ordinary screenshot from AI grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

JaNosense for a reason!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 7:18pm On Mar 14, 2025
Emusan:
Christ is not even the Angel of the Lord.

Even though some have tried to ascribe that to Him when considering how Yahweh works in the Old Testament in which it was term Theophany.

But in Matt 1:20 while Mary conceived Jesus it was recorded that the same ANGEL OF THE LORD appeared to Joseph.

If you ask the champion of this Angel of the Lord as Jesus, why was Jesus in the womb and the Angel of the Lord also in action?

They'll go silent because to them, Jesus is a complete human which means when Jesus was human nothing DIVINE in him.
Or was Matthew wrong to have mentioned Angel of the Lord while Jesus was still in the womb?
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Emusan LYING miscreant, the O.P. of this thread and Genesis 16:7 said "THE ANGEL Of The LORD"

"The Angel of the LORD" is different from "an angel of the LORD" @ Matthew 1:20.

Likewise "the Word" @ John 1:1 is different from "your word" @ John 17:17.

Emusan LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
Gabriel is an angel of the LORD who appeared to Mary , Zechariah & Joseph.
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Emusan:
This even favoured the people who argue in support of Jesus being human and divine on earth but against anyone who believes Jesus was never Divine one earth.

They want to eat their cake and also have it.
Emusan LYING miscreant proven dunce.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 7:23pm On Mar 14, 2025
Emusan:
Verses are plenty which have been quoted several times but your empty skull can't comprehend them just as you couldn't comprehend ordinary screenshot from AI.
You brought evidence that Jesus is first born, meaning created, your A.I evidence linked to Colossians 1:15-16.

If you get liver, provide Bible evidence, chapter & verse of your MUMU claim.
LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 7:40pm On Mar 14, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
The conceptions of the era was very simple anything divine that comes from God was termed "an angel" alluding to its interpretation - messenger.

It doesn't differentiate whether the messenger is the word of God or a cherub, or a seraph or God the Father himself!!!

Hence your allusions to the word is very vague and that's why your partner in crime defined angels woefully.

[s]He besmeared his intellect; now he is a laughing stock!![/s]!
Gabrielshow24 post:
"He (Jesus) was an "angel" because he was on an errand from his Father!!!"
Isaiah 6:8 Jehovah God is NEVER, can NOT be Messenger, angel.
This is the intellect revealed in your own Bible.


The height, length & breadth of Gabrielshow24 IBERIBEISM.
Gabrielshow24 post
"Hence your allusions to the word (angel ) is very vague"
Gabrielshow24 IBERIBEISM is not vague.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 7:56pm On Mar 14, 2025
Emusan:
Well said!

Jesus has never SERVED as the word but He is THE WORD!
MUMU post of a dunce.
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Emusan dunce, is Jesus of the Bible a servant?


If you get liver,confirm that Matthew 20:28 and Acts 3:13 is not in your Bible.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 8:07pm On Mar 14, 2025
achorladey:
In their publication titled imitate their faith...




Their lies and manipulations filled brains accepted the no get sense behind Jesus served as the Word in their religious publications cheesy grin cheesy cheesy when the Bible they carry says Jesus is the Word not serving as the Word.


Then the same Angel of the Lord they say and hammering is Jesus is equally Jehovah in their religious publications but they don't want to be dogmatic about it. You begin to wonder what is the basis of their fighting Jesus is angel of the lord cheesy grin cheesy

"Congrats for making a fool of yourself."
On 2nd July,2020 @ 12:55am, go & verify .
Achorladey awon Werey dunce. grin grin grin

When the newscaster reads the news bulletin that "President Tinubu is committed to education,youth empowerment at the 39th Convocation ceremony of the University of Ilorin, did the news report tell you that Tinubu himself was in that ceremony?

Achorladey saw "EMISSARY" @ 1 kings 19:9,15 but came to Nairaland to prove his stupidity.
Achorladey confirmed Ozuo pro max.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 8:13pm On Mar 14, 2025
Emusan:
Despite the lie in this post

He's still looking for engagement by fire by force.

Continue to be restless!
Emusan LYING miscreant,if you get liver, provide evidence that John 14:24, Matthew 20:28, Matthew 12:15-18 & Acts 3:13 is not in your Bible.

"The Word" Jesus is a servant speaking his Father's words, John 14:24 is not in Emusan's Bible until Emusan provides evidence.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 8:27pm On Mar 14, 2025
Janosky:
You brought evidence that Jesus is first born, meaning created, your A.I evidence linked to Colossians 1:15-16.
That is why I do say, your skull is so empty.

You saw in the screenshot, the phrase has "TWO MEANINGS." after explanation, the AI brought out the actual meaning which means Jesus being the FIRST BORN isn't about first CREATED but being "SUPREME OVER CREATURE"

The screenshot is still there oponu JaNosense!

If you get liver, provide Bible evidence, chapter & verse of your MUMU claim.
LYING miscreant deceiving himself.[/b].
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Col 1:16-18 shows Jesus is the CREATOR which means Jesus created Michael and you.

I know that do pain you but you must hear the truth.

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m):
Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant, the O.P. of this thread and Genesis 16:7 said "THE ANGEL Of The LORD"

"The Angel of the LORD" is different from "an angel of the LORD" @ Matthew 1:20.

Likewise "the Word" @ John 1:1 is different from "your word" @ John 17:17.

Emusan LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
Gabriel is an angel of the LORD who appeared to Mary , Zechariah & Joseph.
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Emusan LYING miscreant proven dunce.
Kai see this ignoramus....

The Angel of the Lord is different from An Angel of the Lord....which means The Angel of the Lord is God Himself.

The Angel of the Lord still in action while Jesus was still in the womb Matt 1:20

Watchtower has totally formated your brain cells.

O ma se oooo JaNosense
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 9:00pm On Mar 14, 2025
Janosky:
Gabrielshow24 post:
"He (Jesus) was an "angel" because he was on an errand from his Father!!!"
Isaiah 6:8 Jehovah God is NEVER, can NOT be Messenger, angel.
This is the intellect revealed in your own Bible.


The height, length & breadth of Gabrielshow24 IBERIBEISM.
Gabrielshow24 post
"Hence your allusions to the word (angel ) is very vague"
Gabrielshow24 IBERIBEISM is not vague.
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Wow, lots of mentions. First thing first, let me address you the eternal fool.

I have asked times without number whether God the Father can be called a "messenger" if he wills to go an errand of himself!!!

Secondly, you continue to blatantly commit this false equivocation. Remember how your shambolic definition damned you, where you concluded that even spirit of trees can also be called angels! 🤧.

Every sane person can reason it out why the primitive language of that time used "messenger" for any person coming with a message!!!

This is the set of beings that are "angels".
Now if you think deeply you will also fall into the trap of set because even the Father you allude to is a "messenger" of himself!!!

And this, you can never disprove, therefore a wise man will see this as a show of stupidity 😂.

You have some work to do, your understanding is greatly poor. 🤨
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 9:04pm On Mar 14, 2025
Janosky:
Gabrielshow24 post:
"He (Jesus) was an "angel" because he was on an errand from his Father!!!"
Isaiah 6:8 Jehovah God is NEVER, can NOT be Messenger, angel.
This is the intellect revealed in your own Bible.


The height, length & breadth of Gabrielshow24 IBERIBEISM.
Gabrielshow24 post
"Hence your allusions to the word (angel ) is very vague"
Gabrielshow24 IBERIBEISM is not vague.
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You are a big fool.
Don't you do your own will.
Don't you go on errands of your volitions!!!

Then the Almighty God, is far more capable of doing his own will and going on his own errands.

I wonder what the concept of going on an errand is called or the person who undertakes them - Messenger!!!

Hence logically God is capable of being a messenger of himself 🤨!!!

Are there not people that have brought their own messages? 🤨

And have men not received them as messengers? 🤨

Your foolishness is so perturbing!!!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 9:05pm On Mar 14, 2025
Janosky:

"Congrats for making a fool of yourself."
On 2nd July,2020 @ 12:55am, go & verify .
Achorladey awon Werey dunce. grin grin grin

When the newscaster reads the news bulletin that "President Tinubu is committed to education,youth empowerment at the 39th Convocation ceremony of the University of Ilorin, did the news report tell you that Tinubu himself was in that ceremony?

Achorladey saw "EMISSARY" @ 1 kings 19:9,15 but came to Nairaland to prove his stupidity.
Achorladey confirmed Ozuo pro max.
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JaNosense aka Janosky the werey peddling brains grin cheesy grin grin grin

What a load of werey peddlings about this post. You keep buttressing your no get sense and mumu peddlings of a brain you carry grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Congrats for making a fool of yourself.
Your fool peddling brains knows MaxInDHouse and your werey peddling brains are the committee of worst fools on Nairaland.

On 2nd July,2020 @ 12:55am, go & verify. Achorladey awon Werey dunce. grin grin grin
I indeed verify your werey peddling brains based on the date and time and found out you keep peddling wery and added dunce to it cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

When the newscaster reads the news bulletin that "President Tinubu is committed to education,youth empowerment at the 39th Convocation ceremony of the University of Ilorin, did the news report tell you that Tinubu himself was in that ceremony?
Your werey peddling brains is very easy to unravel here because that EMISSARY is referred to as JEHOVAH. That your ANGEL OF THE LORD IS JEHOVAHgrin cheesy grin That summarize your werey peddlings quoting Tinubu. I know mumu and no get sense peddling too full your garri filled peddling brains grin cheesy grin

Achorladey saw "EMISSARY" @ 1 kings 19:9,15 but came to Nairaland to prove his stupidity.
It is the stupidity peddling of your GODS of men housed in USA written in their books referenced that made them say that EMISSARY is simply referred to as JEHOVAH and they don't want to be DOGMATIC. Chai garri filled peddling brains na wa grin cheesy grin cheesy

Achorladey confirmed Ozuo pro max. grin grin grin grin
Rather, Janosky confirmed werey peddling brains confirm your ozuo pro max cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 9:17pm On Mar 14, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
You are a big fool.
Don't you do your own will.
Don't you go on errands of your volitions!!!

Then the Almighty God, is far more capable of doing his own will and going on his own errands.

I wonder what the concept of going on an errand is called or the person who undertakes them - Messenger!!!

Hence logically God is capable of being a messenger of himself 🤨!!!

Are there not people that have brought their own messages? 🤨

And have men not received them as messengers? 🤨

Your foolishness is so perturbing!!!
Proper werey peddling brains be that guy cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

See the screenshot that follows and see how their errand Jesus is equally Jehovah grin cheesy cheesy

Proverbs 30: 4 Who has ascended to heaven and then descended?+ Who has gathered the wind in the palms of both hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his garment?+ Who has established* all the ends of the earth?+ What is his name and the name of his son—if you know?

The + in front of the descended is a reference scripture to what was stated and guess what scripture was used grin cheesy grin cheesy

John 3:13 Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven+ but the one who descended from heaven,+ the Son of man

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m):
achorladey:
Proper werey peddling brains be that guy cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

See the screenshot that follows and see how their errand Jesus is equally Jehovah grin cheesy cheesy
The funny thing is, Watchtower wanted to prove a point because many scholars already associate "The Angel of the Lord" to Jehovah, so Watchtower decided not to use the phrase The Angel of the Lord or An Angel of the Lord" throughout their translation.

Instead, what Watchtower uses is "Jehovah's angel" both in the Old Testament and the New Testament

Now, ask them, is there any different between The Angel of the Lord, an Angel of the Lord & Jehovah's angel?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 9:33pm On Mar 14, 2025
Emusan:
Verses are plenty which have been quoted several times but your empty skull can't comprehend them just as you couldn't comprehend ordinary screenshot from AI grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

JaNosense for a reason!
JaNosense aka Janosky the werey and dunce peddling brains as usual
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 9:35pm On Mar 14, 2025
Emusan:
The funny thing is, Watchtower wanted to prove a point because many scholars already associate "The Angel of the Lord" to Jehovah, so Watchtower decided not to use the phrase The Angel of the Lord or An Angel of the Lord" throughout their translation.

Instead, what Watchtower uses is "Jehovah's angel" both in the Old Testament and the New Testament

Now, ask them, is there any different between Angel of the Lord, an Angel of the Lord & Jehovah's angel?
JaNosense aka Janosky come peddle your werey over these questions grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by delkuf(m): 9:47pm On Mar 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Why is Christ the angel of the Lord?

Because he was an angel back in heaven where God dwells with angels!
in that your big head abi
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:05pm On Mar 14, 2025
delkuf:
in that your big head abi
In my church where there is competent and equipped disciples who are doing the work Jesus assigned to faithful people but unfortunately your own Jesus god is non-functional that's why you guys can't present a single church as the place where your Jesus is operating! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by delkuf(m): 10:07pm On Mar 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
In my church where there is competent and equipped disciples who are doing the work Jesus assigned to faithful people but unfortunately your own Jesus god is non-functional that's why you guys can't present a single church as the place where Jesus is operating! smiley
it can only be your church. That your satanic group. Thank God it never occurred to me to join you people. So this how I will be so lost. God forbid
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:12pm On Mar 14, 2025
delkuf:
it can only be your church. That your satanic group. Thank God it never occurred to me to join you people. So this how I will be so lost. God forbid
Where is your Jesus god operating?

Our Jesus Archangel Michael is operating in our midst that's why we have fully competent and completely equipped preachers and teachers the whole world know as Jehovah's Witnesses! wink
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by delkuf(m): 10:16pm On Mar 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Where is your Jesus god operating?

Our Jesus Archangel Michael is operating in our midst that's why we have fully competent and completely equipped preachers and teachers the whole world know as Jehovah's Witnesses! wink
God forbid bad thing
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