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Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by nickyvil: 9:55pm On Mar 14, 2025
Taiwan is a country, and there is still argument and debate of the legally part, though they have not been recognized as sovereign country.


Ghostagain:
Taiwan is legally a part of china, that is where the problem is. China and Taiwan are part of the same country which is under a cold civil war !

Taiwan=China

The full name of Taiwan is: Republic of China.
The full name of China is: People's Republic of China.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by TenQ: 9:57pm On Mar 14, 2025
Chickensoup:
No. the Russians have been gaining ground. why would you believe they were retreating when the goal was to hold it. the reason for the Kursk operation was to make Russia divert troops but since that didn't work, Zelensky decided to hold it to trade for Ukraine land that Russia occupies. So you see why he fired the general.
In every war, there is what is called tactical withdrawal.

The objective may be to cause massive attrition while withdrawing.

Even Russia performed a tactical withdrawals in the early part of the war .

Didn't Russia withdraw from Kyiv?
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by TenQ: 9:58pm On Mar 14, 2025
Ghostagain:
The russian operation failed, and as a consequence of that failure, Ukrainian soldiers ran away from sudzha and a truce was proposed and now trump is begging for the lives of Ukrainian soldiers who were trapped due to "the failure" of the russian pipeline operation, also the general in charge of the Ukrainian forces in Kursk was rewarded with the sack for his success in the "failure" of the russian operation !
?
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Ghostagain: 9:59pm On Mar 14, 2025
China and Taiwan are the two sides of a civil war in Unified China.
nickyvil:
Taiwan is a country, and there is still argument and debate of the legally part, though they have not been recognized as sovereign country.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Arapmoi22: 10:01pm On Mar 14, 2025
TenQ:
No problem.
1. A comedian fought Putin a war veteran for three full years!
2. USA has shown that Russia is weak in terms of weapons
And USA is avoiding their boots in Ukraine even though Russia is weak?

They only left your foolish uncle to keep fooling himself.

To have more stockpile of Nukes more than anyone is not a joke. It only shows you are "weak" according to you.

Wise USA is borrowing themselves brain sha, avoiding direct confrontation.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by nickyvil: 10:09pm On Mar 14, 2025
A region can breakaway from a unified country and become a country on its own, that is what happened to Taiwan which China never agree to.

Ghostagain:
China and Taiwan are the two sides of a civil war in Unified China.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by TenQ: 10:10pm On Mar 14, 2025
Ghostagain:
Guys, let us stop replying Tenq. He's incredibly deluded, it's a waste of time.
So, you are even a gang!
SMH!
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Ghostagain: 10:14pm On Mar 14, 2025
It's more complicated than that, unified China was going through a civil war and the government of Unified China was losing so it ran to a part of china which we now call Taiwan and it made that place home, whereas the rebels took over the rest of china, the conflict was frozen due to negotiations with the USA and for some time the government of Taiwan was recognised as the legitimate government of Unified China even at the UN level, until it was agreed that that privilege would go to the government of mainland China in order to curb the latter's desire to reunify with Taiwan.
nickyvil:
A region can breakaway from a unified country and become a country on its own, that is what happened to Taiwan which China never agree to.
The name of unified China was: Republic of China, Taiwan kept that name. The name of mainland China is now : people's republic of China.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Chickensoup: 10:21pm On Mar 14, 2025
TenQ:
In every war, there is what is called tactical withdrawal.

The objective may be to cause massive attrition while withdrawing.

Even Russia performed a tactical withdrawals in the early part of the war .

Didn't Russia withdraw from Kyiv?
Russia didn't reach Kyiv in this war. Russia has been focused on taking the Donbas region. I know what tactical retreat that is however will spoil the plan that Zelensky had because it was an unexpected move. Its won't benefit Ukraine again because they can't bargain for their land and that Kursk region will be heavily guarded. I follow the war.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by nickyvil: 10:24pm On Mar 14, 2025
Taiwan is not main china, they stand on their own, there were two main war that happen, first main china capture and rule over them , second war, there is tribe in Japan conquer the main china(have forgotten their tribe name) which the Japan rule, , the Taiwan fought and liberate their self from Japan and since then stay on the island and form a country. China have been for all means to integrate Taiwan into china



Ghostagain:
It's more complicated than that, unified China was going through a civil war and the government of Unified China was losing so it ran to a part of china which we now call Taiwan and it made that place home, whereas the rebels took over the rest of china, the conflict was frozen due to negotiations with the USA and for some time the government of Taiwan was recognised as the legitimate government of Unified China even at the UN level, until it was agreed that that privilege would go to the government of mainland China in order to curb the latter's desire to reunify with Taiwan.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Ghostagain: 10:27pm On Mar 14, 2025
You don't understand history. Read what I wrote, again and again until you start to grasp it. You are confused right now, it is part of the learning curve, but you will remain confused if you make no intellectual efforts.

I'm teaching you, not debating you. So calm your pretentions right there.
nickyvil:
Taiwan is not main china, they stand on their own, there were two main war that happen, first main china capture and rule over them , second war, there is tribe in Japan conquer the main china(have forgotten their tribe name) which the Japan rule, , the Taiwan fought and liberate their self from Japan and since then stay on the island and form a country. China have been for all means to integrate Taiwan into china
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by ogbe88(m): 3:27am On Mar 15, 2025
Ghostagain:
You love trump, but trump hates you, yet you still love him. You are suffering from "side chick syndrome"
U are not well.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by ogbe88(m): 3:28am On Mar 15, 2025
Tradepunter2:
You bstd come to Europe and say you support Putin.... They will feed you to the pigs.... Useless cowards
U go cry tire.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by orisa37: 8:38am On Mar 15, 2025
PUTIN IS WICKED AND INCONSIDERATE.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by orisa37: 8:48am On Mar 15, 2025
RIVER DNIEPER FLOWS FROM MOSCOW THROUGH BELARUS AND UKRAINE INTO THE BLACK SEA.
PUTIN WILL NOT STOP TILL ALL THE LAND EAST OF THAT RIVER SECEDE TO RUSSIA.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by fxexperts: 9:17am On Mar 15, 2025
3rdeyeNigeria:
Sadly, most, both on Nairaland, Ukraine and the West are 100% willing to sacrifice those Lives for the illusion of defeating Russia on the battlefield.

This war have been lost by the EU and Ukraine ... They should count their loses and move on.
Keep wallowing in self-deceit. ode
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Bigshots001(m): 11:42am On Mar 15, 2025
Feldie:
was it 20% Russian occupied in 2022? How did they stop being present in Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson etc? How did they stop talking about taking Odessa? Because they got beat up and are now only able to operate close to their own border. I have followed the war from the very first minute and even supported Russia. I saw Russians corpses and tanks littered the streets of Ukraine and even promoted their cope nonsense like tactical regrouping and feint operation. I don't think you knew when those happened. Do you know when Russian propagandists were screaming "what air defens doing?" when Ukraine used crappy TB2 to lay waste to Russian tanks.
I guess you must be thinking you're the only one who is knowledgeable about this war, and I understand now where your delusion is coming from, Russian's attempt in capturing Kyiv was futile and these happened in the early months of the war, Zelensky was about to negotiate and pleaded that the troops in Kyiv be ordered back, that negotiation can't go on whilst being surrounded,until Boris Johnson travelled to Kyiv to assure Zelensky of the West's total support and he shouldn't negotiate,that Russia will be defeated on the battlefield

Kharkiv and Kherson was never really occupied/captured by Russian troops, they're next in line after the fall of avdiivka and Zerporezia, until the Kursk invasion of Ukrainians.
You really know nothing about war tactics.
I guess you traveled to Ukraine and saw those Russian corpses and tanks littered on the streets by yourself, and not your usual CNN, SkyNews headlines.
Ukraine is winning but, 20% of their territories are gone and so far with all the western arm supplies, mercenaries, intelligent sharing etc, they have not made any progress in this war so far, haven't been able to liberate any of the occupied territories.
Just like the Ukraine troops are already surrounded in all sides and they're agreeing to a ceasefire now,so as to buy time and regroup, tomorrow you will start saying no that it's Ukrainians troops that dislodged the Russians.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Solseal007: 12:50pm On Mar 15, 2025
ReubenE:
This man child saying another dumb shvt again.

A president that talks like a market woman.

"never seen before" is his favourite line that goes along with whatever he is saying.

Either it is deportation never seen before or tariffs never seen before
Trump as much as I like him is not credible with his words !

He can promote his speech to mean God has a room in his house !

Baba full of sakamanje
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Feldie: 2:35pm On Mar 15, 2025
Bigshots001:
I guess you must be thinking you're the only one who is knowledgeable about this war, and I understand now where your delusion is coming from, Russian's attempt in capturing Kyiv was futile and these happened in the early months of the war, Zelensky was about to negotiate and pleaded that the troops in Kyiv be ordered back, that negotiation can't go on whilst being surrounded,until Boris Johnson travelled to Kyiv to assure Zelensky of the West's total support and he shouldn't negotiate,that Russia will be defeated on the battlefield

Kharkiv and Kherson was never really occupied/captured by Russian troops, they're next in line after the fall of avdiivka and Zerporezia, until the Kursk invasion of Ukrainians.
You really know nothing about war tactics.
I guess you traveled to Ukraine and saw those Russian corpses and tanks littered on the streets by yourself, and not your usual CNN, SkyNews headlines.
Ukraine is winning but, 20% of their territories are gone and so far with all the western arm supplies, mercenaries, intelligent sharing etc, they have not made any progress in this war so far, haven't been able to liberate any of the occupied territories.
Just like the Ukraine troops are already surrounded in all sides and they're agreeing to a ceasefire now,so as to buy time and regroup, tomorrow you will start saying no that it's Ukrainians troops that dislodged the Russians.
I don't even have time for this nonsense. Majority of the so called 20% was already not under the control of Ukraine prior to February 2022, it was already unstable, controlled by secessionist groups backed by Russia since 2014. Russia lost almost all the major battles and had to retreat to that region where they already have support(luhansk and Donetsk and nearby cities) that's all they have. What the fucck is this one talking about that Kherson and Kharkiv weren't occupied? In fact Russia still occupy parts Kherson as the Ukrainian counter was to expel them from the other side of the river and Russians fled leaving hundreds of tanks and amno behind. Same thing happened in Kharkiv and environ. Ukraine chased them away and stopped at the river.

I literally monitored the battle for Kyiv till daybreak. First VDV were defeated at Hostomel Airport, then there was a brutal battle on the road that lasted all night. When sun rose, there were countless number of Russian tanks and corpses littering the streets. Then the convoy that headed for Kyiv got stuck as the advancing troops that would have secured passage for them were ambushed and totally destroyed and all the supply behind them were also ambushed and destroyed. That was when they started adding woods and cages to their tanks because TB2 was wreaking havoc on them.

The fact that Ukraine chased Russians away from the entirety of the north and made it all the way to Russia despite all the hype shows how pathetic Russia is.

Which Ukraine is surrounded on all sides? Something that has already been debunked by almost everyone. Does Russia control Sumy? How can they surround them on all sides in kursk when they don't control Sumy? Trump is a fuccking morron who is desperately try to sound smart to his hordes of morron lovers. Ukrainians are retreating from Kursk, yes but they are not surrounded
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by justmondris: 5:42pm On Mar 15, 2025
ReubenE:
This man child saying another dumb shvt again.

A president that talks like a market woman.

"never seen before" is his favourite line that goes along with whatever he is saying.

Either it is deportation never seen before or tariffs never seen before
You are accussing him for telling the truth about their situation? Western media were trying to hide it just like they way they hid alot of things about Ukraine.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Arapmoi22: 5:56pm On Mar 15, 2025
justmondris:
You are accussing him for telling the truth about their situation? Western media were trying to hide it just like they way they hid alot of things about Ukraine.
They are those who consumes CNN and demonic western media propaganda.

Western media choses what to see and what to be blind to.

I have seen their lies again and again. Even Americans go to foreign websites to get alternative news because they know their traditional media are selective in what they see or cover.

In Butcha, Ukraine, they will cry like Putin is Satan.

But in Gaza, where Isreal Military under the command of Netanyahu deliberately switched off incubators from Pre-Term Babies and removed oxygen from patients gasping for life on hospital bed, that does not concern.

They are so used to lies and western media propaganda that they are averse to anything truthful or having the similitude of truth.

CNN is Anti-Trump and they don't hide it. Just like they don't hide that they are Democrat's media.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Bigshots001(m): 7:12pm On Mar 15, 2025
Feldie:
I don't even have time for this nonsense. Majority of the so called 20% was already not under the control of Ukraine prior to February 2022, it was already unstable, controlled by secessionist groups backed by Russia since 2014. Russia lost almost all the major battles and had to retreat to that region where they already have support(luhansk and Donetsk and nearby cities) that's all they have. What the fucck is this one talking about that Kherson and Kharkiv weren't occupied? In fact Russia still occupy parts Kherson as the Ukrainian counter was to expel them from the other side of the river and Russians fled leaving hundreds of tanks and amno behind. Same thing happened in Kharkiv and environ. Ukraine chased them away and stopped at the river.

I literally monitored the battle for Kyiv till daybreak. First VDV were defeated at Hostomel Airport, then there was a brutal battle on the road that lasted all night. When sun rose, there were countless number of Russian tanks and corpses littering the streets. Then the convoy that headed for Kyiv got stuck as the advancing troops that would have secured passage for them were ambushed and totally destroyed and all the supply behind them were also ambushed and destroyed. That was when they started adding woods and cages to their tanks because TB2 was wreaking havoc on them.

The fact that Ukraine chased Russians away from the entirety of the north and made it all the way to Russia despite all the hype shows how pathetic Russia is.

Which Ukraine is surrounded on all sides? Something that has already been debunked by almost everyone. Does Russia control Sumy? How can they surround them on all sides in kursk when they don't control Sumy? Trump is a fuccking morron who is desperately try to sound smart to his hordes of morron lovers. Ukrainians are retreating from Kursk, yes but they are not surrounded
Who gives a fvck about the gibberish you just wrote here, and your moronic mindset, your false information and personal hype is all meaningless as to the reality on ground, a commander-in-chief of the United States who has first-hand information/intelligence about the war is whom this lowlife misguided and dumb NLer is calling morron, do you even have sense at all, you're here in shogunle or mushin typing nonsense and claiming to know more than those in the battlefield.
Russian soldiers made way through an unproductive pipeline into the enemy's base and have circled them, this is the situation on ground Mr.CODS.
You actually don't know much about this war as you think, I have followed this event up till the launch of February Special Military Operation, so STFU and stay quiet.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Feldie: 8:37pm On Mar 15, 2025
Bigshots001:
Who gives a fvck about the gibberish you just wrote here, and your moronic mindset, your false information and personal hype is all meaningless as to the reality on ground, a commander-in-chief of the United States who has first-hand information/intelligence about the war is whom this lowlife misguided and dumb NLer is calling morron, do you even have sense at all, you're here in shogunle or mushin typing nonsense and claiming to know more than those in the battlefield.
Russian soldiers made way through an unproductive pipeline into the enemy's base and have circled them, this is the situation on ground Mr.CODS.
You actually don't know much about this war as you think, I have followed this event up till the launch of February Special Military Operation, so STFU and stay quiet.
you are obviously a kid. I'm ashamed of myself for arguing with you.
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by PARADIZEPRIEST: 9:16am On Mar 16, 2025
Why on earth is putinn still alive and he murdered all Russians people that opposed this horrific invasion acts against humanity angry the world shoukd sustain its prayers to silence this monster forever angry
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Watcharena: 10:14am On Mar 16, 2025
PARADIZEPRIEST:
Why on earth is putinn still alive and he murdered all Russians people that opposed this horrific invasion acts against humanity angry the world shoukd sustain its prayers to silence this monster forever angry
give us names of 5 Russians that opposed the SMO that were killed by Putin ?
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Bigshots001(m): 10:42am On Mar 16, 2025
Feldie:
you are obviously a kid. I'm ashamed of myself for arguing with you.
Get out you unfortunate birth, I'm older than your stvpid father, you keep spewing falsehood thinking you know something, I know your ego will be bruised when corrected, because you're already basking in delusion.
Immaturity is what you showcase, get it from me, you actually know nothing about the ongoing Russian-Ukraine war, stop watching CNN and SkyNews you this inbred negative illiterate.
Your father!!!
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by PARADIZEPRIEST: 1:40pm On Mar 16, 2025
Watcharena:
give us names of 5 Russians that opposed the SMO that were killed by Putin ?
you ppl dont obviously listen to global news angryhis crimes started,from emasculating russians demostrating against this invasion to silencing of prominent russian activists. angry
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by justmondris: 2:28pm On Mar 16, 2025
Arapmoi22:
They are those who consumes CNN and demonic western media propaganda.

Western media choses what to see and what to be blind to.

I have seen their lies again and again. Even Americans go to foreign websites to get alternative news because they know their traditional media are selective in what they see or cover.

In Butcha, Ukraine, they will cry like Putin is Satan.

But in Gaza, where Isreal Military under the command of Netanyahu deliberately switched off incubators from Pre-Term Babies and removed oxygen from patients gasping for life on hospital bed, that does not concern.

They are so used to lies and western media propaganda that they are averse to anything truthful or having the similitude of truth.

CNN is Anti-Trump and they don't hide it. Just like they don't hide that they are Democrat's media.
Don't mind them. They have brainwashed their citizens
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by nairamaniac: 9:11pm On Mar 16, 2025
givedemwotowoto:
I supported Ukraine and still wish them well, but you see that thing that Zelensky did at the US Oval Office on February 28? That was a dumb, stupid thing to do.

Americans elected Trump. If you don’t have respect for Trump, have respect for Americans, have respect for the office of the President of the US. Taxes of American taxpayers were used to support your war to hold the invaders back and save your people from being wiped out. Why would the US keep supporting him after that?

Give those damn minerals to the US, you’re making demands where you had zero cards on the table.
So your idea of respect is to allow your superior to intimidate&bully you without defending yourself (theoretically)?
Re: "Ukrainian Troops In A Vulnerable Position, Completely Surrounded"- Trump by Arapmoi22: 11:26pm On Mar 17, 2025
[b]BBC News just confessed that the Ukrainian Army trapped in Kursk region who they communicated online are lamenting of the terrible situation they are.
No way out unless they use the cover of the night to trek 15-20kms across the border to Sumy region, Ukraine.

The only main road is already under the full patrol of Russian fiber optic drones that cannot be jammed.

These are the testimonies of those in precarious situation as reported by their trusted western media who used to deceive them with propaganda of Ukraine doing well.

Another good source is Zelensky who will soon tell them BBC is lying.

I have watched these western media well that I most time shake my head at how they are deceiving their people.

Kim Jong Un was criticized for isolating his people from outside world, the west is isolating her own people from any of their criminal activities by disinforming them and misinforming them.

Both Kim and them are doing same thing manipulating their people.

in all, BBC is still far better than CNN in the business of disinformation and misinformation.[/b]
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