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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 1:46pm On Mar 15, 2025
Janosky:
Jesus Christ himself is a creature, "first born of every creature", says your popular Bible.

REMOVE it from your Bible,or remain a faithless miscreant.
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JaNosense has ran away from The Angel of Jehovah cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

You said God created the UNIVERSE through His Son.

But Jesus is the Creator of the UNIVERSE including HEAVENS.

To be FIRST BORN of every creature means to be SUPREME OVER CREATURE!

How many times will this be knocked into your empty skull?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 1:49pm On Mar 15, 2025
Janosky:

You have ZERO belief in your Bible, you so shamelessly CHANGE Hebrew 1:2 on this public forum.
Abeg cleave tight to your delusion invented at Nicene.

😂😂😂.🤣🤣🤣
Me or you?
You mentioned God "sending" Jesus on errand to create the universe then you had a change of heart🤣🤣🤣 and said God did it himself.

Which underscores your previous defense!!! 😂😂😂 and you invariably proved that God is a "messenger" of his own will!!!

You are as unstable as water🤣🤣🤣.
And that comes from ill thought doctrines!!!
That's why people like myself will make you think!!! 🙃

You said you are foolish we will make you wise!!! 😊
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 1:52pm On Mar 15, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
You just have to press their necks in order for them to say the truth!!! 😂😂😂

For the first time, he agreed that Jesus created the universe 👀 which implies that Jesus transcends time and space🤔 and he was the Creator!!!

Why then do they teach that God is non transcendental 🤕?

It seems to me that what they have is mental sickness!!!
That is why they're so confused.

Only God transcends time and space.

Now, if you ask them, you agreed that Jehovah created the UNIVERSE THROUGH JESUS which includes HEAVENS, and Jesus was a creature.

We know that all creatures need SPACE TO OCCUPY, so where was Jesus live after Jehovah created him directly before using him to create ALL OTHER THINGS?

You'll see them going in circles.

Note: the word OTHER never appears in any Greek word where Jesus was described as The Creator but it was fraudulently inserted by Watchtower to keep deluding their followers.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:25pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
JaNosense has ran away from The Angel of Jehovah

You said God created the UNIVERSE through His Son.
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the UNIVERSE through His Son."

Is this written in your Bible @ Hebrew 1:2?
Yes.
Emusan LYING miscreant.

Emusan:
But Jesus is the Creator of the UNIVERSE including HEAVENS.
Emusan LYING miscreant doesn't not believe the Bible, Hebrew 1:2.
Awon faithless miscreant.
Tueh !!

Emusan:
To be FIRST BORN of every creature means to be SUPREME OVER CREATURE!

How many times will this be knocked into your empty skull?

Emusan LYING miscreant, knock your delusion out of your empty skull.
1 Corinthians 11:3 "God is SUPREME over Christ."
To "first born of every creature" meaning that Jesus is a creature."

Is the first born of every child,a child?
Yes.
Therefore, Jesus the "first born of every creature" is ALWAYS a creature.
E go pain am .
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:36pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
Note: the word OTHER never appears in any Greek word where Jesus was described as The Creator but it was fraudulently inserted by Watchtower to keep deluding their followers.

Screenshot Evidences from your Trinitarian mentors translating the Bible.
Is the Greek word "OTHER" in any Greek manuscript @ Luke 13:2?
Emusan MUMU LYING miscreant,go and REMOVE "OTHER" @ Luke 13:2
Or
Continue WAILING your stupidity on this forum.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 4:40pm On Mar 16, 2025
JaNosense has ran away from Angel of Jehovah cheesy grin cheesy grin

Janosky:
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the UNIVERSE through His Son."

Is this written in your Bible @ Hebrew 1:2?
Yes.
Emusan LYING miscreant.
Yes and Boldly written.

So, Jesus is the Creator and SUSTAINER OF the UNIVERSE.

Show me where Micheal your god is ever said to be the Creator.

Emusan LYING miscreant doesn't not believe the Bible, Hebrew 1:2.
Awon faithless miscreant.
Tueh !!
If you believe in the Bible and your Translation.

Why does NWT never use the phrase/expression "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah?"

Emusan LYING miscreant, knock your delusion out of your empty skull.
1 Corinthians 11:3 "God is SUPREME over Christ."
To "first born of every creature" meaning that Jesus is a creature."
Now, the oponu is taking us back to the screenshot he ran away from.

To be the FIRST BORN of every creature means "To be SUPREME OVER CREATURE"

Since you agreed that only God is supreme, then that verse confirmed that Jesus is God Almighty.

You can hit your empty skull on the wall but you must accept God's word as God instructed people to pen it down.

Is the first born of every child, a child?
Yes.
Therefore, Jesus the "first born of every creature" is ALWAYS a creature.
E go pain am .
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That is why your brain is dull.

The term FIRST BORN was used several times in the scripture and most places it was used it's about POSITION.

In fact, Paul who used that very phrase boldly says the reason why he used it in that same Col 1

Here it is from your perverted NWT.

"and he is the head of the body, the congregation.+ He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead,+ so that he might become the one who is first in all things" - Col 1:18 NWT

Let that color-red part sink well into your empty skull.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:40pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
That is why they're so confused.

Only God transcends time and space.

Now, if you ask them, you agreed that Jehovah created the UNIVERSE THROUGH JESUS which includes HEAVENS, and Jesus was a creature.

We know that all creatures need SPACE TO OCCUPY, so where was Jesus live after Jehovah created him directly before using him to create ALL OTHER THINGS?

You'll see them going in circles.

Note: the word OTHER never appears in any Greek word where Jesus was described as The Creator but it was fraudulently inserted by Watchtower to keep deluding their followers.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 4:44pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:

Screenshot Evidences from your Trinitarian mentors translating the Bible.
Is the Greek word "OTHER" in any Greek manuscript @ Luke 13:2?
Emusan MUMU LYING miscreant,go and REMOVE "OTHER" @ Luke 13:2
Or
Continue WAILING your stupidity on this forum.
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I'm expecting you to provide the screenshot of the Greek of Phil 5, Col 1:16-17 where NWT added the word "OTHER" to proof me wrong but the oponu JaNosense is talking about Luke cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Which means, NWT actually added what is not in the Greek scriptures into its translation to continue to brainwashed you.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 5:00pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the UNIVERSE through His Son."

Is this written in your Bible @ Hebrew 1:2?
Yes.
Emusan LYING miscreant.


Emusan LYING miscreant doesn't not believe the Bible, Hebrew 1:2.
Awon faithless miscreant.
Tueh !!



Emusan LYING miscreant, knock your delusion out of your empty skull.
1 Corinthians 11:3 "God is SUPREME over Christ."
To "first born of every creature" meaning that Jesus is a creature."

Is the first born of every child,a child?
Yes.
Therefore, Jesus the "first born of every creature" is ALWAYS a creature.
E go pain am .
cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
The world is still waiting for your reply🤣🤣🤣.

Who told God to do what he does? 🥲
Which Jesus emulates by the way🤔
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:01pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
That is why they're so confused.

Only God transcends time and space.

1.
Now, if you ask them, you agreed that Jehovah created the UNIVERSE THROUGH JESUS which includes HEAVENS, and Jesus was a creature.

2.
We know that all creatures need SPACE TO OCCUPY, so where was Jesus live after Jehovah created him directly before using him to create ALL OTHER THINGS?

You'll see them going in circles.

.

Emusan LYING miscreant, won't you allow your brain to function?
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1. Only the God Almighty transcends space and time.
Yes.
@ Hebrew 1:2 is Jesus the God Almighty?
Definitely not!
Emusan shame on you!


2.
Jehovah God created Jesus Christ & other angels to dwell in the spiritual realm.
The spiritual realm has NO SPACE nor borders.
Jehovah God set space and borders on the earthly realm. Job 38:5,8. Proverbs 8:29. Psalms 104:5,8-9.
Emusan LYING miscreant , very MUMU.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:05pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant, won't you allow your brain to function?
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1. Only the God Almighty transcends space and time.
Yes.
@ Hebrew 1:2 is Jesus the God Almighty?
Definitely not!
Emusan shame on you!
It's good as you agreed that only God transcends space and time.

Yes! Jesus is God Almighty.

Jehovah God created Jesus Christ & other angels to dwell in the spiritual realm.
Your first ignorance.

Jesus is the one WHO CREATED THAT SPIRITUAL REALM as Jehovah used Him.

So, where was Jesus DWELL before Jehovah used Him to create ALL OTHER THINGS?

The spiritual realm has NO SPACE nor borders.
Jehovah God set space and borders on the earthly realm. Job 38:5,8. Proverbs 8:29. Psalms 104:5,8-9.
Emusan LYING miscreant , very MUMU.
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See this JaNosense cheesy grin cheesy grin

Spiritual realm has NO SPACE, what of TIME?

You'll soon run away again grin cheesy grin grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 5:06pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:

Emusan LYING miscreant, won't you allow your brain to function?
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1. Only the God Almighty transcends space and time.
Yes.
@ Hebrew 1:2 is Jesus the God Almighty?
Definitely not!
Emusan shame on you!


2.
Jehovah God created Jesus Christ & other angels to dwell in the spiritual realm.
The spiritual realm has NO SPACE nor borders.
Jehovah God set space and borders on the earthly realm. Job 38:5,8. Proverbs 8:29. Psalms 104:5,8-9.
Emusan LYING miscreant , very MUMU.
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Who taught this daft that spiritual realm has no space nor borders? 🤣🤣🤣

I thought your usual indoctrination is that God is non-transcendental how come you have had a sudden change of heart🤔.

Ignorance is indeed bliss!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:22pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
I'm expecting you to provide the screenshot of the Greek of Phil 5, Col 1:16-17 where NWT added the word "OTHER" to proof me wrong but the oponu JaNosense is talking about Luke.

Which means, NWT actually added what is not in the Greek scriptures into its translation to continue to brainwashed you.
Emusan LYING OPONU WAILING hypocrite. grin grin
Your Trinitarian mentors ADDED "OTHER" to Luke 13:2, LYING OPONU WAILER cry me a river.

Colossians 1:15, Jesus is the first born creature, fact supported by Emusan evidence screenshot & Hebrew 1:2 are the main reason for including OTHER @ verse 16.
"God created the universe....." Not the Son. Hebrew 1:2.



JW's followed the same principle behind your Trinitarian mentors inclusion of "OTHER " @ Luke 13:2, to do the same thing @ Colossians 1:16, Emusan OPONU WAILER continue WAILING.

Numerous instances your Trinitarian mentors ADDED to the Bible, Emusan cry me a river.


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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:28pm On Mar 16, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Me or you?
You mentioned God "sending" Jesus on errand to create the universe then you had a change of heart🤣🤣🤣 and said God did it himself.

Which underscores your previous defense!!! 😂😂😂 and you invariably proved that God is a "messenger" of his own will!!!

You are as unstable as water🤣🤣🤣.
And that comes from ill thought doctrines!!!
That's why people like myself will make you think!!! 🙃

You said you are foolish we will make you wise!!! 😊
Looooool you can easily see how their ways of operation exist in real time. Their GODS of men housed in USA are masters of contradicting and conflicting beliefs tagged present truth, past truth and future truth
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:30pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the UNIVERSE through His Son."

Is this written in your Bible @ Hebrew 1:2?
Yes.
Emusan LYING miscreant.


Emusan LYING miscreant doesn't not believe the Bible, Hebrew 1:2.
Awon faithless miscreant.
Tueh !!



Emusan LYING miscreant, knock your delusion out of your empty skull.
1 Corinthians 11:3 "God is SUPREME over Christ."
To "first born of every creature" meaning that Jesus is a creature."

Is the first born of every child,a child?
Yes.
Therefore, Jesus the "first born of every creature" is ALWAYS a creature.
E go pain am .
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Werey peddling in full flight. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Na to dey delete Bible chapters and verses peddling remain join your werey peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:30pm On Mar 16, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Who taught this daft that spiritual realm has no space nor borders?

I thought your usual indoctrination is that God is non-transcendental how come you have had a sudden change of heart🤔.


MUMU Kiddo, you are not old enough to be on this forum let alone take part in this discussion.
I'm not going to waste time giving you scriptural references.

Better run to the kitchen & assist your Mom to prepare tonight's dinner.


Your Ignorance is indeed bliss! .

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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:32pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
I'm expecting you to provide the screenshot of the Greek of Phil 5, Col 1:16-17 where NWT added the word "OTHER" to proof me wrong but the oponu JaNosense is talking about Luke cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Which means, NWT actually added what is not in the Greek scriptures into its translation to continue to brainwashed you.
To drive home their cooked doctrine
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:34pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Emusan LYING OPONU WAILING hypocrite. grin grin
Your Trinitarian mentors ADDED "OTHER" to Luke 13:2, LYING OPONU WAILER cry me a river.
Which means they are wrong.

Now, do you agree that Watchtower is also wrong for adding OTHER where the Greek scriptures never have it?

Colossians 1:15, Jesus is the first born creature, fact supported by Emusan evidence screenshot & Hebrew 1:2 are the main reason for including OTHER @ verse 16.
The lying JaNosense has removed "OF" just like his lying organization added OTHER cheesy grin

The screenshot says boldly that Jesus is SUPREME OVER CREATURE.

Do you agree or you you are blind that you didn't see?

"God created the universe....." Not the Son. Hebrew 1:2.
But THROUGH HIS SON, you want to remove the Son from the EQUATION AGAIN? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

JW's followed the same principle behind your Trinitarian mentors inclusion of "OTHER" @ Luke 13:2, to do the same thing @ Colossians 1:16, Emusan OPONU WAILER continue WAILING.
Waoooo I like this, which means Watchtower are dubious like the Trinitarians mentors.

Or do you agree that the Trinitarians mentors are right?

Numerous instances your Trinitarian mentors ADDED to the Bible, Emusan cry me a river.

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Good which means you agree that the same dubious acts done by the Trinitarians mentors is the same thing that Watchtower did.

Your tears must fill the 60k tank today
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:37pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Emusan LYING OPONU WAILING hypocrite. grin grin
Your Trinitarian mentors ADDED "OTHER" to Luke 13:2, LYING OPONU WAILER cry me a river.

Colossians 1:15, Jesus is the first born creature, fact supported by Emusan evidence screenshot & Hebrew 1:2 are the main reason for including OTHER @ verse 16.
"God created the universe....." Not the Son. Hebrew 1:2.



JW's followed the same principle behind your Trinitarian mentors inclusion of "OTHER " @ Luke 13:2, to do the same thing @ Colossians 1:16, Emusan OPONU WAILER continue WAILING.

Numerous instances your Trinitarian mentors ADDED to the Bible, Emusan cry me a river.


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Garri filled peddling brains cheesy grin cheesy cheesy grin

JW's followed the same principle behind your Trinitarian mentors
You are still hiding your werey peddling brains with lies. Imagine Jehovah's witnesses followed the principles of trinitarians grin cheesy grin cheesy

Jehovah's witnesses followed the principles of those you call false Christians, idolaters, apostates to arrive at what you called truth grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:42pm On Mar 16, 2025
achorladey:
Jehovah's witnesses followed the principles of those you call false Christians, idolaters, apostates to arrive at what you called truth grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Do you think I do call him JaNosense for fun?

He has shot himself in the legs. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:42pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:


MUMU Kiddo, you are not old enough to be on this forum let alone take part in this discussion.
I'm not going to waste time giving you scriptural references.

Better run to the kitchen & assist your Mom to prepare tonight's dinner.


Your Ignorance is indeed bliss! .

grin grin grin grin
The same kiddo gave you a question you have been running away from grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:43pm On Mar 16, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
You just have to press their necks in order for them to say the truth!!! 😂😂😂

For the first time, he agreed that Jesus created the universe 👀 which implies that Jesus transcends time and space🤔 and he was the Creator!!!

Why then do they teach that God is non transcendental 🤕?

It seems to me that what they have is mental sickness!!!
Gabrielshow24:
Me or you?
You mentioned God "sending" Jesus on errand to create the universe then you had a change of heart🤣🤣🤣 and said God did it himself.

Which underscores your previous defense!!! 😂😂😂 and you invariably proved that God is a "messenger" of his own will!!!

You are as unstable as water🤣🤣🤣.
And that comes from ill thought doctrines!!!
That's why people like myself will make you think.

Gabrielshow24 post:
For the first time, he agreed that Jesus created the universe 👀
You mentioned God "sending" Jesus on errand to create the universe then you had a change of heart🤣🤣🤣 and said God did it himself.

This Kiddo Gabrielshow24 how many more times would you continue LYING on this forum?

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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:44pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
Do you think I do call him JaNosense for fun?

He has shot himself in the legs. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
This one loud gan. grin cheesy grin grin cheesy

His other brother in madness and insanities peddling saw the hand writing on the wall and rest to come back again when the heat is off
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 5:45pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:

Gabrielshow24 post:
For the first time, he agreed that Jesus created the universe 👀
You mentioned God "sending" Jesus on errand to create the universe then you had a change of heart🤣🤣🤣 and said God did it himself.

This Kiddo Gabrielshow24 how many more times would you continue LYING on this forum?

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🤣🤣🤣
Eternal Fool, why do you persist in this ignorance? 🤨

Do you aspire for the most foolish creation award🤔?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:45pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
Do you think I do call him JaNosense for fun?

He has shot himself in the legs.
REMOVE "OTHER" from Luke 13:2
Or
Continue WAILING.

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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:46pm On Mar 16, 2025
achorladey:
This one loud gan. grin cheesy grin grin cheesy

His other brother in madness and insanities peddling saw the hand writing on the wall and rest to come back again when the heat is off
You can see how he stylishly boycott the point I raised about NWT never uses "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah"
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 5:47pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:


MUMU Kiddo, you are not old enough to be on this forum let alone take part in this discussion.
I'm not going to waste time giving you scriptural references.

Better run to the kitchen & assist your Mom to prepare tonight's dinner.


Your Ignorance is indeed bliss! .

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Even if I were a kid🤔.
At least they say wisdom should be found in elders🤨

But in your own case, you are the epitome of foolishness 😉
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:47pm On Mar 16, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Eternal Fool, why do you persist in this ignorance? 🤨

Do you aspire for the most foolish creation award🤔?
Gabrielshow24
Eternal Kiddo deceiving himself and WAILING on this public forum.

🤣🤣🤣
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:48pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
You can see how he stylishly boycott the point I raised about NWT never uses "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah"
I don't think myself noticed that throughout my years in that religious organization. You are the one bringing it to my notice here.

One funny thing the moment you try digging in that direction you begin to see many things suppressed in that direction to make their cooked doctrines work
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 5:49pm On Mar 16, 2025
[quote author=Janosky post=134564770]Gabrielshow24
Eternal Kiddo deceiving himself and WAILING on this public forum.

Answer question you no gree🤔.

Na to dey evade like 🐍 snake😉
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:50pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
REMOVE "OTHER" from Luke 13:2
Or
Continue WAILING.

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Established Jehovah's witnesses needs the mentors of trinitarians to arrive at their concocted doctrines grin cheesy grin grin

So much for we are the only religious organization doing God's will grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:50pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
You can see how he stylishly boycott the point I raised about NWT never uses "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah"
Jesus Christ belongs to Jehovah God, 1 Corinthians 3:23.
ALL angels belong to Jehovah God.

Emusan dunce, won't you ever allow your brain to function ?

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