₦airaland Forum

abbey621:
Japa or no japa, if you're comfortable with minimum wage then you're still sleeping! The expectation is that you do that minimum wage for a couple of hyears and then naturally grow into higher paying job.

In 2010, I arrived US making minimum wage from cleaning floors, 3 years later I was making 55,000 a year and felt comfortable, fast forward 12 years later, I'm making close to 300k per year between the job and businesses yet the drive and passion never stops, abroad is what you make of it.

There's no one path to success and life abroad is full of ups and downs, even high earners could find themselves unemployed, this is why even when comfortable you cannot afford to relax and dull yourself.....Stay hungry, stay disciplined....Keep growing, never ever ever BE COMPLACENT !

chrisifeanyi:
Op go and learn driving and get licence
Get certification in your field and submit applications for job. Don't use indeed. Go to Craiglist rather.
If you can't succeed in UK then you can't succeed anywhere.
Even Canada is hard now.
Stop complaining and I hope you can suspend any childbirth now and allow your wife to work to support you until you two are better to start birthing children again.

SocialJustice:
Shuuu, na im you dey threaten me. Your wife no dey work dey share bill with you, what you are paying is too much.

Them no dey do man of the house for UK, before you know your wife go build house here and you have nothing. Your kids are almost no expense too, school is free and government pays you stipend for each child abi no be so?

Treadway:
fullclub!

I remember you very well..I remember engaging with your earlier thread, and wishing you the best through your ordeal at the time.

But I can't understand why you are yet again creating a thread like this one, that achieves nothing, ultimately.

I'm sure if we could turn back time, to go back to where you were mentally when you began your journey to Japa, 10001 of these kain threads would not have deterred you. So I just wonder what you hope to achieve with it now. Even Dele Momodu wey dey cap, prolly spends more than half of the year overseas.

These kain decisions should be left to each person to make and deal with. No need for convincing or explaining. It is pointless! I don taya to dey read this kain threads for here aswear


Those that think it best to stay in Naija should be left alone, as they have the conviction that they know what they are doing. Those that think is best to Japa should be left alone, as they also have the conviction that they know what they are doing...

All this shalaye is not necessary

Atk1nson:
The guy you are talking is probably already set in his ways.

He has been in the UK for three years, does not have a driving license and instead complain failure rate is too high so people should avoid it.

fullclub:
Calm down again.. Once u got kids one cant work full time only one can

fullclub:
Calm down again.. Once u got kids one cant work full time only one can

fullclub:
Na na unless u are in a student accommodation. Once u are in a family house that's it house rent, heater, water u take care of it. If anyone claims otherwise let them bring their bills online and proves

fullclub:
oga take a chill. In my previous thread i highlighted driving licence and importance of owning a car. This is my second year.am on practical aspects of driving
Was only explaining that its not something u wake up to get. Its a process unlike Nigeria


Dont have high blood pressure. U can create ur thread and explain ur experience. This is mine

chrisifeanyi:
What if one of the kids is up to 10?

Gerrard59:
Yes, the "doing it for my children" is absolute nonsense unless the person gets a good job in the abroad. The only country I can accept such is the US and maybe Canada due to its proximity. Elsewhere, the chances aren't that good. UK even try sef. Countries like Spain, Northern Europe and elsewhere are dead ends for second-generation black people. Look at France? Apart from Tidjane Thiam, I am to yet to read about any stellar black person who went through the system compared to the US. Another unfortunate one is Belgium!

Anything aside scholarship or getting directly employed or transferred by an organisation in Nigeria to the branch in the abroad is nonsense. Covenant University is there, ditto good universities in South Africa.

chrisifeanyi:
Were you not driving before in Nigeria?
If you were it won't take time for you to pass the test there

Atk1nson:
The guy you are talking is probably already set in his ways.

He has been in the UK for three years, does not have a driving licence and instead complains failure rate is too high so people should avoid it.

He has been doing minimum wage job since he arrive and will rather complain rather than ask for guidiance

SocialJustice:
I'm calm, no mind my writing style. It portrays me wrongly.

Give yourself 5 years, you won't ever regret leaving Nigeria. Only the constant power, security and cheap Internet is an instant winner for me. I see people returning from or going to work 4am. That country is too sweet.

ahmedio2017:
What is the guidelines and way forward please boss

Treadway:
fullclub!

I remember you very well..I remember engaging with your earlier thread, and wishing you the best through your ordeal at the time.

But I can't understand why you are yet again creating a thread like this one, that achieves nothing, ultimately.

I'm sure if we could turn back time, to go back to where you were mentally when you began your journey to Japa, 10001 of these kain threads would not have deterred you. So I just wonder what you hope to achieve with it now. Even Dele Momodu wey dey cap, prolly spends more than half of the year overseas.

These kain decisions should be left to each person to make and deal with. No need for convincing or explaining. It is pointless! I don taya to dey read this kain threads for here aswear


Those that think it best to stay in Naija should be left alone, as they have the conviction that they know what they are doing. Those that think is best to Japa should be left alone, as they also have the conviction that they know what they are doing...

All this shalaye is not necessary

Gerrard59:
Those with the right skills will get higher paying jobs. Just be prepared for the fierce competition.

fullclub:
The debate around relocating abroad (“Japa”) has intensified after media personality Dele Momodu claimed that anyone who spends ₦30 million to leave Nigeria is a fool. His statement sparked mixed reactions online, with some agreeing while others says that that 30 million is nothing compared to the financial reward that comes with japa

Having lived in the UK for some time now, I’ll share an honest perspective on the financial reality of life here, especially for those considering selling anything just for relocation.

Breaking Down Earnings in the UK

For context, I work an average of 36 hours per week (9 hours daily for 4 days), meaning in a month, I clock 144 hours of work.

Minimum wage in the UK is £11.44 per hour, and most employers are required to pay this, except in cases like apprenticeships.
144 hours × £11.44 = £1,647.36 per month
After tax deductions, which depend on factors like number of jobs and tax codes, my take-home pay is around £1,479.55.


Monthly Expenses in the UK
Here’s a breakdown of my fixed monthly costs:

House rent – £700
Gas & electricity – £120
Council tax – £110
Water bill – £43.46
Food – £200
Transport – £140
Phone bill – £52 (for two people

Total expenses: £1,365.46
Remaining balance: £114.09
Although i could have chosen to work up to 5 days which would have given me total income of 2059 and 1775 after tax but to give my partner a chance while i take turn to look after the kids

Note: food is extremely cheap and affordable unlike in Nigeria. That's why most that relocated after few months they look revived and fresh

Now, factor in additional responsibilities. We send £150 monthly to family back home in Nigeria. My wife, who works part-time (two days per week because of our baby as leaving the children will risk losing them to the governmen), earns about £732 per month, which we try to save, though unforeseen expenses (baby food, transport, etc.) often reduce our savings to around £500 per month.
Aside this we spent over 4000 pounds this year alone for health insurance. Yes its a must you pay it and funny enough i have not visited the hospital once since i arrived.

More worrisome is the endless billing from home , the billing from friends and extended family is out of this world, from your pastor who want tithe in pounds and thinks it's because of his or her prayer u went out, to your siblings, to your inlaws, to secondary schools friends, university's friends to even your street guys to Facebook friends. Those who will quickly open Opay account for their 3 years old child and forward you school fees or birthday bill. What about those who forwarded us their house rent bill to help clear their rent of over 500k abeg na

A lot of Nigeria said if they are offered 50 million and japa, they will prefer japa as they will earn more over when i read this comment on Facebook i just laugh hard as this is not the case as a research said that over 39% of UK residents have a minimum of 1000 pounds as savings this means that Despite earning in pounds, many struggle with high living costs, taxes, and bills but on the other hand In Nigeria, ₦50M can fund investments that generate steady income.
In the UK, unless you’re in a high-paying field, you will mostly live paycheck to paycheck


Comparing Life as a Single vs. Married Individual Abroad


Single individuals have a higher chance of saving since they have fewer responsibilities.

Married couples without kids can maximize their earnings by both working full-time while covering expenses from one salary and saving entirely the other salary.

Families with children face higher expenses, including childcare, health insurance, visa fees.

This is why adequate preparation is crucial before relocating, especially for families


Is Dele Momodu Right? Should You Japa with ₦30M?
We should understand that Dele Momodu is an elder and vastly traveled and he knows what is obtainable in Europe and America.
His point is valid if you look at finances alone because at the ene of the day almost all you make goes back to the system. But If insecurity concerns and food inflation in Nigeria didn’t exist, staying back with ₦30M would be a better financial decision as you could expand your business.

Another thought is the issue of owning a house. An average 3 bedroom house cost over 300k pounds and i have worked with colleagues who are in their late 50s struggling to work and pay off their mortgage so as to be free while me in my 30s own over 3 house back in Nigeria . Some pays mortgage for over 35 to 40 years but shockingly most they end up selling it at old age hand over this money to care homes to take care of them till death. Note children dont have any responsibility of taking care of their age parents they leave their lives while the parents uses proceed from their house to offset this bill

Final Thoughts: Should You Japa?

Japa is not a one-size-fits-all decision. If you have ₦30M and solid income streams in Nigeria, it might be wiser to invest and build wealth at home. But if safety and quality of life matter more, than wealth accumulation then relocating might still be the best option but must be done tactically especially when coming on student visa as one academic error could throw u off.

Bottom line: Japa is not a magic solution—it requires careful planning, a realistic mindset, and financial discipline.

Picture below is my phone bill

There other bills i chose to ignore like the tv bill. I didn't buy tv because i know that one will end in another billing

fullclub:
Even with receipts i showed oya suggest your owb bill
Even my house rent of 700 is the cheapest as its a tiny space.

A friend in London pays 1800 for same type of 2 bedroom. We do same type of job.. Only he works more hours

fullclub:
The debate around relocating abroad (“Japa”) has intensified after media personality Dele Momodu claimed that anyone who spends ₦30 million to leave Nigeria is a fool. His statement sparked mixed reactions online, with some agreeing while others says that that 30 million is nothing compared to the financial reward that comes with japa

Having lived in the UK for some time now, I’ll share an honest perspective on the financial reality of life here, especially for those considering selling anything just for relocation.

Breaking Down Earnings in the UK

For context, I work an average of 36 hours per week (9 hours daily for 4 days), meaning in a month, I clock 144 hours of work.

Minimum wage in the UK is £11.44 per hour, and most employers are required to pay this, except in cases like apprenticeships.
144 hours × £11.44 = £1,647.36 per month
After tax deductions, which depend on factors like number of jobs and tax codes, my take-home pay is around £1,479.55.


Monthly Expenses in the UK
Here’s a breakdown of my fixed monthly costs:

House rent – £700
Gas & electricity – £120
Council tax – £110
Water bill – £43.46
Food – £200
Transport – £140
Phone bill – £52 (for two people

Total expenses: £1,365.46
Remaining balance: £114.09
Although i could have chosen to work up to 5 days which would have given me total income of 2059 and 1775 after tax but to give my partner a chance while i take turn to look after the kids

Note: food is extremely cheap and affordable unlike in Nigeria. That's why most that relocated after few months they look revived and fresh

Now, factor in additional responsibilities. We send £150 monthly to family back home in Nigeria. My wife, who works part-time (two days per week because of our baby as leaving the children will risk losing them to the governmen), earns about £732 per month, which we try to save, though unforeseen expenses (baby food, transport, etc.) often reduce our savings to around £500 per month.
Aside this we spent over 4000 pounds this year alone for health insurance. Yes its a must you pay it and funny enough i have not visited the hospital once since i arrived.

More worrisome is the endless billing from home , the billing from friends and extended family is out of this world, from your pastor who want tithe in pounds and thinks it's because of his or her prayer u went out, to your siblings, to your inlaws, to secondary schools friends, university's friends to even your street guys to Facebook friends. Those who will quickly open Opay account for their 3 years old child and forward you school fees or birthday bill. What about those who forwarded us their house rent bill to help clear their rent of over 500k abeg na

A lot of Nigeria said if they are offered 50 million and japa, they will prefer japa as they will earn more over when i read this comment on Facebook i just laugh hard as this is not the case as a research said that over 39% of UK residents have a minimum of 1000 pounds as savings this means that Despite earning in pounds, many struggle with high living costs, taxes, and bills but on the other hand In Nigeria, ₦50M can fund investments that generate steady income.
In the UK, unless you’re in a high-paying field, you will mostly live paycheck to paycheck


Comparing Life as a Single vs. Married Individual Abroad


Single individuals have a higher chance of saving since they have fewer responsibilities.

Married couples without kids can maximize their earnings by both working full-time while covering expenses from one salary and saving entirely the other salary.

Families with children face higher expenses, including childcare, health insurance, visa fees.

This is why adequate preparation is crucial before relocating, especially for families


Is Dele Momodu Right? Should You Japa with ₦30M?
We should understand that Dele Momodu is an elder and vastly traveled and he knows what is obtainable in Europe and America.
His point is valid if you look at finances alone because at the ene of the day almost all you make goes back to the system. But If insecurity concerns and food inflation in Nigeria didn’t exist, staying back with ₦30M would be a better financial decision as you could expand your business.

Another thought is the issue of owning a house. An average 3 bedroom house cost over 300k pounds and i have worked with colleagues who are in their late 50s struggling to work and pay off their mortgage so as to be free while me in my 30s own over 3 house back in Nigeria . Some pays mortgage for over 35 to 40 years but shockingly most they end up selling it at old age hand over this money to care homes to take care of them till death. Note children dont have any responsibility of taking care of their age parents they leave their lives while the parents uses proceed from their house to offset this bill

Final Thoughts: Should You Japa?

Japa is not a one-size-fits-all decision. If you have ₦30M and solid income streams in Nigeria, it might be wiser to invest and build wealth at home. But if safety and quality of life matter more, than wealth accumulation then relocating might still be the best option but must be done tactically especially when coming on student visa as one academic error could throw u off.

Bottom line: Japa is not a magic solution—it requires careful planning, a realistic mindset, and financial discipline.

Picture below is my phone bill

There other bills i chose to ignore like the tv bill. I didn't buy tv because i know that one will end in another billing

Omalicious1:
Indeed, anyone with N30m in his or her account and wants to japa, shouldn't say that is because Nigeria is bad that's why...with such money in your account, u could start a lucrative business in nigeria and make good profit...the grass isn't always greener as we think it is...after reading Lord Lugard's book...the man really understood how an average Nigerian behaves...we are still in modern day colonialism

tensazangetsu20:
Skill issue bros. This one is only peculiar to you o😂😂

004gist:
You easily insult people. Opp made his submission backed it with receipt.
Did he says he is jobless? At least he is working n footing his bill. Does it mean he will be there forever. Its a progress.

Please learn to talk in public space.

For your information qualified nurses earn 2k in uk that's before taxes. Care workers earn a anywhere from 12 pounds to 14 pounds per hour.

OlawaleBammie:
He has said everything Chileman. U don't have to systematically make ur hatred for ur country of birth known. He never said u should not jakpa

guysbewise:
It is peppering you that not everyone here is gullible to fall for your Chili sauce lies from Chile of how things are so easy in Chile for international students whose close relatives are not very rich to be sending money to them in Chile.

There are many of us that have japa and have good jobs in developed countries so you can not come here with your Chili sauce lies from Chile to deceive us.

How did you get a job in a Chile bank with no background check as you have not been in Chile for up to five years and this is a financial regulatory requirement in developed countries and how are you driving in Chile without driving lessons, driving test and a driving license in Chile? As you are an international student in Chile.