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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:50pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
REMOVE "OTHER" from Luke 13:2
Or
Continue WAILING.

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Oponu.

First, not ALL TRINITARIANS TRANSLATIONS use "OTHER" in Luke 13:2.

It's evident you know the added word "OTHER" by NWT is pure fraudulent but you want to hide under if other can do it then Watchtower has the right to it as well.

Which means the same thing you accuse other for and even call them different names is what you're defending your deluded organization for.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:51pm On Mar 16, 2025
[quote author=Gabrielshow24 post=134564806][/quote]That's the mode of operation. Once cornered they start looking for means to deflect and ran away from the discussion altogether.

The funny aspect is they will run away till they see the threat are no longer there then they slide in secretly to advance more lies.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:52pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
Oponu.

First, not ALL TRINITARIANS TRANSLATIONS use "OTHER" in Luke 13:2.

It's evident you know the added word "OTHER" by NWT is pure fraudulent but you want to hide under if other can do it then Watchtower has the right to it as well.

Which means the same thing you accuse other for and even call them different names is what you're defending your deluded organization for.
One thing they don't like is using the very same standards they set for others to judge them. They detest it like mad.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:53pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Jesus Christ belongs to Jehovah God, 1 Corinthians 3:23.
ALL angels belong to Jehovah God.

Emusan dunce, won't you ever allow your brain to function ?

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Sure all ANGELS belongs to God AND Jesus is the Creator of ALL ANGELS

So there's nothing like "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah according" to NWT grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 5:54pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
Sure all ANGELS belongs to God AND Jesus is the Creator of ALL ANGELS

So there's nothing like "The Angel of Jehovah or an Angel of Jehovah according" to NWT grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
He wants to wriggle free again
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 5:57pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Jesus Christ belongs to Jehovah God, 1 Corinthians 3:23.
ALL angels belong to Jehovah God.

Emusan dunce, won't you ever allow your brain to function ?

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That's a lie, because according to you God used Jesus to create the Angels🤔
Hence The whole of creation belongs to Jesus😉.

It's just the goodwill of the son to make the whole of creation know the Father🤨.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:59pm On Mar 16, 2025
achorladey:
I don't think myself noticed that throughout my years in that religious organization. You are the one bringing it to my notice here.
Even JaNosense and his deluded brothers don't know.

One funny thing the moment you try digging in that direction you begin to see many things suppressed in that direction to make their cooked doctrines work
They don't research most of the topic they discuss here in line with Watchtower publications & NWT just the delusions they've packed inside that their empty heads
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 6:01pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
Even JaNosense and his deluded brothers don't know.



They don't research most of the topic they discuss here in line with Watchtower publications & NWT just the delusions they've packed inside that their empty heads
That's why Jehovah's witnesses become easy prey for those who are familiar with their beliefs. Even those on the outside have more concrete records of their manipulations of the scriptures than many of their members
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 6:02pm On Mar 16, 2025
ALL these MUMU WAILERS consoling themselves.
They don't realize that EVERY Bible translation has words and phrases included by the translators for clarity etc.
And doctrinal bias eg John 1:18 "Himself God" in All their Trinitarian Bibles not in any Greek manuscripts.

Go and check NET Bible @ bible gateway for instance from Genesis to Revelation, so many words ADDED there in.
But ALL of them are crying because of JW's.
WHY?

Their Bad belle & High PB nah follow come free of charge.

WAILING WAILERS,Enjoy your WAILING.

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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:04pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
ALL these MUMU WAILERS consoling themselves.
They don't realize that EVERY Bible translation has words and phrases included by the translators for clarity etc.
And doctrinal bias eg John 1:18 "Himself God" in All their Trinitarian Bibles not in any Greek manuscripts.

Go and check NET Bible @ bible gateway for instance from Genesis to Revelation, so many words ADDED there in.
But ALL of them are crying because of JW's.
WHY?

Their Bad belle & High PB nah follow come free of charge.

WAILING WAILERS,Enjoy your WAILING.

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Innocent until proven guilty.

Answer the questions set before you and prove your innocence!

If not, your silence will be taken as being guilty 🙃!!!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 6:05pm On Mar 16, 2025
Emusan:
Even JaNosense and his deluded brothers don't know.



They don't research most of the topic they discuss here in line with Watchtower publications & NWT just the delusions they've packed inside that their empty heads
Please Console yourself.
Emusan LYING miscreant,enough proof on Nairaland that you are LYING to console yourself.

Nah JW's tell you say Jesus Christ is first born creature before you provide evidence confirming that.

Now , you are LYING on this public forum.

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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 6:11pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
ALL these MUMU WAILERS consoling themselves.
They don't realize that EVERY Bible translation has words and phrases included by the translators for clarity etc.
And doctrinal bias eg John 1:18 "Himself God" in All their Trinitarian Bibles not in any Greek manuscripts.

Go and check NET Bible @ bible gateway for instance from Genesis to Revelation, so many words ADDED there in.
But ALL of them are crying because of JW's.
WHY?

Their Bad belle & High PB nah follow come free of charge.

WAILING WAILERS,Enjoy your WAILING.

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Cover up your garri filled peddling brains. In the final analysis na copy copy your religious organization like to do to obtain their so called truth grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 6:12pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Please Console yourself.
Emusan LYING miscreant,enough proof on Nairaland that you are LYING to console yourself.

Nah JW's tell you say Jesus Christ is first born creature before you provide evidence confirming that.

Now , you are LYING on this public forum.

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Trying hard to project your lying ways on him now after you have been exposed by stating you get motivation to cook up lies by trinitarian mentors grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:21pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
Please Console yourself.
Emusan LYING miscreant,enough proof on Nairaland that you are LYING to console yourself.
Provide just one.

Nah JW's tell you say Jesus Christ is first born creature before you provide evidence confirming that.
Bible says Jesus is the FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATURES.

I provided evidence that supported my interpretation that Jesus being the FIRST BORN of every creature doesn't mean Jesus was the FIRST CREATED BEING but "Jesus is SUPREME OVER CREATURE"

It is Watchtower that deluded you to believe Jesus being the FIRST BORN means Jesus was FIRST CREATED.

So, the screenshot I provided didn't say Jesus was the FIRST CREATED BEING rather the screenshot evidence claimed Jesus is supreme and CREATOR.

Now , you are LYING on this public forum.

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Lying liar JaNosense.

Provide the screenshot where I posted that claimed Jesus is first born of all creatures to mean Jesus was the first created being.

Everyone can see you're the lying liar here.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:28pm On Mar 16, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Innocent until proven guilty.

Answer the questions set before you and prove your innocence!

If not, your silence will be taken as being guilty 🙃!!!
Don't mind the liar.

Watchtower translation called NWT intentionally ADDED some words in other to change the author intent.

For instance, in other to support the doctrine of Jehovah created Jesus first and then used Jesus to create other things. The word "OTHER" was inserted to change the true meaning of that verse.

Compare this translation: CEV - "Everything was created by him, everything in heaven and on earth, everything seen and unseen, including all forces and powers, and all rulers and authorities. All things were created by God's Son, and everything was made for him."

To Watchtower NWT: "because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him."
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:20pm On Mar 16, 2025
Janosky:
As e dey sweet us nah so e dey pain dem wellenly. grin grin grin
Let them say "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" but who are they?
Religionists belonging to no group! wink
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 12:19am On Mar 17, 2025
Aemmyjah: Just ignore that ignoramus
cornelboy: you remain a pathetic liar 😹🤣🤣
Janosky: empty headed dunce kid capping rubbish.
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MaxInDHouse: Are you been stupid or you are just pretending?
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Janosky: Illiterate LYING pastor
LYING illiterate pastor grin grin grin
Janosky: Illiterate LYING pastor
LYING pastor stop deceiving yourself.
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so called Jehovah's witnesses don't come to your door like this,
insulting and laughing insanely as fools:

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 
Mat 7:16  You will know them by their fruits.
^^ their fruits: lying, falsely accusing, insults, insane behaviour, blasphemy, paranoia, puffed up pride, etc.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by RealityKings1: 12:28am On Mar 17, 2025
StillDtruth:
Yet he struggled to overcome Satan meanwhile Jesus blew off Satan in one simple breath.

You are talking rubbish
Satan is a force to reckon with. He is highly regarded
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 9:21am On Mar 17, 2025
Emusan:
Don't mind the liar.

Watchtower translation called NWT intentionally ADDED some words in other to change the author intent.

For instance, in other to support the doctrine of Jehovah created Jesus first and then used Jesus to create other things. The word "OTHER" was inserted to change the true meaning of that verse.

Compare this translation: CEV - "Everything was created by him, everything in heaven and on earth, everything seen and unseen, including all forces and powers, and all rulers and authorities. All things were created by God's Son, and everything was made for him."

To Watchtower NWT: "because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible,+ whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him+ and for him."
Their own Bible translators ADDED "Himself God " @ John 1:18 & ADDED "OTHER" @ Luke 13:2, ADDED "hell" to Psalms 9:17 & Mark 9:43-48, to CHANGE THE TRUE MEANING of these verses,Emusan LYING miscreant wasn't WAILING.
Oga,Your Hypocrisy stinks.
Emusan OPONU WAILING hypocrite.

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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 9:26am On Mar 17, 2025
johnw47:
so called Jehovah's witnesses don't come to your door like this,
insulting and laughing insanely as fools:

Mat 7:15  Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 
Mat 7:16  You will know them by their fruits.
^^ their fruits: lying, falsely accusing, insults, insane behaviour, blasphemy, paranoia, puffed up pride, etc.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
You joined your fellow Trinitarians to insult & defame my person & character but now you are forming sanctimonious.
John W, Carry your hypocrisy go flush your toilet.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky:
Emusan:
Provide just one.

Bible says Jesus is the FIRST BORN OF ALL CREATURES.

I provided evidence that supported my interpretation that Jesus being the FIRST BORN of every creature doesn't mean Jesus was the FIRST CREATED BEING but "Jesus is SUPREME OVER CREATURE"

It is Watchtower that deluded you to believe Jesus being the FIRST BORN means Jesus was FIRST CREATED.

So, the screenshot I provided didn't say Jesus was the FIRST CREATED BEING rather the screenshot evidence claimed Jesus is supreme and CREATOR.

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Emusan LYING miscreant, the circled portion of your screenshot you are denying. grin
Emusan post:
"Jesus is also the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created. Jesus is the beginning of all creation."
Every first born by right is supreme over his siblings, Genesis 49:3.
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Emusan:

Lying liar JaNosense.

Provide the screenshot where I posted that claimed Jesus is first born of all creatures to mean Jesus was the first created being.

Everyone can see you're the lying liar here.
Emusan go swallow bone wey chook am. grin grin
Emusan LYING miscreant, please quote the circled portion of your screenshot.
Emusan post:
"Jesus is also the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created. Jesus is the beginning of all creation."
Shame on you Emusan LYING & denying your screenshot evidence on this forum.
Emusan repent from your folly.

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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 11:01am On Mar 17, 2025
Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant, the circled portion of your screenshot you are denying. grin
Emusan post:
"Jesus is also the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created. Jesus is the beginning of all creation."
Every first born by right is supreme over his siblings, Genesis 49:3.
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Emusan go swallow bone wey chook am. grin grin
Emusan LYING miscreant, please quote the circled portion of your screenshot.
Emusan post:
"Jesus is also the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created. Jesus is the beginning of all creation."
Shame on you Emusan LYING & denying your screenshot evidence on this forum.
Emusan repent from your folly.

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Oponu JaNosense the lying liar like your father the Devil.

The portion you cherry pick (circle) in that screenshot is very clear and sound, that is why I do say your skull is empty.

The AI is explaining the meaning of "The first born of all creatures"

Started with "This phrase has TWO MEANINGS:"

The AI then provided the two meanings in which you just circle ONE.

Why didn't you circle the first MEANING?
because that one exposed your lying mouth.

Meanwhile, the AI then conclude that:

In essence, this verse is saying that Jesus Christ is:

1. Perfect reflection of God's nature and character
2. SUPREME OVER CREATURE
3. the Creator and SUSTAINER OF ALL CREATURES.


Which part of that screenshot you're still struggling with JaNosense?

Which means, the second meaning you're blindingly choosing isn't the RIGHT INTERPRETATION OF THAT VERSE.

Oponu JaNosense the lying liar cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 11:04am On Mar 17, 2025
Janosky:
Their own Bible translators ADDED "Himself God " @ John 1:18 & ADDED "OTHER" @ Luke 13:2, ADDED "hell" to Psalms 9:17 & Mark 9:43-48, to CHANGE THE TRUE MEANING of these verses,Emusan LYING miscreant wasn't WAILING.
Oga,Your Hypocrisy stinks.
Emusan OPONU WAILING hypocrite.

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Which means our own Bible and that of Watchtower commit the same fraudulent insertion, do you agree? cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:27pm On Mar 17, 2025
Janosky:
Emusan LYING miscreant, the circled portion of your screenshot you are denying. grin
Emusan post:
"Jesus is also the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created. Jesus is the beginning of all creation."
Every first born by right is supreme over his siblings, Genesis 49:3.
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Emusan go swallow bone wey chook am. grin grin
Emusan LYING miscreant, please quote the circled portion of your screenshot.
Emusan post:
"Jesus is also the first born in the sense of being the first to be born or created. Jesus is the beginning of all creation."
Shame on you Emusan LYING & denying your screenshot evidence on this forum.
Emusan repent from your folly.

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He just love exchanging hurtful words.

Why paste that yet continue arguing just to have chances of insulting Jehovah's Witnesses? huh
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 12:30pm On Mar 17, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
He just love exchanging hurtful words.

Why paste that yet continue arguing just to have chances of insulting Jehovah's Witnesses? huh
Hypocrite!

Who started the use of the so called "hurtful words"?

I'm happy you feel so hurt with my posts. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:36pm On Mar 17, 2025
Emusan:
Hypocrite!
Who started the use of the so called "hurtful words"?
I'm happy you feel so hurt with my posts. cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Leave hurtful words aside for now.
Do you agree with your own screenshot that Jesus was CREATED? smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 12:40pm On Mar 17, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Leave hurtful words aside for now.
Do you give yourself the same advice?

Do you agree with your own screenshot that Jesus was CREATED? smiley
The screenshot is self explanatory and I even tried to bring it down to the level of your deluded brother because I know he is empty upstair.

So check my explanation above.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:48pm On Mar 17, 2025
Emusan:
The screenshot is self explanatory.
Thank you.
Jesus is the first CREATURE God used to create all other creatures! Colossians 1:15
May you have peace!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 1:04pm On Mar 17, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Thank you.
Jesus is the first CREATURE God used to create all other creatures! Colossians 1:15
May you have peace!
Where did you see that in the screenshot?
Just as Grok puts it:

Overall Meaning:
"This passage is a hymn-like declaration of Christ’s supremacy. He’s not just a good teacher or prophet—He’s the divine Son of God, creator and sustainer of the universe, and the risen Lord of the church. Paul wrote this to counter false teachings in Colossae that diminished Jesus, reminding believers of His unmatched authority and glory. It’s a call to worship and trust Him above all else."


Watchtower are part of Colossae Paul was addressing in those verses.

It happened in the 1st century reason why God has to used Paul to pen that down so that people like you can read.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by StillDtruth: 2:40pm On Mar 17, 2025
RealityKings1:
Satan is a force to reckon with. He is highly regarded
And Jesus blew him off, one time, no struggles, no cabashing, no stress; easy peasy

While Angel Michael struggled and tossled with him
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 3:26pm On Mar 17, 2025
StillDtruth:
And Jesus blew him off, one time, no struggles, no cabashing, no stress; easy peasy

While Angel Michael struggled and tossled with him


Still D dunce done chook him MUMU into social media & pretend it's in his Bible.
"Archangel Michael struggled & tussled/ Jesus blew him off one time " no dey Greek manuscript.
Carry your wayo komot from this public forum.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 3:39pm On Mar 17, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
That's a lie, because according to you God used Jesus to create the Angels🤔
Hence The whole of creation belongs to Jesus😉.

It's just the goodwill of the son to make the whole of creation know the Father🤨.
1 Corinthians 3:23
"You belong to Christ.
Christ belongs to God".

Gabrielshow24 faithless miscreant:
"That's a lie."

This is the reason we call these Trinitarians faithless miscreants.
They show ZERO belief in the holy scriptures.
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