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Gerrard59:
What I mean is: someone did MSc Business Analytics at a university in the UK. Unfortunately, due to visa issues and fierce competition, s/he cannot get a job in the industry or sister-industries or role aligned to Business Analytics. My question is: isn't it better for the person to apply to jobs in Nigeria that require someone with such skills and degree rather than settle for care jobs in the UK?

Intent matters. Many individuals who pursue degrees abroad are more interested in the opportunity to travel rather than the actual field of study. For them, staying in the UK is the priority, not necessarily securing a job in their specialized industry. That’s why they are willing to settle for any job, including care roles, just to remain in the country rather than returning to Nigeria to seek relevant opportunities. Those that return already knew they were not interested in settling in the UK.

Virginkpekus:
Why don't you come back home na

I've returned. You can go and take my space.

Atk1nson:
That guy is a guy with almost zero ambition and very little character to thrive but a big mouth for nagging.

From the first UK thread he open I did tell him he was heading for a bare-mimimum living in the UK and its not surprising how it turned out for him

People can be comfortable with the bare minimum and I see nothing wrong with that. Everyone’s circumstances and priorities are different.
At the end of the day, what matters is personal fulfillment and making choices that align with one’s goals and situation.
You can also create a thread and share your ambitious history.

tunapawizzy:
No. 1, your income shows you and your wife do not have skills that can command good income. But even at that and your wife working just 2 days and you working 4 days, you said you guys can still save 500pounds, that is 1million naira, Tell yourself the truth if you and your wife dey nigeria, will you guys save 1million naira per month as a family , with the skill u have and the job u will be able to do in Nigeria. Will you have access to the kind of facilities u have access to in UK.
you send 150pounds back home every month, the people u send that 150pounds to every month, if u dey Nigeria will u be able to give them 300k naira every month.

Oga you and your wife work minimum wage(which means there is room for growth if you upskill with time), you work 4 days a week, your wife works 2 days a week and you guys are still sending 300 thousand naira home every month and saving 500pounds(approx 1m naira) every month. Now let's not even convert to Naira, una fit save 6k pounds per year, while working 54 hours a week(between u and your wife)...if that is not good enough, please tell us what u guys were doing and earning in nigeria before u left

It's funny how you're analyzing his income and savings instead of you to develop yourself.
Developing valuable skills isn’t as simple as it sounds. It takes time, effort, and access to the right opportunities. I was one of the first Nigerians to obtain a certification that gave me many opportunities years ago but today that same certification is taking you nowhere.
You also need to understand that not everyone has the same learning curve or resources to develop themselves. I'm of the school of though that if you're good, you're good. Nigeria has it's challenges but it's not responsible for the excuses that people ascribe to it.

fullclub:
Waiting period for Germany is not here unless u going for PhD. And u need POF of 12k euro which is over 20m locked and release to u on monthly basis

Was expecting u to list Portugal, spain and Italy

When i said Austria and Germany i knew what i was talking about ( I`v been Austrian citizen for almost 3 decades), i am talking from experience not assumption and the core of my initial writeup is being able to settle in within a maximum of 4 months without any pressure after relocation on a student visa to either of the 2 listed countries.

Nothing sensational about Germany`s block account , you won`t even need to take a penny out of it because you will surely have settled in with your initial 8M naira budget and be earning enough on your 20hrs/week student job. Added to that the 12k euros will just be wasted in paying tuition fee for one mushroom school in the UK.

I would`nt say Spain, Portugal or Italy because i never lived there before and don`t know the reality of the place, i only say what i am 100% sure of.

Originalsly:
A friend of mine got visa and was super anxious to travel. I advised him not to rush to travel because of the cold ...winter...wait until late Spring or better ...summer. ..that winter requires appropriate clothing which is not cheap and can't be used on his return. He said he loves the cold ... used to A/C. His choice...he travelled. Spent a month locked in where he was staying ...watching TV and looking through the window. ....he didn't expect it to be so cold.

If you fail to prepare ...prepare to fail.

Your post reminds me of an incident when I took a friend from Canada on mountain climbing, he was claiming that he's very strong and rugged. At 2k feet, he started vomiting and shivering. I still remind him till today.

Nazgul:
That's because she travelled to the US without any degree or skill.

I have a cousin in the US who sends me links of jobs in America. Do you know that out of every 5 jobs I apply to 4 would reach out to me telling me that they can't hire me because of my location.

So if I happen to be there, I should be able to get at least 2 jobs to begin with.

This is possible because I have a very rich CV. So once any prospective recruiter looks at it, he'll definitely want to reach out.

A lot of Nigerians travel out with incomplete papers, zero or poor academic records and no skill at all. So they usually find it very difficult in getting a job. Cos no cooperate firm in the US would hire you if you lack the skill and qualifications they need.

If they really want you they will sponsor you. There are many Nigerians who work remotely for foreign companies. It's very easy to be in Nigeria say you'll get 10 jobs except you're in a high-demand field.

Nazgul:
Like I said. My post isn't for countries like UK and Canada. I understand that those countries are seriously overcrowded. So getting good jobs there is going to be a herculean task. My post is for the US only.

If you're highly qualified most especially in tech, you can comfortably run 2 (or more) jobs concurrently.

It's all about your niche and your skill.

It's good to have the right mindset but the truth is if you're good enough for any company, they'll sponsor you or create a job for you. The US has the best talents in the world and that makes it more competitive than any other country. RTO is also making it difficult to do multiple jobs.

Mcslize:
Brother, you just opened my eyes. Wow. No wonder some people said they are having 2 to 3 houses abroad. So, this is how they do it. I am saving this. You see how smart some people think? Most people mind won't even reason towards this aspect. With this, you don't need to worry about not meeting up cuz others are paying and you are using what they pay to settle the mortgage bit by bit. This is an eye opener.

You're very funny . What if no one rents the house? If you can't afford the mortgage without the rental income, you will be in a precarious situation. Half baked information from you brother.

erico2k2:
this IS BASED OB ASSUMPTION, HAVE YOU ANY CLUE OF HOWMANY TYPES OF NURSES THERE ARE??

There are many areas and specialities in nursing just as in medicine, but it is not a lucrative career. For citizens from developing countries who work in developed countries, I can understand why. But head to head between developed countries, nursing is not universally a lucrative career. In the US? Yes. In most other countries? No.

Gerrard59:
If he was truly an assistant branch manager, then he's mad for relocating to the UK to work in care. The talk about his yearly earnings are baseless since his expenses are in pounds. He earns in pounds and spends in pounds. His STANDARD OF LIVING was way higher in Nigeria as an ASSISTANT BRANCH MANAGER not as a SUPPORT CARE WORKER.

not everyone japa to make money

erico2k2:
Oga relax, nah because U never see money, living in a standard way of leafe is expenssive in Nigeria,look at cost of fuel,proper pot of soup can cost you 100k at least.If you are a guy with three kids and a wife 1m monthly nor reach, plus y

u just Dey ur palor decide say I never see money.i hope u know money is what u call it.na why Dangote still Dey find am.eveeybody on nairaland is not a university undergraduate.i Dey always warn una.I have 4kids and they are all above 10.i have 4 cars but I use 2 majorly.I don’t know how u and ur wife use 100k to make a pot of soup.maybe una Dey cook crocodile.Life ma planning.i have fuel efficient cars,me and my wife do about 30k fuel each on our cars weekly.Ofcourse I am not a tennat so rent is no longer my issue.i also do bulk purchases on Everyting so I don’t feel so much on food prices.i no Dey go market go buy meat 20k.we stock up meat once in 3 months.Who no fit survive with 1m for Nigeria will fail abroad.Abroad is harder than Nigeria I have also travelled much more than u.in my early years I lived abroad.na abroad I make all my money.life ma planing bros.take it to the bank.

studyless123:
If they really want you they will sponsor you. There are many Nigerians who work remotely for foreign companies. It's very easy to be in Nigeria say you'll get 10 jobs except you're in a high-demand field.

Bro, Nigeria doesn't fall into countries the US considers as potential hubs for sourcing out professionals. However countries like China, India and most professionals in western Europe fall into this category.

If you carry out a study you'd discover that less than 15% of Nigerians have actually benefitted from this scheme. Reason being that our education system isn't amongst the top rated worldwide.

So telling a Nigerian living in Nigeria to keep applying that if he's good enough an American company would sponsor his trip over there to work is not a realistic objective. The best is to move over there, complete your Msc, and get a good job.

studyless123:
People can be comfortable with the bare minimum and I see nothing wrong with that. Everyone’s circumstances and priorities are different.
At the end of the day, what matters is personal fulfillment and making choices that align with one’s goals and situation.
You can also create a thread and share your ambitious history.

You are either an alternate account of the op, or you struggle with comprehension.

The guy could have clearly stated that he lacked ambition which is why he has no driving licence and lives on the bare minimum rather than suggesting its the norm.

For all I care, he can quit work and live in food banks where he stays, but he should be clear on why.

OChimex:
I can't find the email.
It has to be email to email

Of course I wrote you on the email you gave me.

Atk1nson:
Your lack of openness to learning and continuous nagging is what is limiting your growth in the country, no offense intended. I noticed it from your first thread and its not surprising this is how you find the country.

It makes very little sense for someone on your income level to spend so much on calls/data. Ask around.

What the hell do you do with data while you are away from home that consumes 10-15 gig a month. Also, most places in the UK have guest wifi, be it trains, buses, workplaces...why will you then spend £45 a month when you can do 2 sims for £12 and have a broadband at home for unlimited data.

The UK mortgage thread is one if the very active threads in the travel section. Go and read through and you will realise many people there bought their first house in the country within 2-3 years there. They didnt do that on £11 per hour job and they are not a small privileged minority as you are fond of suggesting, else the thread will not be so active.

https://www.nairaland.com/7534564/living-uk-propertymortgage-related/65

Also, if you think paying rent is better than paying a mortgage, your ignorance is deeper than I initial though.

The fact that according to you, working minimum wage job, doing basic hours and your wife working minimal hours and minimum wage job, you can still afford to send £150 (N300k) monthly, save £100 from your end and £700 from your wife (about N1.6M) monthly, you cannot sense there is a big window of opportunity in the country to thrive which nigeria would not afford you, you clearly are the problem, not the country

Bro it’s clear that you don’t understand where this man is coming from , the reason why you Dey throw banta. If you have been to the Uk you will realize 10-15gb is nothing. Absolutely nothing na naija we Dey value data. Here data na water of course you connect in train station and bus . bt what if technical glitch occur or it’s not available on that particular bus you entered. He be like say you never lost before if not you will never step outside your home without having data on your phone. The man is making sense.

I use Three network £12 unlimited monthly. and for my wife same , my home broadband is £22 monthly too making =£46 monthly na so we Dey pay am. Why you go Dey even think of 10gb for uk when unlimited is as cheap as it shoud be.

Also concerning the minimum wage im sure op can up his game and look for another job that pays higher. It’s much easier to save if your job pays higher even if na 40hrs you do you can still save like £1k convinientlt after your expenses and hmrc. Those work Dey yapa.

OChimex:
Absolutely, dude.
But the point is, Obodo oyibo no be moi moi. If you can't keep up with the level there, no try go there, else you will feel overwhelmed and depressed.
But, nothing is too difficult here. The problem is, you must try first.

Exactly.... That's the point am trying to make... Employment isn't flowing like a fountain.... But there are better opportunities than here

tensazangetsu20:
The person has her green card sponsored by her mother so she has full rights to work yet she still no make am

Even without degrees or skills, she could apply for any vocational training as an apprentice.. Green card is a gold mine with a lot of privileges. How does one have a green card in the US and not know what to do. There's more to the story that meets the eye.

Atk1nson:
You are either an alternate account of the op, or you struggle with comprehension.

The guy could have clearly stated that he lacked ambition which is why he has no driving licence and lives on the bare minimum rather than suggesting its the norm.

For all I care, he can quit work and live in food banks where he stays, but he should be clear on why.

All you do is respond with anger. All i said is the fact.

So take a back sit

Atk1nson:
You are either an alternate account of the op, or you struggle with comprehension.

The guy could have clearly stated that he lacked ambition which is why he has no driving licence and lives on the bare minimum rather than suggesting its the norm.

For all I care, he can quit work and live in food banks where he stays, but he should be clear on why.

O why are you throwing personal attacks on the opp? Why diverting from what he stated. I have gone through the receipt he posted and are as follows:

Water bill 43 pounds.
House rent 700 pounds
Phone bill 50+
Council tax 120 abi 100
And others.
Are u saying he is lying about this? He also postrd his salary. Are u saying he is lying?
U are diverting from main issue. I will like u to also do your own. How much u earn and saved.
Is it a must to have driver's license before u make it?
Its all a learning platform not kill our selves

FBIBOT:
Exactly.... That's the point am trying to make... Employment isn't flowing like a fountain.... But there are better opportunities than here

Movement is flowing okay.
You can change jobs like crazy 🤪.
I did. Every month for 3 months until I got what I wanted

FBIBOT:
Exactly.... That's the point am trying to make... Employment isn't flowing like a fountain.... But there are better opportunities than here

Job flows like river
You can change jobs like crazy 🤪.
I did. Every month for 3 months until I got what I wanted

The truth is, in Nigeria, the work ethics are terrible, the orientation is awful so when they move abroad, it affects them badly. And when they have no option other than doing things the right way, it pisses them off. Lol

studyless123:
Thanks for sharing your views. We need others to share their experiences as well. This has been lacking on this platform.

As you know your posts will be subjected to public criticism so don't post in public forums if you cannot handle criticism.

I wish you the very best.

The fact is that the person here is using his unpreparedness to face life outside Nigeria to advise others. He's discouraging others from leaving because of his own personal failings. Months from now, he'll come back to open another thread and begin to wail again. Nobody should take him seriously.

samuelson06:
The fact is that the person here is using his unpreparedness to face life outside Nigeria to advise others. He's discouraging others from leaving because of his own personal failings. Months from now, he'll come back to open another thread and begin to wail again. Nobody should take him seriously.

Who discourage u? Did i complain that i don't have a job?
I am full time working anf footing my bills. I am sharing insights on how the system drains all you have.
Once u earn within 2000 before tax and below then you will struggle with bills except you decide to leave a frugal lifestyle.
Driver's license don't stop u from getting a job people make use of public transport here.. White and black.
Beside this page is to document my journey wgich i embark. Each 6 months i will evaluate and open new page here. The last one was about my graduation. Then this is about work lifestyle and savings.

Be prepared to see more of this and i wont add sugar.

My next thread will be in December then i will sum all i could saved and deducted expenses then document it on my account here

highchief1:
u just Dey ur palor decide say I never see money.i hope u know money is what u call it.na why Dangote still Dey find am.eveeybody on nairaland is not a university undergraduate.i Dey always warn una.I have 4kids and they are all above 10.i have 4 cars but I use 2 majorly.I don’t know how u and ur wife use 100k to make a pot of soup.maybe una Dey cook crocodile.Life ma planning.i have fuel efficient cars,me and my wife do about 30k fuel each on our cars weekly.Ofcourse I am not a tennat so rent is no longer my issue.i also do bulk purchases on Everyting so I don’t feel so much on food prices.i no Dey go market go buy meat 20k.we stock up meat once in 3 months.Who no fit survive with 1m for Nigeria will fail abroad.Abroad is harder than Nigeria I have also travelled much more than u.in my early years I lived abroad.na abroad I make all my money.life ma planing bros.take it to the bank.

Bros Calm down<I was basically stating a fact, Im not talking about your own person.Una too dey do

fullclub:
Who discourage u? Did i complain that i don't have a job?
I am full time working anf footing my bills. I am sharing insights on how the system drains all you have.
Once u earn within 2000 before tax and below then you will struggle with bills except you decide to leave a frugal lifestyle.
Driver's license don't stop u from getting a job people make use of public transport here.. White and black.
Beside this page is to document my journey wgich i embark. Each 6 months i will evaluate and open new page here. The last one was about my graduation. Then this is about work lifestyle and savings.

Be prepared to see more of this and i wont add sugar.

My next thread will be in December then i will sum all i could saved and deducted expenses then document it on my account here

Answer the queston boss, how do you pay £700 for a room and still pay council tax and water bills

samuelson06:
The fact is that the person here is using his unpreparedness to face life outside Nigeria to advise others. He's discouraging others from leaving because of his own personal failings. Months from now, he'll come back to open another thread and begin to wail again. Nobody should take him seriously.

And those are not even facts.

Gerrard59:
There are many areas and specialities in nursing just as in medicine, but it is not a lucrative career. For citizens from developing countries who work in developed countries, I can understand why. But head to head between developed countries, nursing is not universally a lucrative career. In the US? Yes. In most other countries? No.

Have any Idea a scrub nurse gets paid?

OkanlawonB:
I have been Austrian citizen for almost 3 decades.

Nice one mayB you can give us some insight as I visit not lived there,Can you please give me a ratio of to this,
Is it easy for a Nigerian to be a Prison officer, or a train driver or a police/immigration officer?

fullclub:
A security or a cleaner will earn same or almost the same with NHS nurse at the end of the month

Depends on the type of Nurse

fullclub:
Who discourage u? Did i complain that i don't have a job?
I am full time working anf footing my bills. I am sharing insights on how the system drains all you have.
Once u earn within 2000 before tax and below then you will struggle with bills except you decide to leave a frugal lifestyle.
Driver's license don't stop u from getting a job people make use of public transport here.. White and black.
Beside this page is to document my journey wgich i embark. Each 6 months i will evaluate and open new page here. The last one was about my graduation. Then this is about work lifestyle and savings.

Be prepared to see more of this and i wont add sugar.

My next thread will be in December then i will sum all i could saved and deducted expenses then document it on my account here

You lie in your stories. They've not been encouraging, especially when you try to make reference to other people to buttress your points. Again, when you tell your story, put a caveat about why your experience isn't conforming to those of average Nigerians. Don't present it like an ideal situation for any typical Black person coming into the country.

You had opportunity back here to guide others achieve success but you refused. Now, you are trying to paint a picture of trying to help others who intend to leave, albeit laced with lies. Who pays house rent in the UK and also pay all those separate bills when it's part of the house rent in the first place? You think you're the only Nairalander in the UK, right?

Mcslize:
Well said. Which country are in currently?

Taiwan