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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:29pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I'm using terms that reasonable persons will understand.
God is a Spirit {John 4:24} so whatever he showed anyone is his glory! smiley
So the glory of God is also God.

Why can't the same glory be recorded as SEEING GOD FACE TO FACE?

Now, you equate this same GLORY to be AN ANGEL.

IS GOD'S GLORY AND ANGEL the same?

You see, John 1:18 is talking about different thing not about GOD REVEALING HIMSELF TO PEOPLE.

Is that not what I said?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:29pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Why do you think they rejected Jesus?

Ọmọ they practiced spiritism which led to their people being possessed by those demons.

They prefer to have those demons than to be free from them because such demons are useful for their practices! wink
That's fallacious to say! 😂😂😂
Hence rejecting Jesus meant they practiced spiritism? 🤔
Am not sure you know the meaning of the word 😂😂😂
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:30pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
The scripture says there's are legions of Angels. because God's word never mentioned their names, do you mean they don't exist?
Gabrielshow24:
Absence of evidence is not evidence itself😂😂😂.
How can you not see that!
I can conclude they were mentioned along with the plural word "angels" 😂😂😂
We only stick to what is found in God's word! John 17:17 smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:32pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
We only stick to what is found in God's word! John 17:17 smiley
😂😂😂that's a good rule of thumb.
And it should have guided you not to make that ridiculous statement 😂😂😂.

You seem to imply that God has just two angels🤔 and yet he calls himself the Lord of hosts!😂😂😂

Think before you type
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:34pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
That's fallacious to say! 😂😂😂
Hence rejecting Jesus meant they practiced spiritism? 🤔
Am not sure you know the meaning of the word 😂😂😂
Go to Jerusalem today and see how Jews pray in different angelic names that's why Paul told them:

For example, to which one of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father”? And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”? Hebrews 1:5

The only name given that we should use in prayer is Jesus not even Michael since that's not the name we were given! Act 4:12

I'm TEACHING you guys the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you are reading in God's word! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:36pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂that's a good rule of thumb.
And it should have guided you not to make that ridiculous statement 😂😂😂.

You seem to imply that God has just two angels🤔 and yet he calls himself the Lord of hosts!😂😂😂

Think before you type
Only two names were mentioned in God's word regarding angels:
Michael and Gabriel! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:36pm On Mar 18, 2025
Truthseeker10:
So If The Word "Adam" refers to person and nature, how does it correlate to John 1:1?
It will help you to understand your confusion below.

So are you saying that The WOMAN(person) who is MAN(NATURE) is with MAN(NATURE)?
No! I'm simply saying "The woman(person) who is MAN(NATURE) is with MAN(person).

Remember, your first question was, how can the word(God) be with (God).

This shows, you're confusing the usage of the word GOD in John 1:1

Please what translation uses "THE GOD" and "GOD" in John 1:1 because the Kjv does not use it?

King James Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was [b]with God
, and the Word was God

New King James Version
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
KJV might not use it for grammatical accuracy but the word used by the writer in Greek shows the word was with THE GOD is different from God who the word is.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:37pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
We only stick to what is found in God's word! John 17:17 smiley
Is it not the same God's word that says THERE ARE LEGIONS OF ANGELS?

You want to dodge my question cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:38pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Only two names were mentioned in God's word regarding angels:
Michael and Gabriel! smiley
Good you know.
They were mentioned specifically!
Others were mentioned collectively 🤨.

Except if your own heaven is made up of two angels😂😂😂!!!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:40pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Go to Jerusalem today and see how Jews pray in different angelic names that's why Paul told them:

For example, to which one of the angels did God ever say: “You are my son; today I have become your father”? And again: “I will become his father, and he will become my son”? Hebrews 1:5

The only name given that we should use in prayer is Jesus not even Michael since that's not the name we were given! Act 4:12

I'm TEACHING you guys the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you are reading in God's word! smiley
Oponu, "practical application"🤨
It's still all theoretical!

Thank God, you said it's Jesus not Michael.
God saved you from my ✋ hand😂😂😂.
Just like you said, we also stick to what the bible says in the form that Jesus is not Michael 😂😂😂!!!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:40pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Only two names were mentioned in God's word regarding angels:
Michael and Gabriel! smiley
So only Michael and Gabriel are the Angels Jehovah created?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 6:41pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
It will help you to understand your confusion below.



No! I'm simply saying "The woman(person) who is MAN(NATURE) is with MAN(person).

Remember, your first question was, how can the word(God) be with (God).

This shows, you're confusing the usage of the word GOD in John 1:1
I am only explaining John 1:1 with a diagram that I showed you that you claim was correct. The diagram clearly shows that God is the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit.



KJV might not use it for grammatical accuracy but the word used by the writer in Greek shows the word was with THE GOD is different from the God who the word is.
What is the grammatical accuracy that the king James version is not using it for?


According to the diagram that I showed you, How many "GOD"(nature) is presented in the Diagram?
Is The word "God"(nature) used as person in the Diagram?

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
Is it not the same God's word that says THERE ARE LEGIONS OF ANGELS?
You want to dodge my question cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin
So how do you distinguish the names of demons from angels if you welcome all names from different books? smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:48pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Good you know.
They were mentioned specifically!
Others were mentioned collectively 🤨.
Except if your own heaven is made up of two angels😂😂😂!!!
Stick to the names revealed in God's word or you will start having dealings with DEMONS! 2Corinthians 11:14 wink
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:49pm On Mar 18, 2025
Truthseeker10:
I am only explaining John 1:1 with a diagram that I showed you that you claim was correct. The diagram clearly shows that God is the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit.
Good to know you understand now.

What is the grammatical accuracy that the king James version is not using it for?
The Greek word used in the second part where "The word was with God" shows there's a definite article THE in front.

According to the diagram that I showed you, How many "GOD"(nature) presented in the Diagram?
Just ONE.

Is The word "God"(nature) used as person in the Diagram?
No!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:49pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Oponu, "practical application"🤨
It's still all theoretical!
Thank God, you said it's Jesus not Michael.
God saved you from my ✋ hand😂😂😂.
Just like you said, we also stick to what the bible says in the form that Jesus is not Michael 😂😂😂!!!
Ọmọ Michael is his name in his prehuman existence but after his earthly mission he now bears Jesus and that's the only name given through which we can be saved! wink
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:50pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
So only Michael and Gabriel are the Angels Jehovah created?
Names revealed in God's word! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:51pm On Mar 18, 2025
Both of them are shocked to know that any other names found elsewhere about angels belongs to demons! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:52pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Stick to the names revealed in God's word or you will start having dealings with DEMONS! 2Corinthians 11:14 wink
You should take your own advise😂😂😂!!!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:54pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Michael is his name in his prehuman existence but after his earthly mission he now bears Jesus and that's the only name given through which we can be saved! wink
😂😂😂
Prehuman existence of Jesus was called the Word of God!!!

Not Michael 😂😂😂
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:54pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So how do you distinguish the names of demons from angels if you welcome all names from different books? smiley
That's not the point, you're claiming you're following God's word and the same God's word shows there are legions of Angels.

True or false?

Scripture talks about Angel visitation where their names are not mentioned.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:55pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
You should take your own advise😂😂😂!!!
We pray only in Jesus name it's deeper understanding that shows he was called Michael in his prehuman existence that doesn't change the fact that he was an angel in heaven before coming to earth.

That nobody can refute using God's word so it's better you stick to your Trinity doctrine but if it's God's word the man Jesus was an angel before coming here! wink
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 6:55pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
Good to know you understand now.



Greek word used in the second part where "The word was with God" shows there's a definite article THE in front.[



Just ONE.



No!
So why was "The God" not put in the king James version? Even if it was put, are you saying that "THE GOD" appears in the Diagram that i showed you and that it only refers to The Father?

If you agree that the Diagram has only one "GOD" as nature, where did you see "GOD" as person in the Diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:55pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Names revealed in God's word! smiley
Good!

But there are other angels that Bible did not mentioned their names.

Do you agree?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:56pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
That's not the point, you're claiming you're following God's word and the same God's word shows there are legions of Angels.
True or false?
Scripture talks about Angel visitation where their names are not mentioned.
Do you want to agree with what God's word revealed or magical books? smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:57pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Both of them are shocked to know that any other names found elsewhere about angels belongs to demons! smiley
The same way any other name of christians found elsewhere are demons🤨?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:57pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
Good!
But there are other angels that Bible did not mentioned their names.
Do you agree?
Perfectly but then we must stick to the names mentioned in God's word! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
The same way any other name of christians found elsewhere are demons🤨?
Have i ever called humans demons before! cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 6:59pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
We pray only in Jesus name it's deeper understanding that shows he was called Michael in his prehuman existence that doesn't change the fact that he was an angel in heaven before coming to earth.

That nobody can refute using God's word so it's better you stick to your Trinity doctrine but if it's God's word the man Jesus was an angel before coming here! wink
It's mutually exclusive for him to be "an angel" and the word of God.
Lest I remind you, your colleague alludes that Jesus created the universe 👀!!!

Hence your conclusion is based on faulty assumptions.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 7:00pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Have i ever called humans demons before! cheesy
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
So far your name was not mentioned in the bible, then it's not worth knowing!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 7:01pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Perfectly but then we must stick to the names mentioned in God's word! smiley
Why then the previous elusion?😂😂😂
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:02pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
It's mutually exclusive for him to be "an angel" and the word of God.
Lest I remind you, your colleague alludes that Jesus created the universe 👀!!!
Hence your conclusion is based on faulty assumptions.
Diversion!

Only Michael and Gabriel are names God revealed to mankind among all His angels!
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