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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:04pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
This is what most of you don't know about us!

We don't command or condemn people's behavior rather we appeal to them lovingly.
Hypocrite!

Your post show, you condemned people here about their abusive words.

Which you never mentioned about your deluded brother who is doing the same.

So don't expect me to start insulting or abusing Janosky for the way and manner he's responding to you that's between you and him
Can you what I'm saying now?

Who said you should start ABUSING HIM?

Have you ever condemned him for using those words is what I'm asking you?

If you like, be pretending online so that you don't want people to know that JWs do disagree with each other.

i can only appeal to him as my own brother to calmly addressed you not command him! smiley
So where have you ever APPEAL TO HIM ON THIS FORUM.

BRING YOUR EVIDENCE....
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:07pm On Mar 18, 2025
Truthseeker10:
which is specific....John 1:1 is not specific it uses The God which The son is part of.
How do you know the son is part of THE GOD?

That question is for you. How many The God(person) do we have according to the diagram that i showed you?
No! It's not for me answer my question.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:09pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
So where have you ever APPEAL TO HIM ON THIS FORUM.
BRING YOUR EVIDENCE....
Perhaps you need to read this again but this time slowly and try to assimilate then you will see how tactful Jehovah's Witnesses deal with matters! smiley

MaxInDHouse:
I've maintained politeness with Emusan, the other Gabriel guy can't discuss without adding insults but i look away since they both claim you are the cause why they can't discuss with us without resorting to abusive speeches. smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 9:09pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
How do you know the son is part of THE GOD?
Are you denying The God refers to person in which The son is also a person?



No! It's not for me answer my question.
it is your question to answer. How many The God is present in the Diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:11pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Perhaps you need to read this again but this time slowly and try to assimilate then you will see how tactful Jehovah's Witnesses deal with matters! smiley
Is that how you have been calling people out for using abusive words?

Hypocrite!

Tell him to his face, stop using abusive words.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:13pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
Is that how you have been calling people out for using abusive words?
Hypocrite!
Tell him to his face, stop using abusive words.
If you are using it when discussing with him how do you expect him to stop using it for you? Matthew 7:12

The highlighted is a COMMAND not an appeal! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:13pm On Mar 18, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Are you denying The God refers to person in which The son is also a person?
God in the second part of John 1:1 is about PERSON while God in the last part is about NATURE.

The son can be the PERSON because He is the one BEING WITH GOD(PERSON)

IS THAT CLEAR NOW?

it is your question to answer. How many The God is present in the Diagram?
No! It's not until you answer that.

Where was THE GOD appeared in your diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:15pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If you are using it for when discussing with him how do you expect him to stop using it for you? Matthew 7:12

The highlighted is a COMMAND not an appeal! smiley
So have you called him out before?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 9:16pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
God in the second part of John 1:1 is about PERSON while God in the last part is about NATURE.

The son can be the PERSON because He is the one BEING WITH GOD(PERSON)

IS THAT CLEAR NOW?
Where did you get that rule from? Is God no longer The Father, the son and holy spirit?




No! It's not until you answer that.

Where was THE GOD appeared in your diagram?
You claimed The God refers to persons. My diagram refers to three persons The Father, The son and The Holy Spirit.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:18pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
So have you called him out before?
Haba!
We don't call people out like masters over their faith {2 Corinthians 1:24} as i told you we appeal to them honorably as fellow believers! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:19pm On Mar 18, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Where did you get that rule from?
Which rule?

You claimed The God refers to persons.
Where? Notice PERSONS(plural)

You must provide where I said that.

My diagram refers to three persons The Father, The son and The Holy Spirit.
Good, so where did THE GOD appear in your diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:19pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Haba!
We don't call people out like masters over their faith {2 Corinthians 1:24} as i told you we appeal to them honorably as fellow believers! smiley
But you can call others out.

Do you see the hypocrisy I'm talking about?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 9:20pm On Mar 18, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Is your indoctrination in the Diagram?
You know the price 🙃
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
But you can call others out.
Do you see the hypocrisy I'm talking about?
If you are abusive towards me when i'm trying to maintain calmness i will ask you why nah! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:24pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If you are abusive towards me when i'm trying to maintain calmness i will ask you why nah! smiley
The reason is simple because you too do abuse people.

Or you want to claim you haven't use abusive words here?

My point is, you want to remove piece of wood in people's eyes why log of wood it's in your eyes and everyone around you.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:27pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
The reason is simple because you too do abuse people.
Or you want to claim you haven't use abusive words here?
My point is, you want to remove piece of wood in people's eyes why log of wood it's in your eyes and everyone around you.
Well at least you can notice how silent Janosky is after that post.

That's how we JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES appeal to reasonableness among our brothers.

The post was for him not you and it has yielded the positive result.

Thanks for your time! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 9:30pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
Which rule?


Where? Notice PERSONS(plural)

You must provide where I said that.
Below is your statement in bold


"If you read Genesis 2 you'll notice how the word MAN was used for the male Adam and interchangeably used for both male and female ADAM."


Good, so where did THE GOD appear in your diagram?
You have explained that The God refers to person. Is person not in the Diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 9:31pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
The point here is THE UNIVERSE.

You agreed it through another person.

So will the person be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?

The person is the CREATOR.

Oponu JaNosense.

How can you CREATE SOMETHING THROUGH ANOTHER PERSON BUT THE PERSON who is actually carrying the activities ISN'T THE CREATOR?

Emusan Clinging tight to pride and delusion rather than Hebrew 1:2, in his Bible.
grin grin
John 5:19 "the son can NOT do anything of his own initiative."

Mark 10:6 "God created THEM" not his son.
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the Universe."

Mark & John the apostle were taught by his son, Jesus Christ teaching them his Father's commanded, John 12:49-50

Emusan NOT agree with Jesus.
grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:31pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Well at least you can notice how silent Janosky is after that post.

That's how we JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES appeal to reasonableness among our brothers.

The post was for him not you and it has yielded the positive result.

Thanks for your time! smiley
The hypocrisy in you is so glaring, no need for talk talk grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

You mean JaNosense won't come here again with those words?

Let me wait, but I know you have no shame and if you see him with such post you'll rather divert attention.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:32pm On Mar 18, 2025
Janosky:

John 5:19 "the son can NOT do anything of his own initiative."

Mark 10:6 "God created THEM" not his son.
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the Universe."

Mark & John the apostle were taught by his son, Jesus Christ teaching them his Father's commanded, John 12:49-50


Better! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 9:33pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
You know the price 🙃
😂😂😂
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:35pm On Mar 18, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Below is your statement in bold

"If you read Genesis 2 you'll notice how the word MAN was used for the male Adam and interchangeably used for both male and female ADAM."
So, is this the rule you're talking about?

Where did I used PERSONS(plural)

You have explained that The God refers to person. Is person not in the Diagram?
No person in the diagram.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:35pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
The hypocrisy in you is so glaring, no need for talk talk grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
You mean JaNosense won't come here again with those words?
Let me wait, but I know you have no shame and if you see him with such post you'll rather divert attention.
Not that we are the masters over your faith, but we are fellow workers for your joy, for it is by your faith that you are standing. 2 Corinthians 1:24

I and Janosky share the same beliefs not that i'm master over his faith, he is standing for what he believes it's his manner of presentation i'm talking about! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:38pm On Mar 18, 2025
Janosky:
John 5:19 "the son can NOT do anything of his own initiative."
But The son was the one carrying out the activities of the CREATION.

Well that verse was talking about The Son in human nature.

My question, will the person be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?

Mark 10:6 "God created THEM" not his son.
Hebrew 1:2 "God created the Universe."
That shows that The Son is God who created Them.

Who BREATH IN THE NOSTRIL OF ADAM?

Mark & John the apostle were taught by his son, Jesus Christ teaching them his Father's commanded, John 12:49-50
The UNIVERSE was created through, so will the Son be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:39pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Not that we are the masters over your faith, but we are fellow workers for your joy, for it is by your faith that you are standing. 2 Corinthians 1:24

I and Janosky share the same beliefs not that i'm master over his faith, he is standing for what he believes it's his manner of presentation i'm talking about! smiley
So you can be master over another person.

Hypocrite!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 9:41pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
So, is this the rule you're talking about?
Oga you are just contradicting yourself. You claimed MAN(nature) is used for male Adam(person) and used interchangeably for male and female ADAM(nature)....you later came up with The man(person). Is MAN (person) or (nature)?

No person in the diagram.
So the father, the son and holy spirit refers to what?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:42pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
So you can be master over another person. Hypocrite!
You just like wahala but trust me i now know you than you know yourself there is no chances of exchanging hurtful words with me again, that has been buried completely! 2Timothy 3:17 wink
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:47pm On Mar 18, 2025
Answer this my question:

Where did I used PERSONS(plural)?

As you claimed earlier.

Truthseeker10:
Oga you are just contradicting yourself.
You're the one confusing yourself and lack simple comprehension.

You claimed MAN(nature) is used for male Adam(person) and used interchangeably for male and female ADAM(nature)....
To say I CLAIM shows you are not vast with the scripture.

The word MAN was used for both the first male and female in the SCRIPTURE not my claim.

you later came up with The man(person). Is MAN (person) or (nature)?
No! I only show you how the word MAN which was used for the first male and female means PERSON(in case of the male as seen in the scripture) and NATURE (as also seen in the scripture).

That is why I asked you to read Genesis 2 and see how it was USED.

So the father, the son and holy spirit refers to what?
To the TRINITY according to your diagram
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:51pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You just like wahala
Not like you.

but trust me i now know you than you know yourself
Waoooo clap for yourself. God!

there is no chances of exchanging hurtful words with me again, that has been buried completely! 2Timothy 3:17 wink
Good for you!

It's actually good for you because you seem hurt by it. Which means you can't take the fire you're burning people with.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10:
Emusan:
Answer this my question:

Where did I used PERSONS(plural)?

As you claimed earlier.



You're the one confusing yourself and lack simple comprehension.



To say I CLAIM shows you are not vast with the scripture.

The word MAN was used for both the first male and female in the SCRIPTURE not my claim.



No! I only show you how the word MAN which was used for the first male and female means PERSON(in case of the male as seen in the scripture) and NATURE (as also seen in the scripture).
These were your words below in bold.

"In the garden was the woman, the woman was with the man, and the woman was MAN.

It will be a grammatical error to say

In the garden was the woman, the woman was with the man, and the woman was a man

In line of this, as Genesis uses man for both first male & female, every right thinking person knows the first expression is correct as "...the woman was MAN" is about NATURE not gender or something else.

But the second expression "...the woman was a man" shows the woman is a male gender or something else not about NATURE.
"

You claimed calling The woman "a man" was a Grammatical error because "a man" referred to only Adam because Adam was a man.

So how does that correlate to John 1:1

Is "The God" in John 1:1 also a Grammatical error if used for "The son"?

You have told me here that King James refused to add The God because of Grammatical accuracy. But you keep adding it and claim not to commit a Grammatical error. I am not going to answer any of your questions anymore until you tell me the Grammatical error that would happen if "The God" is added to John 1:1.

is why I asked you to read Genesis 2 and see how it was USED.



To the TRINITY according to your diagram
You agreed with my Trinity diagram that clearly states that GOD is The Father, the son and the Holy Spirit.

It also clearly states that the father is not the son, the son is not the holy spirit and the Holy Spirit is not the Father.

So how many persons are in the Diagram?

If there are no persons in the Diagram according to you, why are you now saying that the God refers to the Father that is the person in John 1:1?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 10:11pm On Mar 18, 2025
Emusan:
But The son was the one carrying out the activities of the CREATION.

Well that verse was talking about The Son in human nature.
In what realm did God command his Son to do the earthly ministry?

Emusan LYING miscreant,allow your deluded brain to function.
grin grin

Emusan:
Who BREATH IN THE NOSTRIL OF ADAM?
That shows that The Son is God who created Them.
John 5:19 & Mark 10:6.
President Tinubu through the CBN fixed exchange rate @N1,600 to $1.
Is the Central Bank (CBN) Tinubu?

Emusan is desperately clawing at straws
.
grin grin
Emusan:
The UNIVERSE was created through, so will the Son be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?
My question, will the person be PART OF THE UNIVERSE?
Is the last born of every creature a creature?
Yes.
Is the first born of every creature a creature?
Yes.

Except the gene for self deceit & faithless miscreants is embedded in you.
grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m):
Emusan:
Not like you.
Waoooo clap for yourself. God!
Good for you!
It's actually good for you because you seem hurt by it. Which means you can't take the fire you're burning people with.
Ó mà ṣeo! smiley
So you can't seem to understand what Jesus taught yet you want to argue shey?

Well this is the benefit of being polite:

Atheist
Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.
Atheist
Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically
Catholic
Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment
Interested person
SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.
Agnostic
Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.
Atheist
Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down
With all these even a heartless person will feel touched that only one person is getting such praise for being polite! wink
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