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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:11am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
These were your words below in bold.

"In the garden was the woman, the woman was with the man, and the woman was MAN.

It will be a grammatical error to say

In the garden was the woman, the woman was with the man, and the woman was a man

In line of this, as Genesis uses man for both first male & female, every right thinking person knows the first expression is correct as "...the woman was MAN" is about NATURE not gender or something else.

But the second expression "...the woman was a man" shows the woman is a male gender or something else not about NATURE.
"
Yes! That is my post.

You claimed calling The woman "a man" was a Grammatical error because "a man" referred to only Adam because Adam was a man.
This shows you lack comprehension and never understand my post from inception.

Calling the woman "A MAN" will be a grammatical error because A MAN is describing another GENDER not what since the WOMAN has been described to be with A MALE GENDER(MAN).

So, every right thinking person will know that the WOMAN can't be THE SAME person she was WITH.

Here is the summary:

Both the first male and female were called MAN!

This means both are not MALE but MAN here talks about NATURE.

Both were described to be together and when describing them, the word MAN is usually used for the MALE to indicate his gender.

In a nutshell, the word MAN was used as a GENDER and NATURE.

So how does that correlate to John 1:1
It perfectly correlate with John 1:1 in a sense that The word was with God and the Word was God.

This shows that, God here just like (MAN) was used for two things.
1. person
2. Nature.

And this answer your question, "how can the word(God) be with God?"

Is "The God" in John 1:1 also a Grammatical error if used for "The son"?
This is totally out of it.

My emphasis is only on the definite article "THE" in front of the first God which shows the first word "God" not to be understood as the second "God"

I've explained this countless times.

You have told me here that King James refused to add The God because of Grammatical accuracy.
Stop lying I never said KJV REFUSED to add THE GOD.

I just give a reason WHY KJV MIGHT NOT INCLUDED and not even KJV. Most translations didn't include it but the fact is the Greek shows the first word translated as God which the word WAS WITH has definite article "THE" which makes it different from the word translated as God which the word IS.

How is this hard for you to understand?

But you keep adding it and claim not to commit a Grammatical error.
I've said I added it for the purpose of clarification just to show you that the first GOD not the same with the second God.

Is this a rocket science to you?

I am not going to answer any of your questions anymore until you tell me the Grammatical error that would happen if "The God" is added to John 1:1.
Pure nonsense.

John 1:1 read: "In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God"

1st red color = the first God
2nd red color= the second God.

Your question, how can the word(God; which is according to your diagram) be with God?

So, to you, you're taking the GODin that diagram as a PERSON and I have to clarify (which I even say it openly) that the God in that diagram is about NATURE not PERSON.

Your lack of simple comprehension leads to this confusion.

You agreed with my Trinity diagram that clearly states that GOD is The Father, the son and the Holy Spirit.
Yes! By NATURE

It also clearly states that the father is not the son, the son is not the holy spirit and the Holy Spirit is not the Father.
Yes! As person

So how many persons are in the Diagram?
No person in the diagram.

Your question should have been how many BEING PRESENTED AS PERSON?

Which is THREE

If there are no persons in the Diagram according to you, why are you now saying that the God refers to the Father that is the person in John 1:1?
Where PERSON APPEAR IN YOUR DIAGRAM?

I'VE BEEN ASKING YOU THIS QUESTION AND YOU KEEP DODGING IT BUT ONLY TO COME BACK AND START ASKING ANOTHER THING.

No PERSON appear in your diagram

Only God, the Father, the Son & the Holy Spirit appear.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m):
MaxInDHouse:
Ó mà ṣeo! smiley
So you can't seem to understand what Jesus taught yet you want to argue shey?

Well this is the benefit of being polite:

Atheist


Atheist


Catholic


Interested person


Agnostic




Atheist


With all these even a heartless person will feel touched that only one person is getting such praise for being polite! wink
As usual just about going out of POV.

You're pained by those hurtful words and the reason you lay emphasis on them.

So, stop your ranting.

Do this people know you as a liar

1. Who claimed I Emusan has multiple monikers on Nairaland?
2. That you know me more than myself?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 9:18am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
Yes! That is my post.



This shows you lack comprehension and never understand my post from inception.

Calling the woman "A MAN" will be a grammatical error because A MAN is describing another GENDER not what since the WOMAN has been described to be with A MALE GENDER(MAN).

So, every right thinking person will know that the WOMAN can't be THE SAME person she was WITH.

Here is the summary:

Both the first male and female were called MAN!

This means both are not MALE but MAN here talks about NATURE.

Both were described to be together and when describing them, the word MAN is usually used for the MALE to indicate his gender.

In a nutshell, the word MAN was used as a GENDER and NATURE.



It perfectly correlate with John 1:1 in a sense that The word was with God and the Word was God.

This shows that, God here just like (MAN) was used for two things.
1. person
2. Nature.

And this answer your question, "how can the word(God) be with God?"



This is totally out of it.

My emphasis is only on the definite article "THE" in front of the first God which shows the first word "God" not to be understood as the second "God"

I've explained this countless times.



Stop lying I never said KJV REFUSED to add THE GOD.

I just give a reason WHY KJV MIGHT NOT INCLUDED and not even KJV. Most translations didn't include it but the fact is the Greek shows the first word translated as God which the word WAS WITH has definite article "THE" which makes it different from the word translated as God which the word IS.

How is this hard for you to understand?



I've said I added it for the purpose of clarification just to show you that the first GOD not the same with the second God.

Is this a rocket science to you?



Pure nonsense.

John 1:1 read: "In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God"

1st red color = the first God
2nd red color= the second God.

Your question, how can the word(God; which is according to your diagram) be with God?

So, to you, you're taking the GODin that diagram as a PERSON and I have to clarify (which I even say it openly) that the God in that diagram is about NATURE not PERSON.

Your lack of simple comprehension leads to this confusion.



Yes! By NATURE



Yes! As person



No person in the diagram.

Your question should have been how many BEING PRESENTED AS PERSON?

Which is THREE



Where PERSON APPEAR IN YOUR DIAGRAM?

I'VE BEEN ASKING YOU THIS QUESTION AND YOU KEEP DODGING IT BUT ONLY TO COME BACK AND START ASKING ANOTHER THING.

No PERSON appear in your diagram

Only God, the Father, the Son & the Holy Spirit appear.
Where does the Diagram that I showed contain the Word "Being" since you are asking where does my Diagram contain the word "Person"?

Below in the screenshot is the reason you said that kjv dod not add "The God" in John 1:1.

Are we speaking Greek or English? So what is your grammatical error in adding The God to this discussion since it was not added in Kjv English translation?

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:27am On Mar 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse

Is this not him again.
Can you see the hypocrisy of yours I've been talking about?

Janosky:
[b]In what realm did God command his Son to do the earthly ministry?

Emusan LYING miscreant,allow your deluded brain to function.
grin grin
The Song is talking about his mission on earth.

Who BREATH in the nostril of Adam?

[b]John 5:19 & Mark 10:6.
President Tinubu through the CBN fixed exchange rate @N1,600 to $1.
Is the Central Bank (CBN) Tinubu?
Tinubu made the pronunciation and CBN carried it out.

Are you saying CBN didn't do anything?

You see why I do say your brain is so empty.

Tinubu only issue command but CBN must CARRY IT OUT.

So, whenever people want to talk about FX issue in Nigeria the attack CBN because they are the one carrying out the command.

So, can CBN be omitted?

Even CBN do things without president.

Emusan is desperately clawing at straws.
grin grin
Oponu JaNosense

Is the last born of every creature a creature?
Yes.
Is the first born of every creature a creature?
Yes.
The phrase "first born" has been used by ancient people to show POSITION and RANK.

When the Son became part of what He Created, has to take FIRST POSITION/RANK in EVERYTHING Col 1:18

This is too hard for JaNosense to grasp.

Except the gene for self deceit & faithless miscreants is embedded in you.
grin
Keep show casing your ignoramus and delusions.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:32am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Where does the Diagram that I showed contain the Word "Being" since you are asking where does my Diagram contain the word "Person"?
Useless question.

You already lost in the midst of your own diagram.

Below in the screenshot is the reason you said that kjv did not add "The God" in John 1:1.

Are we speaking Greek or English? So what is your grammatical error in adding The God to this discussion since it was not added in Kjv English translation?
Gosh.....

The @underline shows you're a liar and low in comprehension.

Your screenshot shows I used "MIGHT NOT" yet see how you put it up.

O ma se oooo
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 9:35am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
Useless question.

You already lost in the midst of your own diagram.
😂😂😂 You are trying to be smart na. Show me "Being" in the Diagram.



Gosh.....

The @underline shows you're a liar and low in comprehension.

Your screenshot shows I used "MIGHT NOT" yet see how you put it up.

O ma se oooo
So explain the Grammatical accuracy that you alluded to.....What Grammatical error are you making by adding The God to this discussion that we are having in English since the Kjv does not add it in its English translation?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:41am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂 You are trying to be smart na.
I'm smart before thank God I'm not trying to be daft

Show me "Being" in the Diagram.
No being in your diagram.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?

So explain the Grammatical accuracy that you alleded to.....
The grammatical accuracy is that the word WAS GOD not a god!

What Grammatical error are you making by adding The God to this discussion that we are having in English since the Kjv does not add it in its English translation?
I've said I use "The God" for explanation purpose.

To clarify that God which the word was with is different from God who the word IS.

What is your point exactly?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 9:48am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
I'm smart before thank God I'm not trying to be daft



No being in your diagram.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?



The grammatical accuracy is that the word WAS GOD not a god!
What's the difference between "was God" and "a God" in John 1:1?



I've said I use "The God" for explanation purpose.

To clarify that God which the word was with is different from God who the word IS.

What is your point exactly?
My point is exactly how the king James put it. There is No "The God" in the king James English Translation. You said it might be so for Grammatical accuracy. So why are you putting what is not there? What Grammatical error are you making by adding it?

I see "God" and not "The God" in the king James version and I stick to it for grammatical accuracy according to you.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 9:56am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
What's the difference between "was God" and "a God" in John 1:1?
Your eyes went blank on this.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?

My point is exactly how the king James put it. There is No "The God" in the king James English Translation.
Yes! I never disputed that there's "THE GOD" in KJV.

You said it might be so for Grammatical accuracy. So why are you putting what is not there?
Where did I put anything in KJV?

I never even quote any translation, you brought KJV issue and I made POV on it.

Now, you're accusing me of PUTTING WHAT IS NOT IN KJV THERE as if I rewrite the whole KJV.

What Grammatical error are you making by adding it?
Explained countless times

I see "God" and not "The God" in the king James version and I stick to it for grammatical accuracy according to you
Better, now let turn your own question around.

Can the word(God) be with God?

According to that diagram of yours
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 10:01am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
Your eyes went blank on this.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?



Yes! I never disputed that there's "THE GOD" in KJV.
Is "The God" in the kjv? I want to see it.



Where did I put anything in KJV?

I never even quote any translation, you brought KJV issue and I made POV on it.

Now, you're accusing me of PUTTING WHAT IS NOT IN KJV THERE as if I rewrite the whole KJV.



Explained countless times



Better, now let turn your own question around.

Can the word(God) be with God?

According to that diagram of yours
I am following your grammatical accuracy and correctness.

Why did you say that "THE GOD" might not be added to the kjv for grammatical accuracy? What is the possible error if one is to add it?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:05am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
Do this people know you as a liar.
Try to convince them nah! cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:09am On Mar 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Try to convince them nah! cheesy
I don't need to convince them, I have plenty evidence.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:10am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
MaxInDHouse
Is this not him again.
Can you see the hypocrisy of yours I've been talking about?
I told you that appeal differ from command.
So if you love exchanging hurtful words you are free to continue doing so with him at least you can see what many have said about me and my manner of approach:

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.

But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check
This person is talking about Janosky that my brother failed to maintain calmness unlike me so that doesn't make him evil he's just growing he will still get there! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:10am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Is "The God" in the kjv? I want to see it.
So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?

I am following your grammatical accuracy and correctness.

Why did you say that "THE GOD" might not be added to the kjv for grammatical accuracy? What is the possible error if one is to add it?
Explained multiple times.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:11am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
I don't need to convince them, I have plenty evidence.
Keep your evidence while they keep theirs!

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.
Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically
Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment
SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.
Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.
CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.

But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check
CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point
Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!
naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.
Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much
Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.
Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down
smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:13am On Mar 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I told you that appeal differ from command.
So if you love exchanging hurtful words you are free to continue doing so with him at least you can see what many have said about me and my manner of approach:



This person is talking about Janosky that my brother failed to maintain calmness unlike me so that doesn't make him evil he's just growing he will still get there! smiley
But you boast yesterday! And everything I said came to pass not even up to 12hrs cheesy grin grin cheesy grin

Didn't you change your mouth now?

Hypocrite!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 10:13am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?



Explained multiple times.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
I am not answering your questions until you tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:14am On Mar 19, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Keep your evidence while they keep theirs smiley
Even one of the people you keep quoting has WARMED YOU SEVERAL TIMES TO STOP DOING SO.

What does that tell you?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:16am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
I am not answering your questions until you tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
I've told you several times.

If you don't answer my question then, you have failed already.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 10:21am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
I've told you several times.

If you don't answer my question then, you have failed already.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
😂😂😂you've not answered my question. Are you also a failure?

My proof from my Diagram can only be presented when you show me "The God" in the Diagram and the kjv English translation.

And when you tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:27am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂you've not answered my question. Are you also a failure?
There's no question you asked me that I ever dodged.

But you do boycott my questions which sometimes I'll just overlook it.

So, a failure is the person who turn a blind eyes to questions

My proof from my Diagram can only be presented when you show me "The God" in the Diagram and the kjv English translation.
If not that you lack comprehension, I've already said this countless times.

There's NO "THE GOD" IN THE DIAGRAM AND KJV

Why do you so empty upstair?

And when you tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
I've told you several times.

You're just going in circles as a confuse being.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 10:31am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
There's no question you asked me that I ever dodged.

But you do boycott my questions which sometimes I'll just overlook it.

So, a failure is the person who turn a blind eyes to questions



If not that you lack comprehension, I've already said this countless times.

There's NO "THE GOD" IN THE DIAGRAM AND KJV

Why do you so empty upstair?



I've told you several times.

You're just going in circles as a confuse being.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:39am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
I've told you the possible grammatical error, the assignment for you is to go back to my previous posts even the one I posted this morning. You'll find it there.

Stop taking us backward.

This excuse won't save you because you know you're already out of your own POV.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 10:41am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
I've told you the possible grammatical error, the assignment for you is to go back to my previous posts even the one I posted this morning. You'll find it there.

Stop taking us backward.

This excuse won't save you because you know you're already out of your own POV.

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
😂😂😂😂your usual trick of telling people to go back to a non existent post.


Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:44am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂😂your usual trick of telling people to go back to a non existent post.
Swear that I never answer your question and I'll provide the screenshot here.

This show you don't know what you're doing.

Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
Already answered!

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 10:48am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
Swear that I never answer your question and I'll provide the screenshot here.

This show you don't know what you're doing.



Already answered!

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Bring the screenshot.

Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:50am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Bring the screenshot.
Do the first assignment first.

Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
I've even clarified that I DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THE KJV but you are still vomiting this lie.

Already answered!

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 10:51am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
Do the first assignment first.



I've even clarified that I DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THE KJV but you are still vomiting this lie.

Already answered!

So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:55am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 10:55am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 10:56am On Mar 19, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Since "The God" is not in the Diagram and the kjv English translation, tell me the possible grammatical error that can occur by adding "The God" to the kjv English translation.
So, what do you want to proof from that diagram?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:57am On Mar 19, 2025
Emusan:
Even one of the people you keep quoting has WARMED YOU SEVERAL TIMES TO STOP DOING SO.
What does that tell you?
It means you're not comfortable with his post so he wants me to stop using it to torment you but that's if you will behave otherwise what i have earned from him cannot be undone.
He has spoken what is true from his heart! wink
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