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Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by patrickmuf(m): 7:24pm On Mar 20, 2025
I knew the spate of violent attacks on innocent citizens across the country will increase after the declaration of state of emergency in Rivers State. I suspect that the opposition are largely funding these attacks just as the APC did when they were in opposition. It is becoming just too predictable...
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by Almunjid:
MAR2012:
You called out State Governors, and I pointed out the ugly truth: in Nigeria, only the President controls the law enforcement agents.

Sometime ago, a sitting Governor in tj person of Dr. Chris Mgige, was almost forced out of office by Police men who put pressure for him to resign.

While they held him hostage, the politicians behind tj coup, went on radio to announce his resignation.

It intervention of the then VP in the person of Atiku to call the police to order.

State Governors have no power.

It is not possible for us to know how we would have turned out if the Colonial Masters didn't force us into one.

And if you think we can achieve this unity, what are the bases?

What kind of unity can exist between me and Fulani herders who values his cow rather me?

How can I build a nation with people who have such mentality as Boko Haram,; who believes in killing me, they are doing God so good.

Recently, just for fasting - a personal religious devotion, one states in the North short down schools.

Someone believes his religious laws are superior to the Nations constitution, what kind of unity can we have?

We are openly operating two different constitutions.

It will never work.
I agree with the first part of your argument. However, I disagree with your assertion that state governors lack power.

Concerning unity, a regional system of government would have been a more effective solution. Dividing the nation based on language, culture, or priorities is not the answer. With over 500 languages, cultural and linguistic differences are inevitable. Other countries with similar linguistic diversity are still functioning effectively.

While the Fulani people's reputation has been tarnished, unity remains achievable. These atrocities may be politically motivated, occurring with the consent of those in power. Why else would the Fulani herdsmen issue escalate so rapidly?

Remember, not all Fulani people are the same. Making sweeping generalizations is akin to claiming unity is impossible between you and Igbo drug traffickers, baby factory operators, or counterfeit drug producers, who prioritize money and materialism over human life. The same argument could be applied to Yoruba skull miners who believe wealth can be generated through rituals. Each ethnic group has its challenges and outliers. Punish criminals, but do not reject entire communities due to these differences. Do not be misled into believing Boko Haram fights for God; their interpretation of Jihad, killing innocent non-Muslims, contradicts Islamic teachings.

Closing schools during Ramadan was a misguided decision by the state governments in question. Even Saudi Arabia keeps schools open during Ramadan. This is what happens when underqualified governors are in power.

Regarding prioritizing religious laws over the national constitution, this occurs across various regions. In Igbo land, traditional religions and cultural practices persist, with uncles seizing inheritances and children of the deceased being driven from their father's homes. Are these practices constitutional? The caste system of "osu" certainly isn't. Each region's customs are shaped by culture or religion; a regional system of government could better accommodate these differences. In India, for instance, diverse cultures are represented within their government structure. Did you know that there's a region in India (Tamil Nadu), where a woman can legally marry more than one husband?

In essence, your argument advocating division based on differences is flawed. We should strive to establish a more comprehensive system of government that respects our differences while promoting unity, equality and inclusivity.


Shalom!
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by bentenny(m): 10:18pm On Mar 20, 2025
JAOS:
State of emergency should be declared on those terrorists an attack of an officer is an attack on the federal government unfortunately none of them are oil pipelines so let move on
Rip to the soldiers
😆😆
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by bentenny(m): 10:19pm On Mar 20, 2025
Mumusaphire:
This is sad..... cant sodiers retaliate back and destroy herdsmen settlements ?
They only retaliate against the south!
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by bentenny(m): 10:20pm On Mar 20, 2025
Mrexcell:
This is one of the states tinibu is supposed to impose his SOE on but due to his greed for money choosed to impose it on rivers.
Benue nor get crude oyel
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by MAR2012: 9:30am On Mar 21, 2025
Almunjid:
I agree with the first part of your argument. However, I disagree with your assertion that state governors lack power.

Concerning unity, a regional system of government would have been a more effective solution. Dividing the nation based on language, culture, or priorities is not the answer. With over 500 languages, cultural and linguistic differences are inevitable. Other countries with similar linguistic diversity are still functioning effectively.

While the Fulani people's reputation has been tarnished, unity remains achievable. These atrocities may be politically motivated, occurring with the consent of those in power. Why else would the Fulani herdsmen issue escalate so rapidly?

Remember, not all Fulani people are the same. Making sweeping generalizations is akin to claiming unity is impossible between you and Igbo drug traffickers, baby factory operators, or counterfeit drug producers, who prioritize money and materialism over human life. The same argument could be applied to Yoruba skull miners who believe wealth can be generated through rituals. Each ethnic group has its challenges and outliers. Punish criminals, but do not reject entire communities due to these differences. Do not be misled into believing Boko Haram fights for God; their interpretation of Jihad, killing innocent non-Muslims, contradicts Islamic teachings.

Closing schools during Ramadan was a misguided decision by the state governments in question. Even Saudi Arabia keeps schools open during Ramadan. This is what happens when underqualified governors are in power.

Regarding prioritizing religious laws over the national constitution, this occurs across various regions. In Igbo land, traditional religions and cultural practices persist, with uncles seizing inheritances and children of the deceased being driven from their father's homes. Are these practices constitutional? The caste system of "osu" certainly isn't. Each region's customs are shaped by culture or religion; a regional system of government could better accommodate these differences. In India, for instance, diverse cultures are represented within their government structure. Did you know that there's a region in India (Tamil Nadu), where a woman can legally marry more than one husband?

In essence, your argument advocating division based on differences is flawed. We should strive to establish a more comprehensive system of government that respects our differences while promoting unity, equality and inclusivity.

Shalom!
There is a point you are missing on the need to disintegrate.
The Igbo man from Anambra can easily blend, mix up and live together with an Ibibio man from Akwaibom , without unproved violence.

However when it comes to the violent Fulani Jihadists, it is a different ball game all together.
If you say Boko Haram contradicts Islam, then Mohammed the founder of the religion also contradicts Islam. Usman Dan Fodio also contradicts Islam, For they set the pace for Boko Haram and ISIS.

Also, please explain to me why Nigerian Army will not act when these terrorists attack a community,
But when the people come out to protest, Nigerian Army will engage even to shoot live bullets.

Let me ask you, how do you change the mentality of a Jihadist?
How do you stop him from the hunger to spill the blood of "infidels'?

Give me practical solutions.
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by Almunjid: 11:27am On Mar 21, 2025
MAR2012:
There is a point you are missing on the need to disintegrate.
The Igbo man from Anambra can easily blend, mix up and live together with an Ibibio man from Akwaibom , without unproved violence.

However when it comes to the violent Fulani Jihadists, it is a different ball game all together.
If you say Boko Haram contradicts Islam, then Mohammed the founder of the religion also contradicts Islam. Usman Dan Fodio also contradicts Islam, For they set the pace for Boko Haram and ISIS.

Also, please explain to me why Nigerian Army will not act when these terrorists attack a community,
But when the people come out to protest, Nigerian Army will engage even to shoot live bullets.

Let me ask you, how do you change the mentality of a Jihadist?
How do you stop him from the hunger to spill the blood of "infidels'?

Give me practical solutions.
Lol, I now understand your anger towards Fulani people, but it's essential to recognise that the Fulani are divided into various subgroups. We have Fulani in Adamawa, Gombe, and Bauchi states who are peaceful. Just because a few nomadic Fulani have committed crimes, it doesn't mean we should condemn the entire Fulani tribe. Similarly, there are Igbo people in the South East, yet some Igbo individuals are criminals involved in drug trafficking, baby factories, and counterfeit drugs. Should we use this to judge the entire Igbo tribe as "criminals tribe"?

You mentioned Fulani jihadists, but most of the Fulani involved in killing people on their farmlands are not particularly religious. Many of them can't even read the Quran; stop attributing their crimes to the entire tribe and religion. Usman dan Fodio, Boko Haram, Al-Qaida, and ISIS are all similar in their extremism, and they are un-Islamic. However, only those who understand Islam can discern this.

In Islamic history, there's no record of Prophet Muhammad and his companions raiding a kingdom to establish Islam. Jihad, in its literal sense, means "struggle," similar to the meaning of the word "Aluta" in Portuguese. The so-called jihad you see today is a practice Muslims adopted from Roman and Christian crusaders, who used to raid towns, kingdoms, and spread Christianity by force. People seem to overlook the atrocities committed by crusaders while emphasizing those perpetrated by Muslims who adopted the same tactics.

After Prophet Muhammad's death, Islamic leadership fell into the hands of materialistic rulers who sought to expand their territory. When they heard that crusaders captured a city and imposed Christianity, they perceived it as injustice. Consequently, they gathered soldiers to fight and recapture the city or kingdom and impose Islam instead. Each side believed their religion was the best one to practice. This pattern led to the conquest of many kingdoms and countries like Egypt, which had once been Christian country. Usman dan Fodio was influenced by these practices; you can see how he installed his Fulani people as leaders in conquered territories to expand their power and dominance.

The true jihad was the battle between Muslims and the Meccan idolaters who persecuted Muslims for abandoning idol worship in favour of worshiping one God (Allah). When the persecution became unbearable, Muslims migrated from Mecca to Ethiopia and later to Medina. Even so, the idolaters pursued them to continue their oppression, leading to the justification of jihad as a struggle in the cause of Allah. The Qur'an verse, "And fight in the way of Allah those who fight against you, but do not transgress" (Qur'an 2:190). This verse instructs Muslims to fight only in self-defense against those who attack them and to adhere to the limits of just warfare.

Muslims selflessly fought in the cause of Allah until they achieved victory by conquering their enemies. Upon their return from the battle of Badr, Prophet Muhammad said to his companions, "We have returned from the lesser jihad to embark on the greater jihad." When asked what the greater jihad was, he replied, "The jihad of the heart, or the jihad against one's ego and passion (Al-Khatib al-Baghdadi). This implies that the jihad of fighting in self-defense is considered lesser when compared to the internal struggle against one's inclinations. How many of us have fought and won battles against temptation, sin, and addiction? These are the greatest forms of jihad.

The assumption that nomadic Fulani people are engaging in jihad is incorrect. They are unscrupulous individuals creating chaos in the land and should be held accountable for their actions. The fact that they have been able to evade consequences, much like Boko Haram, indicates that those in power may be complicit in their crimes. However, it is essential to recognize that these actions have nothing to do with Islam itself.

Upon examining the origins of many terror groups, it becomes evident that they often have Western backing and sponsorship. This includes organizations such as Al-Qaida, ISIS, and even Boko Haram. It is surprising that an educated person like you would believe that Fulani and Boko Haram are engaging in jihad and use that as a basis for claiming that we should not share a country with them. This notion is quite absurd.


Peace!
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by MAR2012: 12:22pm On Mar 21, 2025
Almunjid:
Lol, I now understand your anger towards Fulani people, but it's essential to recognise that the Fulani are divided into various subgroups. We have Fulani in Adamawa, Gombe, and Bauchi states who are peaceful. Just because a few nomadic Fulani have committed crimes, it doesn't mean we should condemn the entire Fulani tribe. Similarly, there are Igbo people in the South East, yet some Igbo individuals are criminals involved in drug trafficking, baby factories, and counterfeit drugs. Should we use this to judge the entire Igbo tribe as "criminals tribe"?

You mentioned Fulani jihadists, but most of the Fulani involved in killing people on their farmlands are not particularly religious. Many of them can't even read the Quran; stop attributing their crimes to the entire tribe and religion. Usman dan Fodio, Boko Haram, Al-Qaida, and ISIS are all similar in their extremism, and they are un-Islamic. However, only those who understand Islam can discern this.

In Islamic history, there's no record of Prophet Muhammad and his companions raiding a kingdom to establish Islam. Jihad, in its literal sense, means "struggle," similar to the meaning of the word "Aluta" in Portuguese. The so-called jihad you see today is a practice Muslims adopted from Roman and Christian crusaders, who used to raid towns, kingdoms, and spread Christianity by force. People seem to overlook the atrocities committed by crusaders while emphasizing those perpetrated by Muslims who adopted the same tactics.

After Prophet Muhammad's death, Islamic leadership fell into the hands of materialistic rulers who sought to expand their territory. When they heard that crusaders captured a city and imposed Christianity, they perceived it as injustice. Consequently, they gathered soldiers to fight and recapture the city or kingdom and impose Islam instead. Each side believed their religion was the best one to practice. This pattern led to the conquest of many kingdoms and countries like Egypt, which had once been Christian country. Usman dan Fodio was influenced by these practices; you can see how he installed his Fulani people as leaders in conquered territories to expand their power and dominance.

The true jihad was the battle between Muslims and the Meccan idolaters who persecuted Muslims for abandoning idol worship in favour of worshiping one God (Allah). When the persecution became unbearable, Muslims migrated from Mecca to Ethiopia and later to Medina. Even so, the idolaters pursued them to continue their oppression, leading to the justification of jihad as a struggle in the cause of Allah. The Qur'an verse, "And fight in the way of Allah those who fight against you, but do not transgress" (Qur'an 2:190). This verse instructs Muslims to fight only in self-defense against those who attack them and to adhere to the limits of just warfare.

Muslims selflessly fought in the cause of Allah until they achieved victory by conquering their enemies. Upon their return from the battle of Badr, Prophet Muhammad said to his companions, "We have returned from the lesser jihad to embark on the greater jihad." When asked what the greater jihad was, he replied, "The jihad of the heart, or the jihad against one's ego and passion (Al-Khatib al-Baghdadi). This implies that the jihad of fighting in self-defense is considered lesser when compared to the internal struggle against one's inclinations. How many of us have fought and won battles against temptation, sin, and addiction? These are the greatest forms of jihad.

The assumption that nomadic Fulani people are engaging in jihad is incorrect. They are unscrupulous individuals creating chaos in the land and should be held accountable for their actions. The fact that they have been able to evade consequences, much like Boko Haram, indicates that those in power may be complicit in their crimes. However, it is essential to recognize that these actions have nothing to do with Islam itself.

Upon examining the origins of many terror groups, it becomes evident that they often have Western backing and sponsorship. This includes organizations such as Al-Qaida, ISIS, and even Boko Haram. It is surprising that an educated person like you would believe that Fulani and Boko Haram are engaging in jihad and use that as a basis for claiming that we should not share a country with them. This notion is quite absurd.


Peace!
The very few "Fulani" is sacking communities and Nigerian Army does not consider their terrorism as act necessary for their intervention
.
However, if the people rise up to defend themselves Nigerian soldiers will arrive in their numbers.

Please, can you explain to me why Nigeria did not confront the terrorists raping and killing people at Enugu, but when unarmed women came out to protest, Nigerian Army shot at them.

Let me for the sake of argument agreed on your narrative that the Fulani committing this acts are not religious.

Give me solution sto stop them, so they don't attacked another community this night.

Also, did you say Mohammed did not wage wars to spread Islam?

Well, Usman Dan Fodii, ISIS, Boko Haram, ISWAP, the people who killed Deborah, the people who behaved Akaluka, because wla woman living in the same yard with him, used a torn piece of Koran to clean up her baby, , put his head on a spike and paraded it on the streets of Kano, the secondary school students who killed their teacher because she seized a copy of Koran one of them used to cheat in exam, all the violent violent Muslims all abide by the instructions of Mohammed.

Explain these verses

Qur'an 9:29 (Surah At-Tawbah)

Text: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture—[fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.


Qur'an 9:5 (Surah At-Tawbah)
Text: "And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."



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Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by Almunjid:
MAR2012:
The very few "Fulani" is sacking communities and Nigerian Army does not consider their terrorism as act necessary for their intervention
.
However, if the people rise up to defend themselves Nigerian soldiers will arrive in their numbers.

Please, can you explain to me why Nigeria did not confront the terrorists raping and killing people at Enugu, but when unarmed women came out to protest, Nigerian Army shot at them.

Let me for the sake of argument agreed on your narrative that the Fulani committing this acts are not religious.

Give me solution sto stop them, so they don't attacked another community this night.

Also, did you say Mohammed did not wage wars to spread Islam?

Well, Usman Dan Fodii, ISIS, Boko Haram, ISWAP, the people who killed Deborah, the people who behaved Akaluka, because wla woman living in the same yard with him, used a torn piece of Koran to clean up her baby, , put his head on a spike and paraded it on the streets of Kano, the secondary school students who killed their teacher because she seized a copy of Koran one of them used to cheat in exam, all the violent violent Muslims all abide by the instructions of Mohammed.

Explain these verses

Qur'an 9:29 (Surah At-Tawbah)

Text: "Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture—[fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.


Qur'an 9:5 (Surah At-Tawbah)
Text: "And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."



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As previously stated, the fact that these groups have managed to evade consequences, much like Boko Haram, indicates that those in power might be complicit in their crimes. Do I have a solution to proffer? Not a comprehensive one. However, if our leaders seem uninterested in addressing the issue owing to their selfish interests, we must collectively pressure them to clean up the mess they have created.

I want to reiterate that Prophet Muhammad never waged wars to spread Islam; historical accounts confirm this. All battles fought were in self-defense against the Idolaters who were attacking and killing Muslims.

The incidents you mentioned, such as the killing of Deborah and others, were crimes perpetrated by ignorant individuals who know nothing about Islam. These people are easily manipulated and misled. Similarly, such gullible and misguided individuals exist within Christianity as well. They are often put into a state of mental slavery by their pastors, who exploit them for personal gain, particularly through tithing.

Regarding the explanation of the last two verses, I explained the context earlier when I quoted Quran 2:190, where Allah says, "And fight in the way of Allah those who fight against you, but do not transgress." This verse, along with Quran 9:5 and Quran 9:29 you quoted, instructs Muslims to engage in self-defense against those who attack them while adhering to the limits of just warfare to avoid harming innocent people.

Moreover, the two verses you quoted are from Surat At-Tawbah, and they might be taken out of context if not considered alongside verse 36. In this verse, Allah specifies who should be fought against, stating, "...And fight the polytheists together as they fight together against you. And know that Allah is with those mindful of Him" (Qur'an 9:36). This verse also implies that only those who fight against us should be fought against. Therefore, there is no Islamic justification for the killings of innocent individuals like Deborah and others.

Those who wish to vilify Islam in the eyes of the world often quote verses about fighting and killing in jihad out of context. The Bible also contains hundreds of verses about killing innocent people, even more so than the Quran. Numbers 31:17-18 in the Bible states, "So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves."

The above verse implies that only virgins are safe from death, and crusaders may kill all boys and women who have had intercourse with a man. Boko Haram had killed people and kidnapped young girls in the past (chibok girls); could they be following this Biblical verse? grin Should Christians use this verse to justify fighting and killing innocent Muslims and others while keeping their virgin girls for themselves? Anyone who misuses scripture in this way, whether from the Bible or the Quran, has misunderstood its teachings.

Many of the terrorism acts committed by the so-called Muslims today were learned from the Crusaders, who raided kingdoms and forcibly imposed Christianity. History has painted them as saints, overlooking their acts of terrorism while emphasizing Islamic terrorism as a recent phenomenon. If we continue to quote the Bible and Quran out of context to justify the evil perpetrated by some of their followers, we will never be able to effectively address the global issue of terrorism.


Shalom!
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by MAR2012: 9:04pm On Mar 21, 2025
Almunjid:
As previously stated, the fact that these groups have managed to evade consequences, much like Boko Haram, indicates that those in power might be complicit in their crimes. Do I have a solution to proffer? Not a comprehensive one. However, if our leaders seem uninterested in addressing the issue owing to their selfish interests, we must collectively pressure them to clean up the mess they have created.

I want to reiterate that Prophet Muhammad never waged wars to spread Islam; historical accounts confirm this. All battles fought were in self-defense against the Idolaters who were attacking and killing Muslims.

The incidents you mentioned, such as the killing of Deborah and others, were crimes perpetrated by ignorant individuals who know nothing about Islam. These people are easily manipulated and misled. Similarly, such gullible and misguided individuals exist within Christianity as well. They are often put into a state of mental slavery by their pastors, who exploit them for personal gain, particularly through tithing.

Regarding the explanation of the last two verses, I explained the context earlier when I quoted Quran 2:190, where Allah says, "And fight in the way of Allah those who fight against you, but do not transgress." This verse, along with Quran 9:5 and Quran 9:29 you quoted, instructs Muslims to engage in self-defense against those who attack them while adhering to the limits of just warfare to avoid harming innocent people.

Moreover, the two verses you quoted are from Surat At-Tawbah, and they might be taken out of context if not considered alongside verse 36. In this verse, Allah specifies who should be fought against, stating, "...And fight the polytheists together as they fight together against you. And know that Allah is with those mindful of Him" (Qur'an 9:36). This verse also implies that only those who fight against us should be fought against. Therefore, there is no Islamic justification for the killings of innocent individuals like Deborah and others.

Those who wish to vilify Islam in the eyes of the world often quote verses about fighting and killing in jihad out of context. The Bible also contains hundreds of verses about killing innocent people, even more so than the Quran. Numbers 31:17-18 in the Bible states, "So kill all the boys and all the women who have had intercourse with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves."

The above verse implies that only virgins are safe from death, and crusaders may kill all boys and women who have had intercourse with a man. Boko Haram had killed people and kidnapped young girls in the past (chibok girls); could they be following this Biblical verse? grin Should Christians use this verse to justify fighting and killing innocent Muslims and others while keeping their virgin girls for themselves? Anyone who misuses scripture in this way, whether from the Bible or the Quran, has misunderstood its teachings.

Many of the terrorism acts committed by the so-called Muslims today were learned from the Crusaders, who raided kingdoms and forcibly imposed Christianity. History has painted them as saints, overlooking their acts of terrorism while emphasizing Islamic terrorism as a recent phenomenon. If we continue to quote the Bible and Quran out of context to justify the evil perpetrated by some of their followers, we will never be able to effectively address the global issue of terrorism.


Shalom!
I know you are going to quote Bible, however hear this,
The wars of the Bible was Jews dragging for territories and not to force others to embrace their religion.

In addition, Christians follow Christ, who fought no one and killed no one and instructed us to follow peace with all men.

When He was arrested, one man tried to fight but He cautioned him.
He laid down His Life us. (Of course, the idea of Him laying down His life for us , will not make sense to you).
All the incidents I cited about Islam and Moslems are not once in a while cases: they are rampant and every day with us.

While you keep claiming that the people who engage in the violent form of Islam are few, yet they are enough to unleash terror in nations.

How do you differentiate between an Islamic terrorist from a normal one?
Violent Islam is a cancer eating Nigeria up., It has been with us for years.
It is increasing and never slowing down,

Can you stop it?
If you can, stop it now.
If you cannot, please just leave us alone.
We have had enough explanations.
We do not need them anymore.,
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by Almunjid:
MAR2012:
I know you are going to quote Bible, however hear this,
The wars of the Bible was Jews dragging for territories and not to force others to embrace their religion.

In addition, Christians follow Christ, who fought no one and killed no one and instructed us to follow peace with all men.

When He was arrested, one man tried to fight but He cautioned him.
He laid down His Life us. (Of course, the idea of Him laying down His life for us , will not make sense to you).
All the incidents I cited about Islam and Moslems are not once in a while cases: they are rampant and every day with us.

While you keep claiming that the people who engage in the violent form of Islam are few, yet they are enough to unleash terror in nations.

How do you differentiate between an Islamic terrorist from a normal one?
Violent Islam is a cancer eating Nigeria up., It has been with us for years.
It is increasing and never slowing down,

Can you stop it?
If you can, stop it now.
If you cannot, please just leave us alone.
We have had enough explanations.
We do not need them anymore.,
Lol, I know you would undoubtedly attempt to justify Jewish terrorism, claiming that the wars in the Bible were just about territory and not forcing others to embrace their religion. Similarly, the jihads of the so-called jihadists are also about expanding territories due to their greed for power and dominance. Funny enough, following their scripture, the Jews are still killing children (male and female) in this era in Gaza to grab more territories and the owners of the territories who are "struggling" to protect it from them are being tagged "terrorists" while you and many other Christians cheer them up as they commit genocide. The Muslims' "struggle" to protect their territories is "jihad and terrorism" while the Jews grabbing lands are doing the lord's work, I guess. What a double standard!

Regarding the Fulani, it seems difficult for you to separate their activities from their religion. Nigeria's reputation is being tarnished globally and internationally, with all three major ethnicities contributing to this. We constantly hear about Igbo international drug traffickers being arrested and prosecuted, leading to Nigerians being hated internationally for crimes that other Nigerians are not guilty of. This is similar to Fulani and Boko Haram terrorism being used to criticize and hate Islam and Muslims.

The number of people indirectly killed by Igbo individuals due to their "get rich quick" mentality is innumerable. Many have lost their lives by consuming fake drugs supplied by Igbo criminals in hospitals, and the Nigerian Agency for Food and Drug Administration and Control (NAFDAC) recently destroyed 1 trillion naira worth of counterfeit drugs. Furthermore, many promising young Nigerian girls have had their lives ruined by the Igbo-run baby factory businesses, where women are kidnapped from different parts of the country, forced into prostitution, and made to bear children who are then sold without their consent. The crimes I've mentioned are not isolated incidents; they are rampant and occur daily in Nigeria. How can one distinguish between an Igbo criminal and a non-criminal Igbo? Criminal Igbo Christians are a cancer consuming Nigeria from within. This problem has persisted for years and continues to grow without any signs of slowing down. While some may argue that the number of Igbo people engaging in these crimes is small, it is still significant enough to wreak havoc and tarnish Nigeria's reputation on an international level.

What about the Yoruba? They are involved in skull mining and money rituals, killing and selling human body parts. Hausa people also contribute to terrorism through kidnappings and banditry, yet most Nigerians focus solely on the ethnicity and religion of Fulani criminals as if they are the only ones tarnishing our image. I despise hypocrisy.

I come from a minority tribe in the Middle Belt, and I am frustrated with the three major ethnicities and Christians for their roles in tarnishing our global reputation. My tribe is not involved in any local or international crimes, and you cannot imagine how terrible I feel about our international reputation being tarnished by the major tribes. We are stuck with "three problematic tribes" and a self-righteous religion (Christianity).

The harm that Christians, Yoruba and Igbo people inflict on this country daily goes beyond the herdsmen news we read about. Christians, Yoruba and Igbo people stay silent when news breaks about their criminal siblings, not wanting them to be seen as Christians, Yoruba or Igbo criminals, yet they are quick to associate other local criminals, like the Fulani, with their religion. What kind of hypocrisy is this?

Crimes committed by your fellow Christians and tribesmen are overlooked, while those of other religions and tribes are exaggerated. If you can stop the Igbo from tarnishing our international image daily with their drug trafficking crimes and the Yoruba from killing, mining skulls, and selling human parts daily, then I'll stop Fulani herdsmen from their attacks.

Regardless of what I write, you won't understand, your focus on the flaws of other ethnicities and religions is hindering productive dialogue. Our conversation has reached an impasse. Nonetheless, I appreciate the opportunity to exchange views with you. Going forward, I believe it would be more beneficial for you to engage in discussions with objectivity and open-mindedness. Let's respectfully agree to disagree and move on from this conversation. Thank you for your time, and I genuinely hope we can find common ground in the future.


Gracias!
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by MAR2012:
Almunjid:
Lol, I know you would undoubtedly attempt to justify Jewish terrorism, claiming that the wars in the Bible were just about territory and not forcing others to embrace their religion. Similarly, the jihads of the so-called jihadists are also about expanding territories due to their greed for power and dominance. Funny enough, following their scripture, the Jews are still killing children (male and female) in this era in Gaza to grab more territories and the owners of the territories who are "struggling" to protect it from them are being tagged "terrorists" while you and many other Christians cheer them up as they commit genocide. The Muslims' "struggle" to protect their territories is "jihad and terrorism" while the Jews grabbing lands are doing the lord's work, I guess. What a double standard!

Regarding the Fulani, it seems difficult for you to separate their activities from their religion. Nigeria's reputation is being tarnished globally and internationally, with all three major ethnicities contributing to this. We constantly hear about Igbo international drug traffickers being arrested and prosecuted, leading to Nigerians being hated internationally for crimes that other Nigerians are not guilty of. This is similar to Fulani and Boko Haram terrorism being used to criticize and hate Islam and Muslims.

The number of people indirectly killed by Igbo individuals due to their "get rich quick" mentality is innumerable. Many have lost their lives by consuming fake drugs supplied by Igbo criminals in hospitals, and the Nigerian Agency for Food and Drug Administration and Control (NAFDAC) recently destroyed 1 trillion naira worth of counterfeit drugs. Furthermore, many promising young Nigerian girls have had their lives ruined by the Igbo-run baby factory businesses, where women are kidnapped from different parts of the country, forced into prostitution, and made to bear children who are then sold without their consent. The crimes I've mentioned are not isolated incidents; they are rampant and occur daily in Nigeria. How can one distinguish between an Igbo criminal and a non-criminal Igbo? Criminal Igbo Christians are a cancer consuming Nigeria from within. This problem has persisted for years and continues to grow without any signs of slowing down. While some may argue that the number of Igbo people engaging in these crimes is small, it is still significant enough to wreak havoc and tarnish Nigeria's reputation on an international level.

What about the Yoruba? They are involved in skull mining and money rituals, killing and selling human body parts. Hausa people also contribute to terrorism through kidnappings and banditry, yet most Nigerians focus solely on the ethnicity and religion of Fulani criminals as if they are the only ones tarnishing our image. I despise hypocrisy.

I come from a minority tribe in the Middle Belt, and I am frustrated with the three major ethnicities and Christians for their roles in tarnishing our global reputation. My tribe is not involved in any local or international crimes, and you cannot imagine how terrible I feel about our international reputation being tarnished by the major tribes. We are stuck with "three problematic tribes" and a self-righteous religion (Christianity).

The harm that Christians, Yoruba and Igbo people inflict on this country daily goes beyond the herdsmen news we read about. Christians, Yoruba and Igbo people stay silent when news breaks about their criminal siblings, not wanting them to be seen as Christians, Yoruba or Igbo criminals, yet they are quick to associate other local criminals, like the Fulani, with their religion. What kind of hypocrisy is this?

Crimes committed by your fellow Christians and tribesmen are overlooked, while those of other religions and tribes are exaggerated. If you can stop the Igbo from tarnishing our international image daily with their drug trafficking crimes and the Yoruba from killing, mining skulls, and selling human parts daily, then I'll stop Fulani herdsmen from their attacks.

Regardless of what I write, you won't understand, your focus on the flaws of other ethnicities and religions is hindering productive dialogue. Our conversation has reached an impasse. Nonetheless, I appreciated the opportunity to exchange views with you. Going forward, I believe it would be more beneficial for you to engage in discussions with objectivity and open-mindedness. Let's respectfully agree to disagree and move on from this conversation. Thank you for your time, and I genuinely hope we can find common ground in the future.


Gracias!
Brilliant!

However, let us now bring some balance.

1. That I cheer Israel over land grabbing exist only in your imagination.

2. I agree with you., One cannot separate the Igbo kidnapper and fake drug dealer from the normal Igbo.
Also, know that Government does not fold hands about them

Recently, NAFDAC destroyed fake drugs worth Billions and shout down a whole market.

Kidnappers are not having field days, once they are caught, they are dealt with.

On the other hand, the Fulani terrorist are sacred.
Explain to me me why Sunday Jackson who survived an attack by a Fulani terrorists, who grazed on his farm and attacked him with a weapon is sentenced to death by the Supreme court.

Explain to me why soldiers will not hunt down the terrorists who grazed on people's farms kill, main and rap women!at will. However, when women from an Enugu Community, went on a protest over the activities of the terrorists and lack of Government intervention, Soldiers faced them with love ammunitions. Someone lost her life, others got wounded.

We have examples of what Government have done to kidnappers and fake drug dealers.

Tell me what Government has done to Herders who grazed on people's farms.

Mark you, the Igbo kidnapper is not sacking communities in the North, the fake drug dealer is not forcefully taking over people's ships in the North, them full the shops with fake drugs, but the Fulani herder is sacking communities in the south.

If Igbo kidnapers start sacking communities in the North, will Government fold hands?

Please, balance the equation.

Finally, please tell me the bases of unity.
For I don't see any.

We have been forced to live together for about 100 years,.it has been a Century of pains, woes, blood and death.

Enough!

Meanwhile, see the following video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xd9XC0ZPoik
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by Dougad: 8:02pm On Mar 22, 2025
MAR2012:
You called out State Governors, and I pointed out the ugly truth: in Nigeria, only the President controls the law enforcement agents.

Sometime ago, a sitting Governor in tj person of Dr. Chris Mgige, was almost forced out of office by Police men who put pressure for him to resign.

While they held him hostage, the politicians behind tj coup, went on radio to announce his resignation.

It intervention of the then VP in the person of Atiku to call the police to order.

State Governors have no power.

It is not possible for us to know how we would have turned out if the Colonial Masters didn't force us into one.

And if you think we can achieve this unity, what are the bases?

What kind of unity can exist between me and Fulani herders who values his cow rather me?

How can I build a nation with people who have such mentality as Boko Haram,; who believes in killing me, they are doing God so good.

Recently, just for fasting - a personal religious devotion, one states in the North short down schools.

Someone believes his religious laws are superior to the Nations constitution, what kind of unity can we have?

We are openly operating two different constitutions.

It will never work.
You're conversing with an APC slowpoke; a fool of epic proportion who when shown black would call it white. You literally just explained that the state govt has no power regarding this matter as per our constitution, yet the retárded victim of fetal alcohol syndrome still persists in his foolishness to blame them.
Re: Herdsmen Kill 7 Including 2 Soldiers In Benue (photos) by MAR2012: 7:09am On Mar 23, 2025
Dougad:
You're conversing with an APC slowpoke; a fool of epic proportion who when shown black would call it white. You literally just explained that the state govt has no power regarding this matter as per our constitution, yet the retárded victim of fetal alcohol syndrome still persists in his foolishness to blame them.
I don't really think it's about APC.

For it does not matter which party they belong to, their mentality is same


Party does not change people's mindset, rather people's mindset produces a Party's ideology.

El Rufaii has left APC, he has not left his violent mindset.
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