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sonmvayina:
God is after a contrite heart. A broken spirit you will not spurn. Psalm 50.
Jesus came from where? Jesus dying for sin is nobody's plan. It is not God's plan. Why do you believe in it?
No body sent him to die(that's if he even existed) God already gave the Jews the solution to the problem of sin. It does not involve human sacrifice. See 2nd chronicles 7:14. Is that not sufficient for you? Or you don't believe God's word.
Why are you advising or imposing on God to accept a human sacrifice?

so who is Jesus to you

delkuf:
so who is Jesus to you

He is a creation of the Roman empire...
Constantine wanted a single religion for his empire, he gathered religious leaders to Nicaea so they could fashion out a religion or adopt an existing one. They had to choose between The worship or serapis (Christianity) or mithriaism. After arguing for almost several days, they voted to go with the worship of serapis and Isis. Serapis became Jesus at the council of Ephesus and Isis became Mary his mother much later. Same old paganism. Just rebranded. .

Egypt, which you commended to me my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent and continually wafted about by every breath of fame. The worshippers of Serapis here are called Christians and those who are devoted to the god Serapis (I find) call themselves Bishops of Christ.

Hadrian to Servianus 134 AD.”

sonmvayina:
Moses never wrote Genesis. No serious scholar believes that. The Torah was written by a group of priest lead by Ezra, that's why most of the information are from Babylon myths.
The gospels began life anonymously, meaning no one knows who wrote it. If you claim inspiration, why are the names of the two thieves unknown?
It just a poorly written story, little wonder they have been editing it since Nicea....

I understand your point but let me tell you something; what is the value of worth of knowing the names of two criminals as to the message of salvation and the mission of Christ or are you now saying that the bible should record all the names, why is the name of David's mother not found in the Bible or why is the name of the woman with the issue of blood not mentioned? If all this things were included then I don't think the Bible was meant to be the word of God but just a collection of antique stories.

Now you said that no real scholar would accept that Genesis was authored by Moses, that is really funny 😅😂 😂

sonmvayina:
He is a creation of the Roman empire...
Constantine wanted a single religion for his empire, he gathered religious leaders to Nicaea so they could fashion out a religion or adopt an existing one. They had to choose between The worship or serapis (Christianity) or mithriaism. After arguing for almost several days, they voted to go with the worship of serapis and Isis. Serapis became Jesus at the council of Ephesus and Isis became Mary his mother much later. Same old paganism. Just rebranded. .

Egypt, which you commended to me my dearest Servianus, I have found to be wholly fickle and inconsistent and continually wafted about by every breath of fame. The worshippers of Serapis here are called Christians and those who are devoted to the god Serapis (I find) call themselves Bishops of Christ.

Hadrian to Servianus 134 AD.”

So this is who Jesus is to you. My own Jesus was not a creation of the Romans empire. My Jesus is the son of God who came to earth and died for our sins. He was born into born this world and became a human being though he was a God. And he died on the cross and on the 3 day He resurrected from the grave. With his death, we are saved. Our sins are paid for.

And after he resurrected, he ascended to heaven to bring down the Holy Ghost and the eternal life, so that can live sinless in this sinful world

Okezie5Regs:
I understand your point but let me tell you something; what is the value of worth of knowing the names of two criminals as to the message of salvation and the mission of Christ or are you now saying that the bible should record all the names, why is the name of David's mother not found in the Bible or why is the name of the woman with the issue of blood not mentioned? If all this things were included then I don't think the Bible was meant to be the word of God but just a collection of antique stories.

Now you said that no real scholar would accept that Genesis was authored by Moses, that is really funny 😅😂 😂

Is that not what it is?
Is it history?
We are expected to read it and learn the messages in the story.

Yes, no real or serious scholar believes Moses wrote the Torah, because of its parallels to Babylonian myths which where incorporated into it. From the creation of the universe by Marduk to the two brothers Enki(Jacob) and Enlil(Isau)...and to the flood.

delkuf:
So this is who Jesus is to you. My own Jesus was not a creation of the Romans empire. My Jesus is the son of God who came to earth and died for our sins. He was born into born this world and became a human being though he was a God. And he died on the cross and on the 3 day He resurrected from the grave. With his death, we are saved. Our sins are paid for.

And after he resurrected, he ascended to heaven to bring down the Holy Ghost and the eternal life, so that can live sinless in this sinful world

Ok.

Okezie5Regs:
I understand your point but let me tell you something; what is the value of worth of knowing the names of two criminals as to the message of salvation and the mission of Christ or are you now saying that the bible should record all the names, why is the name of David's mother not found in the Bible or why is the name of the woman with the issue of blood not mentioned? If all this things were included then I don't think the Bible was meant to be the word of God but just a collection of antique stories.

Now you said that no real scholar would accept that Genesis was authored by Moses, that is really funny 😅😂 😂

The guy was claiming inspiration from the wholely spirit..