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Why do Jehovah's witnesses denounce infant baptism when their publications support it?

I have been wondering recently

Show one of their publications that supports it

duro4chang:
Show one of their publications that supports it

Thanks for this post.
Some people just like talking against JWs to get antagonists talking.

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for this post.
Some people just like talking against JWs to get antagonists talking.

Do you and @Duro4chang still care I provide my evidence? @achorladey, you can bear us witness here

MiddleDimension:
Do you and @Duro4chang still care I provide my evidence? @achorladey, you can bear us witness here

I can't even remember what transpired again. Can you explain better so that I can recollect

MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for this post.
Some people just like talking against JWs to get antagonists talking.

Wants to chicken out from his religious organization getting exposed regarding their two faced nature and double standards.

The thread is not even about talking against Jehovah's Witnesses but a pointer to your many modes of operation. We know your GODS of men housed in USA already programmed your lies and manipulations filled brains that anything from others about Jehovah’s witnesses are NEGATIVE THOUGHTS and THINKING filled with lies and maligning your religious organization

duro4chang:
I can't even remember what transpired again. Can you explain better so that I can recollect

Just read from the beginning of the thread or topic.

MiddleDimension:
Do you and @Duro4chang still care I provide my evidence? @achorladey, you can bear us witness here

Salutations MiddleDimension. I dey follow closely

achorladey:
Wants to chicken out from his religious organization getting exposed regarding their two faced nature and double standards.

The thread is not even about talking against Jehovah's Witnesses but a pointer to your many modes of operation. We know your GODS of men housed in USA already programmed your lies and manipulations filled brains that anything from others about Jehovah’s witnesses are NEGATIVE THOUGHTS and THINKING filled with lies and maligning your religious organization

2FACE, faceless JWs.
All I see in the religion is delusion.

MightySparrow:
2FACE, faceless JWs.
All I see in the religion is delusion.

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Dem don colour their reality so tey they now live in the reality set up for them.

Remove the log from your eye before complaining about splinter in another person's eye. The fact that you're not JW doesn't mean the doctrines you follow don't have serious flaws you may be blind to.

I am not JW in any way. But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Your question would be a lot better if you ask for opinions about infant baptism, or if you just state your views and respond to others' reactions.

The JW people claim infant baptism is wrong and that an individual cannot be baptised unless they can old enough to know what exactly they are getting into and consent to getting baptised.
Here is a proof of their official stance on infant baptism: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20111001/Should-Infants-Be-Baptized/
There are many other proofs like the one in their publication ''Rrasoning From The Scriptures'', etc.

Being aware of that, you will be astonished to discover that there are in some of their publications, evidence that shows they are inconsistent with that teaching and implicitly agree that the apostles and ''first century christians'' baptised infants or those who are not old enough to consent to bebaptized.

The first of their publication which shows they are inconsistent with their teaching, is the New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures.

In acts 10:24, it says from the NWT, that: ''The following day he entered into Caes·a·reʹa. Cornelius, of course, was expecting them and had called together his RELATIVES AND CLOSE FRIENDS.''

Apparently, the WatchTower society agrees that the greek word ''Οικια'' means ''relatives'' which [bx]DEFINITELY[/b] include infants or toddlers, those who would be considered by the WT society as incapable of giving consent and therefore, should be excluded from baptism.

What is my evidence for this bold claim?

Here it is!

In the JW's publication ''Lessons We Can Learn From The Bible'', there is an article titled ''Cornelius Recieves The Holy Spirit''. https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-stories-lessons/14/cornelius-receives-holy-spirit/

In that article, there are children the age of which the JW ministers will not give baptism as they are not ''capable of consenting to it''.

No, according to the same acts of apostles, all those Cornelius called together, including those infants and children you see in that picture, spoke in tongues.

It says: ''While Peter was still speaking about these matters, the holy spirit came upon ALL THOSE HEARING THE WORD for they heard THEM speaking in tongues''
Acts 10: 44 - 44.

Then, Peter said: ''can anyone now stop them from being baptized, since we have seen for ourselves how they have recieved the spirit as we have...''

Then he commanded that all of those people, uncluding the children in the picture be baptized.

In conclusion:

The JWs preach that infant baptism is wrong because as they say: ''one should be able to consent to recieve baptism''. Well, the scriptures we have read even from the JW published New World Translation, shows that's not true and that children like the picture in that article shows, were also baptized since they spoke in tongues like the apostles spoke on the day of pentecost.

Any JW who still want to dispute what I have put here should ask if the WT society made a mistake putting kids in that picture.

@achorladey @MaxInDHouse @Duro4chang

WeirdAlien:
Remove the log from your eye before complaining about splinter in another person's eye. The fact that you're not JW doesn't mean the doctrines you follow don't have serious flaws you may be blind to.

I am not JW in any way. But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Your question would be a lot better if you ask for opinions about infant baptism, or if you just state your views and respond to others' reactions.

I am not criticising a denomination, a thing JWs are notorious for, by the way. They call some denominations ''babylon the great'' and everyone else, they negative word ''christiandom''.

achorladey:
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Dem don colour their reality so tey they now live in the reality set up for them.

Indoctrination is destructively powerful. The reason they live in delusion is because they mistake indoctrination for knowledge. The same reason a Muslim professor of biology or medicine to believe that embryo forms from spinal chord.

With all the inaccueracies of interpretations, the Governing Body still keep their flock intact.
Politicians should be learning from JWs' Governing Body.

MightySparrow:
Indoctrination is destructively powerful. The reason they live in delusion is because they mistake indoctrination with knowledge. The same reason a Muslim professor of biology or medicine to believe that embryo forms from spinal chord.

With all the inaccueracies of interpretations, the Governing Body still keep their flock intact.
Politicians should be learning from JWs' Governing Body.

Looooool!

They will put it inside awake that Propaganda don't make others do their thinking while their GODS of men housed in USA tell their members that independent thinking is dangerous.

WeirdAlien:
Remove the log from your eye before complaining about splinter in another person's eye. The fact that you're not JW doesn't mean the doctrines you follow don't have serious flaws you may be blind to.

I am not JW in any way. But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Your question would be a lot better if you ask for opinions about infant baptism, or if you just state your views and respond to others' reactions.

Show the other religious denomination he is criticizing the Jehovah's witnesses for.

The question of the thread is well placed. Jehovah's Witnesses on this thread can just come and bring clarification regarding it but they know it one of their many wolves in sheep clothing ways getting exposed here.

MiddleDimension:
The JW people claim infant baptism is wrong and that an individual cannot be baptised unless they can old enough to know what exactly they are getting into and consent to getting baptised.
Here is a proof of their official stance on infant baptism: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20111001/Should-Infants-Be-Baptized/
There are many other proofs like the one in their publication ''Rrasoning From The Scriptures'', etc.

Being aware of that, you will be astonished to discover that there are in some of their publications, evidence that shows they are inconsistent with that teaching and implicitly agree that the apostles and ''first century christians'' baptised infants or those who are not old enough to consent to bebaptized.

The first of their publication which shows they are inconsistent with their teaching, is the New World Translation of The Holy Scriptures.

In acts 10:24, it says from the NWT, that: ''The following day he entered into Caes·a·reʹa. Cornelius, of course, was expecting them and had called together his RELATIVES AND CLOSE FRIENDS.''

Apparently, the WatchTower society agrees that the greek word ''Οικια'' means ''relatives'' which [bx]DEFINITELY[/b] include infants or toddlers, those who would be considered by the WT society as incapable of giving consent and therefore, should be excluded from baptism.

What is my evidence for this bold claim?

Here it is!

In the JW's publication ''Lessons We Can Learn From The Bible'', there is an article titled ''Cornelius Recieves The Holy Spirit''. https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/bible-stories-lessons/14/cornelius-receives-holy-spirit/

In that article, there are children the age of which the JW ministers will not give baptism as they are not ''capable of consenting to it''.

No, according to the same acts of apostles, all those Cornelius called together, including those infants and children you see in that picture, spoke in tongues.

It says: ''While Peter was still speaking about these matters, the holy spirit came upon ALL THOSE HEARING THE WORD for they heard THEM speaking in tongues''
Acts 10: 44 - 44.

Then, Peter said: ''can anyone now stop them from being baptized, since we have seen for ourselves how they have recieved the spirit as we have...''

Then he commanded that all of those people, uncluding the children in the picture be baptized.

In conclusion:

The JWs preach that infant baptism is wrong because as they say: ''one should be able to consent to recieve baptism''. Well, the scriptures we have read even from the JW published New World Translation, shows that's not true and that children like the picture in that article shows, were also baptized since they spoke in tongues like the apostles spoke on the day of pentecost.

Any JW who still want to dispute what I have put here should ask if the WT society made a mistake putting kids in that picture.

@achorladey @MaxInDHouse @Duro4chang

When I saw the title of the thread I know Jehovah's witnesses won't bother at all to counter it simply because they know one area they show double face and hypocrisy is the baptism of children of which they condemn others for.


In the screenshot contain a piece of their religious publications, they stated men and women were getting baptized


Asked them, do they see baptism of children as low as 9 years old men and women?

WeirdAlien:
Remove the log from your eye before complaining about splinter in another person's eye. The fact that you're not JW doesn't mean the doctrines you follow don't have serious flaws you may be blind to.

I am not JW in any way. But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Your question would be a lot better if you ask for opinions about infant baptism, or if you just state your views and respond to others' reactions.

Tell him to present the publication no need of story the other guy is just looking for any JW that will come so he can start insulting them claiming they have done the same to him some five years ago!

MaxInDHouse:
Tell him to present the publication no need of story the other guy is just looking for any JW that will come so he can start insulting them claiming they have done the same to him some five years ago!

Hypocrisy exposed time to japa. . The person you are responding to can't even face the title of the thread squarely paapaa.

achorladey:
Hypocrisy exposed time to japa. . The person you are responding to can't even face the title of the thread squarely paapaa.

He asked me to provide the publication when I just did!

Did he bother to read my post at all?

I even poated the picture, for crying out loud!

MiddleDimension:
I even poated the picture, for crying out loud!

Picture of Jehovah's Witnesses baptizing infants!

achorladey:
Looooool!

They will put it inside awake that Propaganda don't make others do their thinking while their GODS of men housed in USA tell their members that independent thinking is dangerous.

Anything religion does not atimes go with common sense. An illiterate somewhere will indoctrinate a professor, and in the name of religion would swallow the rubbish Lin hook and sinker, just to discover that same thing has been changed by 'New Lights' ten times in his lifetime.

Indoctrination is a powerful tool, Governing Body is a master trickster.

MiddleDimension:
I am not criticising a denomination, a thing JWs are notorious for, by the way. They call some denominations ''babylon the great'' and everyone else, they negative word ''christiandom''.

Then you're no different from them.

achorladey:
Show the other religious denomination he is criticizing the Jehovah's witnesses for.

The question of the thread is well placed. Jehovah's Witnesses on this thread can just come and bring clarification regarding it but they know it one of their many wolves in sheep clothing ways getting exposed here.

You see, my concern is how we Christians disparage any other denominations apart from ours. We see the others as "they're getting it wrong, they're confused". The greatest achievement of modern Christian leaders today is to divide the body of Christ. So we dislike each other instead of learning from one another.

I've had the opportunity to become member of a number of denominations at different points in time. And I can tell you, every denomination has specific things they're getting right, but important things they're getting wrong. Even JWs.
So whatever one you belong to, you're both right and wrong in many ways, so don't think you're better than others.

WeirdAlien:
Remove the log from your eye before complaining about splinter in another person's eye. The fact that you're not JW doesn't mean the doctrines you follow don't have serious flaws you may be blind to.

I am not JW in any way. But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Your question would be a lot better if you ask for opinions about infant baptism, or if you just state your views and respond to others' reactions.

Great point & well articulated.

Maximum respect Sir.

achorladey:
When I saw the title of the thread I know Jehovah's witnesses won't bother at all to counter it simply because they know one area they show double face and hypocrisy is the baptism of children of which they condemn others for.


In the screenshot contain a piece of their religious publications, they stated men and women were getting baptized


Asked them, do they see baptism of children as low as 9 years old men and women?

Achorladey upgraded his penchant for IBERIBEISM.

Achorladey Awon Werey WAILING WAILER,is your 9 years old son/daughter an infant?

The OP of this thread said "INFANT Baptism".

For the records, JW'S don't have anything to do with infant baptism.

Ozuo pro max , come back home and continue WAILING.

WeirdAlien:
You see, my concern is how we Christians disparage any other denominations apart from ours. We see the others as "they're getting it wrong, they're confused". The greatest achievement of modern Christian leaders today is to divide the body of Christ. So we dislike each other instead of learning from one another.

I've had the opportunity to become member of a number of denominations at different points in time. And I can tell you, every denomination has specific things they're getting right, but important things they're getting wrong. Even JWs.
So whatever one you belong to, you're both right and wrong in many ways, so don't think you're better than others.

This message is more beneficial and to be directed to those religious organization and denominations having the mindset they are the only way to God.

Janosky:
Great point & well articulated.

Maximum respect Sir.

Werey peddling brains. I will remind you later

But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Janosky aka JaNosense don't know what his werey peddling brains stands for as one of Jehovah's Witnesses

I don't have a religious denomination or organization to defend. The point is indeed well articulated for your werey peddling brains to chew. Hypocrisy per Excellence. Janosky typed and stated Great point.

MightySparrow:
Anything religion does not atimes go with common sense. An illiterate somewhere will indoctrinate a professor, and in the name of religion would swallow the rubbish Lin hook and sinker, just to discover that same thing has been changed by 'New Lights' ten times in his lifetime.

Indoctrination is a powerful tool, Governing Body is a master trickster.

Your pastorpreneurs are selling your deities packaged in a bottle you are buying for your protection while they roaming around the city with well armed security escort.
Screenshot evidence.

You leave your master trickster pulpit bandits & be WAILING upandan about JW's.
Ozuo WAILING hypocrite.

MightySparrow:
Anything religion does not atimes go with common sense. An illiterate somewhere will indoctrinate a professor, and in the name of religion would swallow the rubbish Lin hook and sinker, just to discover that same thing has been changed by 'New Lights' ten times in his lifetime.

Indoctrination is a powerful tool, Governing Body is a master trickster.

I had different experience of where psychologist are indoctrinated into the many lies and manipulations of that religious organization.

They were surprised and couldn't believe that they fell for it

Janosky:
Your pastorpreneurs are selling your deities packaged in a bottle you are buying for your protection while they roaming around the city with well armed security escort.
Screenshot evidence.

You leave your master trickster pulpit bandits & be WAILING upandan about JW's.
Ozuo WAILING hypocrite.

Ozuo werey peddling brains wailing hypocrite peddler

But to start criticizing a denomination as justification for yours means you don't know what you stand for.

Janosky aka JaNosense you don't know what you stand for and that's a Great point & well articulated.

With Janosky aka werey peddling brains maximum respect

MiddleDimension:
He asked me to provide the publication when I just did!

Did he bother to read my post at all?

I even poated the picture, for crying out loud!

That liar and manipulator can type anything to advance his madness and insanities peddling about others and what they post. He knows the question you raised is one of the many ways they advance double standards and hypocrisy of their ways.