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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 1:45am On Apr 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Appellation is the same as name! smiley
lost false jw mad max

u speaking a lot of babble and deception and confusion, like your father the devil

when emusan said: "the Word is a name"

you false jw replied: "NO.
It's an APPELLATION!"

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
Why is Christ the ANGEL of the Lord? smiley
lost false jw mad max

the greek "agellos" means: "messanger", whether it be the Word or a angel or a human,
the hebrew "malak" means the same

Christ is the messanger of the Lord


ἄγγελος
aggelos
ang'-el-os
From ἀγγέλλω aggellō a messenger; an angel; a pastor


מַלְאָךְ
mal'âk
mal-awk'
a messenger; an angel a prophet, priest or teacher): - ambassador, king
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 9:18am On Apr 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
In Toronto Canada WAS Mr President! smiley
lost false jw mad max

Jehovah didn't say through john: "in the beginning was Jesus" because "Jesus" wasn't His name in the beginning
Jehovah said through john: "in the beginning was the Word" because "the Word" was His name in the beginning
if in the beginning Jesus name was michael, then Jehovah would have said through john: "in the beginning was michael"

but Jehovah didn't say "in the beginning was michael", because Jehovah doesn't lie like you false jw's of the devil do:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 9:28am On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
No! Jesus is the Word of God.

The WORD became flesh.


Bible truth will always prevail over lies.

You can see how your JAGABAN or Mr President didn't work cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
yes, Jesus pre flesh name is "the Word":
Joh 1:14  And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us,

it's nothing for false jw's to go against Jehovah's word
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m):
MaxInDHouse:
You haven't answered my question.
Is Tinubu jagaban? smiley
Do you believe Jesus isn't The Word of God?

Yes which is his Designation/ALIAS

Can JAGABAN appear in any Tinubu official documents?

This is not the first time I'm asking you this.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m):
MaxInDHouse:
Can you find the word "APPELLATION" in the Bible?
No! because they don't have appellation.

Well that's the correct rendering not a name because it was GIVEN thousands of years after his birth which means it is not his real name! smiley
No! The Word is a name from eternity to eternity.

If the name was given thousand of years after His birth that means the Scripture is lying by saying "and The Word became flesh"

Scripture have been provided yet you denied it.
Watchtower publications have been provided yet you denied it.

Can't you see your lying mouth being exposed?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m):
MaxInDHouse:
In the beginning WAS Mr President! wink
Just because Watchtower has brainwashed you about the truth of the God's word on Jesus Christ, you can spew this nonsense.

So Tinubu was also FROM BEGINNING which means no different from Tinubu and Jesus?

Very soon you will claim you're also from beginning to show there's no different between you and Jesus.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 12:17pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
No! because they don't have appellation.



No! The Word is name from eternity to eternity.

If the name was given thousand of years after His birth that means the Scripture is lying by saying "and The Word became flesh"

Scripture have been provided yet you denied it.
Watchtower publications have been provided yet you denied it.

Can't you see your lying mouth being exposed?
And the Word became flesh. Max reason this thing at all? grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

It is the Word known as the Word that became flesh. grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 12:31pm On Apr 03, 2025
achorladey:
And the Word became flesh. Max reason this thing at all? grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

It is the Word known as the Word that became flesh. grin cheesy cheesy
He has suspended his brain that's why🤧
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 4:16pm On Apr 03, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
He has suspended his brain that's why🤧
And stubbornly exchanging the truth for lies cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:21pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
No! Jesus is the Word of God.

The WORD became flesh.

Bible truth will always prevail over lies.

You can see how your JAGABAN or Mr President didn't work.
John 14:24, Jesus is NOT his Father's words.

"The Word or Logos" is an appellation of Jesus a spirit being, different from God his Father's word, John 14:24.

John 14:24,Revelation 1:3 & Hebrew 4:12 is beyond your brain capacity to understand.
cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy.

The word of God is his Father's words, command, messages obeyed by Jesus from Genesis to Revelation.
Compare John 14:24 , Revelation 1:3 & Hebrew 4:12.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:26pm On Apr 03, 2025
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

the greek "agellos" means: "messanger", whether it be the Word or a angel or a human,
the hebrew "malak" means the same

Christ is the messanger of the Lord

ἄγγελος
aggelos
ang'-el-os
From ἀγγέλλω aggellō a messenger; an “angel”; a pastor


מַלְאָךְ
mal'âk
mal-awk'
a messenger; an angel a prophet, priest or teacher): - ambassador, king




John W is arguing against the Bible truth he has confirmed.
Jesus is aggelos (angel, messenger, prophet) of the LORD Yahweh.

John W dunce indeed
.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:38pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
No! because they don't have appellation.

No! The Word is a name from eternity to eternity.

If the name was given thousand of years after His birth that means the Scripture is lying by saying "and The Word became flesh"

Scripture have been provided yet you denied it.
Watchtower publications have been provided yet you denied it.

Can't you see your lying mouth being exposed?

The God Almighty who born the mountains also born Jesus his first born & born Eve his last born.

grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 4:48pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
No! because they don't have appellation.



No! The Word is a name from eternity to eternity.

If the name was given thousand of years after His birth that means the Scripture is lying by saying "and The Word became flesh"


Scripture have been provided yet you denied it.
Watchtower publications have been provided yet you denied it.

Can't you see your lying mouth being exposed?

Which old testament prophet knew that the appellation "the Word" referred to Jesus?
Possibly, most of the apostles don't know that appellation in John 1:1.

Emusan, did Jesus expire at anytime?

Matthew 27:50, the passage states that "Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up his spirit," signifying his death.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:01pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
Do you believe Jesus is not the Word of God?

That is the question.

Jesus is the Creator John 1:1, 3; Col 1:16-17.


He created ALL SPIRITS BEINGS INCLUDING MICHAEL.
LYING miscreant deceiving himself.

I bought a house through my Agent.
Is my Agent the buyer of the house?
No.

I built my house through a Craftsman.
Is the Craftsman the builder?
No.

Nah me wey tell Craftsman "Go build my 4 bedroom duplex for me",) I will take the glory (& say "I built my house"wink not my Agent (Craftsman).

"THROUGH" @ Hebrew 1:2, John 1:1-3 & Colossians 1:15-17, is the specific reason Jesus is NOT creator.
Emusan LYING to himself,removed Greek word "THROUGH " from his Bible.
grin grin grin
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by delkuf(m): 5:02pm On Apr 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
It's you that's thinking it doesn't to me it works PERFECTLY!

You haven't answered the question:

When was Jesus given the name that is above every other name?

What is that name? smiley
Jesus was given the name that is above every other name here on earth. After he resurrected. But the Lord Jesus is the Word in heaven
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:12pm On Apr 03, 2025
Janosky:
LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
Okay Mr just be deceiving yourself JaNosense

I bought a house through my Agent.
Is my Agent the buyer of the house.
No! Your Agent isn't the buyer neither can you claim YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE BY YOURSELF.

Can you say that?

I built my house through a Craftsman.
Is the Craftsman the builder?
Yes! The Craftsman is the BUILDER.

You are not the BUILDER.

Check your dictionary "To Build" is different from being a "BUILDER".

We keep teaching you those basic English since Watchtower deprived you people formal education.


Nah me wey tell Craftsman "Go build my 4 bedroom duplex for me",) I will take the glory (& say "I built my house"wink not my Agent (Craftsman).
You'll take the glory as The OWNER not as A BUILDER, you can't go to any construction site and for the BUILDER and the OWNER comes out unless if the OWNER is also the one BUILDING THE HOUSE BY HIM/HERSELF.

I know you don't even understand anything about construction project from inception to completion.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:17pm On Apr 03, 2025
Janosky:
Which old testament prophet knew that the appellation "the Word" referred to Jesus?
Nothing like APPELLATION

There's ONLY NAME.

Where did you see appellation in the Bible?

possibly, most of the apostles don't know that appellation in John 1:1
Bible name say appellation but NAME.

Why do you people with your evil mind like your father the Devil changing the scripture.

Emusan, did Jesus expire at anytime?
The scripture: "In the beginning(before time) was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God...and The Word became flesh"

Does this show any expiration of time?

Matthew 27:50, the passage states that "Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up his spirit," signifying his death.
How does this against Jesus being The Word which is from Eternity to Eternity?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:21pm On Apr 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
In the Bible names and titles correlates for instance Christ was GIVEN a NAME that is above all other names means he now has a new TITLE.


Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name. ‭Philippians 2:9 NIV‬

Please was this name GIVEN to him in the beginning or after his earthly mission?


And what is that name given to him if it's after his earthly mission after all Jesus is his name on earth? smiley
Emusan,LYING miscreant is Philippians chapter 2:8 in your own Bible?

Phil 2:8 is the verse MaxinDHouse use put una WAILING WAILERS on lockdown.
Your comprehension skills is ZERO.
grin grin grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:22pm On Apr 03, 2025
Janosky:
John 14:24, Jesus is NOT his Father's words.

"The Word or Logos" is an appellation of Jesus a spirit being, different from God his Father's word, John 14:24.

John 14:24,Revelation 1:3 & Hebrew 4:12 is beyond your brain capacity to understand.
cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy.

The word of God is his Father's words, command, messages obeyed by Jesus from Genesis to Revelation.
Compare John 14:24 , Revelation 1:3 & Hebrew 4:12.
See this oponu....

Even your deluded organization says Jesus being the word of God is the same word at Genesis 1

Which everyone knows that at Genesis "...and God says" is the actual Word that created everything.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:28pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
Nothing like APPELLATION

There's ONLY NAME.

Where did you see appellation in the Bible?

Bible name say appellation but NAME.

Why do you people with your evil mind like your father the Devil changing the scripture.



The scripture: "In the beginning(before time) was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God...and The Word became flesh"

Does this show any expiration of time?



How does this against Jesus being The Word which is from Eternity to Eternity?

Emusan,Is Matthews 12:50 in your Bible?
Yes . Jesus died.

Emusan is Phil 2:8-9 in your Bible?
Yes.
Jesus died on a stake (stauros) .
Emusan, after Jesus died,what happened next in verse 9?
Which name, appellation was he given?
grin grin

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 5:35pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
See this oponu....

Even your deluded organization says Jesus being the word of God is the same word at Genesis 1

Which everyone knows that at Genesis "...and God says" is the actual Word that created everything.

Emusan OPONU LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
Shame on you, dunce.
grin

According to jw.org, while Jesus is referred to as "the Word" in John 1:1, this doesn't mean he is the same "word" used in Genesis 1:1, which refers to God's creative power. "
Screenshot Evidence.

Very dunce WAILER :

grin

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:54pm On Apr 03, 2025
Janosky:
Emusan,LYING miscreant is Philippians chapter 2:8 in your own Bible?
Phil 2:8 is the verse MaxinDHouse use put una WAILING WAILERS on lockdown.
Your comprehension skills is ZERO.
grin grin grin grin
He is just being aggressive for nothing!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by delkuf(m): 6:21pm On Apr 03, 2025
Janosky:
Emusan,LYING miscreant is Philippians chapter 2:8 in your own Bible?

Phil 2:8 is the verse MaxinDHouse use put una WAILING WAILERS on lockdown.
Your comprehension skills is ZERO.
grin grin grin grin
what does Phil 2:8 says. I don't know why guys twist the Bible like this
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:32pm On Apr 03, 2025
Janosky:
Emusan OPONU LYING miscreant deceiving himself.
Shame on you, dunce.
grin

According to jw.org, while Jesus is referred to as "the Word" in John 1:1, this doesn't mean he is the same "word" used in Genesis 1:1, which refers to God's creative power. "
Screenshot Evidence.

Very dunce WAILER
grin
The fact that you can't provide evidence from your own organization but rush to AI shows you lack knowledge about your own organization.

Here is also another screenshot from your own organization and AI.

Which one do you disagree with?

Oponu JaNosense

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:40pm On Apr 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
He is just being aggressive for nothing!
Shameless Lying liar.

From your organization:

A personal title. “The Word” also appears in the Bible as a title for Jesus Christ, both as a spirit in heaven and as a human on earth. Consider some reasons for this conclusion"

Notice how the name "The Word" said to be a TITLE(something never used in the scripture) for Jesus as a spirit IN HEAVEN and as a HUMAN ON EARTH.

Which shows Jesus has been The Word in heaven before coming to Earth.

But you a shameless lying liar who doesn't even follow his own organization teaching lied that the TITLE(as not found in the scripture) was GIVEN TO JESUS ONLY AFTER HIS MISSION ON EARTH.

Do you agree that Jesus bare that name THE WORD as human on earth?

In case you're blind I attached the screenshot as well

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
Shameless Lying liar.
LYING LIE LIAR LIE LYING LIAR LIE LYING.

What is the name Jesus was given after his successful earthly mission?

More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake. For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name. Philippians 2:8-9

I answered:

"The word of God"


Present your own answer.

That's all! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:48pm On Apr 03, 2025
Janosky:

Emusan,Is Matthews 12:50 in your Bible?
Yes . Jesus died.

Emusan is Phil 2:8-9 in your Bible?
Yes.
Jesus died on a stake (stauros) .
Emusan, after Jesus died,what happened next in verse 9?
Which name, appellation was he given?
grin grin

I've already addressed this but as you have nothing to offer other than dragging us back with your empty skull.

Phil 2:10 says the NAME(not a TITLE) is Jesus "...at the NAME of JESUS" that name "JESUS" is the key here.

Reason why the Apostles and the early Christians do things IN THE NAME OF "JESUS"

The Word has become FLESH with a NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME which is "Jesus"

Oponu JaNosense
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:51pm On Apr 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
LYING LIE LIAR LIE LYING LIAR LIE LYING.

What is the name Jesus was given after his successful earthly mission?

I answered:

"The word of God"

Present your own answer.

That's all! smiley
See the shameless lying liar cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Do you agree with your organization that Jesus bares the NAME THE WORD as HUMAN ON EARTH?

According to that article from your organization

Is my question cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:53pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
See the shameless lying liar cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

Do you agree with your organization that Jesus bares the NAME THE WORD as HUMAN ON EARTH?

According to that article from your organization

Is my question cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
You misconstrued what we said that's why i'm putting you through after all you don't believe our teachings! cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 7:00pm On Apr 03, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You misconstrued what we said that's why i'm putting you through after all you don't believe our teachings! cheesy
Of course, only someone deprived of formal education with a lying spirits will see a plain text like the above and call it MISCONSTRUED because he thought everyone is daft like him.

A personal title. “The Word” also appears in the Bible as a title for Jesus Christ, both as a spirit in heaven and as a human on earth. Consider some reasons for this conclusion:

The Word lived before all other creation. “In the beginning was the Word . . . This one was in the beginning with God.” (John 1:1, 2) Jesus is “the firstborn of all creation . . . He is before all other things.”—Colossians 1:13-15, 17.

The Word came to earth as a human. “The Word became flesh and resided among us.” (John 1:14) Christ Jesus “emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human.”—Philippians 2:5-7.


The personal TITLE "as a spirit in heaven and as a human on earth" was explained in two ways:

1. The Word lived before all other creation: This is as a spirit in heaven
2. The Word CAME TO EARTH AS A HUMAN: This shows He has been The Word before coming to Earth.

Well if you disagree with scripture is it your own organization you can't disagree with.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:03pm On Apr 03, 2025
Emusan:
A personal title. “The Word” also appears in the Bible as a title for Jesus Christ, both as a spirit in heaven and as a human on earth.
Read and meditate on Philippians 2:8-9

This is what i've been telling you since nah! smiley

It's after his successful earthly mission that he was given that APPELLATION! wink
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