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Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by abbey621(m): 6:50pm On Apr 03, 2025

patrickcollins:
China doesn't supply much of oil, they can source from Nigeria and other middle east Nations

Unfortunately they've burned most of the Middle East as well(Iran, Saudi, etc) and African nations with oil are controlled either by the US or China grin

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Akinpresident: 6:56pm On Apr 03, 2025

Omoawoke:
Macron you are a goat!

Seconded

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by patrickcollins: 6:58pm On Apr 03, 2025

abbey621:
Unfortunately they've burned most of the Middle East as well(Iran, Saudi, etc) and African nations with oil are controlled either by the US or China

Nigeria should take the advantage increase their daily production but how can opec give us limit of 2million plus barrels a day why Saudi Arabia does about 14 million daily

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Scamburster(m): 7:02pm On Apr 03, 2025

Chienex24:
Go and look at the tarrifs imposed on US products coming to their countries, and you will be shocked, including Nigeria. No wonder goods imported from USA are more expensive and that is why most traders prefer the Chinese market.

Also, the American consumers will bear the brunt, which will discourage purchase of foreign products and services, and boost local production... Basic Economics

If that was what really happening then why so much wide outcry, if so let Trump go ahead with 💯percent reciprocal sef. those parasites claiming woke and intelligent.

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Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Cmanforall: 7:04pm On Apr 03, 2025

jospepper:
To your tents o Israel...

Macron has nothing to lose. This is his last term

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Nobody: 7:10pm On Apr 03, 2025

Somebody please explain this to me in a different terms because maybe I'm not understanding. So for example, you tax the US 50% tarrif on their goods and they tax you only 10%. Now they want to increase their tariff to 25% to at least be at half to your rate of 50%. Why is the complaint and cries? If you want them to continue to keep to 10% rate, why not bring down your tariff to 20%? Is this not common sense?

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Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by NovusHomo(m): 7:17pm On Apr 03, 2025*

blamingthedevil:
Manufacturing is no longer a competitive advantage for America. The U.S. simply can't compete in this sector anymore and should instead focus on maintaining its edge in services. Even with a 100% tariff imposed by Trump, goods manufactured in Asia would still be cheaper than those produced in the U.S. Curious to know why?

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by NinjaMetahuman: 7:33pm On Apr 03, 2025*

Chienex24:
Macron seems to seek a futuristic role as the leader of Europe.

I will be against trump if the balance of trade is near equal but if there is a huge deficit l, I don't think any sane country will fold her arms while her country is being taken advantage of.

America is taking advantage of the rest of the world by making their own currency the global currency.

Did you know, America is the only country in the world that can print dollars willy nilly without suffering inflation consequences?

That's like getting goods produced by the rest of the world and giving them mere papers in return.

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Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by abbey621(m): 7:34pm On Apr 03, 2025

patrickcollins:
Nigeria should take the advantage increase their daily production but how can opec give us limit of 2million plus barrels a day why Saudi Arabia does about 14 million daily

The game within the game.....If no be say we don drag our reputation through the mud, a whole Nigeria used to have much more sway grin

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Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by SoliBayNG: 7:35pm On Apr 03, 2025

DeepSight:
Why? To discipline macron for speaking up? Just like everyone who dares expresses anything anti-Trump should be targeted and disciplined right?

Do you lot even read? Who implemented the tarrifs first? What do you understand by retaliatory tariffs?

It's the same Macron that's locking up the opposition leader under the guise of funds mismanagement, seeing she's most likely gonna win the next election, even though their judiciary stated they didn't enrich themselves directly?

Or the same Macron that was so pained cos francophone west africa woke up and chased out the French from their countries?

Are you aware the French government is still collecting returns from francophone countries in Africa, makes them store up their resources in France, amongst other ills?

That's the despicable human you are talking about. Smh

People love fools...once you wake up and say "no more taking advantage of me", they start crying blood.

Trump is not a politician...an anomaly, that's why he's able to shake things up. Before you cry fowl, CNN conducted polls, and the approval rating of the Democratic Party was about 20%. Trumps rating is well above 50%. So if the Americans are pleased with him, you absolutely have nothing to say in this.

Sit this one out.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Toktee(m): 7:40pm On Apr 03, 2025

SmartPolician:
The EU is angry because Donald Trump has taken a bold step to end the era of making the US the world's Father Christmas (Santa clause). I dare Macron to take the place of America in global aids and financial support.

Yet America's arm manufacturing industries are shaking in their boots already.
Do you think EU is Africa?

Even trump is afraid of loosing European market.
He tried this nonsense to Canada and Mexico buh failed and he will fail again.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by DeepSight(m): 7:43pm On Apr 03, 2025

SoliBayNG:
Do you lot even read? Who implemented the tarrifs first? What do you understand by retaliatory tariffs?

It's the same Macron that's locking up the opposition leader under the guise of funds mismanagement, seeing she's most likely gonna win the next election, even though their judiciary stated they didn't enrich themselves directly?

Or the same Macron that was so pained cos francophone west africa woke up and chased out the French from their countries?

Are you aware the French government is still collecting returns from francophone countries in Africa, makes them store up their resources in France, amongst other ills?

That's the despicable human you are talking about. Smh

People love fools...once you wake up and say "no more taking advantage of me", they start crying blood.

Trump is not a politician...an anomaly, that's why he's able to shake things up. Before you cry fowl, CNN conducted polls, and the approval rating of the Democratic Party was about 20%. Trumps rating is well above 50%. So if the Americans are pleased with him, you absolutely have nothing to say in this.

Sit this one out.

I am afraid it is you who do not read. I appreciate the points about France and I particularly despise it's neocolonialism in Africa which happily is being unbundled.

However in terms of what's going on now, it was initiated by Trump: in his gross idiocy, illiteracy and egoistic power drunkenness. He has no understanding of tariffs in the first place. Please do not even dare pretend that the US is a poor victim merely reacting to being exploited by the world.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Kooyepeju01(m): 7:44pm On Apr 03, 2025

Don't expect the country like France to be quiet, even when the toothless great Britain is mumbering,can't look into trump's face not bold enough to call spade a spade.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by EPOMA(m): 7:46pm On Apr 03, 2025

DeepSight:
When was the USA being taken advantage of? What was wrong with the US and world economy before now? You have an illiterate president who doesnt even understand what a Tarriff is (he thinks it is a tax strictly on those importing into the US which he can use as punishment). He doesnt know that it is American consumers that will bear the brunt and American lives that will be hurt.

Seems you don't read the news

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by DeepSight(m): 7:48pm On Apr 03, 2025

EPOMA:
Seems you don't read the news

Seems you cannot read at all.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by idahme(m): 7:53pm On Apr 03, 2025

Chienex24:
Macron seems to seek a futuristic role as the leader of Europe.

I will be against trump if the balance of trade is near equal but if there is a huge deficit l, I don't think any sane country will fold her arms while her country is being taken advantage of.

This is what they won't talk about, they place hige tariff on US goods but doesn't want same done to them that's unthinkable

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Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by ubmech: 7:56pm On Apr 03, 2025

Let’s break this down step-by-step to unpack the tariff question. The idea that tariffs are universally "terrible" or that no "sane" politician would use them doesn’t fully hold up when you look at how they’re used globally—your point about 90% of America’s partner nations using them is a good starting place. Tariffs have been around forever, and countries use them for all sorts of reasons. So, why the disconnect? Why the hate for tariffs in some circles, especially when America considers slapping them back on countries that already use them against usa?
First, tariffs aren’t inherently "bad" or "good"—they’re tools, like a hammer. A hammer can build a house or smash your thumb; it depends on how you swing it. Countries use tariffs to protect their own industries, raise revenue, or push back against what they see as unfair trade practices. When America’s trading partners put tariffs on U.S. goods, they’re often trying to shield their domestic businesses from competition—say, keeping American cars or soybeans from undercutting their local producers. Sometimes it’s strategic, like discouraging reliance on foreign supply chains for stuff they deem critical (think steel or tech). Other times, it’s just politics—local voters love hearing their leaders are "standing up" to big, bad America. Fair or not, that’s their logic.
Now, why does the U.S. using tariffs get labeled as a problem? Critics—usually economists obsessed with free trade—argue that tariffs distort markets. They say when America puts tariffs on, say, Chinese steel or Canadian lumber, it jacks up prices for U.S. consumers and businesses that rely on those imports. Your washing machine costs more because steel’s pricier, or your house takes longer to build because lumber’s scarce. They’ll trot out stats like how Trump’s 2018 tariffs on steel and aluminum cost U.S. consumers billions while saving fewer jobs than they disrupted elsewhere in the supply chain. The logic is: free trade keeps stuff cheap and efficient; tariffs muck that up.
But here’s where it gets messy: if tariffs are so awful, why do those same partner nations keep using them on us? The U.S. exports a ton—think planes, tech, agriculture—and countries like the EU, China, or India slap tariffs on those goods to protect their own farmers or manufacturers. For example, the EU’s been known to hit American agricultural exports with tariffs to prop up their own heavily subsidized farmers. China’s tariffs on U.S. soybeans during the trade war were a direct jab to hurt American farmers and flex leverage. If tariffs are such a disaster, why aren’t their economies collapsing under the weight of their own policies? Answer: they’re not. They see tariffs as a trade-off—some higher costs for more control over their economic destiny.
So, what’s wrong with America hitting back? Not much, if you think symmetry’s fair. If Canada tariffs U.S. dairy (which they do, heavily, to protect their milk cartel), why shouldn’t the U.S. tariff their timber? The catch is retaliation. Tit-for-tat tariffs can spiral—think of the U.S.-China trade war, where both sides kept escalating until soybeans and iPhones were caught in the crossfire. Global supply chains get tangled, prices creep up, and suddenly everyone’s paying more for less. Plus, America’s economy leans hard on imports—tariffs here hit consumers faster than in, say, China, where exports drive more of the engine.
Still, the "tariffs are insane" line ignores history. The U.S. used tariffs heavily in the 19th and early 20th centuries to build its industrial base—Hamilton was a fan, and it worked. Today’s critics act like free trade’s the only way, but plenty of sane politicians globally disagree. They’re not wrong that tariffs can backfire—higher costs, pissed-off allies, trade wars—but countries using them on us aren’t exactly trembling in regret. They’re betting their gains (protected jobs, leverage) outweigh the losses. America doing the same isn’t crazy; it’s just a gamble with different stakes.
Does that clear up the mud? Tariffs aren’t evil or genius—they’re just math with politics on top. Everyone’s playing the game; they just disagree on the score.

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Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by incogni2o: 7:56pm On Apr 03, 2025

SouthSouth1914:
Trump think say he wise. Hurting USA economy with his thoughtless policies

Wait see before jumping to conclusions

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Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Feldie: 7:59pm On Apr 03, 2025

Chienex24:
Macron seems to seek a futuristic role as the leader of Europe.

I will be against trump if the balance of trade is near equal but if there is a huge deficit l, I don't think any sane country will fold her arms while her country is being taken advantage of.

taken advantage of as how? Is there any human on earth that will pick Ford over Mercedes? If USA want people to buy their products they should make good products. The iPhone they're 'making' do they need government to force people into buying it before we all buy it? What of Google, Facebook, Twitter etc? If people aren't importing your product it just means it's not good enough (quality or value). Nobody is taking advantage of America

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by aimmoney9: 7:59pm On Apr 03, 2025

blamingthedevil:
Manufacturing is no longer a competitive advantage for America. The U.S. simply can't compete in this sector anymore and should instead focus on maintaining its edge in services. Even with a 100% tariff imposed by Trump, goods manufactured in Asia would still be cheaper than those produced in the U.S. Curious to know why?

Labour is cheap........... grin

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by incogni2o: 8:00pm On Apr 03, 2025

blamingthedevil:
Manufacturing is no longer a competitive advantage for America. The U.S. simply can't compete in this sector anymore and should instead focus on maintaining its edge in services. Even with a 100% tariff imposed by Trump, goods manufactured in Asia would still be cheaper than those produced in the U.S. Curious to know why?

So, what does America offer apart from "The American Dream" which is currently funded by hugr debt.

Any Country that will become any relevant to itself and its citizens must have a well established Manufacturing industry.

See your Country for example

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Feldie: 8:01pm On Apr 03, 2025

SmartPolician:
The EU is angry because Donald Trump has taken a bold step to end the era of making the US the world's Father Christmas (Santa clause). I dare Macron to take the place of America in global aids and financial support.

where is America getting the money they are using for the aid from? Let the world stop using dollar let's see if America will even be able to fund their bloated military anymore, not to even talk about giving out aid

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Scholes007(m): 8:09pm On Apr 03, 2025

tuoyoojo:
The EU guys are no longer subtle about the animosity

Na all out economic war

Even if a new president comes and reverses the tarrifs, their relationship can never go back to how it was

Sentiments aside, US needs new relationship with EU. Times are changing and EU is increasingly becoming a dead weight and anti American. Trumps approach may be harsh, but it doesn't change the immediate need for review in US-EU relationship.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by gawu1: 8:17pm On Apr 03, 2025

SmartPolician:
The EU is angry because Donald Trump has taken a bold step to end the era of making the US the world's Father Christmas (Santa clause). I dare Macron to take the place of America in global aid and financial support.

Do you really think the US has played the role of Father Christmas for no reason? Why do you think they continue to attack any country that seeks to free its economy from dollarization? I dare America to stop imposing the dollar on the world and see how its economy would fare.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by razzydoo(m): 8:23pm On Apr 03, 2025

This Macron(I) sef. Just cool down, already forming James Bond.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by gawu1: 8:27pm On Apr 03, 2025

MrPADDY:
Listen to Trump's complain about trade imbalance against the USA, in 1988, 37 years ago. I'm sure many of those with bias comments against Trump who wants to restore his country economic power weren't even born then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb6u6t5Nfus?si=-LMDzoaRQc1ux3fF

However, when will he explain how America has been dominating the world economy through dollarization for the past 37 years?

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Jonjam269: 8:31pm On Apr 03, 2025

No country can do it alone. The USA would face significant problems if all countries were to boycott their products and services. Historically, the USA has maintained its strength due to its strategic alliances.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by gawu1: 8:39pm On Apr 03, 2025

ogascomax:
You see say life no truly balance and humans are unfair against one another. US has been paying high tariffs for years now and Trump decided that it will be an eye for an eye they are complaining. How can your slam US with x,y,z tariffs and Trump increase theirs to half of what they are charged and the world is complaining. You want them to pay more and you want to pay less.

You have failed to see that what the US has lost from the other side, has been compensated for by dollarization of the world economy.
While the US is paying higher tariff for years, every country has to measure it currency value using dollar as benchmark for years.
That's the fairness in the economic relationship before the domineering tendencies of Trump.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Forumobserver12(m): 9:01pm On Apr 03, 2025

tuoyoojo:
The EU guys are no longer subtle about the animosity

Na all out economic war

Even if a new president comes and reverses the tarrifs, their relationship can never go back to how it was

Exactly, Trump has damaged American relationship with EU her biggest ally..

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by Originalsly: 9:08pm On Apr 03, 2025

MrPADDY:
Listen to Trump's complain about trade imbalance against the USA, in 1988, 37 years ago. I'm sure many of those with bias comments against Trump who wants to restore his country economic power weren't even born then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb6u6t5Nfus?si=-LMDzoaRQc1ux3fF

Hmmm ... interesting. He holds the same thoughts today as President . At that time if he were President he will make the US catch up and balance the 25 year trade deficit . Now as President it's a 56 year trade deficit to balance. What is not taken into account is in 1988 US was the " go to "market .... no alternative. China was still a poor country .... still in the Agricultural Age ... the major rice producer ...nothing else ... still communist ...missed the Industrial Revolution. Today ... US and UK no longer have the monopoly on trade and this is what's wrong with Trump's policies ...his 1980's plans cannot work today ... he's living in the past. France can now tell the US go to hell because there are now alternatives.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by NovusHomo(m): 9:13pm On Apr 03, 2025

SoliBayNG:
Do you lot even read? Who implemented the tarrifs first? What do you understand by retaliatory tariffs?

It's the same Macron that's locking up the opposition leader under the guise of funds mismanagement, seeing she's most likely gonna win the next election, even though their judiciary stated they didn't enrich themselves directly?

Or the same Macron that was so pained cos francophone west africa woke up and chased out the French from their countries?

Are you aware the French government is still collecting returns from francophone countries in Africa, makes them store up their resources in France, amongst other ills?

That's the despicable human you are talking about. Smh

People love fools...once you wake up and say "no more taking advantage of me", they start crying blood.

Trump is not a politician...an anomaly, that's why he's able to shake things up. Before you cry fowl, CNN conducted polls, and the approval rating of the Democratic Party was about 20%. Trumps rating is well above 50%. So if the Americans are pleased with him, you absolutely have nothing to say in this.

Sit this one out.

France is not Nigeria, abeg.

Re: Tariffs: Suspend All Planned Investments In The US - Macron To EU Leaders by kinharold(m): 9:16pm On Apr 03, 2025

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