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When macron nd other leader was making joke when trump came first tenure,now e don dey b fr una

Feldie:
taken advantage of as how? Is there any human on earth that will pick Ford over Mercedes? If USA want people to buy their products they should make good products. The iPhone they're 'making' do they need government to force people into buying it before we all buy it? What of Google, Facebook, Twitter etc? If people aren't importing your product it just means it's not good enough (quality or value). Nobody is taking advantage of America

Fair point, but you should also know the nitty gritty of Economics in the sense that not every country U.S is doing business with simply won't buy their products because they are inferior. You definitely won't tell me all their products are inferior. some of these countries just choose other markets instead of the u.s market. For example, U.S imports a lot of products and services from china, which placed 67% tarrifs on their products compared to U.s 34%, and still at that, China purchases all their oil needs from Russia and Iran, even as U.S currently exports cool crude oil products.

Also, the tarrifs will challenge their indigenous producers like the Mercedes you mentioned to produce better quality products so they can compete in the market, since tarrifs will generally discourage consumers from buying foreign products

You are missing the picture here, tinubu owns France...

blamingthedevil:
Manufacturing is no longer a competitive advantage for America. The U.S. simply can't compete in this sector anymore and should instead focus on maintaining its edge in services. Even with a 100% tariff imposed by Trump, goods manufactured in Asia would still be cheaper than those produced in the U.S. Curious to know why?

Simply because america was to liberal
America pay accurate wages but this dude go for cheap labour. I pray bola tinubu no go respond to tarrif oh, our own don finish be that

Sirleo05:
Trump will destroy America wit dis tariff madness. Who want 2 b slave or servant to America?

Choose between peace in ukrain and russia or tariffing why trump was elected.

NinjaMetahuman:
America is taking advantage of the rest of the world by making their own currency the global currency.

Did you know, America is the only country in the world that can print dollars willy nilly without suffering inflation consequences?


That's like getting goods produced by the rest of the world and giving them mere papers in return.

I pity you people that think US currency becoming the global currency after becoming a global power is cheating. Let us not go into what brought them into power after world war 1 and 2, and how they channelled this power to institutions so they can reach out to countries in need of aid and help them out. China is what it is today because it benefited from the so called "global dollar" you are condemning. Maybe Hitler could have won so every country in the world will be subject to them and and pay them taxes.

Chienex24:
Fair point, but you should also know the nitty gritty of Economics in the sense that not every country U.S is doing business with simply won't buy their products because they are inferior. You definitely won't tell me all their products are inferior. some of these countries just choose other markets instead of the u.s market. For example, U.S imports a lot of products and services from china, which placed 67% tarrifs on their products compared to U.s 34%, and still at that, China purchases all their oil needs from Russia and Iran, even as U.S currently exports cool crude oil products.

Also, the tarrifs will challenge their indigenous producers like the Mercedes you mentioned to produce better quality products so they can compete in the market, since tarrifs will generally discourage consumers from buying foreign products

Trump used AI to come up with the Tariff.
The numbers he listed aren't really tariffs other countries have placed on us but a calculation based on trade in goods deficit for 2024, then divided that by the total value of imports.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/03/trumps-idiotic-and-flawed-tariff-calculations-stun-economists

It's really idiotic.

Scholes007:
Sentiments aside, US needs new relationship with EU. Times are changing and EU is increasingly becoming a dead weight and anti American. Trumps approach may be harsh, but it doesn't change the immediate need for review in US-EU relationship.

America thrived on diplomatic subtlety and has gotten away with many stuff.

America has done some crazy stuff in the past but diplomacy is the icing to make it look less belligerent.

Oga donald came in kicked the front door with big boots and came all gun blazing

Agreed there is need for change but like them dey talk " na sofrey them take dey kill tsetse fly when pearch on top of scorutum"

See what is happening, all the major stocks around the US including Dow Jones have been hit badly

Recession is smiling and looking at Donny

DeepSight:
Not even 100 per cent tarriff will compete with cheap labor driven China. And exactly how long do you even expect such an impossible turn around to take?

Exactly... Cheap labor china is an advantage based on their population right? good. They can do more or shore up the deficit by buying more of alAmerican made products such as oil, which they buy only from Russia and Iran, since USA is a more important trading partner and has contributed more to their economy. They can also reduce tarrifs charged on US imports which is shockingly as high as 67%

Forumobserver12:
Exactly, Trump has damaged American relationship with EU her biggest ally..

It's a case of cutting your nose to spite your face.

Our fathers have it " the man who has swallowed the pestle should be ready to sleep in a standing position'

Trump could have achieved this and more thru diplomacy

JuanDeDios:
The current political and economic world order, the one that has existed since 1945, has benefited the US more than any country. By far. Trump has tunnel vision.

Yes, you're right about Mr Macron. Some are already calling him "the leader of the free world".

You are very wrong at the bolded. It rather benefited the countries of the world as USA channelled the world power status after 1945 to institutions which was used to aid countries of the world. That was why France, germany Japan, China, etc... became super economic giants. If Hitler has won the war, every country will probably be subject to him and pay him taxes. We may all be his slaves in addition. U.S may not be saints, but things will be far worse after 1945 bro

Chienex24:
Fair point, but you should also know the nitty gritty of Economics in the sense that not every country U.S is doing business with simply won't buy their products because they are inferior. You definitely won't tell me all their products are inferior. some of these countries just choose other markets instead of the u.s market. For example, U.S imports a lot of products and services from china, which placed 67% tarrifs on their products compared to U.s 34%, and still at that, China purchases all their oil needs from Russia and Iran, even as U.S currently exports cool crude oil products.

Also, the tarrifs will challenge their indigenous producers like the Mercedes you mentioned to produce better quality products so they can compete in the market, since tarrifs will generally discourage consumers from buying foreign products

there is no country on earth that has grown as much as the US economically in the last 80 years but somehow somehow white uneducated Trump lovers are convinced the whole world is taking advantage of them despite the fact that they spend more money on their defense than the entire African continent spend on their entire budget. Where are they getting that money from if the world were truly ripping them off? They can print dollars if they want and the whole world shoulder the inflation. I'm glad Trump is tanking their economy. This time they will experience what bad economy and inflation truly mean.

China did not place 67% tariff on the US. Trump totally made up those numbers. He even claimed an uninhibited island, whose population are only penguins also placed tariff on them. The earlier you people understand that Trump is insane and also suffering from cognitive decline due to aging, the better for you.

What’s Ngozi Okonjo Iweala doing about the ongoing trade war?

Chienex24:
You are very wrong at the bolded. It rather benefited the countries of the world as USA channelled the world power status after 1945 to institutions which was used to aid countries of the world. That was why France, germany Japan, China, etc... became super economic giants. If Hitler has won the war, every country will probably be subject to him and pay him taxes. We may all be his slaves in addition. U.S may not be saints, but things will be far worse after 1945 bro

You're making a different point altogether.

JuanDeDios:
You're making a different point altogether.

Not at all. I am making a point that it has benefited other countries far more to the point of these countries overtaking the USA

Chienex24:
Macron seems to seek a futuristic role as the leader of Europe.

I will be against trump if the balance of trade is near equal but if there is a huge deficit l, I don't think any sane country will fold her arms while her country is being taken advantage of.

Trump is simply trying to narrow the wide trade deficit America suffers at the hand of many countries. But most hypocrites are avoiding this point all together. Dude is a businessman who feels his country should not be taken undue advantage of.

SouthSouth1914:
Trump think say he wise. Hurting USA economy with his thoughtless policies

Do you really think a president can direct private businesses when and where to invest their money?

Walai:
Small nyash dey shake. France that Nazi Germany over ran in less than 2days of invasion and Charles de Gaulle ran to Tanzania disguised in woman skirt

So Ojukwu, the beerfrau.d General learnt from Charles de Gaulle 😂

Chienex24:
Macron seems to seek a futuristic role as the leader of Europe.

I will be against trump if the balance of trade is near equal but if there is a huge deficit l, I don't think any sane country will fold her arms while her country is being taken advantage of.

..why are many countries complaining..does USA control and determines businesses and international trade of the whole world and countries..can't these countries do without USA in business and international trade

SouthSouth1914:
Trump think say he wise. Hurting USA economy with his thoughtless policies

how is d policy thoughtless? No more father Christmas for any country again... If they want US to reduce their tariffs that should reduce theirs as well

Mr Macron should first tell us if European union are charging tariffs on US products or not.

You call yourself my ally but you charge me tariffs and I don't charge you. What kind of friendship is that?

That's a parasitic relationship.

Feldie:
there is no country on earth that has grown as much as the US economically in the last 80 years but somehow somehow white uneducated Trump lovers are convinced the whole world is taking advantage of them despite the fact that they spend more money on their defense than the entire African continent spend on their entire budget. Where are they getting that money from if the world were truly ripping them off? They can print dollars if they want and the whole world shoulder the inflation. I'm glad Trump is tanking their economy. This time they will experience what bad economy and inflation truly mean.

China did not place 67% tariff on the US. Trump totally made up those numbers. He even claimed an uninhibited island, whose population are only penguins also placed tariff on them. The earlier you people understand that Trump is insane and also suffering from cognitive decline due to aging, the better for you.

Those Islands must be included so that Australia and different organizations will not use them as loopholes to avoid paying tariffs.

This is well known in maritime industry worldwide. This is why you see some ships owned by US or UK companies flying Bahamas or Panama flags, to avoid some taxes or tariffs.

Chienex24:
I pity you people that think US currency becoming the global currency after becoming a global power is cheating. Let us not go into what brought them into power after world war 1 and 2, and how they channelled this power to institutions so they can reach out to countries in need of aid and help them out. China is what it is today because it benefited from the so called "global dollar" you are condemning. Maybe Hitler could have won so every country in the world will be subject to them and and pay them taxes.

Let me make it clear to you:

Since 1973 when President Nixon of US aborted the Woods internetional trading agreement, US stopped pegging the USD to gold value.

So currently a printed ($)dollar does not have any real value or collateral as it's back up.

Here is the issue, if the USA buys for e.g $1 billion worth of mineral, natural or technological product from a country, the selling countries will supply goods worth $1 billion. However, USA is only parting away with about $1.4 million which is the cost of printing $1billion if they were $100 bills.

There are other different scenerios.

In international trading, there is supposed to be an equal exchange of value.

The USA is supposed to give actual value to the dollar by the revenue it generates. But they have been in constant deficits recently.

mastermaestro:
Trump is simply trying to narrow the wide trade deficit America suffers at the hand of many countries. But most hypocrites are avoiding this point all together. Dude is a businessman who feels his country should not be taken undue advantage of.

That is the idea that the America govt or supportive media in the US must give to an American.

The global view is wider than that.

Chienex24:
Go and look at the tarrifs imposed on US products coming to their countries, and you will be shocked, including Nigeria. No wonder goods imported from USA are more expensive and that is why most traders prefer the Chinese market.

Also, the American consumers will bear the brunt, which will discourage purchase of foreign products and services, and boost local production... Basic Economics

1. Those numbers are made up. Don't easily get carried away.
2. The issue is not about being expensive. Tariffs are used to protect local markets.
3. The EU exports machinery and vehicles, chemicals to the US.
4. A trade surplus doesn't necessary means a health economy. China has a trade surplus of about 1 trillion USD but doesn't have the best economy. A trade deficit also doesn't mean a bad economy.
5. True the American consumers will bear the brunt, in few cases it will discourage some foreign products but that is not true for majority of goods and services. For example the US imports about 99% of coffee because it doesn't it, a tariff on coffee means consumers will spend more because there's no local alternative.
No US city have what it takes to manufacture an iPhone so no matter the tariff, the consumers will just keep suffering. The same is true for many good and services.
It's not as straight as you think sir.

Chienex24:
I pity you people that think US currency becoming the global currency after becoming a global power is cheating. Let us not go into what brought them into power after world war 1 and 2, and how they channelled this power to institutions so they can reach out to countries in need of aid and help them out. China is what it is today because it benefited from the so called "global dollar" you are condemning. Maybe Hitler could have won so every country in the world will be subject to them and and pay them taxes.

You need to understand how currency works. Read about what happened in 1973 and why that was done. You should understand that no tangible asset is backing the USD. That's why it's called fiat currency. That's what the US have used to their advantage. When you understand these foundational and historical narratives, you'll understand that the US is taking advantage of the world via it's USD.

OPICANTO2223:
Am a batified. This is how we do it in Abuja

Were... lmao 😂🤣🤣🤣

DeepSight:
When was the USA being taken advantage of? What was wrong with the US and world economy before now? You have an illiterate president who doesnt even understand what a Tarriff is (he thinks it is a tax strictly on those importing into the US which he can use as punishment). He doesnt know that it is American consumers that will bear the brunt and American lives that will be hurt.

You deserve a bottle of champagne 🍾👋💞💕.

Chienex24:
I pity you people that think US currency becoming the global currency after becoming a global power is cheating. Let us not go into what brought them into power after world war 1 and 2, and how they channelled this power to institutions so they can reach out to countries in need of aid and help them out. China is what it is today because it benefited from the so called "global dollar" you are condemning. Maybe Hitler could have won so every country in the world will be subject to them and and pay them taxes.

Dude, who cares how they became a global power?

We are talking about the dollar becoming the de facto global currency, and only one country can print this currency. You are talking about how they gained that power?

How does that change the fact that the dollar is now America's only cheat code?

Every country now wants a mere piece of paper printed in America, even when doing transactions with other countries that don't have anything to do with America.
How is that fair for the rest of the world?

Chienex24:
Go and look at the tarrifs imposed on US products coming to their countries, and you will be shocked, including Nigeria. No wonder goods imported from USA are more expensive and that is why most traders prefer the Chinese market.

Also, the American consumers will bear the brunt, which will discourage purchase of foreign products and services, and boost local production... Basic Economics

Question is, what is the cost of this local production?

Lol. Maybe he intends to overhaul the full labour force sha.

incogni2o:
Wait see before jumping to conclusions

Already hurting it..

Chienex24:
Macron seems to seek a futuristic role as the leader of Europe.

I will be against trump if the balance of trade is near equal but if there is a huge deficit l, I don't think any sane country will fold her arms while her country is being taken advantage of.

In the first place who is to blame for the trade imbalance? Americans are the architect of their own downfall. When you were busy investing in China all because of cheap labour didn't you know their will be trade imbalne and it would later hurt your economy?
You moved almost all product Canada, China and Mexico but mention a few, this is what happens when you don't look at the future impact of things.
Americans are the architect of their own misfortune.