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Janosky:
John W is arguing against the Bible truth he has confirmed.
Jesus is aggelos (angel, messenger, prophet) of the LORD Yahweh.
John W dunce indeed.

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost fraud jw janosky
talk about dunce, you false jw's take the prize for that every time

the Word, and angels, and humans, are not the same beings,
the Word isn't a angel, just as a human isn't a angel, oh as dum as they come one,
if your bible has translated angel of the Lord referring to Jesus then it is wrong,
it should be messanger of the Lord when referring to Jesus, and it should say
messanger of the Lord when referring to pastors and prophets, they also are not angelic beings

ἄγγελος
aggelos
ang'-el-os
From ἀγγέλλω aggellō a messenger; an “angel”; a pastor

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
there are 2 God beings (God and the Word), there are billions of human beings, and who knows how many angelic beings

false jw janosky
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

MaxInDHouse:
Read and meditate on Philippians 2:8-9
This is what i've been telling you since nah!
It's after his successful earthly mission that he was given that APPELLATION!

Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;

lost false jw mad max

Jehovah's word say's "name", so of course you say "appellation" to differ from Jehovah

Mat 13:49  "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
Mat 13:50  and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth

MaxInDHouse:
LYING LIE LIAR LIE LYING LIAR LIE LYING.
What is the name Jesus was given after his successful earthly mission?
More than that, when he came as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death, yes, death on a torture stake. For this very reason, God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name. Philippians 2:8-9
I answered:
"The word of God"
Present your own answer.
That's all!

lost false jw mad max

do you see every knee on earth bowing at the name of "Jesus/the Word of God"

Php 2:9  For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 
Php 2:10  so that at the name of Jesus EVERY KNEE WILL BOW, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 

"KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS" appears to be a name which could be above all other names
Rev 19:16  And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS." 
^^ and if there comes a time when HE is called by that name, then all knees could bow at His name

Jesus/the Word has other names even one not revealed to us:
Rev 19:12  His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. 

^^ if revealed maybe that's the name above all other names that all knees will bow to,
most people don't even use the name: "the Word of God" let alone bow at the sound of that name

another possibility:

1Th 4:16  For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.

the Lord shouts: "come up here", the archangel announces the: "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS", and: "the trumpet of God sounds"
or
the Lord shouts: "come up here", the archangel announces: "the new revealed name of the Lord", and: "the trumpet of God sounds"

CHRIST, IS LORD, THE FAITH, THE HOPE, PEACE OF GOD, GOD OF PEACE AND GOD IN LOVE!!!

MESSAGE NOT MESSENGER.
PERSONAL NOT IMPERSONAL.

MaxInDHouse:
Read and meditate on Philippians 2:8-9

This is what i've been telling you since nah!

It's after his successful earthly mission that he was given that APPELLATION!

You think I'm dull like you.

The statement read "as a spirit in heaven and AS A HUMAN ON EARTH"

Which means He has been The Word in heaven before coming to Earth and continuing being The Word on earth.

The is the same way AI put check it very well

Only a dull and unrepentant lying will twist a plain text

Emusan:
The statement read "as a spirit in heaven and AS A HUMAN ON EARTH"

When did he became a human on earth?
And when was that appellation known among humans?

MaxInDHouse:
When did he became a human on earth?
And when was that appellation known among humans?

Here is the AI explanation again.

Shameless lying liar

Emusan:
Here is the AI explanation again.
Shameless lying liar

So it's AI that's teaching you!

Please what does your AI say about Creation story, Adam and Eve in Eden and Noah's Ark?

MaxInDHouse:
So it's AI that's teaching you!

No! AI only EXPLAINED Watchtower teaching.

And it's more knowledgeable than you.

So, if you accuse me of misconstrued Watchtower, does AI also misconstrue Watchtower?

Please what does your AI say about Creation story, Adam and Eve in Eden and Noah's Ark?

AI will tell you about Creation, Adam & Eve according to creationists perspective.

You think AI will say Creation is a myth or uphold Evolution over God's Creation

Meanwhile, your disagreement with both your organization and AI is evident that you're a chronicle liar.

Your claim first was that, that name was GIVEN TO JESUS ONLY AFTER HIS MISSION ON EARTH.

But Watchtower claimed Jesus has been "The WORD as a spirit IN HEAVEN and as a HUMAN ON EARTH."

The phrase "...AS A HUMAN ON EARTH" means while Jesus was on earth.

Jesus' mission on earth completed after resurrection and you as a JWs never believe Jesus remains human after resurrection.

But you want to make us believe that Jesus being the Word AS A HUMAN ON EARTH is still after Jesus' mission.

You're too dull.

Either Watchtower is wrong that Jesus has been the Word "...as a HUMAN ON EARTH" or you're the liar who try to shift the goal post here.

Emusan:
No! AI only EXPLAINED Watchtower teaching.

And it's more knowledgeable than you.

So, if you accuse me of misconstrued Watchtower, does AI also misconstrue Watchtower?



AI will tell you about Creation, Adam & Eve according to creationists perspective.

You think AI will say Creation is a myth or uphold Evolution over God's Creation

Meanwhile, your disagreement with both your organization and AI is evident that you're a chronicle liar.

Your claim first was that, that name was GIVEN TO JESUS ONLY AFTER HIS MISSION ON EARTH.

But Watchtower claimed Jesus has been "The WORD as a spirit IN HEAVEN and as a HUMAN ON EARTH."

The phrase "...AS A HUMAN ON EARTH" means while Jesus was on earth.

Jesus' mission on earth completed after resurrection and you as a JWs never believe Jesus remains human after resurrection.

But you want to make us believe that Jesus being the Word AS A HUMAN ON EARTH is still after Jesus' mission.

You're too dull.

Either Watchtower is wrong that Jesus has been the Word "...as a HUMAN ON EARTH" or you're the liar who try to shift the goal post here.

So far one thing has been proven, that is, Max is a pathological liar!

He only uses things that fit his present narrative 🤦🏾‍♂️

Emusan:
No! AI only EXPLAINED Watchtower teaching.

So the machine can teach you what you need to know but can't practice it shey?

Why did you think Jesus need to be human so we can learn through his actions?

Gabrielshow24:
So far one thing has been proven, that is, Max is a pathological liar!
He only uses things that fit his present narrative 🤦🏾‍♂️

Na wah o, i left you with the atheist on the other thread only for you to come here again stalking me!

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o, i to left you with the atheist on the other thread only for you to come here again stalking me!

Wetin concern me with you!

By the way, I sent your atheist to go do his homework that's the difference between me and you 🤨.

Gabrielshow24:
Wetin concern me with you!
By the way, I sent your atheist to go do his homework that's the difference between me and you 🤨.

OK i've left the both of you to resolve the matter between you and him but must you follow me from thread to thread now?

MaxInDHouse:
So the machine can teach you what you need to know but can't practice it shey?

Teaching me! Can you imagine this liar.

Look at the screenshot again: it says "According to Jehovah's Witnesses, before coming to earth,
Jesus existed as a spirit being in heaven, serving as God's first creation and "the Word," acting as God's Spokesman and helping in the creation of all other things."

It went further to say: "Here's a more detailed explanation:"

So which means the AI understood Watchtower explanation of Jesus being "The Word" ACCORDING TO WATCHTOWER OWN TEACHING.

Why did you think Jesus need to be human so we can learn through his actions?

Don't shift ground.

Everyone knows Jesus has been The Word before coming to Earth as scripture says but only a lying liar like you arguing against the scripture.

Did AI misconstrued Watchtower is my question?

Emusan:
"According to Jehovah's Witnesses, before coming to earth,
Jesus existed as a spirit being in heaven, serving as God's first creation and "the Word," acting as God's Spokesman and helping in the creation of all other things."[/b]

Did AI misconstrued Watchtower is my question?

You are the one misconstruing what we teach!
Jesus served as God's spokesman in the heavens but that title has nothing to do with mankind until he came here to prove it by doing the same thing {John 17:8-9} it's after his successful earthly mission that he QUALIFIED to be called THE WORD both in heaven and on earth.

That's what Paul is saying in the Bible book of Philippians 2:8-9; Hebrews 1:1-2

You're only bent on attacking me in person instead of humbly asking for the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of our beliefs!

Emusan:
So which explanation/opinion were you looking for in the first place when you asked me if I agreed with the diagram of which I said YES! And you further asked me "How can then the Word(God) be with God?"

The explanation of the bolded above. But your explanation still have a probability of Grammatical error if "the" is added according to you. So Grammarian Emusan, what is this possible error?

MaxInDHouse:
You are the one misconstruing what we teach!
Jesus served as God's spokesman in the heavens but that title has nothing to do with mankind until he came here to prove it by doing the same thing {John 17:8-9} it's after his successful earthly mission that he QUALIFIED to be called THE WORD both in heaven and on earth.

I beg to differ, Jesus prayed "Let thy will be on Earth as it is in Heaven!"

Thus Jesus being the Father's express will to save the world —word of God—is the same as he was in Heaven!

Truthseeker10:
The explanation of the bolded above. But your explanation still have a probability of Grammatical error if "the" is added according to you. So Grammarian Emusan, what is this possible error?

All these years👀 you haven't advanced one bit, you are still as redundant as ever! Shame on you and your cohorts!!!

Gabrielshow24:
I beg to differ, Jesus prayed "Let thy will be on Earth as it is in Heaven!"

Thus Jesus being the Father's express will to save the world —word of God—is the same as he was in Heaven!

The highlighted solved the puzzle!

Jesus is God's spokesman in heaven but that has not yet been established on earth as at the time he was praying.

So it's after his successful earthly mission that he was confirmed both in heaven and on earth as God's spokesman! Hebrews 1:1-2

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted solved the puzzle!

Jesus is God's spokesman in heaven but that has not yet been established on earth as at the time he was praying.

So it's after his successful earthly mission that he was confirmed both in heaven and on earth as God's spokesman! Hebrews 1:1-2

While you totally digressed🤨, the verse goes to show that Jesus was the word of God in Heaven, from the very beginning! 😁

Not after his successful mission! JESUS is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow!

Gabrielshow24:
While you totally digressed🤨, the verse goes to show that Jesus was the word of God in Heaven, from the very beginning! 😁
Not after his successful mission! JESUS is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow!

Certainly he can't be a spokesman in the absence of any audience so it wasn't in the beginning before creation that he served as the word of God!

Gabrielshow24:
All these years👀 you haven't advanced one bit, you are still as redundant as ever! Shame on you and your cohorts!!!

You've still not advanced on the Hebrew word for Archangel in Daniel 10:13.

Truthseeker10:
You've still not advanced on the Hebrew word for Archangel in Daniel 10:13.

😂😂😂See this foo👀 trying to dredge up old instances of defeat! Even if you team with Deepseek you can never defeat me in an intellectual debate😂😂😂—you are just that dumb!

MaxInDHouse:
Certainly he can't be a spokesman in the absence of any audience so it wasn't in the beginning before creation that he served as the word of God!

Spokesperson is an human concept your 'genius' men of Chicago 👀 invented, but it fails woefully!

You alluded a while back that Jesus was the master worker and the wisdom of God! From which I asked you a simple question, did God suddenly become wise when he created Jesus? 🤔Which strongly implies he was foolish!

In the same vein, the bible condemns such view because Christ hath been with the Father before the beginning and he doesn't require "an audience" to be termed the "word of God"!

In fact based on genesis, the word of God was used without any audience! People came into being the sixth day!

This negates such foolish view!
In fact, your idea is a spinoff of the convoluted doctrine that states God needs an "audience" to be God 🤨!

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂See this foo👀 trying to dredge up old instances of defeat! Even if you team with Deepseek you can never defeat me in an intellectual debate😂😂😂—you are just that dumb!

😂😂😂baba realise say I don catch am. Na to insult remain.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂baba realise say I don catch am. Na to insult remain.

Catch who😂😂😂?
Why don't you go to that thread and educate yourself 🙃?

They are talking of animals with horns, your snail like self is coming out 🤨!

Mich547, you know how it ended miserably for you the previous times we had a discourse 🙃. I will do so well to remind you of what will befall you once more!

Gabrielshow24:
Catch who😂😂😂?
Why don't you go to that thread and educate yourself 🙃?

They are talking of animals with horns, your snail like self is coming out 🤨!

Mich547, you know how it ended miserably for you the previous times we had a discourse 🙃. I will do so well to remind you of what will befall you once more!

😂😂😂educate myself with a teacher that does not know the Hebrew word for "Archangel"? Baba you need sleep.

If it's sure for you, why don't you live by the agreement🤨 you gave your word to, when we were to have a logical discourse on trinity before running away?

Come on lad, prove yourself 🙃

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂educate myself with a teacher that does not know the Hebrew word for "Archangel"? Baba you need sleep.

Kindly tell us how that aids your argument 🤨.
Michael is just one of the chief princes 🤔 either way you try to spin it!

Let us know, Wise one, what substantial proof this adds to your allusions🤨?


The fool will soon circumvent and run away😂😂😂

Gabrielshow24:
Spokesperson is an human.

That's our interpretation of that title:

"The WORD of God"

And it's practical application has been of great blessings among us as these word of God removed hatred totally form our hearts so that we LOVE our neighbors as ourselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE our enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and LOVE our fellow believers just as Jesus loves us! John 13:34-35
And for your information that's what the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 said regarding God's true worshipers in the end time where they will use THE WORD OF GOD to resolve disparities peacefully among themselves divert their resources into production of food and information materials stop producing buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the title THE WORD OF GOD!

But if you object please tell me the practical application of the title!