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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:59pm On Apr 04, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You are the one misconstruing what we teach!
So AI is right?

Jesus served as God's spokesman in the heavens but that title has nothing to do with mankind until he came here to prove it by doing the same thing {John 17:8-9} it's after his successful earthly mission that he QUALIFIED to be called THE WORD both in heaven and on earth.
Can you hear the lying liar.

cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

So you agreed that Jesus served as God's SPOKESPERSON in heaven before coming to Earth.

Which means I'm right all this while and you're the one lying.

The reason for that name The Word was because Jesus is God's SPOKESPERSON.

Oponu oniri oshi.

That's what Paul is saying in the Bible book of Philippians 2:8-9; Hebrews 1:1-2
No! That's not what Paul was saying just a delusion from your own delusional mind.

You're only bent on attacking me in person instead of humbly asking for the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of our beliefs! smiley
Always playing the victim card.

You lied and your lie was shown to you instead of you to swallow it you want emotional victory.

It's evident Jesus has been The Word before coming to Earth.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:37pm On Apr 04, 2025
Emusan:
It's evident Jesus has been The Word before coming to Earth.
According to JW teaching Jesus has been acting as God's spokesman in heaven but since he hasn't done the same on earth we humans can't understand that appellation that's why he needs to complete his earthly mission before we are convinced of his title.
Your grievances is unjustified because it's our teaching so we are the one who can explain to the details what we believe not the other way around since you don't even agree with our beliefs! undecided
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 10:23pm On Apr 04, 2025
johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost fraud jw janosky
talk about dunce, you false jw's take the prize for that every time

the Word, and angels, and humans, are not the same beings,
the Word isn't a angel, just as a human isn't a angel, oh as dum as they come one,
if your bible has translated angel of the Lord referring to Jesus then it is wrong,
it should be messanger of the Lord when referring to Jesus, and it should say
messanger of the Lord when referring to pastors and prophets, they also are not angelic beings

ἄγγελος
aggelos
ang'-el-os
From ἀγγέλλω aggellō a messenger; an “angel”; a pastor

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
there are 2 God beings (God and the Word), there are billions of human beings, and who knows how many angelic beings

false jw janosky
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
John W MUMU very desperately WAILING against the definition of aggelos in his own post.

John W LYING miscreant, your own Bible says Jesus is aggelos.
You are LYING to yourself & you already knows that angel/messenger is aggelos.

The MUMU idiot say Jesus is messenger not angel
John W Very dunce MUMU.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 10:31pm On Apr 04, 2025
Janosky:
John W MUMU very desperately WAILING against the definition of aggelos in his own post.
John W Very dunce MUMU.
grin grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost fraud jw janosky

cannot ever stop lying like your father the devil,
truly aggelos means messenger, whether it be the Word, or human, or angels,
but you are as dum as they come and understand next to nothing

false jw:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 10:36pm On Apr 04, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Certainly he can't be a spokesman in the absence of any audience so it wasn't in the beginning before creation that he served as the word of God! wink
oh duh confused and lost false jw mad max

the beginning, is the beginning of creation,
in the beginning the Word spoke most everything into existence
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 10:36pm On Apr 04, 2025
johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;

lost false jw mad max

Jehovah's word say's "name", so of course you say "appellation" to differ from Jehovah

Mat 13:49  "So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous,
Mat 13:50  and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth
You too dunce.
What is the definition of appellation?
@ John 1:1, the Word is a title.
@ Revelation 19:13, the Word of God is a name.

@ James 1:25, become doers of the word doesn't mean become doers of Jesus.
@ James 1:25, @ John 14:24, the word is God's messages, command, instructions which Jesus Christ is obeying.
Jesus is a doer of the word @ James 1:25 & John 14:24.
This is the point beyond Emusan's low comprehension skills can't understand.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 10:39pm On Apr 04, 2025
johnw47:
oh duh lost false jw mad max

the Word spoke most everything into existance
Very dunce WAILER.
Is Genesis 1:26-27 & Job 38:4-7 in your own Bible?
God made the universe NOT his Son,
Or
Can you provide the evidences that Hebrew 1:2 is missing from your own Bible?
grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 10:42pm On Apr 04, 2025
Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂baba realise say I don catch am. Na to insult remain.
No mind that WAILING WAILER kiddo so fond of LYING to himself.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 10:58pm On Apr 04, 2025
Emusan:
I've already addressed this but as you have nothing to offer other than dragging us back with your empty skull.

Phil 2:10 says the NAME(not a TITLE) is Jesus "...at the NAME of JESUS" that name "JESUS" is the key here.

Reason why the Apostles and the early Christians do things IN THE NAME OF "JESUS"

The Word has become FLESH with a NAME ABOVE EVERY NAME which is "Jesus"

Oponu JaNosense
Emusan LYING miscreant forgot Phil 2:8-10 in his own Bible.
You are very dunce, I must say it again.
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Was God's son named Jesus while he was in heaven?
Definitely not!

Phil 2:8-9, said Christ was given a name above other name AFTER Christ death .

Oga, @ which time did you first know that God's son is named Jesus?
Allow Luke 1:30-32 fry your brain.
Emusan OPONU LYING miscreant.
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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 11:14pm On Apr 04, 2025
Janosky:
You too dunce.
What is the definition of appellation?
@ John 1:1, the Word is a title.
@ Revelation 19:13, the Word of God is a name.
very dum lost fraud jw janosky

@ john 1:1, show how the Word is a title and not a name

Janosky: @ James 1:25, become doers of the word doesn't mean become doers of Jesus.
@ James 1:25, @ John 14:24, the word is God's messages, command, instructions which Jesus Christ is obeying.
Jesus is a doer of the word @ James 1:25 & John 14:24.
This is the point beyond Emusan's low comprehension skills can't understand.
you are the one who can't understand, and that's for certain
james 1:25 is about people who not only know the law but do what's required by the law, will be blessed

john 14:24 is about the words Jesus teaches is words from the Father

how do these verses show that "the Word" is not pre flesh Jesus Christ,
and that "the Word" is not a name

there are none dummer than you false jw's, are there

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 11:17pm On Apr 04, 2025
Emusan:
The fact that you can't provide evidence from your own organization but rush to AI shows you lack knowledge about your own organization.

Here is also another screenshot from your own organization and AI.

Which one do you disagree with?

Oponu JaNosense
Very dunce Emusan LYING to himself.
A.I overview:
"According to jw......"
JW's viewpoint quoted by A.I

[i]Emusan LYING: @ 5:22pm On Apr 03
LYING miscreant desperate to cover up his lies @ 5:22pm on Thursday,April 3rd,


Even your deluded organization says Jesus being the word of God is the same word at Genesis 1:1".
[/i]


No Sir, the word @ Genesis 1 is God's creative power different from the word @ James 1:25 & John 14:24, that is,God's messages, command that Jesus is doing obediently, John 12:49-50.

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 11:27pm On Apr 04, 2025
Janosky:
Very dunce WAILER.
Is Genesis 1:26-27 & Job 38:4-7 in your own Bible?
God made the universe NOT his Son,
oh duh as dum as they come one

God made everything through the Word/Jesus Christ, so what are you trying to say
oh confused one

Janosky: Or
Can you provide the evidences that Hebrew 1:2 is missing from your own Bible?
grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

heb 1:2 says God made everything through "Jesus", and john 1:3 says God made everything through "the Word"
showing/proving that "the Word" is "Jesus Christ"

ja nonsense:
1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 11:38pm On Apr 04, 2025
lost fraud jw janosky

more:
john 1:3 says everything was made through "the Word'
john 1:10 shows the world was made through "Jesus"

= "the Word" is pre flesh "Jesus Christ"
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 12:03am On Apr 05, 2025
lost dum dum, fraud jw janosky

you rely on posting attachments of words from men, even from AI quoting men - so funny
Christians only want Jehovah's word which when you do use it,
you twist and confuse it to babel
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 12:50am On Apr 05, 2025
dum lost fraud jw janosky

there is a diffrence between "the word" (the holy scriptures) and "the Word" (the pre and post name of the Lord Jesus Christ)
"the Word" in john 1:3 Who made all that is made, and scripture shows that Jesus made all that is made, The Word = Jesus

"the Word" in john, is of course short for "the Word of God" in revelation, the Word of God is the post flesh Jesus returning to earth in a
robe dipped in blood


false Jehovah's witness:
Pro 14:5  A trustworthy witness will not lie, But a false witness utters lies.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47:
Jehovah's witnesses so called are twisters of Jehovah's word

often denying the Lord Jesus Christ and even Jehovah Himself, saying:- Jesus is not the Word, Jesus deceived thomas,
Jehovah is not all powerful/Almighty, Jehovah doesn't know it all, calling the Holy Spirit; ghost deity, unholy ghost etc.
and saying that He gives contradicting information etc. etc. etc.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:01am On Apr 05, 2025
Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂baba realise say I don catch am. Na to insult remain.
I never knew that the spirit of fanaticm is also working in the minds of people claiming Christians until i met these guys. Just imagine someone claiming he or she is a Christian insulting, abusing and cursing another person for what reason? Because that one's beliefs contradicts yours! undecided
But these same people will start crying that Boko Haram is attacking their fellow believers due to intolerance! huh
God that none of us had seen before yet believe in His existence, is it not the benefits of coming together that should serve as evidence that a spirit being is in our midst for our benefits? Isaiah 48:17-18
So if your gathering has no benefit other than arguing over what your god is or what it's not then is there any difference between these people and Boko Haram? embarassed
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 9:54am On Apr 05, 2025
Janosky:
the Word is a title.
the Word of God is a name.
lost fraud jw janosky

smiley how dum can one be, only false jw's wouldn't know that: the Word, is the Word of God,
if one is a name then they are both names, one is a short version, oh dum as they come false jw

if you say one is a title and not a name then show it, oh speaker of babel


1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25am On Apr 05, 2025
Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord? smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 12:16pm On Apr 05, 2025
Janosky:
John W MUMU very desperately WAILING against the definition of aggelos in his own post.

John W LYING miscreant, your own Bible says Jesus is aggelos.
You are LYING to yourself & you already knows that angel/messenger is aggelos.

The MUMU idiot say Jesus is messenger not angel
John W Very dunce MUMU.
grin grin grin
See this fool, wey talk say God send Jesus to create di universe 👀 before making a U-turn😂😂😂 all in a bid to avoid the Father doing something of his own will and being construed as a messenger of himself🤨.
Which totally renders his "messenger" appeal null and void, as it is theoretically an encompassing set🤨!

Till now, you never answer men🤨.
Whether your Jehovah 👀 is capable on doing something of his own will and accord🤨?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Gabrielshow24: 12:21pm On Apr 05, 2025
Janosky:
No mind that WAILING WAILER kiddo so fond of LYING to himself.
😂😂😂
Ah, the classic case of self-projection! It’s almost poetic how you accuse me of lying while you’re busy crafting your own fairy tales👀—like when you suggested that the 'spirit of trees' could be construed as angels. Talk about a stretch! But hey, if you’re going to wail, at least make it a symphony of your own delusions! 😂😂
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 12:23pm On Apr 05, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord? smiley
lost false jw mad max

the greek "agellos" means: "messenger", whether it be the Word or a angel or a human,
the hebrew "malak" means the same

Christ is the messanger of the Lord


ἄγγελος
aggelos
ang'-el-os
From ἀγγέλλω aggellō a messenger; an angel; a pastor


מַלְאָךְ
mal'âk
mal-awk'
a messenger; an angel a prophet, priest or teacher): - ambassador, king
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 12:38pm On Apr 05, 2025
Janosky:
John W MUMU very desperately WAILING against the definition of aggelos in his own post.
John W LYING miscreant, your own Bible says Jesus is aggelos.
You are LYING to yourself & you already knows that angel/messenger is aggelos.
The MUMU idiot say Jesus is messenger not angel
John W Very dunce MUMU.
grin grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost fraud jw janosky

talk about a dunce, and very confused, and blind as a bat, that's you alright

for the umpteenth time, aggelos means messenger, whether it be the Word, or a angel or a human
but go take another drink oh inebriate one

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them


you false jw's get angry when shown the truth, don't you
it shows in your bad language becoming even worse, doesn't it oh sewer mouth
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 5:03pm On Apr 05, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
According to JW teaching Jesus has been acting as God's spokesman in heaven
This is the point.

because of this is the reason Watchtower claimed Jesus is the Word.

So, you lied for saying Jesus ONLY BECAME THE WORD after his mission on earth.

That is the point.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:33pm On Apr 05, 2025
Emusan:
This is the point.

because of this is the reason Watchtower claimed Jesus is the Word.

So, you lied for saying Jesus ONLY BECAME THE WORD after his mission on earth.

That is the point.
The point is you don't believe in our teachings so you can't understand what we are teaching.
Jesus has been God's spokesman in heaven before coming to the earth but it's after his earthly mission that we know him that's what qualifies him to be God's spokesman both in heaven and on earth: The WORD of God! smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:44pm On Apr 05, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The point is you don't believe in our teachings so you can't understand what we are teaching.
Jesus has been God's spokesman in heaven before coming to the earth but it's after his earthly mission that we know him that's what qualifies him to be God's spokesman both in heaven and on earth: The WORD of God! smiley
Did AI also misconstrue Watchtower?

The fact that you lie can't justify my belief about Watchtower teaching.

It simply means you don't even understand the teaching of the body you claim you believe in cheesy cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:45pm On Apr 05, 2025
Emusan:
Did AI also misconstrue Watchtower?
Is AI part of those PRACTICING what JWs believe? smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Emusan(m): 6:53pm On Apr 05, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Is AI part of those PRACTICING what JWs believe? smiley
You haven't answered my question?

Did AI also misconstrue Watchtower?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:19pm On Apr 05, 2025
Emusan:
You haven't answered my question?
Did AI also misconstrue Watchtower?
I've answered because a machine can't explain the practical application of what we believe! wink
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Truthseeker10: 7:47am On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Kindly tell us how that aids your argument 🤨.
Michael is just one of the chief princes 🤔 either way you try to spin it!

Let us know, Wise one, what substantial proof this adds to your allusions🤨?


The fool will soon circumvent and run away😂😂😂
😂😂😂I thought you said Micheal was one of the "archangels" na, You don change mouth?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 8:40am On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂
Ah, the classic case of self-projection! It’s almost poetic how you accuse me of lying while you’re busy crafting your own fairy tales👀—like when you suggested that the 'spirit of trees' could be construed as angels. Talk about a stretch! But hey, if you’re going to wail, at least make it a symphony of your own delusions! 😂😂

Gabrielshow24,You well?


If you well,I challenge you to provide the evidence for your fairytale claim.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by Janosky: 8:46am On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
See this fool, wey talk say God send Jesus to create di universe 👀 before making a U-turn😂😂😂 all in a bid to avoid the Father doing something of his own will and being construed as a messenger of himself🤨.
Which totally renders his "messenger" appeal null and void, as it is theoretically an encompassing set🤨!

Till now, you never answer men🤨.
Whether your Jehovah 👀 is capable on doing something of his own will and accord🤨?

Gabrielshow24, very MUMU LYING miscreant.

God is not a messenger, Hebrew 1:1-2 is in your Bible.

Everyone knows that.
In fact that evidence is well known.
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