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Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 12:23pm On Apr 04, 2025
dollarnaira:
Amp of each cell...
6ah
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 1:47pm On Apr 04, 2025
Veew:
The charger is 14.6v 10amp, What kind of diode can i use and where can I get it from please?
get a 10A rectifier diode.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 2:01pm On Apr 04, 2025
officialfestus:
get a 10A rectifier diode.
Okay noss, I've asked 2 shops that sells solar equipments they don't have it. I'll keep searching.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 3:07pm On Apr 04, 2025
Veew:
6ah
But wait,
A 50a bms on a 4s4p at 6a is a very serious overkill.

Get a charger via converter at 1amp.

Get an active balancer.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 4:51pm On Apr 04, 2025
Veew:
Okay noss, I've asked 2 shops that sells solar equipments they don't have it. I'll keep searching.
you can tell them to give big diode for solar.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 5:22pm On Apr 04, 2025
dollarnaira:
Get a charger via converter at 1amp.
Sorry I don't understand this.

And can I still use an active balancer together with the passive balancer on the bms?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 5:25pm On Apr 04, 2025
Veew:
Sorry I don't understand this.

And can I still use an active balancer together with the passive balancer on the bms?
Yes
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 5:45pm On Apr 04, 2025
dollarnaira:
Yes
I don't understand the "charger via converter" part. I'm still a newbie
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Intellab(m): 10:51pm On Apr 04, 2025
AdexAyanfe:
Please guys, I need your inputs 🙏
I've been using the common small blue pmw solar charge controller, but I have to hook up a buck converter to it as advisedby some members here, just to monitor my li-ion battery voltage and ensure it doesn't go beyond 12.6. Because using my blue pmw solar charge controller, the lowest charge voltage is 12.7v, already above 12.6v.

Though beyond 12.6, the BMS will cut off charge in the long run, but I prefer it stops charging at 12.6.

Now what brings me here is that, I need advice on an affordable PMW solar charge controller that is effective, efficient and reliable for 12v Li-ion battery, such that I won't need buck converter to stabilise/stop charging my battery at 12.6vhuh

@Tetralogyfalot
@OfficialFestus
@Intellab
@Okikisgm
@saint2ace
@Dollarnaira

And others🙏🙏
Don’t use PMW for li-ion. Get MPPT or buck converter.
PMW only works well with deep cycle batteries.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Penuelseun(m): 6:27am On Apr 05, 2025
Intellab:
Don’t use PMW for li-ion. Get MPPT or buck converter.
PMW only works well with deep cycle batteries.
Any controller type can work well with li-ion, it is your configuration and setup that matters, about 4 customers of mine has been using li-ion battery packs I built for them for close to 4yrs now, pwm charge controllers were used in all the installations.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 6:29am On Apr 05, 2025
Intellab:
Don’t use PMW for li-ion. Get MPPT or buck converter.
PMW only works well with deep cycle batteries.
What do you mean by "only works with...."?
Probably you use an uneditable ones which is strictly for lead acid batteries.

The are pwm with settings as mppt but not common. Any BCS....pwm will work with any battery chemistry.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Jabez55: 6:56pm On Apr 05, 2025
olujosh301:
What if you're using a charge controller?
Is 20a safe?
Also what's the recommended float, absorption for 4s 16.8v lion battery
please what your experience using a 4s lithium battery pack configured
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Intellab(m): 9:53pm On Apr 05, 2025
dollarnaira:
What do you mean by "only works with...."?
Probably you use an uneditable ones which is strictly for lead acid batteries.

The are pwm with settings as mppt but not common. Any BCS....pwm will work with any battery chemistry.
Mine has editable settings, still doesn't charge my pack. It even reduces its performance. A lot of folks knows PWM isn't good for 18650 batteries. Why do you suggest it?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 10:38pm On Apr 05, 2025
Intellab:
Mine has editable settings, still doesn't charge my pack. It even reduces its performance. A lot of folks knows PWM isn't good for 18650 batteries. Why do you suggest it?
Who are the alot of folks?
Get a good pwm and enjoy your system.
It had been installed by me and even Penuelseun mentioned it also. Snap your pwm. No user here agreed with your claim.

So because yours don't work well, others too won't? Hope it is not those cheap pwm? Is there a sticker on it?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 10:50pm On Apr 05, 2025
Veew:
I don't understand the "charger via converter" part. I'm still a newbie
Buck converter controls the output desired voltage.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 7:28am On Apr 06, 2025
officialfestus:
get a 10A rectifier diode.
I got the 10a rectifier diode, open up the charger and solder it to the positive wire. It did stop the reverse current flow but when I take the voltage reading from the charger mouth, the voltage dropped from 14.6v to 13.7v. I understand it's due to the internal resistance of the diode but I want to know if that will be a problem for the BMS on the long run
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 7:30am On Apr 06, 2025
dollarnaira:
Buck converter controls the output desired voltage.
So the converter should be set to 1amp?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Trippledots(m): 9:03am On Apr 06, 2025
moneymind:
Lithium cells for sale. Recently upgraded my pack to lfp cells.

N600 per piece. N500 if you are buying everything. 17s bms also for sale, 100amps, N35k.
I'm in Benin. 08036761triple8
Still available?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 9:10am On Apr 06, 2025
Veew:
I got the 10a rectifier diode, open up the charger and solder it to the positive wire. It did stop the reverse current flow but when I take the voltage reading from the charger mouth, the voltage dropped from 14.6v to 13.7v. I understand it's due to the internal resistance of the diode but I want to know if that will be a problem for the BMS on the long run
No
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 10:28am On Apr 06, 2025
officialfestus:
No
Thank you sir
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by okikigsm: 4:55pm On Apr 06, 2025
Trippledots:
Still available?
Na miracle be that o,looking at d dateu hide your face for so long boss
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by ewizard1: 5:39pm On Apr 06, 2025
Veew:
The charger is 14.6v 10amp, What kind of diode can i use and where can I get it from please?
A >10A Schottky diode like the MBRF20100CT. You need to mount it on a heatsink as it gets warm/hot when delivering current through it.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 8:11pm On Apr 06, 2025
Veew:
So the converter should be set to 1amp?
It depends on the type of buck converter.
Some can edit amp while some are defaulted to 5a fixed.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 10:13pm On Apr 06, 2025
ewizard1:
A >10A Schottky diode like the MBRF20100CT. You need to mount it on a heatsink as it gets warm/hot when delivering current through it.
Yes you're right, I noticed this.
I'm planing to extend the wiring to place the diode close to the fan of the charger since the fan on the charger is always on while charging
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Queed: 7:25am On Apr 07, 2025
Veew:
I got the 10a rectifier diode, open up the charger and solder it to the positive wire. It did stop the reverse current flow but when I take the voltage reading from the charger mouth, the voltage dropped from 14.6v to 13.7v. I understand it's due to the internal resistance of the diode but I want to know if that will be a problem for the BMS on the long run
Hope you included a small heat sink for the diode?
Because 10A at 1V drop out is 10W and it's a lot of heat power for a free running diode. The voltage drop is topical for diode (0.3v to over 1v depending on lot of factors). The diode should fix the reverse current issue, perhaps it's faulty or not properly connected. Finally, the 13.7v would not be a problem for the BMS.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 10:10pm On Apr 07, 2025
Queed:
Hope you included a small heat sink for the diode?
Because 10A at 1V drop out is 10W and it's a lot of heat power for a free running diode. The voltage drop is topical for diode (0.3v to over 1v depending on lot of factors). The diode should fix the reverse current issue, perhaps it's faulty or not properly connected. Finally, the 13.7v would not be a problem for the BMS.
I was hoping the fan inside the charger would expel the heat from the diode.

I did say it stopped the reverse current, but I think the charging might be slower now because of the voltage drop.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Veew: 10:15pm On Apr 07, 2025
I need 4S active balancer. Anyone here selling within lagos?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by moneymind: 4:49am On Apr 08, 2025
Trippledots:
Still available?
Yes, message me 08036761triple8
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 7:22am On Apr 08, 2025
@veew
You just dey stress yourself up and down grin.
6ah 4s system is too tiny to slap a whole 50a bms.

Get an active balancer which is the most important to prevent voltage inbalance.

Charge via a buck converter set to your desired voltage and have peace of mind.

By the way, will you use inverter for this set up? What are your loads?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 7:24am On Apr 08, 2025
moneymind:
Yes, message me 08036761triple8
So this things still dey?
The economy is truly bad.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by moneymind: 9:13am On Apr 08, 2025
dollarnaira:
So this things still dey?
The economy is truly bad.
My brother country hard, lol.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by moneymind:
210 pieces available, 2500mah. N600 bulk price.

14s Bluetooth bms, 100amps N30k

Whatsapp or call 08036761triple8

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