₦airaland Forum

Slytiger:
The Aworis that are majorly the owners of Lagos and some parts of Ogun always find their way to Ife. The progenitor of the Awori is an Ife prince called Ogunfunminire. The Alaafin is not recognized. The Oba of Benin is even more respected on the Lagos island.

We are talking about Yoruba and you are here talking about Lagos Island. Lol

People with mumbojombo history lol

Slytiger:
Alaafin is called Ikeji, Ekeji orisha. While the Ooni is the Oorisha.
You must be smoking Canadian loud.

Olodo

Igbalode Yoruba man

Half Edo....Half Awori

Lagos Island and their wahala

DeOTR:
Was Oduduwa ever a King? If yes, where was his kingdom?

Oduduwa na our baba

Baba to all

Fact

His children founded kingdoms bro

Oya, come and start marrying plenty wives

maidstone:
Oduduwa na our baba

Baba to all

Fact

His children founded kingdoms bro

You didn't answer the question I asked but it's understandable, because it'll destroy your argument.

maidstone:
Lol

Gone for good ke

Yoruba descendants will bring it back

See this Omo Oyo

If Russia can't bring back USSR
If British can't bring back British empire
If Rome can't bring back Roman empire

Who be Oyo, just dolt in a circle

maidstone:
Continue with your fantasy

Ooni is lower to Alaafin in standing. Kiss the truth

I engage in intellectual debate sir I don't engage with emotional thinkers

maidstone:
Up to Brazil, Cuba, etc, Alaafin is seen as the main leader of the Yoruba

The only one recognised even in the British parliament

I once said it that Oyos should sometimes try to leave their shores. Ile-ife is seen as the cradle of all yorubas and Oduduwa throne remained sacred to us. This same Oyo egocentric is what led to the fall of Oyo empire. Present Oyo today was an IDP camp that was turned to a town

maidstone:
That's a lie

I'm not sure about Ekiti. But, Osun monarchs align with Alaafin

Give us the names of those kings from who align with Alaafin. Same Alaafin who isn't even the permanrnt chairman of traditional rulers in Oyo state

Ooni remains father to all entire Yoruba race, we are all from ife unless you want tell us we are from Oyo

maidstone:
Olodo like you

1903 is even recent in the history of the Yoruba people

Moreover, the British recognised the paramount position of Alaafin in Yorubaland

Till today, all the Obas in Osun state see Alaafin as their real leader

Go and find out

The same British that recognized Alaafin were the one who changed their stand when they discovered the true Yoruba history. British regards the Ooni as the paramount ruler.
When the Queen of England first came to Nigeria, did she visited Oyo Infact Alaafin was put in an edge in the pictures they took then. Same Alaafin wey Oba of Benin senior in rank

DeOTR:
You didn't answer the question I asked but it's understandable, because it'll destroy your argument.

Another lie

Oduduwa never really operated as an Oba. He was more of an Ifa man. He simply birthed kings

Answer this question: did you hear much about Ife Obaship before the turn of the 20th century?

No. Ooni's elevation is essentially tied to the politics of Awolowo

Go and read your history

Adexxi:
The same British that recognized Alaafin were the one who changed their stand when they discovered the true Yoruba history. British regards the Ooni as the paramount ruler.
When the Queen of England first came to Nigeria, did she visited Oyo Infact Alaafin was put in an edge in the pictures they took then. Same Alaafin wey Oba of Benin senior in rank

You know nothing

The only Naija Oba whose picture frame is conspiracy hanged at the Buckingham Palace is Alaafin

No other Oba in Yorubaland or Naija comes close

Adexxi:
Give us the names of those kings from who align with Alaafin. Same Alaafin who isn't even the permanrnt chairman of traditional rulers in Oyo state

Ooni remains father to all entire Yoruba race, we are all from ife unless you want tell us we are from Oyo

Timi

Oluwo

Owa

Orangutan

Etc

Adexxi:
I once said it that Oyos should sometimes try to leave their shores. Ile-ife is seen as the cradle of all yorubas and Oduduwa throne remained sacred to us. This same Oyo egocentric is what led to the fall of Oyo empire. Present Oyo today was an IDP camp that was turned to a town

Oyo was an empire. All empires experience upheaval. It's a normal thing to go through if you ever venture to become an empire. Well, Ife never dared anything. We all know who dares wins. Ife never dared

From Mongol empire to British empire to Ottoman empire to Russian empire, upheaval defined them all. Becoming an empire no be moin moin

It's part of their greatness.

Adexxi:
I engage in intellectual debate sir I don't engage with emotional thinkers

Yet, you haven't come up with any intellectual stuff for the past 48 hours

You are only catching fun. The same Ife that Oba of Benin has refused to accept as superior. He throws jabs at the Ooni yearly

Lol


Benin people dare not mention Alaafin at all

Adexxi:
See this Omo Oyo

If Russia can't bring back USSR
If British can't bring back British empire
If Rome can't bring back Roman empire

Who be Oyo, just dolt in a circle

.

The empire lives and reigns. It's there in your daily activities but you just don't know. The reborn, the renaissance, the reawakening is in full gear, too

Which Yoruba dialect is accepted as standard today? Which Yoruba dialect is expressed in Yoruba books as standard? Which Yoruba dialect is taught in schools?

Trace the etymology of standard Yoruba words and you will find the Oyo emblem in them all. You embody Oyo kingdom, daily - in words and in deed. Oyo has you colonised. Live with the truth

Above all, I'm not trying to denigrate the Ooni stool. Just putting the records straight. Proper historical information. From the perspective of an impartial bystander

Alaafin is Oba nla ti n fi Oba je for a reason. He enthroned kings, from Ogbomoso to Ilorin, from Ilorin to Ede. Name it. Oyo empire greatness is ubiquitous

Which Oba does the Ooni control? Not even the next-door Modakeke

Ife is our cradle. The real cradle of blackman's civilization

The Ooni stool remains reverred, and forever so

God bless

maidstone:
Another lie

Oduduwa never really operated as an Oba. He was more of an Ifa man. He simply birthed kings

Answer this question: did you hear much about Ife Obaship before the turn of the 20th century?

No. Ooni's elevation is essentially tied to the politics of Awolowo

Go and read your history

The 42nd Ooni, Adegunle Adewela ruled from 1839-1849 and you're talking about if anybody hears about any Ooni Obaship until 100 years after this time? Do you know that the current Ooni is from the Giesi ruling house, the 20th Ooni to grace the throne? You are claiming a rulership that once had Ogun as the Ooni an invention of Awolowo in the 20th century? You try.
At least, we can agree that Ile Ife is the cradle of Yorubas and I don't think anyone can ever grow up to be their father no matter how great they are. Oyo might be great militarily, and that's it. The seat of Oduduwa will forever be greater. Oranmiyan, the founder of Oyo, was the 6th Ooni. I don't understand the confusion here.

DeOTR:
The 42nd Ooni, Adegunle Adewela ruled from 1839-1849 and you're talking about if anybody hears about any Ooni Obaship until 100 years after this time? Do you know that the current Ooni is from the Giesi ruling house, the 20th Ooni to grace the throne? You are claiming a rulership that once had Ogun as the Ooni an invention of Awolowo in the 20th century? You try.
At least, we can agree that Ile Ife is the cradle of Yorubas and I don't think anyone can ever grow up to be their father no matter how great they are. Oyo might be great militarily, and that's it. The seat of Oduduwa will forever be greater. Oranmiyan, the founder of Oyo, was the 6th Ooni. I don't understand the confusion here.

Lol

This is wishy-washy at best

Well, I'm at least happy you hailed the greatness of the Oyo empire

maidstone:
You know nothing

The only Naija Oba whose picture frame is conspiracy hanged at the Buckingham Palace is Alaafin

No other Oba in Yorubaland or Naija comes close

Send the frame make we see. Oyo people and their mouth The same way we were told that Trump, Putin, Xi, Macron etal will attend the coronation, till now no evidence

maidstone:
Timi

Oluwo

Owa

Orangutan

Etc

How dare you count Oluwo tho he doesn't worth the throne, Owa to acknowledge Alaafin. You know nothing bro. Ijesha,Ife, Ondo, Ekiti, Ijebu were never under your defeated empire. So which other yorubas remain. Colonisising Ibarapa, Ignoho, Iseyin and claiming Lord over we authentic Omo Oduduwa.

Same Oyo that ordinary funlani displaced thrice

maidstone:
Yet, you haven't come up with any intellectual stuff for the past 48 hours

You are only catching fun. The same Ife that Oba of Benin has refused to accept as superior. He throws jabs at the Ooni yearly

Lol


Benin people dare not mention Alaafin at all

Same Oba of Benin that acknowledged Ooni and even claim he is from Oduduwa dynasty during his coronation. You think say na mumu u dey follow talk

I stand on this Oba Benin is above Alaafin in ranks

Alaafin doesn't even have a crown, he stole one from......
No vex me bro make I no talk that usual adage that Oyo people hate to hear ;

maidstone:
Lol

This is wishy-washy at best

Well, I'm at least happy you hailed the greatness of the Oyo empire

And we are also happy that you accepted that Ile-ife as the cradle of yorubas and that all we yorubas were from Oduduwa dynasty

Yorubas are not from that displaced Oyo(4 times)

Adexxi:
And we are also happy that you accepted that Ile-ife as the cradle of yorubas and that all we yorubas were from Oduduwa dynasty

Yorubas are not from that displaced Oyo(4 times)

Displaced you call it?

Do you know that London was not the original capital of England? Olodo

Adexxi:
Same Oba of Benin that acknowledged Ooni and even claim he is from Oduduwa dynasty during his coronation. You think say na mumu u dey follow talk

I stand on this Oba Benin is above Alaafin in ranks

Alaafin doesn't even have a crown, he stole one from......
No vex me bro make I no talk that usual adage that Oyo people hate to hear ;

I was trying to embellish Ife before

Let me tell you, truly truly, Ooni was an abore to kings in Yorubaland

Kiss the truth

Read your history

Adexxi:
How dare you count Oluwo tho he doesn't worth the throne, Owa to acknowledge Alaafin. You know nothing bro. Ijesha,Ife, Ondo, Ekiti, Ijebu were never under your defeated empire. So which other yorubas remain. Colonisising Ibarapa, Ignoho, Iseyin and claiming Lord over we authentic Omo Oduduwa.

Same Oyo that ordinary funlani displaced thrice

Awujale has never acknowledged Ooni. Go and find out

The only Oba Ijebu people respect is Alaafin

Adexxi:
How dare you count Oluwo tho he doesn't worth the throne, Owa to acknowledge Alaafin. You know nothing bro. Ijesha,Ife, Ondo, Ekiti, Ijebu were never under your defeated empire. So which other yorubas remain. Colonisising Ibarapa, Ignoho, Iseyin and claiming Lord over we authentic Omo Oduduwa.

Same Oyo that ordinary funlani displaced thrice

Moreover, who's talking about the current Oluwo? We are talking about the stool

maidstone:
Above all, I'm not trying to denigrate the Ooni stool. Just putting the records straight. Proper historical information. From the perspective of an impartial bystander

Alaafin is Oba nla ti n fi Oba je for a reason. He enthroned kings, from Ogbomoso to Ilorin, from Ilorin to Ede. Name it. Oyo empire greatness is ubiquitous

Which Oba does the Ooni control? Not even the next-door Modakeke

Ife is our cradle. The real cradle of blackman's civilization

The Ooni stool remains reverred, and forever so

God bless

Dey play Omo Oyo..... Modakeke don't have a king from outset, they only have baale. It was Ooni who elevated them to the ranks of obas during Aregbesola era.

Ooni remains co-chairman National Council of Traditional rulers(NCTR), a post shared by Ooni and Sultan. What post do Alaafin among those ranks, even Etsu of Nupe senior Alaafin at national level

Tell Alaafin to hold Oyo state council of traditional rulers, I wan see who go chair that gathering ..... Oyo and ego
We other yorubas will always be against all Oyo self-centerdness... Awom Omo dead empire

Adexxi:
Send the frame make we see. Oyo people and their mouth The same way we were told that Trump, Putin, Xi, Macron etal will attend the coronation, till now no evidence

Ooni that's desperate for the same recognition that the Alaafin enjoys outside Nigeria. Throwing money about in Canada just in a desperate bid to be recognised

While Alaafin effortlessly gets accorded all the respect in the world

Abeg, go and marry more wives for him. That's what you guys do best

maidstone:
Moreover, who's talking about the current Oluwo? We are talking about the stool

Okay and that stool belongs to the cradle of yorubas. Their progenitor is a king from Ile-ife..... Seek your fact bro before coming to embarrass Oyo people here

Adexxi:
Okay and that stool belongs to the cradle of yorubas. Their progenitor is a king from Ile-ife..... Seek your fact bro before coming to embarrass Oyo people here

Ife progenitor but pays homage to Alaafin

Lol

As Yoruba, we trace everything to Ife because of Oduduwa

Doesn't mean Ooni wasn't an abore

maidstone:
Awujale has never acknowledged Ooni. Go and find out

The only Oba Ijebu people respect is Alaafin

Same Awujale who was ready to send another Alaafin into exile. Ijebus were never subservient to Oyo. Their history was traced backed to Ile-ife, the cradle of we yorubas and not displaced Oyo(IDP camp)