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| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by ivandragon: 9:39am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:If the cap fits... you obviously wear it proudly. But why did this trigger you? You have made snide remarks in response to others too... Don't like the taste of your own pudding? |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by SmartEnergyng(m): 9:53am On Apr 07, 2025 |
chidiokay:Ah, “feigning stupidity,” you say? Fascinating choice of words—from someone who's working overtime to pretend [b]**complexity is ignorance**. Let me flip it back at you: maybe the only one **“feigning intelligence”** [/b]here is the one who walks into a nuanced economic debate and expects every answer to come gift-wrapped with applause lines and short-term miracles. But let’s take your points—since we’re here for clarity, not clapbacks. [b] 📌 **Point 1: “Anyone can have a PhD. Intelligence lies in impact.”** True. And that’s precisely why **your argument collapses on itself**. Because when someone with that much education and experience spends his time simplifying policy for public understanding, he’s doing exactly what *impactful economists* are supposed to do—**translating complexity into clarity.** Impact isn’t always building a dam. Sometimes, it’s helping a country walk through the storm **without losing its sense of direction**. Fasua has: - Advised the presidency during one of the most difficult economic transitions in decades. - Helped draft policy that prioritizes[b] **internal production over external illusions**.[/b] - Spent years creating jobs through SME development, running businesses, and mentoring entrepreneurs—real people, real jobs. That’s tangible. Maybe not flashy. But **real work rarely comes with confetti.** 📌 **Point 2: “You shouldn’t compare $1 with ₦1,500. Compare the lowest unit of both currencies.”** I see you’re reaching deep into the bag of analogies—but you’ve pulled out the[b] **wrong scale**.[/b] This is where your logic breaks down: In economics, **purchasing power parity (PPP)** doesn’t compare coins. It compares **value in terms of what you can buy locally**. [/b]You don’t compare a dime to a kobo—you compare [b]**how far a person’s money goes in each country**. So no, we don’t compare ₦10 to 10 cents. We compare **what ₦1,500 can buy in Nigeria vs what $10 can buy in the U.S.** That’s the whole point Fasua was making. The fact that you missed it doesn’t make him stupid—it just shows **you came to a chess match swinging a frying pan.** 📌 **Point 3: “Highlight one real, relatable impact of Tope Fasua’s work.”** Let’s try: - Championing economic literacy across TV, print, and podcasts in a country where misinformation runs wild. - Supporting SME policy frameworks and entrepreneurship as a private sector actor. - Helping shape **non-theoretical, boots-on-ground policy advice** that supports long-term reform—whether you like the reforms or not. But here’s the real irony: you ask for **"tangible impact"** while contributing nothing but **tangible bitterness**. If policy must be shouted or sponsored by Hollywood before you recognize it, then maybe **you’re not actually looking for impact—you’re looking for theatre.** --- ✅ **Final Word:** You don’t have to like Fasua. You don’t have to agree with him. But let’s stop pretending that a man offering honest, accessible policy insights during a tough time is the villain—while those who gave us cosmetic economics are suddenly heroes in hindsight. As we say, *“If you break the drum that carried you to the dance floor, don’t complain when the music stops.”* Don’t knock the man cleaning up the mess just because **you preferred the illusion that made the mess look pretty.** |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by Agbegbaorogboye: 9:56am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:First of all, you're too verbose in your reply. You need to keep to points raised and simmer down on bold fonts. Secondly, don't be pained that I corrected you. You attacked me that I do not have good knowledge of the man but you ended up telling a lie about same man. That I corrected your lie shows I have better knowledge than you. And for the record Public Administration is not Economics. In fact, it is far from economics. It is more of political science My point which I made ab initio still stands: Fasua as the Presiden't Chief Economic Adviser should be speaking on macroeconomics and not on how much will fetch lunch. He has not, I repeat, he has not given any details on how to expand our economy in his public interventions since he took this role. He's been mostly gaslighting Nigerians on how much they need to appreciate what's going on instead. That's not the job of an economic adviser. He's fumbling and seems out of depth in my humble opinion. The focus of an economic adviser for a developing nation such as Nigeria should be on how to expand the economy not gaslighting people about parity or disparity. |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by purples25(f): 9:57am On Apr 07, 2025 |
I agree with you. |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by SmartEnergyng(m): 10:03am On Apr 07, 2025 |
ivandragon:Ah, *ẹ̀bẹ̀rù Ọlọ́run o*! 😄 “Trigger”? Me? My brother, if na small pepper dey your pudding, **no be me wey cook am**. You say I wore the cap proudly—but let’s be honest: **if you’re busy flinging caps into a crowd, don’t act shocked when someone adjusts it and strikes a pose.** And no, I wasn’t triggered—I just thought I’d return the[b] *snide energy*[/b] you’ve been serving others, now plated and garnished with logic. You see, some of us crack jokes with[b] **coconut oil**[/b], others just bring the empty shell. But thanks for confirming it’s a pudding we’re tasting now. 😄 Just make sure next time, **you season it with sense—not only spice.** By the way, have you converted your car to CNG yet, or are you still burning petrol like it’s 2015? 😄 If you’re in Abuja, I’m feeling generous—40% discount for you, just show face before I change my mind! |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:06am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:But don't you think in terms of purchasing power parity that it is illogical to compare $10 with N10,000 Shoulsn't it be comparing like for like, that is, $10 with N10? |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by SmartEnergyng(m): 10:19am On Apr 07, 2025 |
Agbegbaorogboye:Ah, yes—I’ve been called many things, but this is the first time someone has accused me of **high-voltage verbosity**. 😄 Fair enough! I’ll simmer down. I hear you. Since you enjoy giving advice, let me return the favour in kind… **succinctly.** And just so we start on a good note—because I believe in reconciliation—I’d like to offer you a **40% discount on your CNG conversion** if you're in Abuja. That way, you’ll stop burning fuel[b] *and*[/b] energy on long threads. 😂 Now, let’s address your points, quick and clean: --- 📌 **1. “You lied. Public Administration is not Economics.”** You’re technically right, and I never argued otherwise. But you’re **mistaking discipline boundaries for capacity boundaries.** A person with a PhD in Public Policy and a background in finance, plus real-world business experience and over a decade of public economic commentary, is more than qualified to **advise on economic strategy**—especially in a country where most of our economic issues are entangled with governance, regulation, and institutional reform. Economics doesn’t live in an ivory tower. **It lives where people queue at filling stations and markets adjust prices based on vibes.** 📌 **2. “Fasua talks about lunch instead of macroeconomics.”** I get that it may irritate you—but what he’s doing is **public economic interpretation**. He’s explaining **purchasing power**, **currency perception**, and the need for **internal benchmarking** in a relatable way. You might not like the *"boli-and-fish economics,"* but **it’s a powerful communication tool in a country where technical reports don’t reach the man on the street.** And let’s be honest—*you’ve been talking about his boli for two days straight. Clearly, it landed.* 😄 --- 📌 **3. “He hasn’t offered strategy to expand the economy.”** That’s a stretch. He has spoken on: - **SME financing reform** - **Tax net expansion** - **FX policy** - And the importance of local productivity But here’s the thing: **He’s not the Finance Minister. He’s an adviser.** He makes recommendations, **not declarations from a throne.** You want a blueprint? That’s for cabinet members to roll out. If you’re only listening to Fasua for GDP policy announcements, then you're tuning into the wrong frequency. --- ✅ **Final Word:** You may think he’s gaslighting. I think he’s explaining hard truths without hiding behind jargon. You may think he’s fumbling. I think he's **doing the job of a calm interpreter in a time when the mob wants fire and fury**. And even if we disagree, at least let’s admit: **we’ve both said a lot more than most people who claim to care about Nigeria.** Now come collect your CNG discount before I change my mind. We may not agree on economics—but at least we’ll both save on petrol. 😎 |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by Tochi3(m): 10:27am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:.. ..Baptist.. ![]()
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| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by ivandragon: 10:44am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:Empty barrels and noises... I would not risk my life and those of my loved ones to patronise a questionable character like you on such sensitive matter. Because if an explosion should occur based on your incompetence, you will probably blame me for believing you... lol. Thanks, but no thanks. |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by Agbegbaorogboye: 10:45am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:I still think you don't understand what an economic adviser does. You're right he's to make recommendations. So what recommendations has he made? Boli and fish I still insist his focus should be on macroeconomics. All this treatise on $10 to N1500 is gaslighting. He should offer ideas on how to reinflate the macroeconomic environment And stop making excuses on his behalf except you're paid to do so. We can disagree on how he's doing his job but you don't need to deflect or tell outright lies on his behalf. I don't believe in CNG. Sorry. But I can make recommendations if you give your address |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by chidiokay: 10:55am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:When you have meaningful contributions backed with results .. prevarications won't be a lifeline ... are you a poet Before you misconstrue my context, Maybe Nigerians have outgrown "applaud lines" and we all agree naa only Jesus "Miracle" no dey taya ... so your interpretation is just a mischief If Tope intention is to simplify economic policies then he did an awful job, cos both the elites & illiterate dont buy the wack analysis he gave, a mere common sense who have flawed Tope pov, how do you justify a worst performing currency lemme ask, is Tope really about the people or he is trying to earn his pay, Nigerians are not fool naw i tried to leave the messenger and dwell on the message If Fisua had advised the govt at our most challenging time, so what depict the economic is out of challenging times, give one tangible result to validate, please Between you and I, what are the indexes that portray prioritized local production so far ... have productivity increased where??Thats you own bo'lè kaja economic, In standard economic purchasing power btwn two nation is guaged purely on "minimum wage" it an abberation to use $ to juxtapose cost of living a country with valuless currency Yoruba adage says, Oun ti o ba jora la"fin wey ará wòn i.e compare whats alike Pick Us lowest currency and compare with Nigeria lowest currency, highest vs highest thats the logical scale or go minimum wage Everything you said about Tope resonates paper works that never transcend beyond illusions, since you cant place the results |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by FreeThinkerPlut(op): 11:49am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:Your response to my thread tries to spin Dr. Fasua’s remarks into some noble push for rethinking Nigeria’s economic value beyond exchange rates, but it’s a shaky defense built on misdirection and half-cooked ideas. Let’s break it down. You start with that yam-and-potato analogy—“judging a yam’s worth by the size of a potato in another man’s farm.” It’s a nice line, but it sidesteps the real issue. Exchange rates aren’t just some foreign yardstick to ignore—they’re a harsh truth for Nigeria, where imports like fuel, machinery, and medicine keep the country running. When the naira crashes, those costs explode, and no “internal sense of value” can wish away the fact that local production can’t fill the gap. You’re asking Nigerians to tune out the global forces crushing their finances—like telling someone with a leaking roof to admire the couch instead of patching the hole. You say Fasua’s pushing for a value system untied to the dollar, rooted in local productivity and pricing. Sounds great, except Nigeria’s economy isn’t an island. Oil pays the bills, imports keep the lights on, and the dollar’s grip isn’t an “obsession” or “imported idol”—it’s a structural lifeline. Telling Nigerians to stop fixating on exchange rates is like telling a fish to forget about water. It’s not an option in a globalized world. Fasua’s “what can the naira buy in Onitsha or Osogbo” line falls flat when you don’t explain why its buying power keeps eroding— inflation, devaluation, and stagnant output. Where’s the fix? Then you pull out purchasing power parity (PPP) like it’s a trump card. Sure, it’s a legit concept—money buys more where costs are lower. N10,000 gets you a meal, a ride, and airtime in Abuja, while $10 barely covers a sandwich in New York. But so what? That just proves my point from the thread: N10,000 is a big deal for a Nigerian scraping by on $2,000 a year, while $10 is nothing to an American earning $70,000. PPP doesn’t erase poverty or inflation—it just shows the obvious: stuff’s cheaper in poorer places because people earn less. You act like this is some deep revelation, but it’s a shiny distraction from the real question—why can’t Nigeria’s economy lift its people higher? You say critics like me “missed the forest and set fire to the leaves,” but you’re the one wandering off trail. Fasua’s take—and your defense—skips the big problems: a collapsing naira, an import-heavy economy, and a government fumbling subsidy cuts while tossing out snack anecdotes. “Value is contextual” isn’t wisdom; it’s a truism that solves nothing. If Fasua meant to kick off a “conversation” about local purchasing power, he flopped by not linking it to real steps—ramping up manufacturing, stabilizing the currency, or fighting corruption. Instead, we get platitudes and boli tales. Your counter’s a thin shield for Fasua’s weak analysis. It paints his disconnect as insight, asking Nigerians to look down at their local markets instead of up at the global stage—while dodging why those markets are buckling. The naira’s value isn’t just what it buys at home; it’s why it’s failing everywhere else. That’s the forest you’re missing through your own haze. And could you stop using bold fonts? FreeThinker from Pluto |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by dettolgel: 11:55am On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:If you are not Dr. Fasua why the epistle? I think if there is anyone that needs a comprehension lessons you sure should be at the top of the list. Meanwhile, I wasn't the one that advised you to make such a silly mistake. ![]() Even someone with SS1 level of economics wouldn't make such a silly mistake. You can always come back and wail some more. ![]() |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by Chibuezem(m): 12:08pm On Apr 07, 2025 |
SmartEnergyng:Thank you Kind Human |
| Re: $1 Buys A Meal In Nigeria, But $10 Won’t Fix The Economy: A Reality Check by Kobicove(m): 3:02pm On Apr 15, 2025 |
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