₦airaland Forum

dettolgel:
Trump tariff according to Trump is to correct the trade in balance . What Trump did realize is that they are the more buying from China because they sent their production line to China because it is cheaper to produce in China than to produce in the USA.
Secondly, the manufacturing he wants to bring to the US isn't going to happen over night.

Chinese might just open offices in Vietnam produce in China and export to US via Vietnam.

I don't really care about what they do. However, I know for sure that Donald Trump and the USA are not dumb.

Vietnam, Taiwan, India and Japan can be used to replace China and the Yen abi yuan devalued...Apple is making moves to India....so I learnt.

Anyways... that's their headache. I'm more interested in how Nigeria can position herself to benefit from all these.

PS: I was only educating the young lady on what retaliatory tariffs actually means.

udemzyudex:
That's what Trump is trying to stop or reduce.

so aptly put.
In all his long posts, he still couldn't see the danger in allowing your production to go outside.
He thinks everybody is a Blackman

Acekidc4:
Their problem🥱 Let them go from Trade war to Nuclear War, me and president Tinubu no care. What we care about is to make Nigeria more greater💯

Body go soon tell. You and who dey make Nigeria greater? You are perpetually drunk and your eyes no go ever clear until that manipulator, unprincipled thief is out of office.

michroskrve:
See your life . AMERICA is not supper power when it comes to local markets. China leads. Virtually every used in USS is been produced or imported from China
America needs china

Ode confidently dey type rubbish

tunapawizzy:
US sells $143bn to china, China sells $438bn to US
US is the largest importer of goods from China at $438bn, the next is Hong Kong at $138bn followed by Japan $74.11bn, South Korea $72.77 bn and Vietnam $77.83 bn.
And you think na US go still suffer am? Do you honestly think inbetween ramping up production capacity and looking at alternative markets, the US will not find a solution. Do you how many of those Chinese brains producing in China that are begging for the option of moving their production plants to US. I hope China will not use this trade war to expose herself

Bros this people no know if America promise Europe and japan great trade reduction or zero tariff if they place equally or far more greater tariff on china. China will hear whine

SeaTrade:
Na money them dey use "rejig" ,no be blockos
And last I checked it don't fall off the sky.
Canada will be the next US how?
One nation too big to lose,China go learn.EoD.

US only purchases 15% of China’s production output.

Stop making them appear superhuman.

tuoyoojo:
China said they would fight to the end

China and US need each other but trump wants to bully his way to dominance but China is no push over

The worse that can happen would soon happen, all trades with the two nations would stop.

If that happens both of them would bleed profusely

It is a useless war that would achieve nothing

They tried sanctions against Russia and Russia still prospered. US wan test the mic on china

What if America gets its allies to place similar or worst tariffs on china, with promise of zero or lower tariff.

I think China go hear am.

China Play, force Africa to buy more. And since china is in control of 70% of the processing of the world critical elements,
Then really devalue their currency to still make Chinese goods really cheap no matter the tarriff. china still have a card to play

inoki247:
Lol if you take your business to States are you going to be paying the same wages like the one being paid to Chinese. When you factorize US minimum wage in your cost of Production so to you it will still be cheaper...

What if it's taken to Mexico

AndroBlaze:
I could repeat the same back to you too. The US market is 300 million people, China's market is 1.4 billion alone .

Also US is not actually there biggest trading partner (the no1 country though), ASEAN and EU countries exceed the value of trade with the US, and that will continue too grow, with everyone also imposing tariffs on US goods.

This battle Trump is trying to fight is a long-term battle and can never be won in the 4 years he has. Pretty stupid.

Did the next administration after Trump's first term reduce or changed trump policies against china?
What if Europe seeing that china is actually trying to kill them by slowing killing their local industry in Europe by overcapacity, great subsidies, no back ward integration for anything not Chinese and align with trump to place massive tariff on china with a promise of reduce or zero tarrif from America

sparko1:
He can't reduce minimum wage, he can't restrict regulatory agencies, he is trying to force the companies back to the country,
But the reason they left can't be addressed.

Even those still in the country do most of the labour intensive parts in China and complete the rest in USA.

What he doesn't know is, the reverse will be the case, once everyone starts paying in the US for the tariff,
those still in the country will have an excuse to raise their price, and when they discover they are still not making enough profit
they will move as well.

Let me give you an example for cheap labour.

In Nigeria, if you want to do renovation, you can decide to pay the state government agency some money and they will allow you,
You then go ahead and employ who can do the job, be it bricklayer, painters, welder, as far as they are good, you negotiate with them
and they go ahead and do the Job.

In UK for example, you can't do that, before you begin anything, at least 3 to 5 regulatory agencies will visit, depending on if it's residential, commercial, factory, the kind of facilities that you want to use, waste management, water, gas.
Then when you want to employ workers, you can't just pick anyone, they must have certifications, register with appropriate body.
Sometimes the cost of labour is higher than materials, the right word is most time.

If I'm getting you right? When Americans start to pay for the tariffs, companies in America will join in raising their price. Why? In the nut shell,so when Chinese goods become expensive, American companies will fold and go to china

Saga16:
US only purchases 15% of China’s production output.

Stop making them appear superhuman.

15% of trade volume can also equate to 90% of value receipts.
Superior,more expensive Chinese made consumer goods usually heads for US markets,while cheap Chinese knockoffs service third world countries where they've got the bulk of their market share.
Yes,Americans are superhuman.
Third world discredit won't change their truth.

mastermaestro:
China will cave in at the end. American goods don't sell in China the way Chinese goods rely heavily on US markets. Watch as Chinese factories start folding up. US has purchasing power, that's why Trump brags.

You've not even mentioned if America should get Japan on its side. I pity Chinese hawks

Saladdin:
Now this is someone with sense and decorum talking.

Every sane human regardless of their tribe, race and religion needs to pray that China, Russia and the Axis win this economic war over the demonic West. Everyone is tired of hypocrisy, genocide and wokeism.

Some comments made earlier has led me to firmly believe that either Nairaland has been invaded by bots and paid Western agents or some people choose to be deliberately stupid.

One even stated that Africa will dump Chinese goods. Dump them for whose goods exactly?
China is the reason most Africans now own a smartphone and use sophisticated gadgets.

Left to the West, they'll prefer to make those gadgets unaffordable for us.

But some goats on this forum would prefer to support the West, who have never hidden their disdain for us over China. Very unreasonable set of people.

Dear goat, where is your reasoning. The west is evil and china is your savour. You mumu no be small. For your information, America is a fierce honey bee while china is a economic constrictor. For your level of reasoning, it will take you years to digest that

SeaTrade:
15% of trade volume can also equate to 90% of value receipts.
Superior,more expensive Chinese made consumer goods usually heads for US markets,while cheap Chinese knockoffs service third world countries where they've got the bulk of their market share.
Yes,Americans are superhuman.
Third world discredit won't change their truth.

Hahaha.

US has lower standards than Europe.

That's why Europe would never buy their chicken or beef.

Pierocash:
oga Chinese export to US only accounts for 15% of total Chinese global export. If I were China, I will stop doing business with US ,and watch how US will suffer more starvation

USA lost the middle class when Nixon signed the treaty with China ... Trump is a smart man , he's trying to bring it back to the USA... na China go loose ... the world will see the positive effect in American citizens in the long run ...

Dreamhans1:
What if America gets its allies to place similar or worst tariffs on china, with promise of zero or lower tariff.

I think China go hear am.

China Play, force Africa to buy more. And since china is in control of 70% of the processing of the world critical elements, china still have a card to play

This would have worked if US was a manufacturing giant and if US has allies.

Right now she is fighting both friends and foes


China has been proactive unlike Europe who mortgaged their economic and military security to US thinking that a day like this would never come

China has BRICS plus, China has far reaching influence in Africa and Latin America and Asia. US is heavily dependent on China's imports. If you were a 3rd world country who would you rather pitch your tent with, US or China

SeaTrade:
15% of trade volume can also equate to 90% of value receipts.
Superior,more expensive Chinese made consumer goods usually heads for US markets,while cheap Chinese knockoffs service third world countries where they've got the bulk of their market share.
Yes,Americans are superhuman.
Third world discredit won't change their truth.

European Union Imports from China was US$657.32 Billion during 2022,

China exports to United States worth US$ 582,756 million.

Learn.

Dreamhans1:
What if America gets its allies to place similar or worst tariffs on china, with promise of zero or lower tariff.

I think China go hear am.

China Play, force Africa to buy more. And since china is in control of 70% of the processing of the world critical elements, china still have a card to play

Who are allies of USA?

Canada?

Europe?

79733139:
Nobody is begging the US. Countries are either strategizing on the next things to do or they fighting back back by imposing their own tariffs on US goods. For example, Zimbabwe said that they would offer the US 0% tariff if the US reciprocates.... that is not begging.

i get your point nobody is begging however some countries imposing their own tariffs no even mean anything BUT the whole of Africa imported $32.1bn goods from the US in the whole of 2024, in the same 2024 Africa imported $178bn from china. Africa no get muscle to flex on this-the entire continent is buying just $32.1bn from US. I dont know what African countries putting tariffs on US products will do for US. Its not like you do huuuuuge business with them, its even US that provided 6.6bn$ in humanitarian services to sub-saharan Africa in 2024. In september 2024 Xi Jinping pledged $51billion to Africa in loans+investments+aids over the next 3 years...so 17billion every year-you and I know say majority na loan.

Saga16:
European Union Imports from China was US$657.32 Billion during 2022,

China exports to United States worth US$ 582,756 million.

Learn.

657.32B+582.756B=$1,240.076B
657.32B+0B=$657.32B
It's a numbers race and not a prove a point contest.
Learn.

Saga16:
Who are allies of USA?

Canada?

Europe?

Europe, Japan, Korea , Canada India. So you know, these countries will grovel to America if America should dangle a plantain

tuoyoojo:
This would have worked if US was a manufacturing giant and if US has allies.

Right now she is fighting both friends and foes


China has been proactive unlike Europe who mortgaged their economic and military security to US thinking that a day like this would never come

China has BRICS plus, China has far reaching influence in Africa and Latin America and Asia. US is heavily dependent on China's imports. If you were a 3rd world country who would you rather pitch your tent with, US or China

All these countries you mentioned will dance to America if America dangle just a plantain. China has killed the world manufacturing base, you just don't know it. Furthermore, china don't straight up put tariff on people goods, but will make sure that your goods don't make it to outer the Chinese ports.
Who I'll choose, I'll rather chose a open devil than an economic constrictor..


If I'm lying try exporting anything of your choice to china , then try the same to America. Then compare the two

Dreamhans1:
Europe, Japan, Korea , Canada India. So you know, these countries will grovel to America if America should dangle a plantain

Canada?

Have been asleep?

SeaTrade:
657.32B+582.756B=$1,240.076B
657.32B+0B=$657.32B
It's a numbers race and not a prove a point contest.
Learn.

You're talking sheet.

US is nor China's number 1 market, Europe is.

US has pissed all former allies off and choose to stand alone.

Stand alone they must.

Saga16:
You're talking sheet.

US is nor China's number 1 market, Europe is.

US has pissed all former allies off and choose to stand alone.

Stand alone they must.

The Caucasians will always stick together, and japan will choose America any day any time when push comes to shove

Saga16:
You're talking sheet.

US is nor China's number 1 market, Europe is.

US has pissed all former allies off and choose to stand alone.

Stand alone they must.

I no go follow fool like you argue much nna.

SeaTrade:
I no go follow fool like you argue much nna.

I know,
You prefer ro argue with fools like your father.
Blockhead.

Dreamhans1:
The Caucasians will always stick together, and japan will choose America any day any time when push comes to shove

Canada would not stick with US.

Trump started it, Canada would end it.

Elbows up.

Saga16:
Canada would not stick with US.

Trump started, Canada would end it.

Elbows up.

Lol. Canada will die with US if US as much throws a little carrots

Dreamhans1:
Lol. Canada will die with US if US as much throws a little carrots

You're not following the news.

Trump can never appease Canada.

The line is drawn.

Why didn't you mention Russia in your WWII narrative?

Yugoslavia247:
Lol

Maybe china forgot you need the US dollar to get yen or yuan.

Chinese market is cheap and low quality but need America consumers.

Even Africa nations will jilt china when global politics start.

No be cho cho cho

Even Apc zombies dont understand

Why do I support America

WWW2 not making us nazi slaves is thanks to America

Many european countries already gave up to Germans

Where was china?

The world is free because of America.

America has always been there for the world even if they profit of it.

God Bless America
God bless Israel for finishing islamist terrorist
God bless me

Saga16:
You're not following the news.

Trump can never appease Canada.

The line is drawn.

then you don't know international politics. If I may ask, who would Canada turn to?