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Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by maasoap(m): 4:36pm On Apr 09, 2025
obajoey:
Trump imposes tariffs on China, but spared Russia.

Russia is a friend to China, but Trump is befriending Russia while fighting China.

China will soon see Russia as a traitor befriending the enemy.

Trump wants to isolate both countries for easy penetration.
Except that Putin is only using Trump because he knows who the real friend is. Dey there
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by obajoey(m): 4:36pm On Apr 09, 2025
maasoap:
Except that Putin is only using Trump because he knows who the real friend is. Dey there
grin
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by maasoap(m): 4:39pm On Apr 09, 2025
onome25:
CHINA JUST WANT SUFFER THIS TRADE WAR grin grin grin

no country can fight America....
America has so many ways to cripple china economy grin cheesy......
sipping my kunu here oooooo grin
Lol. This one is still living in the past. You know that China is a socialist/communist state and you know what that means, right? It means that they will quickly adjust and adapt to any new condition.

abbey621:
China exports to the USA: 75%
US exports to China: 25%

If the two countries were democratic, na China go suffer pass but since one is communist, it can withstand harship and poverty for way longer than spoiled Americans hence this is a battle that won't favor Americans!
This is what I just posted too. Now, imagine the kind of hardship that this deficit of 75% will cause American consumers in the meantime!
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by Basicend: 4:41pm On Apr 09, 2025
Skydivine:
Those technologies would be obsolete in few years time without further research and development. This is where the US has an edge and China is lacking. Most innovations like lithium battery used in those vehicles you mentioned originated from the US. And the future still holes more! China only copies and mass produce.
Technologies are birth in laboratories of research institutions and not in factories. Think of what is going on in institutions like Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Yales and Tufts etc. These are the best brains in the world. China does not come close and they know it. That is why their elites would pay any amount to for their wards to attend these colleges.
Currently, China does almost same weight of research and direct innovation as USA in several key areas.

USA had diverted their research fundings to war weaponry and proxy wars within the last few years / decade. Hence the waning.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by abbey621(m): 4:44pm On Apr 09, 2025
AndroBlaze:
Why are you elongating this thing, have you no shame?

I know you are aware that when economists and financial experts talk about Trade Balance it mostly the VALUE anyone cares about and not the QUANTITY.

Even in your second post to me to justify your fabricated first post, what you referenced was VALUE....and now just to win an internet argument you are willing to bend Maths, English and Logic ??!

Oya ooo, I humbly ask that you share with us independent data that shows that for every 4 items China exports to the USA, USA exports one item....because even AI can not be bothered to bring up the stats of such an irrelevant criterion.
Again you're rambling like a noob, the data is there, total exports to China from the USA compared to total exports from the USA to China. I was speaking strictly on volume but if you want to go on value as well we can go that route.

[url]https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-taiwan/peoples-republic-china#:~:text=China%20Trade%20Summary($16.3%20billion)%20over%202023.[/url]

In absolute dollar amount, the USA still runs at a deficit, so I don't know the foolery you're exhibiting!

U.S. total goods trade with China were an estimated $582.4 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to China in 2024 were $143.5 billion, down 2.9 percent ($4.2 billion) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from China in 2024 totaled $438.9 billion, up 2.8 percent ($12.1 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with China was $295.4 billion in 2024, a 5.8 percent increase ($16.3 billion) over 2023.
China: 143 USA: 438, this is approximately 25% to 75% ratio off the total 582 billion trades in 2024 between both countries. Again math is simple, na you no get brain!
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by SAMTOBIJU(m): 4:45pm On Apr 09, 2025
PROPEACE:
Make Trump pity Americans. What he did is unnecessary and stupid. He can never win this war against china because while China is fighting america, America is fighting the rest of the world. Trump has succeeded in making enemies of countries that have been friends of America for hundreds of years; Canada, Mexico, Britain, EU. Haba Trump. XI can easily run to any of those countries and make business allies of them and succeed. Europe is ready to work closely with China to overcome the pressure from its rift with US. Trump is just a fool, Americans empowered him so I don't care, they should live with it!
You could not have say it any better....so on point
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by ElSudani: 4:46pm On Apr 09, 2025
Skydivine:
Mention one technology that is making waves that originated or that was developed in China .
Originated? What does that mean really? The Chinese didn't invent the mobile phone or electric cars but they make better and more affordable ones than any other country and that goes for many many products.

Who cares about what anything originated from? You buy what you can afford and trust me a lot of those comes from China.
As for innovation the Chinese are not just copying stuff anymore, they are improving on many things and in some cases even better than the Americans.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by AgainstIslam: 4:48pm On Apr 09, 2025
maasoap:
That's what happens when senseless people are voted into position of authority by the people who are being driven by hate, people like you.
Sorry, I know the frustration is much. Just endure. There will be light at the end of the tunnel.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by maasoap(m): 4:49pm On Apr 09, 2025
Skydivine:
Those technologies would be obsolete in few years time without further research and development. This is where the US has an edge and China is lacking. Most innovations like lithium battery used in those vehicles you mentioned originated from the US. And the future still holes more! China only copies and mass produce.
Technologies are birth in laboratories of research institutions and not in factories. Think of what is going on in institutions like Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Yales and Tufts etc. These are the best brains in the world. China does not come close and they know it. That is why their elites would pay any amount to for their wards to attend these colleges.
Laughing at this ignorance. When China is already living in the future. The age of China copying "developed nations engineering" has gone! Their scientists and technologists are now living in the future.
Fastest electric trains, 6th generation fighters, better space station solely owned by China produced at a fraction of the cost of international space station, etc. Wake up!
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by Skydivine: 4:53pm On Apr 09, 2025
maasoap:
Laughing at this ignorance. When China is already living in the future. The age of China copying "developed nations engineering" has gone! Their scientists and technologists are now living in the future.
Fastest electric trains, 6th generation fighters, better space station solely owned by China produced at a fraction of the cost of international space station, etc. Wake up!
We have discussed this here before. The technology for the fastest train ( Magnetic induction) was developed in the US. China is only coping and mass producing. Go and research this information first.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by AndroBlaze: 4:55pm On Apr 09, 2025
abbey621:
Again you're rambling like a noob, the data is there, total exports to China from the USA compared to total exports from the USA to China. I was speaking strictly on volume but if you want to go on value as well we can go that route.

[url]https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-taiwan/peoples-republic-china#:~:text=China%20Trade%20Summary($16.3%20billion)%20over%202023.[/url]

In absolute dollar amount, the USA still runs at a deficit, so I don't know the foolery you're exhibiting!



China: 143 USA: 438, this is approximately 25% to 75% ratio off the total 582 billion trades in 2024 between both countries. Again math is simple, na you no get brain!
Unfortunately, it is clear you are a simple dishonest quack who discusses things he has no understanding of.

There is clearly no need to engage you further as you will keep on repeating and conflating the same old drivel.

For the sake of Nigeria, I hope you never have any students or anyone learning from you as you clearly have no reliable knowledge to impart.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by frankson1(m): 4:59pm On Apr 09, 2025
obajoey:
Trump imposes tariffs on China, but spared Russia.

Russia is a friend to China, but Trump is befriending Russia while fighting China.

China will soon see Russia as a traitor befriending the enemy.

Trump wants to isolate both countries for easy penetration.
Beer parlour analysis undecided
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by Ilekokonit: 5:03pm On Apr 09, 2025
Eriokanmi:
I hope trump won't make America unlivable. It won't be funny if citizens are running out of the country to seek life and living elsewhere cos they can't cope with the crazy bills.
With Trump tariffs already wiping out 11 Trillion dollars off US stocks and the 401k pension savings of Americans in just 4 days, more Americans are going to move to Europe to escape Trump's brutish thoughtless economic depression inducing policies.

Already since the maniac won the election in Nov, some Americans have been moving to Spain to be free of the demon in the White house and in Spain, they are calling these incoming Americans Trump refugees.

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2025/02/26/revealed-how-americans-are-abandoning-the-us-for-spain-following-donald-trumps-victory-and-snapping-up-pricey-neighbourhoods/

https://euroweeklynews.com/2024/12/04/from-trump-to-tapas-why-more-americans-are-calling-spain-home/
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by Skydivine: 5:03pm On Apr 09, 2025
ElSudani:
Originated? What does that mean really? The Chinese didn't invent the mobile phone or electric cars but they make better and more affordable ones than any other country and that goes for many many products.

Who cares about what anything originated from? You buy what you can afford and trust me a lot of those comes from China.
As for innovation the Chinese are not just copying stuff anymore, they are improving on many things and in some cases even better than the Americans.
Remember when Nokia torch light used to be the best mobile phone? That is how fast new things become obsolete. Without academic and industrial research and innovation, the know how for making these newer things won’t be available. Educational and research institutions in the US are years ahead of those in China both in human capacity and resources. How many Americans go to university in China? And how Chinese go to school in the US? There is a reason they are trooping to the US.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by maasoap(m): 5:12pm On Apr 09, 2025
Skydivine:
We have discussed this here before. The technology for the fastest train ( Magnetic induction) was developed in the US. China is only coping and mass producing. Go and research this information first.
And the fact that China was first country to deploy 5G commercially?
What about the other two that I mentioned?
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by Skydivine: 5:17pm On Apr 09, 2025
maasoap:
And the fact that China was first country to deploy 5G commercially?
What about the other two that I mentioned?

Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by 247man: 5:18pm On Apr 09, 2025
SAMTOBIJU:
Apple is in serious trouble and other companies that produce from China or that rely on US for the sales of their goods.....Make the two president pity the business community in their country o
Where do you think your android phones are made?
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by teekay213(m): 5:27pm On Apr 09, 2025
onome25:
CHINA JUST WANT SUFFER THIS TRADE WAR grin grin grin

no country can fight America....
America has so many ways to cripple china economy grin cheesy......
sipping my kunu here oooooo grin
ode who told you that? You know how much America dey own china for gbese. China has the largest economy
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by StEmmy01: 5:28pm On Apr 09, 2025
China is the only country in the world to lock horns with the USA in this bitter trade war. Trump's bullying is getting too much. China is a world power and way ahead of the USA in terms of manufacturing technology and industrialization. Trump pulled out a wrong card this time and it will get worse if care is not taken. I pray it doesn't escalate into a world war
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by abbey621(m): 5:30pm On Apr 09, 2025
AndroBlaze:
Unfortunately, it is clear you are a simple dishonest quack who discusses things he has no understanding of.

There is clearly no need to engage you further as you will keep on repeating and conflating the same old drivel.

For the sake of Nigeria, I hope you never have any students or anyone learning from you as you clearly have no reliable knowledge to impart.
Unfortunately for you, I live in the USA and this topic has real life implications so your rambling is nothing but ofutufete, an afterthought of insignificance!
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by maasoap(m): 5:31pm On Apr 09, 2025
Skydivine:
Lol
Laughing. We don't argue blindly, emphasis on "commercially deployed".
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by Ilekokonit:
Trump is an economic illiterate whose Uni Prof exposed as having passed his degree programme simply because of the huge donations his Dad gave the Uni.

Imagine a US company who was formerly importing goods from China for $100 and selling for $110 to make a $10 profit.

With Trump's childish tantrum tariffs of 104%, the same goods will now have a landing cost of $204 as against $100 and so it is not feasible for such a company anymore and a lot of US companies will go bankrupt because not all Chinese goods can be manufactured in America like waving a magic wand and US labour costs being too high for US manufacturers was the reason the jobs were offshored to China and other low wage countries in the first place.

I bet the idiotic Trump does not understand the concept of offshoring jobs abroad to cheaper labour locations like China, India, Bangladesh etc and Trump does not understand the concept of Nations playing to their comparative advantage.

It's true that China carries out unfair trade practices, but what of all the other countries that Trump is tariffing and the effect that the world is now on the cusp of a 1930 style economic "depression" that is going to affect the WHOLE world economy plus the fact that in just 4 days global stocks and pension savings have lost trillions with 11 Trillion dollars lost in America alone.

Trump just lacks the tact, emotional maturity, planning ability and foresight to be US president and he will damage the whole world beyond repair in addition to the damage he has already inflicted on the world in less than 80 days if he is allowed to continue his whimsical childish policies.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by AndroBlaze: 5:36pm On Apr 09, 2025
abbey621:
Unfortunately for you, I live in the USA and this topic has real life implications so your rambling is nothing but ofutufete, an afterthought of insignificance!
No wonder, that explains your dullness and insincerity.

To think people are always assuming we are losing our best minds grin
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by mukthar2000(m): 5:39pm On Apr 09, 2025
Kudos to China,
US think they have Monopoly to tariffs increase Alon.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by ElSudani: 5:41pm On Apr 09, 2025
Skydivine:
Remember when Nokia torch light used to be the best mobile phone? That is how fast new things become obsolete. Without academic and industrial research and innovation, the know how for making these newer things won’t be available. [b]Educational and research institutions in the US are years ahead of those in China both in human capacity and resources. How many Americans go to university in China? And how Chinese go to school in the US? [/b]There is a reason they are trooping to the US.
Where are you getting your information from? You actually believe the Chinese are lagging behind in Education? Not true at all. In fact, education is one of the reasons they've been able to catch up really fast.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by abbey621(m): 5:43pm On Apr 09, 2025
AndroBlaze:
No wonder, that explains your dullness and insincerity.

To think people are always assuming we are losing our best minds grin
Dullness yet you couldn't produce one single evidence against the data stated, typical loudmouth Nairaland ignoramus grin grin
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by AndroBlaze: 5:49pm On Apr 09, 2025
abbey621:
Dullness yet you couldn't produce one single evidence against the data stated, typical loudmouth Nairaland ignoramus grin grin
See this fake yankee trying to outsmart people that can actually read and write.....na you state your argument was on VOLUME & QUANTITY, please bring your data of how they were counting bananas and grapes for your ridiculous " For every 4 items China send to to USA, USA sends 1" argument.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by MrGerald(m): 5:56pm On Apr 09, 2025
onome25:
CHINA JUST WANT SUFFER THIS TRADE WAR grin grin grin

no country can fight America....
America has so many ways to cripple china economy grin cheesy......
sipping my kunu here oooooo grin
You're right Bro, people are just praising china to oblivion, America is the biggest market
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by abbey621(m): 6:05pm On Apr 09, 2025
AndroBlaze:
See this fake yankee trying to outsmart people that can actually read and write.....na you state your argument was on VOLUME & QUANTITY, please bring your data of how they were counting bananas and grapes for your ridiculous " [b]For every 4 items China send to to USA, USA sends 1" argument. [/b]
Mumu.....Quantity of trade in dollars, for evey $4 that China makes, the USA makes $1, I now understand your confusion/dullness grin grin

Here's your initial argument:

Your screenshot indicates what USA imported from China compared to what it exported (trade balance reported by US), how does that co-relate with your original claim that China was losing 75% of its export market by fighting USA, while USA was only losing 25% by fighting China (also incorrect).
You can see it had nothing to do with the actual argument of who pays more tariffs.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by AndroBlaze: 6:08pm On Apr 09, 2025
abbey621:
Mumu.....Quantity of trade in dollars, for evey $4 that China makes, the USA makes $1, I now understand your confusion/dullness grin grin
You must be thinking you are dealing with your fellow dunce, you are a true reprobate.
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by abbey621(m): 6:08pm On Apr 09, 2025
AndroBlaze:
You must be thinking you are dealing with your fellow dunce, you are a true reprobate.
Stick to words you actually understand kiddo grin grin
Re: China Imposes 84% Import Tariffs On US Goods by Skydivine: 6:11pm On Apr 09, 2025
ElSudani:
Where are you getting your information from? You actually believe the Chinese are lagging behind in Education? Not true at all. In fact, education is one of the reasons they've been able to catch up really fast.
I don’t see any chinco school here

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