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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:27pm On Apr 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
This has not come to continued insults. cheesy

OP complained about evil deeds happening in their churches and i told him it doesn't happen among Jehovah's Witnesses, instantly another commentator confirmed what i said.

Oya mention the name of your own church let us know if the same thing doesn't happen there. cheesy
Who dey insult you? Achorladey grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

This has not come to continued insults.
MaxInDHouse = Madness and insanities peddling brains filled with lies and manipulations. It is not an insult. It is an highlight of your ways on Nairaland. I warned you. Learn to face the consequences of your actions. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

OP complained about evil deeds happening in their churches and i told him it doesn't happen among Jehovah's Witnesses, instantly another commentator confirmed what i said.
And another commentator said Jehovah's witnesses are not different of which you supported with 1 John 2 reasons why you go against those who go against your GODS of men housed in USA. Live with it. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Oya mention the name of your own church let us know if the same thing doesn't happen there.
Your madness and insanities peddling brains can read the below again....

When I told you your madness and insanities peddling brains started to refer myself and others who knows about it scoffers and sinners based on Psalms 1:1. Since then to say you are happy based on the same Psalms 1:1 na problem for your lies and manipulations filled madness and insanities peddling brains grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Truvelisback(m): 10:28pm On Apr 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
That's what the scriptures teaches!

"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works" 2John 1:10-11

Because the person is no longer ready to continue in the same line of thought with the congregation of God! John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10

But why do your pastors treat you like that when you people claim you are all on the same page? smiley
So, your bible said you should treat the person as your enemy for refusing to attend your church.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:30pm On Apr 09, 2025
Second page?
Ọmọ time to leave hypocrites to continue deceiving themselves.

OP launched a complaint against his religion, i told him the same doesn't apply to my own and instantly a neutral commentator attested to what i said but instead of humbly admitting the flaws he wants to turn against me.

Abeg continue with your people jàre i don waka pass!

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:31pm On Apr 09, 2025
Truvelisback:
So, your bible said you should treat the person as your enemy for refusing to attend your church.
The moment they tell you Satan is the number one APOSTATES anyone that leaves that religious organization by disassociation or removal/ disfellowship be sure you are on same plane with the the DEVIL as enemy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:33pm On Apr 09, 2025
Truvelisback:
So, your bible said you should treat the person as your enemy for refusing to attend your church.
If that's what the Bible teaches then why are we going to preach and teach them in their homes?
Ọmọ it simply means people who have been part of us knowing what we believe but wants another teaching and bringing it to us! 1John 2:19 smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:33pm On Apr 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Second page?
Ọmọ time to leave hypocrites to continue deceiving themselves.

OP launched a complaint against his religion, i told him the same doesn't apply to my own and instantly a neutral commentator attested to what i said but instead of humbly admitting the flaws he wants to turn against me.

Abeg continue with your people jàre i don waka pass!
As you leave take this for the road grin cheesy grin grin

Ọmọ time to leave hypocrites to continue deceiving themselves.
Your madness and insanities peddling brains told us same hypocrites are plenty in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses your so called Jehovah's organization grin cheesy cheesy

Abeg continue with your people jàre i don waka pass
Na you waka come in the first place and you are free to waka go with your madness and insanities peddling brains grin cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:35pm On Apr 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If that's what the Bible teaches then why are we going to preach and teach them in their homes?
Ọmọ it simply means people who have been part of us knowing what we believe but wants another teaching and bringing it to us! smiley
Wetin you still dey do? grin grin cheesy cheesy

You suppose waka pass.

Ọmọ it simply means people who have been part of us knowing what we believe but wants another teaching and bringing it to us
Meaning they are your enemies right? grin grin grin grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m):
achorladey:
Wetin you still dey do? grin grin cheesy cheesy
You suppose waka pass.
Meaning they are your enemies right? grin grin grin grin
You have the scriptures so interpret and apply it to the best of your knowledge.

All members of the church should stop associating with such ones Jesus really emphasized this when he taught his disciples how to treat anyone who ignores the conclusion the church reached on a matter {Matthew 18:15-17} all members are to turn their backs on such rebellious individuals {Romans 16:17} that's what apostles taught the church of God! 2John 1:10-11

But here the church founders are against members for a totally different reason that's why they don't know how to explain to their followers.

The OP doesn't understand why these GOs are treating their former members so badly to the extent of getting them arrested but in God's organization nobody feels differently when a rebellious individual is excommunicated from among us because we know what could have led to such a decision going by what Christ Jesus instituted:

“Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established.  If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector" Matthew 18:15-17

In the first century Jews used to shun tax collectors and pagans that's exactly what Jesus said his disciples should do to anyone who is against the decision of the church! smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 8:08am On Apr 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You have the scriptures so interpret and apply it to the best of your knowledge.

All members of the church should stop associating with such ones Jesus really emphasized this when he taught his disciples how to treat anyone who ignores the conclusion the church reached on a matter {Matthew 18:15-17} all members are to turn their backs on such rebellious individuals {Romans 16:17} that's what apostles taught the church of God! 2John 1:10-11

But here the church founders are against members for a totally different reason that's why they don't know how to explain to their followers.

The OP doesn't understand why these GOs are treating their former members so badly to the extent of getting them arrested but in God's organization nobody feels differently when a rebellious individual is excommunicated from among us because we know what could have led to such a decision going by what Christ Jesus instituted:

“Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established.  If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector" Matthew 18:15-17

In the first century Jews used to shun tax collectors and pagans that's exactly what Jesus said his disciples should do to anyone who is against the decision of the church! smiley
You have started peddling your lies and manipulations today. You said you want to waka pass. I know you find it difficult to do because you are not the type that has INTEGRITY to stand by your words. The many reasons you lie with no shame and modicum of self respect

You have the scriptures so interpret and apply it to the best of your knowledge.
To interpret based on the intent and context of the writer not interpreting it to suit your madness and insanities peddling brains peddling lies and manipulations and therefore abusing the scriptures.

All members of the church should stop associating with such ones Jesus really emphasized this when he taught his disciples how to treat anyone who ignores the conclusion the church reached on a matter {Matthew 18:15-17} all members are to turn their backs on such rebellious individuals {Romans 16:17} that's what apostles taught the church of God! 2John 1:10-11
No where did Jesus say in Matthew 18 15 - 17 that his disciples are to stop associating or turn their backs on people who criticise their religious leaders or turn them into enemies.

Romans 16:17 I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them.
Here is 2 John

10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them. 11 Anyone who welcomes them shares in their wicked work.
Which teaching? Will pick scriptures like your GODS of men housed in USA and start abusing it based on the madness and insanities packed into your brains. All of those accounts has nothing to do with turning those who criticise your religious leaders into enemies or turn your back against them

In the first century Jews used to shun tax collectors and pagans that's exactly what Jesus said his disciples should do to anyone who is against the decision of the church
Looool! This is the summary of Jehovah's Witnesses when the shoe fit Jewish practices becomes the standards when it doesn't fit Jesus sayings becomes the standard cheesy grin grin grin

Try as much as you can, Jesus a Jew received tax collectors even ate with tax collectors. That's the same Jesus a Jew your madness and insanities said we should follow regarding shunning or turning backs against those going against decision of the church. cheesy grin grin

You don't even understand what you are reading from the Bible paapaa.

But here the church founders are against members for a totally different reason that's why they don't know how to explain to their followers.
You are the spokesperson for the church founders as one of Jehovah's Witnesses. You understand the reasons more than their followers paapaa. Your madness and insanities peddling brains no go end today.

The OP doesn't understand why these GOs are treating their former members so badly to the extent of getting them arrested but in God's organization nobody feels differently when a rebellious individual is excommunicated from among us because we know what could have led to such a decision going by what Christ Jesus instituted:
Time for you to advance your madness and insanities peddling brains of a narrative. The OP understands what is going on more than your lies and manipulations filled brains. He even stated that it should stop. Stop advancing nonsense narrative to make your fraud of a religious organization look good. cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 8:21am On Apr 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Apart from our church all of you are unbelievers that's why it's only worshipers in our kingdom Halls we view as fellow believers! Matthew 10:6

But you people claim you're all Christians with all the contradictions among you so why the same thing nah? cheesy
This is the madness and insanities peddling from lies and manipulations filled brains I talked about cheesy grin grin

Apart from our church all of you are unbelievers
Your madness and insanities peddling brains is applying the scriptures meant for believers on unbelievers. You have been quoting scriptures that has to do with believers on unbelievers. Who do you like this? cheesy grin grin grin grin

All those verses in John, Matthew, Romans are equally meant for unbelievers? Madness and insanities peddling dey your brains. You don't look down on others like Pharisees right? Hypocrite abi na hypercrite paapaa. Calling others unbelievers to look separate and good.

that's why it's only worshipers in our kingdom Halls we view as fellow believers! Matthew 10:6
Wallow in your believers peddling, hypercrite looking down on others as unbelievers. cheesy grin cheesy grin Your goose don dey cooked this morning.

But you people claim you're all Christians with all the contradictions among you so why the same thing nah?
Madness and insanities peddling brains added people claim. It is in your madness and insanities peddling claim peddling comes from. The OP created a thread based on a trend noticed among most GOs and your madness and insanities peddling brains said they are contradicting. Even your GBs use their mode of operation too grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:36am On Apr 10, 2025
Cry cry baby wants to turn truth to lies when it's written boldly in the scriptures.

Abeg apart from Jehovah's Witnesses can you mention any church having a unique teaching which all members must shun whoever kicks against it? cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Baronthecelebri(m): 10:55am On Apr 10, 2025
Na their way
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 11:48am On Apr 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Cry cry baby wants to turn truth to lies when it's written boldly in the scriptures.

Abeg apart from Jehovah's Witnesses can you mention any church having a unique teaching which all members must shun whoever kicks against it? cheesy
Runaway cry cry peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy grin

wants to turn truth to lies when it's written boldly in the scriptures.
The lies that you cannot refute with your cry cry peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Abeg apart from Jehovah's Witnesses can you mention any church having a unique teaching which all members must shun whoever kicks against it?
Na same denominator you share with those you love to condemn the reason for your hypercrite and Pharisees attributes grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 11:50am On Apr 10, 2025
Baronthecelebri:
Na their way
Embedded in the articles of association, policies, rules and regulations protecting those establishments. The better those under them see this better they avoid their lives being taken away under the guise of wanting to worship God by being a member of a religious organization grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:14pm On Apr 10, 2025
achorladey:
Embedded in the articles of association, policies, rules and regulations protecting those establishments. The better those under them see this better they avoid their lives being taken away under the guise of wanting to worship God by being a member of a religious organization grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
In a nutshell you no worship anywhere! cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 12:32pm On Apr 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
In a nutshell you no worship anywhere! cheesy
Your Bible didn't recommend worshipping anywhere. Let that sink into your madness and insanities peddling brains.

You read it several times in your bibles but you cannot make sense of it. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by CodeTemplarr: 3:16pm On Apr 10, 2025
Black man psychological profile is what you are erroneously projecting on GOs.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by lomprico(m): 3:18pm On Apr 10, 2025
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
That's because they are wolves in sheep clothing. They are MOM (men of marmon) they serve money/power not God.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by 2mininuP: 3:18pm On Apr 10, 2025
The bigger difference is that the gifts of the spirit and the fruits of the spirits are two different thing. The gifts of the spirit can be instanter while the fruits manifest as a believer is growing. all men of God as we often refers to them (G o, Pastore etc) they all need full manifestation of the fruits of the spirit so as to flourish well with their gifts.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by qtx(m): 3:19pm On Apr 10, 2025
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
For all i care, your statements are speculative and until you start talking in terms of evidence and specifics, you are a rumour monger.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Antoeni(m): 3:19pm On Apr 10, 2025
They Are Worst Than APC Government
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Lovelife433(m): 3:21pm On Apr 10, 2025
Touch not my Anointed. Watch ur tongue before u bring damnation to ur family. Ire o
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by merits(m): 3:21pm On Apr 10, 2025
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
CAN are toothless bulldog they can't check mate
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by WowSweetGuy(m): 3:25pm On Apr 10, 2025
Because they are the chosen ones
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by thinkmoney(m): 3:26pm On Apr 10, 2025
APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics


I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
You are wise
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by manitobor(m): 3:27pm On Apr 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses will never arrest anyone for speaking against us just as true disciples of Christ who believe that it's normal for critics to speak against us even lie against us just as Jesus has told us they will do! Matthew 5:11-12smiley
Jehovah's witnesses is a sect, a cult.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by id4sho(m): 3:27pm On Apr 10, 2025
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
It's all because of money . Bishop Abioye overstayed in LFC👌💯
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by goslowgoslow(m): 3:27pm On Apr 10, 2025
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
Na for people who dey glorify GO and mummy GO!
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by goslowgoslow(m): 3:28pm On Apr 10, 2025
manitobor:
Jehovah's witnesses is a sect, a cult.
Ignorance is a disease, you need mental help!
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Godfullsam(m): 3:30pm On Apr 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They all know there is no Hellfire that is why they do the worst things you can ever imagine.
They are modern day Pharisees! undecided
Jehovah witness are peaceful people. I love them so much but i cant be part of that Christian denomination.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by mrkia(m): 3:30pm On Apr 10, 2025
Those are the signs of those who called themselves and lie that it's God who called them.

They are fake!!!
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Chidex50(m): 3:31pm On Apr 10, 2025
Nonsense talk! What of the ones that kill up north because of their religion? If you don't have anything to say, keep quiet.
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