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Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
The redemption of Israel which is the end of the great tribulation

and

The coming of the kingdom of God
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
This is the commencement of the great tribulation

Matthew 24:15-22
King James Version
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understandsmiley

16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.


19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
This is the commencement of the great tribulation

Mark 13:13-17
King James Version
13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:


15 And let him that is on the housetop not go down into the house, neither enter therein, to take any thing out of his house:

16 And let him that is in the field not turn back again for to take up his garment.

17 But woe to them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 1:16pm On Apr 05, 2025
The great tribulation ends first, with the enthronement of David Michael over Israel. This present ongoing (but now ending) great tribulation is not the first tribulation of Israel, but apparently, this has been the longest and the most devastating

Israel usually enters tribulation when God turns his back against them, because of their disobedience to his law, and their transgressions, so he allows them to be overcome by their enemies, whom he uses to punish them, then when they repent, he sends mighty and powerful warrior men and women to fight and overthrow the yoke of their enemies and establish their independence and their return to the law of God.

Deuteronomy 4:29-31
King James Version
30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the Lord thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice;
31 (For the Lord thy God is a merciful God; ) he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 1:45pm On Apr 05, 2025
This is an example of a tribulation in Israel

Judges 6:1-3
King James Version
6 And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord: and the Lord delivered them into the hand of Midian seven years.

2 And the hand of Midian prevailed against Israel: and because of the Midianites the children of Israel made them the dens which are in the mountains, and caves, and strong holds.

3 And so it was, when Israel had sown, that the Midianites came up, and the Amalekites, and the children of the east, even they came up against them;


This is how it ended. God commissioned Gideon to deliver the children of Israel out of the hands of the Midianites

Judges 6:13-14
King James Version
13 And Gideon said unto him, Oh my Lord, if the Lord be with us, why then is all this befallen us? and where be all his miracles which our fathers told us of, saying, Did not the Lord bring us up from Egypt? but now the Lord hath forsaken us, and delivered us into the hands of the Midianites.

14 And the Lord looked upon him, and said, Go in this thy might, and thou shalt save Israel from the hand of the Midianites: have not I sent thee?


And this was the end of that tribulation; God used Gideon to deliver Israel out of the hands of the Midianites

Judges 8:22-23
King James Version
22 Then the men of Israel said unto Gideon, Rule thou over us, both thou, and thy son, and thy son's son also: for thou hast delivered us from the hand of Midian.

23 And Gideon said unto them, I will not rule over you, neither shall my son rule over you: the Lord shall rule over you.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
The point I am making to you is that Tribulation ends in Israel when God sends a mighty warrior to save them

Now, we are in the great tribulation. This tribulation is an existential threat to the survival of Israel because the enemy will stop at nothing, and has demonstrated this fact, to destroy Israel completely.

The enthronement of David's son as the head of Israel is the end of the great tribulation, this event is the Apocalypse meaning the revelation, and it will come with a great devastation in the nations that are the heavens of this present world

Daniel 12:1
King James Version
12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
What would be the manner of the ascendancy of Jesus Christ? His story is allegorically presented as Lazarus feeding from the crumbs of the rich man's table, with the dogs of the rich man licking his sores meaning making mockery of him Luke 16:20-22

The LORD himself will raise him from the dunghill and exalt him to the very top of everything

1 Samuel 2:7-9
King James Version
7 The Lord maketh poor, and maketh rich: he bringeth low, and lifteth up.
8 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the Lord's, and he hath set the world upon them.
9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.


He is the stone the builders refused who has become the chief cornerstone: The LORD will set him among princes, and to make him inherit the throne of glory.

The highest place in all the earth where all the decisions affecting all humanity is taken, that's where we shall find him.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
The kings and judges of Israel are historically referred to as the people who feed Israel; David is the one who feeds Israel.

2 Samuel 5:1-3
King James Version
5 Then came all the tribes of Israel to David unto Hebron, and spake, saying, Behold, we are thy bone and thy flesh.

2 Also in time past, when Saul was king over us, thou wast he that leddest out and broughtest in Israel: and the Lord said to thee, Thou shalt feed my people Israel, and thou shalt be a captain over Israel.


This is the commission to all the judges and kings of Israel as feeders of the flock of God. This passage below is how David received the everlasting covenant of peace between himself and the LORD that he will be the ruler of Israel forever, because he desired to build a house for the LORD. This is what the kings of Persia too did- they built a house for the LORD God in Jerusalem

1 Chronicles 17:5-7
King James Version
5 For I have not dwelt in an house since the day that I brought up Israel unto this day; but have gone from tent to tent, and from one tabernacle to another.
6 Wheresoever I have walked with all Israel, spake I a word to any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people, saying, Why have ye not built me an house of cedars?
7 Now therefore thus shalt thou say unto my servant David, Thus saith the Lord of hosts, I took thee from the sheepcote, even from following the sheep, that thou shouldest be ruler over my people Israel:


Now, you understand why the leaders, kings and judges of Israel are referred to as the people who feed the people of Israel
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
This is the king whom the LORD has raised over Israel, the faithful and wise servant whom the LORD has made ruler over his household to given them meat in due season, like the kings and judges of old. The enthronement of this king ends the great tribulation

Matthew 24:45-47
King James Version
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.


Now, when this king comes, our focus will shift from poverty and penury to plenty and superabundance and avoiding surfeit; under the banner of this great king we will be repaired, renewed, tended, mended, cared for, catered for, blessed, prosperous, we will have all round peace, no more herdsmen or bandits or bokoharam, no more sickness, poverty or 'incurable' disease, Ewelere will cure everything, he will give simple homemade cures and remedies for every disease under heaven, no more shall we be under the burden of the diseases of the Egyptians of which we have been so sore afraid. Ewelere will cure everything

So, under this great king, this prophecy below will come to pass

Luke 21:33-35
King James Version
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.


You can see for yourselves now that there is a reference to a day that comes as a snare.

This is the coming of the kingdom of God
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 10:44pm On Apr 05, 2025
The Gentile nations have so deliciously enjoyed the earth and all the goodies that it has to offer.

Now when it is time for the rightful owners to take control, and enjoy it forever they spurn a yarn of a rapture of mysterious disappearances. And stiffnecked you continue to believe them despite all that we have told you and the quantum of evidences we have provided.

If you still believe that you will disappear in rapture, na you sabi. But what we are sure of is this, whether you disappear in flesh o, or you disappear in spirit, nothing passes the Van Allen Belt, it will surely kill and re-kill you as you attempt to levitate past it grin
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 8:02am On Apr 06, 2025
Good thread for today Sunday, OAM4J, Jesusjnr2020
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
Luke 21:33-35
King James Version
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.


Surfeiting, drunkenness and cares of this life are the things we shall be avoiding when David becomes our king

What are the cares of this life? We should not allow enjoyment to choke us so much that we forget that the kingdom of God is still coming

Luke 8:14
King James Version
And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.


What is surfeit?
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noun
an excessive amount of something.
"a surfeit of food and drink"
Similar:excess, surplus abundance oversupply superabundance superfluity overdose glut avalanche deluge too much more than enough overindulgence overconsumption satiety satiation bellyful
verb
cause (someone) to desire no more of something as a result of having consumed or done it to excess.
"I am surfeited with shopping"

What is drunkenness?
Over indulgence.

So when David is enthroned over us, he will change our lives forever, the wealth of the whole world will flow to us effortlessly, David as king over us will make our lives to be come Nivarna Eldorado

But we shall have to be in a state of very high alert, because the kingdom of God is coming and it will come at the most surprising moment.

Luke 21:35
King James Version
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.


Even David on the throne is strongly admonished to be a good king and not become evil to his people because of the intoxication of power

Matthew 24:48-51
King James Version
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 8:11pm On Apr 07, 2025
MrPresident1:
The redemption of Israel which is the end of the great tribulation

and

The coming of the kingdom of God
Now you understand that they are two different things, right?

The redemption of Israel and Judah is coming and has come.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
A time is coming when the entire goal of your life will be to avoid surfeit and remain sober

King David is coming
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 7:36am On Apr 08, 2025
There can be no regathering of Israel and Judah before Jesus returns, and there can be no temple in Jerusalem before Jesus returns.

Jerusalem is the temple of God, and the people the Jews are the stones with which the temple is built. There was never any free standing structure or building called the temple of God, it was all about the city of Jerusalem, and the people that God had placed inside it.

So, if you want to build the temple of God, you first release the Jews from slavery, and allow them to return to Jerusalem, and proclaim the restoration of Jerusalem back to them, and then allow them to leave and flourish within the city, this is the manner in which great kings of old built the temple in Jerusalem, the first temple by King Solomon, and the second temple by the Persian kings Cyrus, Darius and Artaxerxes

Revelation 2:9
King James Version
I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.


You can see the satanic seep fake that Trump has put in Jerusalem; he gave Jerusalem to the synagogue of Satan, and built a shrine, the American embassy, in the holy place.

Rome will practise and prosper in its falsehoods until it's time is over.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 7:44am On Apr 08, 2025
By adopting the name Israel, Amalek confuses the world.

But Amalek is an impostor, fake Jews, they call themselves Jewish, what is the difference between a Jew and a Jewish person? What is the difference between Panadol and senepa panadol?

So people forget that we are in the great tribulation, and only concentrate on the coming of the kingdom of God, which no one knows the date or time, which is not coming yet because we are not in a state of surfeit where our hearts can be prone to being overcharged with drunkenness or the cares, riches and pleasures of this life.

Or as Nigerians, the way we are now, suffering like animals, can be be said to be in danger of surfeit? Are we in danger of our hearts being overcharged with the cares, riches and enjoyment and jollofment and pleasures of this life?

Luke 21:33-35
King James Version
33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 7:56am On Apr 08, 2025
But when David is unleashed upon us, the King of kings and the Lord of lords, the mighty Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Frayer, the mighty Shepherd of the sheep, he will feed us with the lushest pasture, he will quench our thirst with the sweetest and purest water. He will protect us from the wolves, the eagles, the bears, the lions, the hyenas the wild dogs, the rats, the lizards, the worms, even goats learned to eat meat, everyone who found Israel and Judah devoured her!

Jeremiah 50:7
King James Version
All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the Lord, the habitation of justice, even the Lord, the hope of their fathers.


David will be our guide and guard, no more shall we be the prey of the merciless predators, no more shall they eat our meat with so much relish and suck marrow out of our bones with so much skill and gusto, no more shall they feed fat on our innards and point and kill us for sport and wicked delight.

David is coming, the mighty Shepherd of the sheep

Daniel 12:1
King James Version
12 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 11:43pm On Apr 08, 2025
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Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op):
Judges 6:6
King James Version
6 And Israel was greatly impoverished because of the Midianites; and the children of Israel cried unto the Lord.


The part A of this verse is true, but we are not so sure of the part B, whether the people are truly calling upon the LORD.

Judah who dwells in Nigeria has become the centre of multidisciplinary multifaceted multidimensional poverty in the world all by the activities of the Babylonians.

Before the kingdom of God is established right on this earth, the great tribulation has to end first. The teeth, talons, claws, beaks, paws and power of evil birds and beasts must first be broken; the Frayer must come. Under him, we shall have peace, protection and prosperity.

No one is disappearing to anywhere. If anyone is still selling a rapture of mysterious disappearance to you, and you still believe them, you are on your own.

When you were suffering like a wild animal you did not disappear, but when it is your turn to start enjoying, they said you will disappear.

So do not disappear. Rapture of mysterious disappearing is a lie!

Rapture of endless joy is the truth.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 7:31am On Apr 11, 2025
This is another example of Israel's tribulation:
The play is always transgressions-Punishment-Saviour-Redemption-Enjoyment-Transgression
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 7:32am On Apr 11, 2025
Transgression
Judges 8:33-35
King James Version
33 And it came to pass, as soon as Gideon was dead, that the children of Israel turned again, and went a whoring after Baalim, and made Baalberith their god.

34 And the children of Israel remembered not the Lord their God, who had delivered them out of the hands of all their enemies on every side:

35 Neither shewed they kindness to the house of Jerubbaal, namely, Gideon, according to all the goodness which he had shewed unto Israel.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 7:40am On Apr 11, 2025
Transgression (Idolatry)

Judges 10:6
King James Version
6 And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim, and Ashtaroth, and the gods of Syria, and the gods of Zidon, and the gods of Moab, and the gods of the children of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines, and forsook the Lord, and served not him.


Punishment (Tribulation, Servitude, Penury, Hardship, Slavery)

Judges 10:7-8
King James Version
7 And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel, and he sold them into the hands of the Philistines, and into the hands of the children of Ammon.
8 And that year they vexed and oppressed the children of Israel: eighteen years, all the children of Israel that were on the other side Jordan in the land of the Amorites, which is in Gilead.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 7:41am On Apr 11, 2025
Tribulation

Judges 10:9-14
King James Version
9 Moreover the children of Ammon passed over Jordan to fight also against Judah, and against Benjamin, and against the house of Ephraim; so that Israel was sore distressed.

10 And the children of Israel cried unto the Lord, saying, We have sinned against thee, both because we have forsaken our God, and also served Baalim.

11 And the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Did not I deliver you from the Egyptians, and from the Amorites, from the children of Ammon, and from the Philistines?

12 The Zidonians also, and the Amalekites, and the Maonites, did oppress you; and ye cried to me, and I delivered you out of their hand.

13 Yet ye have forsaken me, and served other gods: wherefore I will deliver you no more.

14 Go and cry unto the gods which ye have chosen; let them deliver you in the time of your tribulation.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 7:49am On Apr 11, 2025
A Saviour, Salvation

Judges 10:17-18
King James Version
17 Then the children of Ammon were gathered together, and encamped in Gilead. And the children of Israel assembled themselves together, and encamped in Mizpeh.
18 And the people and princes of Gilead said one to another, What man is he that will begin to fight against the children of Ammon? he shall be head over all the inhabitants of Gilead.


General Jephthah

Judges 11:1
King James Version
11 Now Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty man of valour, and he was the son of an harlot: and Gilead begat Jephthah.

Judges 11:4-6
King James Version
4 And it came to pass in process of time, that the children of Ammon made war against Israel.
5 And it was so, that when the children of Ammon made war against Israel, the elders of Gilead went to fetch Jephthah out of the land of Tob:
6 And they said unto Jephthah, Come, and be our captain, that we may fight with the children of Ammon.


Redemption and Deliverance

Judges 11:32
King James Version
32 So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the Lord delivered them into his hands.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 8:03am On Apr 11, 2025
Judges 12:7-15

After Jephthah, other judges came
Ibzan of Jerusalem
Elon of Zebulon
Abdon the son of Hillel, a Pirathonite
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 8:08am On Apr 11, 2025
Back to heathenism, idolatry and abomination

Judges 13:1
King James Version
1 And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the Lord; and the Lord delivered them into the hand of the Philistines forty years.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 8:11am On Apr 11, 2025
So, this present great tribulation commenced in 70AD when Rome sacked Jerusalem. Rome was bound up into the bottomless pit circa 500AD and released circa 1500AD, intact, Rome's resurrection was completed on the 2nd of January 1492

From that day till date we have been in the second phase of the great tribulation.

This tribulation will end when we see David enthroned over Israel.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by Fireoflife: 3:17am On Apr 12, 2025
MrPresident1:
Judges 6:6
King James Version
6 And Israel was greatly impoverished because of the Midianites; and the children of Israel cried unto the Lord.


The part A of this verse is true, but we are not so sure of the part B, whether the people are truly calling upon the LORD.

Judah who dwells in Nigeria has become the centre of multidisciplinary multifaceted multidimensional poverty in the world all by the activities of the Babylonians.

Before the kingdom of God is established right on this earth, the great tribulation has to end first. The teeth, talons, claws, beaks, paws and power of evil birds and beasts must first be broken; the Frayer must come. Under him, we shall have peace, protection and prosperity.

No one is disappearing to anywhere. If anyone is still selling a rapture of mysterious disappearance to you, and you still believe them, you are on your own.

When you were suffering like a wild animal you did not disappear, but when it is your turn to start enjoying, they said you will disappear.

So do not disappear. Rapture of mysterious disappearing is a lie!

Rapture of endless joy is the truth.
everytime you hear shalipoppis laho. Know that it's the children of Israel subconsciously calling on him
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 10:43am On Apr 12, 2025
Psalm 113:5-8
King James Version
5 Who is like unto the Lord our God, who dwelleth on high,
6 Who humbleth himself to behold the things that are in heaven, and in the earth!
7 He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth the needy out of the dunghill;
8 That he may set him with princes, even with the princes of his people.


This is the manner of the elevation of Christ. He is Lazarus who was seating under the rich man's table eating crumbs

Luke 16:20-21
King James Version
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 11:13pm On Apr 12, 2025
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Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 10:47pm On Apr 13, 2025
When David Michael becomes king he still has great work to do to subdue the whole earth.

But one thing is sure, Babylon and Babylonians have no role to play in the events of the end times, because Babylon will be subdued and subjected as one of the first items on the end time agenda.

The kings of the Medes will hold their woman tight

Jeremiah 51:28
King James Version
Prepare against her the nations with the kings of the Medes, the captains thereof, and all the rulers thereof, and all the land of his dominion.
Re: Two Popularly Commingled Endtime Events That Are Not The Same Thing by MrPresident1(op): 8:02am On Apr 14, 2025
1 Peter 2:8-10
King James Version
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
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