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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:58am On Apr 11, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Since men can't kill the identity that means the identity persists after its physical demise!
NO the person's identity is stored in God's memory book {Malachi 3:16} but as for those who don't care about God there is nothing to write home about them so they are gone forever! Psalms 9:17

That's the import of Jesus' statement @ Matthew 10:28 wink
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 9:59am On Apr 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
This is what Jehovah promised to do in the end time:

He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore. Isaiah 2:4

That's why Jesus said his father and himself has continued working {John 5:17} so he can't do anything separate apart from following his father's program {John 5:30} today Jehovah's Witnesses as Jehovah now calls His worshipers in our time {Isaiah 65:15} has used Jesus' teachings to erase the making, buying, selling and using of weapons in the hearts of His true worshipers globally {Psalms 46:9} so when you hear of people killing people in the name of WAR know that it's those who aren't members of God's peace loving family that's why Satan can brainwash them into killing themselves! Revelations 6:3-4

Do you still think our God is not WORKING? wink
Emphasis on "Nation shall not rise up against Nation". This alone refutes this write up🤦🏾‍♂️
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:04am On Apr 11, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Emphasis on "Nation shall not rise up against Nation". This alone refutes this write up🤦🏾‍♂️
Nation will not rise against nation means believers in Christ from different nations will have LOVE among themselves {John 13:34-35} LOVE their neighbours as they love themselves {Mark 12:31} and LOVE even pray for their enemies! Luke 6:27-28

Where did they come from?
Are they not people from the nations?
YES! They are the nations {Isaiah 2:2-3} but they have used God's word to resolve their disparities peacefully among themselves.

Do you get it now? smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 10:16am On Apr 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Nation will not rise against nation means believers in Christ from different nations will have LOVE among themselves {John 13:34-35} LOVE their neighbours as they love themselves {Mark 12:31} and LOVE even pray for their enemies! Luke 6:27-28

Where did they come from?
Are they not people from the nations?
YES! They are the nations {Isaiah 2:2-3} but they have used God's word to resolve their disparities peacefully among themselves.

Do you get it now? smiley
😂😂😂😂Nothing wey Musa no go see for gate! What a pathetic way to reconcile this absurd doctrine with reality🤤!

So, are you suggesting that when Isaiah had his vision, he was foreseeing Islamic terrorism, the Russia-Ukraine war, and the Israel-Hamas conflict? That’s quite a stretch! It seems you’re not just lacking in intellectual depth; you might be completely devoid of critical thinking skills!
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24am On Apr 11, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂😂Nothing wey Musa no go see for gate! What a pathetic way to reconcile this absurd doctrine with reality🤤!
Absurd to you because you are physical {1Corinthans 2:14} but that's the reality as God's Holy Spirit is working in the hearts of true believers {Philippians 2:13} unlike physical man like you who can only quote what he doesn't grasp and by the end of the day it's just LETTERS you keep arguing about there's no SPIRIT to back it up {2 Corinthians 3:6} so nothing to show for your DEAD faith! James 2:18 smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 10:30am On Apr 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Absurd to you because you are physical {1Corinthans 2:14} but that's the reality as God's Holy Spirit is working in the hearts of true believers {Philippians 2:13} unlike physical man like you who can only quote what he doesn't grasp and by the end of the day it's just LETTERS you keep arguing about there's no SPIRIT to back it up {2 Corinthians 3:6} so nothing to show for your DEAD faith! James 2:18 smiley
Better speak for yourself and stop projecting 😅. Irrespective of whether it's spiritual, it should be coherent after all God is truth🤨. A simple contradiction throws all that a way! 🤤

"Nations shall not rise up against Nations" is a perfect self refuting verse 😂. Lack of wisdom, knowledge and foresight has always plagued you all the days I have known you.

You never think your premises through before coming to a logical conclusion 🤨, probably perks of suspending one's brain🤔.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:42am On Apr 11, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Better speak for yourself and stop projecting 😅. Irrespective of whether it's spiritual, it should be coherent after all God is truth🤨. A simple contradiction throws all that a way!
Even Jesus was said to contradict himself while speaking {John 6:60} so they turned their backs on Jesus {John 6:66} but which gathering will they go to get a better teacher?
Peter answered:

“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.  We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God" John 6:68-69

Is this not what silence you anytime you are asked to mention your church or any better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by TemmyT002(m): 10:43am On Apr 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Please you don't need to insult anyone evidence is everywhere:


You really need to stop or at least reduce your intake of weed.









Only a brainwashed person will just say what is infused in his head with nothing to back it up as evidence! smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 10:46am On Apr 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Even Jesus was said to contradict himself while speaking {John 6:60} so they turned their backs on Jesus {John 6:66} but which gathering will they go to get a better teacher?
Peter answered:

“Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life.  We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God" John 6:68-69

Is this not what silence you anytime you are asked to mention your church or any better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy
It doesn't silence 🤭 me but rather puts you to shame because you have no other substance, save to appeal to works🤔. Every sane person can see that you appealing to people (argumentum ad populum 🥲) is not entirely a basis for Truth🧐.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:16pm On Apr 11, 2025
Dhon11:
Mind you. Churches of now days have been commercialized. Forget about calling the name of Christ. Its now a business center. It depends on what club you want to attend.

My mum still hold grudges against me because I've decided not to attend any. I prefare to say my prayers at home. Every Sunday she calls and ask if I go to church.

That is why you hear those unexplainable testimonies people give. Its just a way to trend. Once people hear of the church. The followers will boom. That means more funds will come in. And the leader will follow up with every necessary means.

Just few churches are safe. Because the pastor still looks hungry doesn't mean it's safe. He hasn't gotten his plug yet
Two wrongs can't make a right. You must belong to a local assembly to be on track for the heavenly race. Being a member of a local assembly is not a ticket to heaven but you must be part of one to stand the chance of making heaven. This is on the assumption that you are already born again.

The scripture gave us an instruction not to forsake the gathering together of the saints in Hebrews 10:25. And it says that those who violate this instruction are committing wilful sin that could cost you your salvation - Hebrews 10:26-31.

Please, go back to church and just serve him with your heart.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:25pm On Apr 11, 2025
zoedew:
2. It is absolutely impossible to frustrate whom God has called. It is however not impossible to frustrate who starts out on his own to start a church.
It is happening. God established David as a King but King Saul frustrated him for several years.

The frustration means delay. But if you keep pressing on, you will certainly fulfil your ministry.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:27pm On Apr 11, 2025
femi4:
They are encouraged by the followers. Imagine if they face empty seats on Sundays back to back....their egos will drop
You are correct. Gullible followers who are loyal to a fault. Even if they found out that their G. O is a womaniser or a murderer, they are still ready to follow.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:30pm On Apr 11, 2025
zionstaar75:
who are you to judge them?no wonder you're trapped on one spot camping on nairaland
I am not judging. I am exposing their evil works.

Ephesians 5:11 instructs us to expose unfruitful works of darkness.

I am not trapped. No one can trap me. I am too loaded to fail or be trapped.

It's like you are one of them.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:32pm On Apr 11, 2025
Seunomobo:
Which Judgement dayhuh?
Stop being delusional bro, if you can't give them their judgement here, sope otilor...
The reason why people hang on to judgement day is just to have a glimpse of hope that their enemies would be punished..but I kid u not, as far as Im concerned, they'll not experience any form of judgement...
Vengeance is the exclusive right of God. "I will repay says the Lord".
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:33pm On Apr 11, 2025
pimplucious:
Nothing like judgement don’t be fooled.
Judgement day is real. Jesus has been appointed to judge the dead and the living. And it is very close.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:36pm On Apr 11, 2025
Andolive47:
Touch not my anointed and do my prophets no harm
I didn't mention specific names. So, your quote is uncalled for.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:38pm On Apr 11, 2025
qtx:
For all i care, your statements are speculative and until you start talking in terms of evidence and specifics, you are a rumour monger.
Those I am talking to know themselves. Go to YouTube and hear out from some victims. You are a kid in ministry.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:39pm On Apr 11, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Two wrongs can't make a right. You must belong to a local assembly to be on track for the heavenly race.
What is the name of your own local assembly? smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:39pm On Apr 11, 2025
Truvelisback:
Mention them.
It's not necessary. They know themselves. Some of the victims have mentioned names on camera. Go to YouTube and search.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:41pm On Apr 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Scriptures you don't understand? grin

Oya mention any church that's free from what you are saying.

I mentioned Jehovah's Witnesses and instantly a neutral commentator attested to it.

I'm waiting Mr overwhelming scripture evidence to mention the name of any church that's not doing what you are complaining about here today! cheesy
Please, don't mention JW organisation as a church. You are an anti Christ organisation. And you know it. You punishment will be worse.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 12:42pm On Apr 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
What is the name of your own local assembly? smiley
Why do you want to know?
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Truvelisback(m): 12:44pm On Apr 11, 2025
Ken4Christ:
It's not necessary. They know themselves. Some of the victims have mentioned names on camera. Go to YouTube and search.
Mention atleast 2 G.Os you know. I want to know how.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by qtx(m): 12:53pm On Apr 11, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Those I am talking to know themselves. Go to YouTube and hear out from some victims. You are a kid in ministry.
Who told you the court takes evidence from YouTube? Ignorance is suicidal indeed. People create content to survive, and without any agency censoring what they post, you go and watch and begin to speak with authority. You must be a joker. Haven't you seen people deleting YouTube videos when the chips are down? Trust those videos at your own risk, bro.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:03pm On Apr 11, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Please, don't mention JW organisation as a church. You are an anti Christ organisation. And you know it. You punishment will be worse.
Please try to convince the below poster and scores of Nairalanders that likes his post! smiley

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics


I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:05pm On Apr 11, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Why do you want to know?
If you condemn some churches and you don't want to mention their names why do you hide the name of yours?

Shouldn't you tell them the name of your own church so that interested ones may distinguish between false prophets and true ones? smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by butterfly777(m): 1:16pm On Apr 11, 2025
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
To make serious allegations like this, you have to at least substantiate them by citing examples, otherwise, your assertiins are baseless and just empty mudslinging.

I await your proofs so that I may take you seriously.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by butterfly777(m): 1:19pm On Apr 11, 2025
Oh I see! This is a Jehovah Witness promoting propaganda. Smh.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:37pm On Apr 11, 2025
butterfly777:
Oh I see! This is a Jehovah Witness promoting propaganda. Smh.
OP hates Jehovah's Witnesses the table just turned around! smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by pimplucious: 1:58pm On Apr 11, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Judgement day is real. Jesus has been appointed to judge the dead and the living. And it is very close.
Bible wielding, ship sailing, slave taking European bandits brought Christianity to you in the western part while Camel riding, desert gliding, land conquering marauding Arabian slave takers brought Islam in the north and told you your culture is evil but their is what God recognize and you think they want your best interest?

Sit down and think about this.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 2:12pm On Apr 11, 2025
butterfly777:
To make serious allegations like this, you have to at least substantiate them by citing examples, otherwise, your assertiins are baseless and just empty mudslinging.

I await your proofs so that I may take you seriously.
Ken4Christ:
I am not judging. I am exposing their evil works.

Ephesians 5:11 instructs us to expose unfruitful works of darkness.

I am not trapped. No one can trap me. I am too loaded to fail or be trapped.

It's like you are one of them.
Shuuoooo !!!!!
Pastor no get liver to expose anyone.

How will a pulpit bandit expose his fellow pulpit bandits?
grin grin grin grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:36pm On Apr 11, 2025
Janosky:
Shuuoooo !!!!!
Pastor no get liver to expose anyone.
How will a pulpit bandit expose his fellow pulpit bandits? grin grin grin grin
If he does followers of those people will bombard his thread questioning him to mention his own church nah.
So it's only Jehovah's Witnesses he can talk against hoping everyone will support him but surprisingly Jehovah's Witnesses organization got secret admirers all over Nairaland.

See 87 still counting likes people gave JWs! wink
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 4:17pm On Apr 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. ‭Matthew 10:5-6 NIV‬



He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” ‭Matthew 15:24 NIV‬


Jesus will never ever worship with anyone outside the temple in Jerusalem! undecided
Didn't Jesus minister and Share the Goodnews with the Samaritan woman at the well?

Most of you just read a verse without understanding what the entire chapter is talking about. The reason why Jesus gave his disciples that specific instruction in Mathew 10; 5-6 is because the Goodnews is meant for the Israelites FIRST! because it is they who need it the most at that particular time due to the Law and commandments that were given to them by God through Moses at Sinai.
But that doesn't mean he will never minister or share the Goodnews or healing with a gentile. He ministered to a Samaritan woman like I pointed out earlier, he Also healed the Daughter of the centurion's servant in Matthew 8:5-13, Luke 7:1-10)

Even in Mathew 15; 24 that you mentioned is not the full text in that passage. In the full text Jesus healed the woman and praised her great faith.

Here it is

A Woman's Faith
21 Jesus left that place and went off to the territory near the cities of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman who lived in that region came to him. “Son of David!” she cried out. “Have mercy on me, sir! My daughter has a demon and is in a terrible condition.”

23 But Jesus did not say a word to her. His disciples came to him and begged him, “Send her away! She is following us and making all this noise!”

24 Then Jesus replied, “I have been sent only to the lost sheep of the people of Israel.”

25 At this the woman came and fell at his feet. “Help me, sir!” she said.

26 Jesus answered, “It isn't right to take the children's food and throw it to the dogs.”

27 “That's true, sir,” she answered, “but even the dogs eat the leftovers that fall from their masters' table.”

28 So Jesus answered her, “You are a woman of great faith! What you want will be done for you.” And at that very moment her daughter was healed.

So you're wrong here.

Also you're wrong for saying that Jesus will never worship with anyone outside the Temple in Jerusalem, when he performed the miracle of bread and fishes twice, he worshipped and gave praise to Yahweh, and that was in the open field, not inside the temple.
Again during the Passover feast, at the hall where the last supper took place, Jesus worshipped, praised and prayed to Yahweh on behalf of his disciples.

Remember what he told the Samaritan woman? It doesn't matter where or when you worship the Lord Your God, but How you worship the Lord Your God.
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