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Warrior99:
Exactly, and the tribalism on Nairaland is what greatly fuelled the tribalism on X; long may it continue.

That is not true.

Tribalism on nairaland didn't fuel tribalism on X

Nigerian is a country with different tribes, hence there will be stereotypes of different tribes, it is also similar to people who live in multi racial countries.

As long as there are different tribes, there will be always be tribalism.

Anybody thinking otherwise is living in a fantasy world.

Ijebus and lawyers 🤣🤣🤣🤣

advanceDNA:
What's your point??

The point I am making is simple.

People accuse nairaland for tribalism when the real tribalism is going happening on Twitter 24/7

Here on nairaland at least it is moderated.

On Twitter it is not and people fuel tribalism and agenda there daily,they breath it there and act on it

motymop:
The point I am making is simple.

People accuse nairaland for tribalism when the real tribalism is going happening on Twitter 24/7

Here on nairaland at least it is moderated.

On Twitter it is not and people fuel tribalism and agenda there daily,they breath it there and act on it

See I get your English.....weda twitter or Nairaland...tribal bigotry is not a good thing... U trying to justify it here with ur claims that it is more on twitter is absurd to me...

U sound like those that justify violence in Nigeria with violence in United States schools

ERockson:
These people will pay first rent and won't pay again. They will even follow you to court, they have their kinsmen running legal services as regards tendency issue. Chosen kinds are more worse in this matter. They will try to kill you with devilish prayers on top your property

I wonder why the commenters are seeing only igbos 🤣🤣🤣.
Before I got married, my friends and I wanted to rent a three-bedroom apartment so we could have our rooms to ourselves while we were working. However, the landlord said he does not let single women live in his house, and we have no issues with him to this day. Perhaps some women have taught him a lesson he will never forget.

columbus007:
Who was awolowo, was it not that baba they said he took some poison

na him

An Ogbo man blinded my then landlord after he was forced to leave the house

He packed out, used digger to break the all the roofing , ceiling and floor

Then he came back 4 days later to attack him in his bathroom and stabbed him in the eye 👁️


That’s who they are

advanceDNA:
See I get your English.....weda twitter or Nairaland...tribal bigotry is not a good thing... U trying to justify it here with ur claims that it is more on twitter is absurd to me...

U sound like those that justify violence in Nigeria with violence in United States schools

You got to deal with either of the 2

Violence and tribal bigotry are part of the experience of living in this world

If you allow both to ruin your day, then it is up to you.

One thing you need to realize, you can't change the world to suit what you want.

It up to you to filter what you wanna hear or listen to.

motymop:
Nigerian is a country with different tribes, hence there will be stereotypes of different tribes, it is also similar to people who live in multi racial countries.

As long as there are different tribes, there will be always be tribalism.

Anybody thinking otherwise is living in a fantasy world.

The above is VERY correct.

AndroBlaze:
The guy is just a fool, of all the stories he could use this Friday to attack Yoruba... it is this one which only shows again how accommodating we are.

My grandmother (of blessed memory) could not speak English and was a typical core Yoruba landlord who always preferred to rent her flats to people she felt had good manners. She was from Ife, so she mostly preferred people from her place in particular.

When I stayed with her for a while, I saw the easiest way to confuse her was to pretend to have manners, bring your personal problems to her to solve and so on. So many of her Yoruba tennants did this before still eventually falling out with her as she was a shrewd woman.

One day she wanted to do a general renovation of her property ...all the tenants as usual started to bring in their contractors with silly quotes since they knew Mama cannot go to the market to verify anything. I was getting angry until she told me she already had a plan. She told me she would call one of the best tennants she ever had ( who happened to sell building materials) that would never cheat her.

So one fateful day I came back from work, saw a strange car in front of the compound and I guessed she had a visitor. When I got to the parlour I saw her laughing with someone who was clearly struggling to speak Yoruba but understood what she was saying. In short, it was a typical Igbo businessman who in a million years I would have never expected to be the tennant she had praised so much as being honest and industrious.

He was clearly a big man and one could see this job was too small for a big man like him to come all the way down. The quote he gave was almost half what the others had proposed and far more extensive than all I had seen. My grandmother did not even look at it....it was like her main aim of calling him over was to gist and reminisce. His boys started the work the next day and this was one of the few times my grandmother did not have any complaint or anxiety. The renovation stands till today.

Everyone has biases and prejudices, but in my experience most Yorubas don't allow that to stop them from knowing people should be ultimately judged individually for their unique personalities. Which is still what Osibanjo and his landlord actually did.

I stay in Surulere now and I can tell you that a lot of Surulere landlords that happen to be Igbo still prefer not to rent their flats to fellow Igbos.

Prejudice is part of life, its if you allow them to rule and control your life, that's what ultimately matters.

Cant u see your grandma is smart...


When it was time to find trusted competent hands she no allow the tribalism cloud her head to dey find kinsmen with respect. She went to a competent hand irrespective of the tribe. That's smartness...she knew when to hang the tribalism cloak.. if only buhari and bat were half as smart as the woman.. but no . Tribalism must cloud reason on every occasion ..

motymop:
You got to deal with either of the 2

Violence and tribal bigotry are part of the experience of living in this world

If you allow both to ruin your day, then it is up to you.

One thing you need to realize, you can't change the world to suit what you want.

It up to you to filter what you wanna hear or listen to.

Oh..now I get you.....u want it to continue

advanceDNA:
This tribal thing and nairaland..!!!


Oga seun ...u need a special mod to tackle tribal post and topics....


Its too much

no mod can tackle tribal posts and topics. this behaviour is very common not only in nairaland but in other popular websites like twitter. the difference is that they call it different names but at the core, it is the same fact of people hating people because of their differences

advanceDNA:
This tribal thing and nairaland..!!!


Oga seun ...u need a special mod to tackle tribal post and topics....


Its too much

E don tay, no be today

seunmsg:
Igbos own 95% of houses in Lagos according to some empty chest beaters. So, why are they still crying that Yoruba landlords are not renting their properties to them? Why not go to your fellow Igbo landlord for house?

So that's why you don't rent to ijebu your brothers too

Are they tainted blood?

yarimo:
so lawyer is now a tribe to you?

Blindness no let you see ijebu?

Nomercie:
@bold, you must be mad if you don't see anything bad in Zik becoming premier of Southwest

Is it madness for kemi to aspire to be prime minister in UK?

arantess:
Blindness no let you see ijebu?

is lawyer a tribe isn't that simple question? Illiterate kids everywhere

advanceDNA:
Oh..now I get you.....u want it to continue

You will be lying to yourself if you think you can stop both

Among the three ardent fighters for Nigeria's independence in the '50s, Awo was indisputably the smartest. There is no room for contention in that regard as every student of Nigerian history will attest to its veracity. What, however, cannot be ignored is the fact that Awo, as brilliant as he was, spun the fibre of the contemporary unbridled tribalism that has become so intricately woven in every layer of the fabric of the Nigerian society, be it religion, politics, or even business.

His deliberate misrepresentation of the Western Premiership election as an ethnic battle rather than a clash of political ideals, where the contestant with the best ideal-constituent fit wins betrayed his highly coveted western education, portraying him as a man not at all dissimilar to thugs-turned-politicians ever so ready to fight dirty to achieve a political goal. His nefarious strategy worked so well that decades down the line, the average Nigerian still fails at placing policy as the highest priority when casting their vote. Our so-called founding fathers were blessed to occupy the unique position of steering the path of a soon-to-be Independent country to greatness, eschewing the backward tenets of tribalism that left them the biggest failures in the globe, but ultimately chose the sinister path that leads to doom like their fathers before them. Awo, being the smartest, surprised me even more by adorning a XXL clown costume.

Perhaps his failures to achieve his lofty political goals, evidenced by his constant adulation of George Washington and Winston Churchill, was a karmic response to the active role he played in ensuring that the future of his countrymen centuries down the line amounted to nothing.

AndroBlaze:
The guy is just a fool, of all the stories he could use this Friday to attack Yoruba... it is this one which only shows again how accommodating we are.

My grandmother (of blessed memory) could not speak English and was a typical core Yoruba landlord who always preferred to rent her flats to people she felt had good manners. She was from Ife, so she mostly preferred people from her place in particular.

When I stayed with her for a while, I saw the easiest way to confuse her was to pretend to have manners, bring your personal problems to her to solve and so on. So many of her Yoruba tennants did this before still eventually falling out with her as she was a shrewd woman.

One day she wanted to do a general renovation of her property ...all the tenants as usual started to bring in their contractors with silly quotes since they knew Mama cannot go to the market to verify anything. I was getting angry until she told me she already had a plan. She told me she would call one of the best tennants she ever had ( who happened to sell building materials) that would never cheat her.

So one fateful day I came back from work, saw a strange car in front of the compound and I guessed she had a visitor. When I got to the parlour I saw her laughing with someone who was clearly struggling to speak Yoruba but understood what she was saying. In short, it was a typical Igbo businessman who in a million years I would have never expected to be the tennant she had praised so much as being honest and industrious.

He was clearly a big man and one could see this job was too small for a big man like him to come all the way down. The quote he gave was almost half what the others had proposed and far more extensive than all I had seen. My grandmother did not even look at it....it was like her main aim of calling him over was to gist and reminisce. His boys started the work the next day and this was one of the few times my grandmother did not have any complaint or anxiety. The renovation stands till today.

Everyone has biases and prejudices, but in my experience most Yorubas don't allow that to stop them from knowing people should be ultimately judged individually for their unique personalities. Which is still what Osibanjo and his landlord actually did.

I stay in Surulere now and I can tell you that a lot of Surulere landlords that happen to be Igbo still prefer not to rent their flats to fellow Igbos.

Prejudice is part of life, its if you allow them to rule and control your life, that's what ultimately matters.

I agree with you.

I got.my first house at Shangisha Lagos, the Landlord was a Yoruba Muslim. 6 months later he sold the house and notified me. I got another apartment in less than 2 weeks and he was very impressed (he had promised to refund my balance), I needed the balance to pay for the new house anyways but the new Landlord (another Yoruba muslim) said he does not accept Igbos. I informed the previous landlord of my challenge because we were close.

This my first Landlord, personally followed me to the new landlord, informed him that I was his best tenant and even pledged to stand as a guarantor for me. That was how I got the apartment.

The bias thing is not generic but specific to some individuals regardless of ethnicity

UU

Penguin2:
Just so you all know that the bigotry and Igbo hate didn’t start today.

It started since Awolowo planted it on the night of the inauguration of Western Regional Assembly when he convinced Yorubas that were elected on the platform of NCNC to defect to AG so that AG can become majority and he (Awolowo) and not Azikiwe, can become Premier of Western Region.

Since then, that region has not recovered from Igbophobia and bigotry. With some exceptions of course.

What Azikiwe did was bigotry

Northerners can rule themselves
Easterners can rule themselves
But westerners shouldn't rule themselves


Why?!!!


If Azikiwe didn't want the British Ruling his own Homeland what makes him think the West didn't want to rule their own Homeland according to their Culture and beliefs themselves too?

Why didn't Azikiwe first work to put a Westerner as the Premier of the East if he wanted to be premier of the west so nobody is taking undue advantage of the other side?

That is his choice.
If you don't like it, then go back to your land.

Christistruth02:
UU


What Azikiwe did was bigotry

Northerners can rule themselves
Easterners can rule themselves
But westerners shouldn't rule themselves


Why?!!!


If Azikiwe didn't want the British Ruling his own Homeland what makes him think the West didn't want to rule their own Homeland according to their Culture and beliefs themselves too?

Why didn't Azikiwe first work to put a Westerner as the Premier of the East if he wanted to be premier of the west so nobody is taking undue advantage of the other side?

The first ever elected mayor of Enugu was a northerner.

We are not bigots.

Dougad:
Among the three ardent fighters for Nigeria's independence in the '50s, Awo was indisputably the smartest. There is no room for contention in that regard as every student of Nigerian history will attest to its veracity. What, however, cannot be circumvented is the fact that Awo, as brilliant as he was, spearheaded the fibre of the contemporary unbridled tribalism that has become so intricately woven in every fabric of the Nigerian society, be it religion, politics, or even business.

His deliberate misrepresentation of the Western Premiership election as an ethnic battle rather than a clash of political ideals, where the contestant with the best ideal-constituent fit wins betrayed his highly coveted western education, portraying him as a man not at all dissimilar to thugs-turned-politicians ever so ready to fight dirty to achieve a political goal. His nefarious strategy worked so well that decades down the line, the average Nigerian still fails at placing policy as the highest priority when casting their vote. Our so-called founding fathers were blessed to occupy the unique position of steering the path of a soon-to-be Independent country to greatness, eschewing the backward tenets of tribalism that left them the biggest failures in the globe, but ultimately chose the sinister path that leads to doom like their fathers before them. Awo, being the smartest, surprised me even more by adorning a XXL clown costume.

Perhaps his failures to achieve his lofty political goals, evidenced by his constant adulation of George Washington and Winston Churchill, was a karmic response to the active role he played in ensuring that the future of his countrymen centuries down the line amounted to nothing.

You are right.

About a year ago, I took my time to research on the two men (Awolowo and Azikiwe) and even though I’m Igbo, I couldn’t help but accept that Awolowo was smarter and more intelligent than Azikiwe.

Awolowo was trained in UK while Azikiwe was American trained.

I read their speeches and saw Awolowo’s visions were clear and lucid. But I found out he was an idealist. Azikiwe, influenced by American culture, was a pragmatist. Providing realistic solution to what is instead of grumbling about what ought to be.

But like you summed up, between the two of them, Azikiwe’s heart was purer.

Awolowo damaged Nigeria forever.

Penguin2:
Just so you all know that the bigotry and Igbo hate didn’t start today.

It started since Awolowo planted it on the night of the inauguration of Western Regional Assembly when he convinced Yorubas that were elected on the platform of NCNC to defect to AG so that AG can become majority and he (Awolowo) and not Azikiwe, can become Premier of Western Region.

Since then, that region has not recovered from Igbophobia and bigotry. With some exceptions of course.

1. NCNC was founded by Herbert Macaulay, a Yoruba man, and it is a testament to the accommodating nature of the Yorubas that Azikiwe not only became a member of the NCNC but also rose to its leadership.

2. It is evidence not ronly of Azikiwe's disdain for the Yoruba but also of his pipe dream of subjugating them that he couldn't find any Yoruba NCNC leader to be Premier of the Western Region except himself, a South Easterner.

3. It is on record that no sooner had Azikiwe taken over leadership of NCNC that he began filling the key positions with Easterners and in particular people from his Igbo ethnic group. By his actions, he directly or indirectly transformed NCNC from a national party into an Igbo or Eastern party.

4. By the benefit of hindsight, it would have been a disastrous mistake if Azikiwe had been made Premier of Western Region instead of Awolowo. We all know that Azikiwe's leadership and legacy in the Eastern Region is far beneath what Awolowo's legacy and contributions to the development of the Western Region.

5. A careful examination of Zikism and the Zikist Movement reveals their death as a result of the fact that Azikiwe was unwilling to make the required personal sacrifices unlike Mathma Ghandi. Hence it was only Awolowo that was able to found and lead a party based on ideology in the entire country. It is little wonder that NCNC became a party synonymous with corruption with flag bearers like Mbadiwe and Okotie-Eboh. Even Azikiwe was marred in corruption scandal keeping Government Funds in African Continental Bank, a bank founded by him and in which he still held shares while being Premier of Easteen Region.

6. It is no wonder that when corruption was rife in the First Republic with NCNC politicians and Azikiwe associates like Mbadiwe and Okotie-Eboh as poster children of corruption, the First Military Coup by Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna sought to free Awolowo from prison and hand the reigns of national leadership to him to change the course of the nation.

It was a well known fact even by that time that it was only Awolowo as Premier of the Western Region that had demonstrated exceptional develomental leadership not marred by corruption.

7. I am often surprised when some uninformed people, primarily of Igbo extraction, claim that Awolowo introduced tribalism into Nigerian Politics, when it is a clear historical fact that Azikiwe was one of the earliest champions of tribalism. Azikiwe saw no wrong with nepotism and tribalism and even gave a public lecture on the benefits of tribalism in forging national unity in the Princess Alexandra Auditorium at the University of Nigeria, Nsukka in 1964 after he became President of Nigeria.

Babinski:
1. NCNC was founded by Herbert Macaulay, a Yoruba man, and it is a testament to the accommodating nature of the Yorubas that Azikiwe not only became a member of the NCNC but also rose to its leadership.

2. It is evidence not ronly of Azikiwe's disdain for the Yoruba but also of his pipe dream of subjugating them that he couldn't find any Yoruba NCNC leader to be Premier of the Western Region except himself, a South Easterner.

3. It is on record that no sooner had Azikiwe taken over leadership of NCNC that he began filling the key positions with Easterners and in particular people from his Igbo ethnic group. By his actions, he directly or indirectly transformed NCNC from a national party into an Igbo or Eastern party.

4. By the benefit of hindsight, it would have been a disastrous mistake if Azikiwe had been made Premier of Western Region instead of Awolowo. We all know that Azikiwe's leadership and legacy in the Eastern Region is far beneath what Awolowo's legacy and contributions to the development of the Western Region.

5. A careful examination of Zikism and the Zikist Movement reveals their death as a result of the fact that Azikiwe was unwilling to make the required personal sacrifices unlike Mathma Ghandi. Hence it was only Awolowo that was able to found and lead a party based on ideology in the entire country. It is little wonder that NCNC became a party synonymous with corruption with flag bearers like Mbadiwe and Okotie-Eboh. Even Azikiwe was marred in corruption scandal keeping Government Funds in African Continental Bank, a bank founded by him and in which he still held shares while being Premier of Easteen Region.

6. It is no wonder that when corruption was rife in the First Republic with NCNC politicians and Azikiwe associates like Mbadiwe and Okotie-Eboh as poster children of corruption, the First Military Coup by Nzeogwu and Ifeajuna sought to free Awolowo from prison and hand the reigns of national leadership to him to change the course of the nation.

It was a well known fact even by that time that it was only Awolowo as Premier of the Western Region that had demonstrated exceptional develomental leadership not marred by corruption.

7. I am often surprised when some uninformed people, primarily of Igbo extraction, claim that Awolowo introduced tribalism into Nigerian Politics, when it is a clear historical fact that Azikiwe was one of the earliest champions of tribalism. Azikiwe saw no wrong with nepotism and tribalism and even gave a public lecture on the benefits of tribalism in forging national unity in the Princess Alexandra Auditorium at the University of Nigeria, Nsukka in 1964 after he became President of Nigeria.

You mean Yoruba people saw all these and still went ahead to vote for Azikiwe’s party in majority?

There are two things involved here:- it’s either you are lying through your teeth and distorting facts or you are saying the Yoruba populace of then were dumb.

And where are the facts to back all these claims of yours?

Warrior99:
Exactly how it should be!

I don't rent any of my properties to IGBOS as well.

You can't determine who a property owner should let HIS PROPERTY to.

You can go elsewhere; besides IT'S NOT A MUST TO LIVE IN LAGOS OR ANY PART OF THE SOUTH WEST.

EOD!

Mr post this your property let me post mine.
Lagos landlord get levels abeg
You nairalanders do way too much mouth in this technology age .

Let's talk with pictures if na man you be.
You people love throwing rocks from darkness

Ikenna from Onitsha
Happy n Eager to embarrass you

The energy shift is palpable once these people hear igbo. I HATE YOU TOO BITCH

When you see me, say something. Na your land i dey enter first anytime I touch down. But all I ever see is brown teeth smiles, extended hands, n cries of oga .

You pussies wait to turn on data to spew your hate

Warrior99:
Exactly how it should be!

I don't rent any of my properties to IGBOS as well.

You can't determine who a property owner should let HIS PROPERTY to.

You can go elsewhere; besides IT'S NOT A MUST TO LIVE IN LAGOS OR ANY PART OF THE SOUTH WEST.

EOD!

Igbo man will one day buy that your property, either from you or your grand children when you have gone to meet your ancestors.