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tctrills:
My point exactly, you have no context. That the British refused all their colonies self rule has zero to to with the Jews or favoring the Jews. Please show the link if you can.

I wasn't the person you started this talk with. I highlighted two points of debate when i jump in. So i kind of feel this talk is baseless

Krismas:
I wasn't the person you started this talk with. I highlighted two points of debate when i jump in. So i kind of feel this talk is baseless

The Nigerian Land Use Act of 1978 is the primary legislation governing land ownership and administration in Nigeria. It vests all land in each state in the governor, who holds it in trust for the people.
Who was the government of Palestine? Was it not the Ottoman?

Krismas:
I wasn't the person you started this talk with. I highlighted two points of debate when i jump in. So i kind of feel this talk is baseless

This is one of the points you highlighted. You stated that the Jews used fraudulent means to obtain land. So we are right on point.

tctrills:
The ottoman were the government of the day yes or no? If you want to buy land, wouldn't you buy government approved land? So what wrong did the Jews do by your own standards?
Again, if only north Africans were allowed to buy Palestine land don't you see the racism?
Still on that, what prove do you have that most of the land bought by Jews were got with fake passports. How many Jews were caught?
Lastly, you claim they bought national lands, every land is national land and if the government of the day sells national lands, how is that illegal?

Every land is not government land. Your useless support for shylock Jews is making you mad.
Under the Ottoman, Jews were prohibited from buying lands in Palestine. All the secondary measures they took to make those purchases is what makes it null and void. How did they buy?

tctrills:
This is one of the points you highlighted. You stated that the Jews used fraudulent means to obtain land. So we are right on point.

Thats the second point. And we are already discussing it. But you keep pushing one fake narrative that has no head or tail by the side.

Krismas:
Every land is not government land. Your useless support for shylock Jews is making you mad.
Under the Ottoman, Jews were prohibited from buying lands in Palestine. All the secondary measures they took to make those purchases is what makes it null and void. How did they buy?

You are right, every land is not government land and that's why the Jews also bought land from private land owners like the Sursock family and others. You mean Jews were forbidden to purchase land yet the government sold half of the land to them? Are you confusing yourself?
Again, if you feel they obtained the land illegally then go to court like every civilized person and don't take the law into your hands.
You see why the Arabs are animals?
I hope olawonder who you took this debate from is learning.

tctrills:
The Nigerian Land Use Act of 1978 is the primary legislation governing land ownership and administration in Nigeria. It vests all land in each state in the governor, who holds it in trust for the people.
Who was the government of Palestine? Was it not the Ottoman?

Why qoute Nigerian land law, when you are referring to Palestine?

Krismas:
Thats the second point. And we are already discussing it. But you keep pushing one fake narrative that has no head or tail by the side.

That's why you are here to prove that my narrative is fake. Do your job. Show the world how fake I am

Krismas:
Why nigerian land land law, when you are referring to Palestine?

Good, can you please quote Palestine land law, we are listening.

tctrills:
That's why you are here to prove that my narrative is fake. Do your job. Show the world how fake I am

U just an emotional Zionist troll. you do not deserve any further response

Krismas:
U just an emotional Zionist troll. you do not deserve any further response

Lol, I am the emotional one yet you are the first to start name calling. Funny boy.
I honestly love doing this with you. You keep showing me how right I am in my position. Anyway have a great day. olawonder see who took over your case.

tctrills:
Good, can you please quote Palestine land law, we are listening.

Can't u just answer the question?
Why quote nigerian land law, wen the discussion is Palestine?
Cos dat sounds senile to me

Krismas:
Can't u just answer the question?
Why quote nigerian land law, wen the discussion is Palestine?
Cos dat sounds senile to me

You are right about that, my bad. Now go ahead and quote Palestine law. Still don't forget it was you that spoke about the Fulani buying land in the south that's why I quoted Nigerian law. So please teach us ottoman land laws in Palestine.

tctrills:
Lol, I am the emotional one yet you are the first to start name calling. Funny boy.
I honestly love doing this with you. You keep showing me how right I am in my position. Anyway have a great day. olawonder see who took over your case.

I never said i have closed d discussion on the illegality, null and void states of jewish land purchases in Palestine. So i think we should keep it one discussion rather than two

Krismas:
I never said i have closed d discussion on the illegality, null and void of jewish land purchases in Palestine.

Let's summarize.
According to you, the Jews purchased half of Palestine. The Arabs then went to war to steal the land purchased by the Jews and lost the other half. Why should anyone pity them?

tctrills:
You are right about that, my bad. Now go ahead and quote Palestine law. Still don't forget it was you that spoke about the Fulani buying land in the south that's why I quoted Nigerian law. So please teach us ottoman land laws in Palestine.

Your multiple replies is intended to derail the discussion. I am going to ignore all other reply except one.

Krismas:
Your multiple replies is intended to derail the discussion. I am going to ignore all other reply except one.

Do whatever suits you. I will not teach a grown man how or what to reply.

tctrills:
Let's summarize.
According to you, the Jews purchased half of Palestine. The Arabs then went to war to steal the land purchased by the Jews and lost the other half. Why should anyone pity them?

Summary is
Jews fraudulently purchased half of Palestine.
With Arabs collaborating with the Jews to make fraudulent purchases
Arabs and Jews fall out on who the owner of Palestine should be.
Palestinians are dealing with the Jews first.
Palestinians to deal with the Arabs later

Krismas:
Your multiple replies is intended to derail the discussion. I am going to ignore all other reply except one.

More replies for your poor head.

Most of the land purchased by Jewish settlers in Palestine during the late 19th and early 20th centuries was sold by:

1. Absentee Landlords
These were wealthy Arab landowners, often based in cities like Beirut, Damascus, and Cairo, who owned large tracts of land in Palestine but did not live on or cultivate it themselves.

Many of them saw an opportunity to make a profit and sold land to Zionist organizations and Jewish settlers, sometimes without consulting or compensating the Arab tenant farmers who lived and worked on the land.

2. Local Arab Landowners
A smaller portion of land was sold by local Palestinian Arab landowners, especially in urban areas or regions with commercial potential.

3. Ottoman and Later British Authorities
Under Ottoman rule (before 1917), land registration and ownership systems were complex, and legal loopholes allowed for large land acquisitions.

During the British Mandate period (1917–1948), Jewish organizations such as the Jewish National Fund (JNF) and Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PICA) legally purchased land for settlement

Krismas:
Summary is
Jews fraudulently purchased half of Palestine.
With Arabs collaborating with the Jews to make fraudulent purchases
Arabs and Jews fall out on who the owner of Palestine should be.
Palestinians are dealing with the Jews first.
Palestinians to deal with the Arabs later

You have no case here. If it was a fraudulent purchase, you should have gone to court. There is something called innocent until proven guilty. So far as you can't provide any court papers to show that the Jews are guilty, they remain innocent in the eyes of the law. QED.

tctrills:
You have no case here. If it was a fraudulent purchase, you should have gone to court. There is something called innocent until proven guilty. So far as you can't provide any court papers to show that the Jews are guilty, they remain innocent in the eyes of the law. QED.

About court, WHERE ARE THE RECEIPTS OF PURCHASE OF THE JEWS OF PALESTINE?
Then, to start your education. First read.
WHO SOLD PALESTINE?

ttps://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/columns/who-sold-palestine

tctrills:
More replies for your poor head.

Most of the land purchased by Jewish settlers in Palestine during the late 19th and early 20th centuries was sold by:

1. Absentee Landlords
These were wealthy Arab landowners, often based in cities like Beirut, Damascus, and Cairo, who owned large tracts of land in Palestine but did not live on or cultivate it themselves.

Many of them saw an opportunity to make a profit and sold land to Zionist organizations and Jewish settlers, sometimes without consulting or compensating the Arab tenant farmers who lived and worked on the land.

2. Local Arab Landowners
A smaller portion of land was sold by local Palestinian Arab landowners, especially in urban areas or regions with commercial potential.

3. Ottoman and Later British Authorities
Under Ottoman rule (before 1917), land registration and ownership systems were complex, and legal loopholes allowed for large land acquisitions.

During the British Mandate period (1917–1948), Jewish organizations such as the Jewish National Fund (JNF) and Palestine Jewish Colonization Association (PICA) legally purchased land for settlement

nonsense LIES

Krismas:
About court, WHERE ARE THE RECEIPTS OF PURCHASE OF THE JEWS OF PALESTINE?
Then, to start your education. First read.
WHO SOLD PALESTINE?

ttps://www.dailysabah.com/opinion/columns/who-sold-palestine

Good, so you have a case. Go to court. You are not a barbarian. We don't take laws into our hands. Go tell the courts that the Jews have no recipts until then, the Jews reman innocent until proven guilty..
The article you presented was just an opinion and it doesn't prove that the lands were illegally acquired.
Please from your article, point to the prove that Jews stole the land.

tctrills:
Good, so you have a case. Go to court. You are not a barbarian. We don't take laws into our hands. Go tell the courts that the Jews have no recipts until then, the Jews reman innocent until proven guilty..
The article you presented was just an opinion and it doesn't prove that the lands were illegally acquired.
Please from your article, point to the prove that Jews stole the land.

He has not even read the article yet he is dismissing it.
I asked you first, wots evidence the Jews bought any land to begin with.
Where is the proof?

Krismas:
He has not even read the article yet he is dismissing it.
I asked you first that the Jews bought any land to begin with.
Where is the proof?

You are my proof, you taught me that the Jews bought half of Palestine. If this were a court, I would say that I rely on the testimony of my opposing counsel.

tctrills:
You are my proof, you taught me that the Jews bought half of Palestine. If this were a court, I would say that I rely on the testimony of my opposing counsel.

Ofcourse you are misqouting me.
I never said any of what you saying.
Thats what i'll tell d court

Krismas:
Ofcourse you are misqouting me.
I never said any of what you saying.
Thats what i'll tell d court

Oh nice I will just pull up our conversation. Let me quote you word for word.
Summary is
Jews fraudulently purchased half of Palestine.
With Arabs collaborating with the Jews to make fraudulent purchases.
They bought all the lands under the Ottoman. They even had to overthrow Sultan Abdulhamid II, who prohibited land sales to Jews, so they could buy lands official gazetted as national lands.
All those purchases are null and void.

The lands they bought from individuals don't amount to much.
Rothschild bought 50% of Palestine from Ottoman, lands already gazetted as state lands. Its like buying the 3rd mainland bridge to me.

Your own words condemn you and prove you are very dishonest.

Clearly the debate is not that Jews bought land. You are accusing them of using fraudulent means to acquire the land. You are the accuser. It's up to you to provide evidence.
You don't accuse me and them ask me to provide evidence for you. Life is not that stupid.

tctrills:
Oh nice I will just pull up our conversation. Let me quote you word for word.
Summary is
Jews fraudulently purchased half of Palestine.
With Arabs collaborating with the Jews to make fraudulent purchases.
They bought all the lands under the Ottoman. They even had to overthrow Sultan Abdulhamid II, who prohibited land sales to Jews, so they could buy lands official gazetted as national lands.
All those purchases are null and void.

The lands they bought from individuals don't amount to much.
Rothschild bought 50% of Palestine from Ottoman, lands already gazetted as state lands. Its like buying the 3rd mainland bridge to me.

Your own words condemn you and prove you are very dishonest.

Clearly the debate is not that Jews bought land. You are accusing them of using fraudulent means to acquire the land. You are the accuser. It's up to you to provide evidence.
You don't accuse me and them ask me to provide evidence for you. Life is not that stupid.

I was using figure of speech to imply Jews bought nothing.
If i say AM ALL EARS. Does that mean am an ear?
If you have been to court b4, you would have realized dat you have to prove ur case on its own merit. And not on anything the opposing party said or did.
Even if i said am a thief, you have to prove to d court that I stole from you. He said he is a thief is irrelevant.
What is the prove israel bought lands in Palestine?
Who buys land to form a nation?

tctrills:
You are right, every land is not government land and that's why the Jews also bought land from private land owners like the Sursock family and others. You mean Jews were forbidden to purchase land yet the government sold half of the land to them? Are you confusing yourself?
Again, if you feel they obtained the land illegally then go to court like every civilized person and don't take the law into your hands.
You see why the Arabs are animals?
I hope olawonder who you took this debate from is learning.

You keep tagging me in your debates, you probably want to engage me still because you thought the half-backed history you have won you the debate…. it’s the very reason i ignored you, especially when I saw sending wikipidia links! Look, you need to first have an open mind, then have genuine intention to seek the true historical facts about the Israeli/palestinian conflict without any religious bigotry or bias, then maybe you’ll know the truth. And pls do yourself a favour, research with scholarly resources (available all over net) and real footages from proper historians (available on YouTube)… NOT wikipidia!
I lived in the mist of these people for 25yrs, I had been to Jerusalem (on a Muslim pilgrimage) and I had extensively followed news more than a decade…

In Palestine, there are indigenous people from the three Abrahamic faiths, all Arabs, till date many still don’t know there are Arab Jews (as there are Ethiopian, Pasian, Levantis and European Jews). There are those who migrated to the land (for protection from prosecution, who had to pay Jizya under the Islamic rule at the time) there were those migrated for religious purposes, and then there those who were pushed into the land because they were not wanted in Europe after WW2, and then there those want the land because of some beliefs of a messiah returning and the land needs purging of others in order for that to happen… and so on, and so forth!

olawonder:
You keep tagging me in your debates, you probably want to engage me still because you thought the half-backed history you have won you the debate…. it’s the very reason i ignored you, especially when I saw sending wikipidia links! Look, you need to first have an open mind, then have genuine intention to seek the true historical facts about the Israeli/palestinian conflict without any religious bigotry or bias, then maybe you’ll know the truth. And pls do yourself a favour, research with scholarly resources (available all over net) and real footages from proper historians (available on YouTube)… NOT wikipidia!
I lived in the mist of these people for 25yrs, I had been to Jerusalem (on a Muslim pilgrimage) and I had extensively followed news more than a decade…

In Palestine, there are indigenous people from the three Abrahamic faiths, all Arabs, till date many still don’t know there are Arab Jews (as there are Ethiopian, Pasian, Levantis and European Jews). There are those who migrated to the land (for protection from prosecution, who had to pay Jizya under the Islamic rule at the time) there were those migrated for religious purposes, and then there those who were pushed into the land because they were not wanted in Europe after WW2, and then there those want the land because of some beliefs of a messiah returning and the land needs purging of others in order for that to happen… and so on, and so forth!

Now you claim you get your facts from YouTube so let me help you with some YouTube videos. Thank me later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXitQhydpck?si=B302WSrafgRPwLi8

Please let me know if you need more videos since you prefer to watch than to read
Again, you present yourself as one without bias but we both know it's fake.
I have given you the opportunity to express yourself and all you keep doing is asking me to watch YouTube as if you kept anything there.
If you honestly knew nothing about the conflict, it's ok for you to keep quiet, follow the conversation and learn from others. Stop asking me to go to YouTube.

Krismas:
I was using figure of speech to imply Jews bought nothing.
If i say AM ALL EARS. Does that mean am an ear?
If you have been to court b4, you would have realized dat you have to prove ur case on its own merit. And not on anything the opposing party said or did.
Even if i said am a thief, you have to prove to d court that I stole from you. He said he is a thief is irrelevant.
What is the prove israel bought lands in Palestine?
Who buys land to form a nation?

Oga do yourself a favor are find the meaning of figure of speech.
Stop being an ignoramus.
You and the link you presented agree that Jews bought half of the land in Palestine.
I understand that you are no longer comfortable with that opinion but it is what it is. Now you have to produce evidence that their purchase was fraudulent.
Go ahead and give it your best shot.
I wonder why I have to be the one to prove my defence when you are the accuser. If you earlier testified that the Jews bought land from the ottoman, why do I need to prove that again? What kind of court is that. I only need to agree with you. But when you accuse me of fraudulent behavior, it's up to you to prove it. Do you now understand how the courts work?

tctrills:
Oga do yourself a favor are find the meaning of figure of speech.
Stop being an ignoramus.
You and the link you presented agree that Jews bought half of the land in Palestine.
I understand that you are no longer comfortable with that opinion but it is what it is. Now you have to produce evidence that their purchase was fraudulent.
Go ahead and give it your best shot.
I wonder why I have to be the one to prove my defence when you are the accuser. If you earlier testified that the Jews bought land from the ottoman, why do I need to prove that again? What kind of court is that. I only need to agree with you. But when you accuse me of fraudulent behavior, it's up to you to prove it. Do you now understand how the courts work?

U have no point. You just like arguing senselessly. I gave u a link to understand the modes the jews achieved the lands.
But apparently, u too lazy to even read the article, let alone understand it. Else thats what the discussion should have been centered around now. And not your fake lies.
Jews never had any permission from the Ottoman government to buy land.
Jews bought lands that were gazetted as state lands.
Its all in the article
Abi, what else do you need to be told about buying the 3rd mainland bridge?
Cos u know so much about figure of speech, yet u don't know buying a bridge is one