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Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Princedapace(m): 9:55pm On Apr 14, 2025
Botragelad:
Boy, Ukraine didn’t start this war, they’re ending it by defending their homes from a dictator who thinks land grabs(no valid reason) is fun. What’s “senseless” is acting like Ukrainians should just hand over their country because of Putin’s ego. Would you have done that if you were in Zelensky shoes?

The man was elected by Ukrainians. You know, the people actually living there? When Russia invaded, he didn’t flee, he stayed in Kyiv, in a warzone, wearing a T-shirt, while Putin cowered behind a 20-foot table. No one “used” him, they’re supplying arms. Stop crying about it.

Name one NATO country Russia hasn’t threatened, bullied, or invaded. I’ll wait. Ukraine wanted NATO membership for the same reason you might lock your doors at night, to keep murderers out. Putin’s entire operandi is “invade neighbors.

“The U.S. wouldn’t let Mexico join a Russian alliance!” blah blah blah. NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance. If Putin’s not planning to attack, why does he care?
Russia thought they’d take Kyiv in 3 days. Bout 3 years later, their “super army” is yet to do that. So much for a "world power"
Lol, a lot of u just cant read. Many top US analysist and politicians have shared with u all how this war started but una no go read. This war started way back in 2014. That was the first series of steps. The Core US wanted to weaken Russia without fighting her directly. When they are done with Russia, the next is China. Mark my words!
From the coup to protests, all were engineered by the US. Many well known analysts from US, Europe have all said this and gave comprehensive nature of the events that led to this.
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Tolu2024(m): 10:09pm On Apr 14, 2025
Botragelad:
Yes. And Ukraine is fighting China, Russia, Iran and North Korea. Agreed?
Then it time for NATO to send troops to Ukraine
What are their afraid of?
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by UrPapa: 10:21pm On Apr 14, 2025
Botragelad:
So it's not your war but you keep sticking your nose in it? Not your war, but you want Ukraine to wave the white flag and beg for peace? Maybe tell Israel to just roll over for Hamas too. That’s also not your war but somehow you’ve got opinions on that!

Can’t be playing both sides. If you’re too chicken to call out Putin and say what he really is then that’s just weak.
ukraine will be gone in days if he decides not to stick his nose
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by UrPapa: 10:24pm On Apr 14, 2025
Botragelad:
Boy, Ukraine didn’t start this war, they’re ending it by defending their homes from a dictator who thinks land grabs(no valid reason) is fun. What’s “senseless” is acting like Ukrainians should just hand over their country because of Putin’s ego. Would you have done that if you were in Zelensky shoes?

The man was elected by Ukrainians. You know, the people actually living there? When Russia invaded, he didn’t flee, he stayed in Kyiv, in a warzone, wearing a T-shirt, while Putin cowered behind a 20-foot table. No one “used” him, they’re supplying arms. Stop crying about it.

Name one NATO country Russia hasn’t threatened, bullied, or invaded. I’ll wait. Ukraine wanted NATO membership for the same reason you might lock your doors at night, to keep murderers out. Putin’s entire operandi is “invade neighbors.

“The U.S. wouldn’t let Mexico join a Russian alliance!” blah blah blah. NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance. If Putin’s not planning to attack, why does he care?
Russia thought they’d take Kyiv in 3 days. Bout 3 years later, their “super army” is yet to do that. So much for a "world power"
lol. If only the narrative is as direct like they made us believe
There’s more to the war than one country attack another because of nato imo
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by SugarRay001: 10:25pm On Apr 14, 2025
Emmizay12:
Funny how long you have lived on earth and still fall for this lies every politician uses
i dont see anywhere in my comment i implied anything like that,anyways i cant hold this convo,anything polithicians i am not game for it,,,,,
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Fuckyoumod: 10:26pm On Apr 14, 2025
God1000:
What about Israel-palestinian war you inherited, he has no problem with that as he keeps sending weapons to Israel worth billions of dollars to kill more civilians
To kill more terrorists!
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by tnerro1(m): 10:33pm On Apr 14, 2025
mrksquare:
Three decades ago, the newly independent country of Ukraine was briefly the third-largest nuclear power in the world.

Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.

In exchange, the U.S. and the U.K would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum. And the agreement was that they would always stand for Ukraine in the event of any aggression.

Today the same United States under Donald Trump has betrayed the people of Ukraine.
Lie lie, that agreement was never signed, Abi na you sign am
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Adakintroy: 10:38pm On Apr 14, 2025
LordBiden:
Hey Donnie,remember you lied to the American people you did end the war within 24hrs of taking charge but up till now you still have no clue on how to end it.
Why are you all like this. He gave zelenski a part to peace. But Instead of the world acknowledging it, They were more concern about the way zenlenski was addressed. Very petty people. Thank God it's on record Trump said he wanted peace
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by TenQ: 10:48pm On Apr 14, 2025
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Let them veto! Ukraine would've fought Russia then. The war they evaded then is the one they are fighting now. Mao worked hard to build nuclear stockpile for china, he said it in the 40s o, that if china fails to own nuclear weapons, they can be bullied by countries that have it. Did you observe how US invaded Afghanistan claiming they were looking for Bin laden because Afghanistan had no nuclear weapons only for them to sneak into Pakistan to kill Osama and run out in less than an hour? Ownership of nuclear weapons is the reason why America has not invaded NK.
The problem was that the major condition for granting the sovereignty of Ukraine was for it to relinquish it's nuclear arsenal.


Unfortunately, Russia , USA and France can always veto that Ukraine never have independence from Russia if they didn't give up their nukes.

Unfortunately, it's the same singular reason Russia is attacking Ukraine. If Ukraine had nukes, Russia wouldn't dare attack it
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by mrksquare: 10:49pm On Apr 14, 2025
tnerro1:
Lie lie, that agreement was never signed, Abi na you sign am
To think in this era of Google and chatGPT you will be labeling me liar for my post is quite unfortunate. It really shows how absymal our educational system has nosedive.

Did you fact-check my post to ascertain it's veracity? I am really disappointed
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by obainojazz(m): 12:26am On Apr 15, 2025
Malroux:
Ukraine is fighting a senseless war. Zelensky was used by the west to test the might of Russia, and sadly, they are paying for it. Why would Ukraine even dream of joining NATO to begin with, knowing fully well that the United States of America will never allow their neighbors like Mexico to join any alliance that has Russia as the leader.
That’s why you’re African… can’t stand up for yourself.
When another country invades yours, don’t fight back and just let them take over your ways of life.

Olodo rapata
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Nobody: 12:37am On Apr 15, 2025
LordBiden:
Hey Donnie,remember you lied to the American people you did end the war within 24hrs of taking charge but up till now you still have no clue on how to end it.
Don't mind him grin
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Nobody: 12:44am On Apr 15, 2025
NATO is indeed a defensive alliance for itself. Putin would've invaded many European countries if they weren't part of NATO. Why do you think Sweden and Finland rushed to join NATO after Russia invaded Ukraine?

NATO is not perfect though. They have their own shortcomings. Not a fan of any country meddling in another country's business like what happened to Libya.

Moniya4Real:
Lolz" NATO is a defensive alliance".. just listen to yourself. Ask yourself which of it's member it has defended. An alliance that has done virtually the opposite of what it claims to represent. I bet you got no pity for the destruction of Libya by your supposed defensive alliance . Western ass licker.
FYI- I am neither a fan of either US or Russia but a pan-Africanist to the chore.
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by PlanetZero: 1:23am On Apr 15, 2025
Malroux:
Ukraine is fighting a senseless war. Zelensky was used by the west to test the might of Russia, and sadly, they are paying for it. Why would Ukraine even dream of joining NATO to begin with, knowing fully well that the United States of America will never allow their neighbors like Mexico to join any alliance that has Russia as the leader.
Last i check Ukraine is a sovereign nation and let that stick into your head.

When a bully enter your house and decide to rape your family, give the bully a go ahead since he stronger than you

I hate it when some of you weaklings want everyone to be like you. Always chickening out like a timid dog

Never blame a man defending his nation. You can leave your own family defenseless. Rubbish. Always spewing the same nato this nato that nonsense. It is a sovereign nation
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by heniford2: 1:35am On Apr 15, 2025
LordBiden:
Hey Donnie,remember you lied to the American people you did end the war within 24hrs of taking charge but up till now you still have no clue on how to end it.
he never said so
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Ilekokonit: 3:18am On Apr 15, 2025
Trump is fast becoming a nuisance.
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Bobbynobobby: 3:46am On Apr 15, 2025
fergie001:
This is coming after Russia missiles killed 34 persons including children at Sumy in Ukraine on Palm Sunday


Donald Trump


Trump at the Oval Office today;
Millions of people dead because of 3 people. The same way the man boldly declared and enforced that there are only two genders. I'm not his fan and say what you will but more and more it is becoming clear this man is on the side of truth and justice
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Dannydavito: 5:13am On Apr 15, 2025
Always trading blames as if he is the most righteous leader.
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by sulaak(m): 5:24am On Apr 15, 2025
Botragelad:
Boy, Ukraine didn’t start this war, they’re ending it by defending their homes from a dictator who thinks land grabs(no valid reason) is fun. What’s “senseless” is acting like Ukrainians should just hand over their country because of Putin’s ego. Would you have done that if you were in Zelensky shoes?

The man was elected by Ukrainians. You know, the people actually living there? When Russia invaded, he didn’t flee, he stayed in Kyiv, in a warzone, wearing a T-shirt, while Putin cowered behind a 20-foot table. No one “used” him, they’re supplying arms. Stop crying about it.

Name one NATO country Russia hasn’t threatened, bullied, or invaded. I’ll wait. Ukraine wanted NATO membership for the same reason you might lock your doors at night, to keep murderers out. Putin’s entire operandi is “invade neighbors.

“The U.S. wouldn’t let Mexico join a Russian alliance!” blah blah blah. NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance. If Putin’s not planning to attack, why does he care?
Russia thought they’d take Kyiv in 3 days. Bout 3 years later, their “super army” is yet to do that. So much for a "world power"
Ukraine started the war when they started prosecuting Russian-speaking Ukrainians and started the process of joining NATO,, which is a threat to Russia. This the consequence of his stupid decision.


In the 1960s, the USA threatened to attack Cuba because Russia was building a missile base in Cuba.
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by darediamond(m): 5:50am On Apr 15, 2025
mrksquare:
Three decades ago, the newly independent country of Ukraine was briefly the third-largest nuclear power in the world.

Thousands of nuclear arms had been left on Ukrainian soil by Moscow after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. But in the years that followed, Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize.

In exchange, the U.S. and the U.K would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum. And the agreement was that they would always stand for Ukraine in the event of any aggression.

Today the same United States under Donald Trump has betrayed the people of Ukraine.
How would UKRAIN activates the Bombs for combat when the unlocking codes are not disclose to them while still in USSR?
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by darediamond(m): 5:55am On Apr 15, 2025
TheStranger:
People that alleges that Israel is land grabbing are still the ones supporting Russia land grabbing
The Israelis are Black Skinned not White!
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by darediamond(m): 5:58am On Apr 15, 2025
blacksam01:
There is a very simple way to end this war...

The US should position all it's nuclear arsenal at Russia and get them ready to fire.. if Russia fires a nuclear weapon...

Japan, Korea, Australia, Canada, Philippines should all ready there armies and focus all their weapons on china and mobilize for full blown war with it.. if it attacked Ukraine or the US in a bid to support Russia...

Let France ND Britain also readies all it's nuclear arsenal at Russia on the even it fires nuclear weapons...

ND now.. let them keep supplying Ukraine with longest ranges of weapons and authorized them to fire into Russian civilians infrastructure and people... In reciprocating Russian attack..

That is if RUssia fires at civilians skls, let Ukraine fire at civilians skls, if Russia fires at market, let Ukraine fires at market..if Russia invite state soldiers in support on ground.. let one of the EU and NATO country jump into the war ND send men on ground to reciprocate Russia...

Anything Russia does, they should reciprocate....

That way... Russia will stop...
Wao!
Clap for ya self!!
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by darediamond(m): 6:02am On Apr 15, 2025
Pacesetter123:
Also talk about the agreement the same people you mentioned had with Russia that they would never expand NATO membership to include any of the former USSR territory upon the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Today,what happened?
It's only Budapest agreement that you see.
You they mind the slowpoke and His likes on Nairaland and Africa in general?
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by darediamond(m): 6:09am On Apr 15, 2025
LifeofDream:
I don reply the liar.. I still remember that like yesterday, it was during the G20 meeting in India..

I cannot forget how Biden was trying to convince the world that it wasn't Russia missile, president of United state turn into Putin spokesman... cheesy
"United state turn into Putin spokesman"
grin grin grin
I still remember the funny event.
War mongers in the Unipolar World of NATO owners are cowards who likes to kill but afraid are always afraid of DEATH.
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Edusouls(m): 6:15am On Apr 15, 2025
Botragelad:
Boy, Ukraine didn’t start this war, they’re ending it by defending their homes from a dictator who thinks land grabs(no valid reason) is fun. What’s “senseless” is acting like Ukrainians should just hand over their country because of Putin’s ego. Would you have done that if you were in Zelensky shoes?

The man was elected by Ukrainians. You know, the people actually living there? When Russia invaded, he didn’t flee, he stayed in Kyiv, in a warzone, wearing a T-shirt, while Putin cowered behind a 20-foot table. No one “used” him, they’re supplying arms. Stop crying about it.

Name one NATO country Russia hasn’t threatened, bullied, or invaded. I’ll wait. Ukraine wanted NATO membership for the same reason you might lock your doors at night, to keep murderers out. Putin’s entire operandi is “invade neighbors.

“The U.S. wouldn’t let Mexico join a Russian alliance!” blah blah blah. NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance. If Putin’s not planning to attack, why does he care?
Russia thought they’d take Kyiv in 3 days. Bout 3 years later, their “super army” is yet to do that. So much for a "world power" USA caused the war 100% what did they think when meddling in Russias backyard? USA invaded Iraq under the pretext of having weapons of mass destruction, Afghanistan, destroyed Libya, Kosovo, Vietnam, wasting millions of lives in each, their weapons were used to destroy Gaza wasting thousands of lives, please tell me how many nations Russia had invaded and destroyed?
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Edusouls(m): 6:17am On Apr 15, 2025
darediamond:
How would UKRAIN activates the Bombs for combat when the unlocking codes are not disclose to them while still in USSR?
don’t mind uninformed mofos all over nairaland
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Kavod: 6:42am On Apr 15, 2025
Botragelad:
Boy, Ukraine didn’t start this war, they’re ending it by defending their homes from a dictator who thinks land grabs(no valid reason) is fun. What’s “senseless” is acting like Ukrainians should just hand over their country because of Putin’s ego. Would you have done that if you were in Zelensky shoes?

The man was elected by Ukrainians. You know, the people actually living there? When Russia invaded, he didn’t flee, he stayed in Kyiv, in a warzone, wearing a T-shirt, while Putin cowered behind a 20-foot table. No one “used” him, they’re supplying arms. Stop crying about it.

Name one NATO country Russia hasn’t threatened, bullied, or invaded. I’ll wait. Ukraine wanted NATO membership for the same reason you might lock your doors at night, to keep murderers out. Putin’s entire operandi is “invade neighbors.

“The U.S. wouldn’t let Mexico join a Russian alliance!” blah blah blah. NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance. If Putin’s not planning to attack, why does he care?
Russia thought they’d take Kyiv in 3 days. Bout 3 years later, their “super army” is yet to do that. So much for a "world power"
THE IDEA OF THIS WAR IS A LESSON, THIS IS NOT A WAR PER SAY ITS BROTHERS FIGHTING EACH OTHER BECAUSE OF A STRANGER. MOST OF YOU WANT PUTIN TO ACT LIKE A BLOOD THIRSTY VILLAIN AS THE WEST AND THEIR ALLIES DO. SEE SMALL GAZE, SEE IRAQ, SEE AFGHANISTAN, THE ISSUE WITH SMALL MINDED STRATEGIST IS THAT THEY FOOLISHLY GO ALL IN. IF PUTIN GOES ALL IN WITH THE BEST OF HIS DEFENCE AGAINST UKRAINE I ASSURE YOU IT WOULD BE OVER IN ONE WEEK.
BUT HE HAS OUTSMARTED THE FULL WEST, NATO AND THE JEWS NOTE "ZELENSKY NA JEW" RUSSIA BACKDOOR OFFERS SUPPORT TO YEMEN, IRAN, NORTH KOREA TOO YOU SEE HOW YOUTHIS IS BRINGING DOWN AMERICA SUPER KILLER DRONES, WHOSE WEAPONS ARE THEY USING? EVEN THEIR EMBARGO, RESTRICTIONS, BLA BLA BLA DID NOT ALTER RUSSIAN ECONOMY, CHECK THE PRICE OF ORDINARY FUEL IN RUSSIA BEFORE AND AFTER THE WAR, GO NOW AND CHECK PRICE OF THAT SAME COMMODITY IN US, UK, ISREAL, POLAND ETC ETC FRANCE TOO 😂.

GIVE PUTIN HIS FLOWERS.
SEE MOVE WHEN FRANCE DE JUMP WITH FULL CHEST DE SUPPORT UKRAINE, PUTING JUST SIMPLY WENT AFTER THEIR FINANCES WHICH WAS THEIR FRANCOPHONE NATIONS AND LIBERATED THEM HENCE THEM TRAORE AND CO. 🤣
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by TheStranger: 6:50am On Apr 15, 2025
darediamond:
The Israelis are Black Skinned not White!
What's the colour of their skiñ got to do with land grabbing?
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 7:22am On Apr 15, 2025
TenQ:
The problem was that the major condition for granting the sovereignty of Ukraine was for it to relinquish it's nuclear arsenal.


Unfortunately, Russia , USA and France can always veto that Ukraine never have independence from Russia if they didn't give up their nukes.

Unfortunately, it's the same singular reason Russia is attacking Ukraine. If Ukraine had nukes, Russia wouldn't dare attack it
That's very sad. Trump violates the terms of the Budapest memorandum and says "ot is not my war!" How sad.
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by TenQ: 7:31am On Apr 15, 2025
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
That's very sad. Trump violates the terms of the Budapest memorandum and says "ot is not my war!" How sad.
It is sad indeed!
Trump has shattered NATO irrevocably: we all now know that Article 5 is not serious.

It will take another 30 years for subsequent American Presidents to correct the damage Trump has done.

America can not be trusted to back up their promises to anyone: not even EU
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Flamemignon1(m): 7:32am On Apr 15, 2025
AfahaAbia:
Sleepy Joe was dumb
If you know nothing about war then it's best you keep shut
Re: Not My War, Biden & Zelenskyy Did A Bad Job - Trump Exonerates Self by Flamemignon1(m): 7:36am On Apr 15, 2025
Moniya4Real:
Lolz" NATO is a defensive alliance".. just listen to yourself. Ask yourself which of it's member it has defended. An alliance that has done virtually the opposite of what it claims to represent. I bet you got no pity for the destruction of Libya by your supposed defensive alliance . Western ass licker.
FYI- I am neither a fan of either US or Russia but a pan-Africanist to the chore.
It's pronounced "core" not "chore". Also if you are a pan Africanist that's rooted in bigotry, why you can put mouth for d mata? You would've scrolled past it and let people who aren't speak on the matter
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