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Truths9ja:
Pastor Abel Damina says that Pastor David Ibiyomie is Kasongo


“Kasongo Yeye…” Jesus and the Poor.

From the series, The Church of God in Service (Part 46) by Dr. Damina.


#abeldamina
#davidibiyeomie
#church
#kasongo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ZsvJKNfVg

ebenholer2:
ALL I KNOW IS THAT FOR AS MANY WHO WERE POOR IN THE BEGINNING, THEY AUTOMATICALLY BECAME RICH ON MEETING WITH JESUS.
JESUS CHRIST DID NOT LEAVE THEM WRETCHED BUT CHANGED THEIR SITUATION.
WE NEED NOT GLORIFY POVERTY. NO ONE IS MEANT TO BE POOR AND NO ONE WAS CREATED TO BE POOR BUT LACK OF GODLY DIRECTION PERVERTED MANY PEOPLE'S LIFE THEREBY THEY NOW THINK THEY ARE DESTINED TO BE POOR.

jaxxy:
I have seen recent manner pastors call out each other on social media like they are fighting for relevance. its a show of Shame to Christianity.

rabzy:
Christendom has been shameful for centuries now, from the great apostasy around 100ce to the usurpation of power by catholism and their unholy pope, to the derailment of the reformation and to the current abomination of the daddy GOs and pastorprenuers of today.

SmellingAnus:
When trying to speak the truth, don't use false teachings like many of those Pastors to proove your point... Even Paul struck Bar Jesus with blindness, it is beliefs like this , that has put Christians as lambs to be slaughtered in the North because they know false teachings like this will come up in order to make them keep quiet meanwhile Israel is dealing with it's enemies just as the Israelites of old killed their enemies..

SIRTee15:
We won't see the glory of the Father in heaven because HE is invisible who dwells in an unapproachable light.

Instead, We will see the Father through the Son. That's why Jesus said 'If you have seen me, you have seen the Father"

as per the verse u quoted Rev 22.3-5. it mentioned the throne of God and the lamb, not thrones of God and the lamb. ONE THRONE NOT TWO THRONES.
NOW TELL ME TELL WHO IS SEATED ON THAT THRONE

ebenholer2:
ALL I KNOW IS THAT FOR AS MANY WHO WERE POOR IN THE BEGINNING, THEY AUTOMATICALLY BECAME RICH ON MEETING WITH JESUS.
JESUS CHRIST DID NOT LEAVE THEM WRETCHED BUT CHANGED THEIR SITUATION.
WE NEED NOT GLORIFY POVERTY. NO ONE IS MEANT TO BE POOR AND NO ONE WAS CREATED TO BE POOR BUT LACK OF GODLY DIRECTION PERVERTED MANY PEOPLE'S LIFE THEREBY THEY NOW THINK THEY ARE DESTINED TO BE POOR.

fxexperts:
Oshee Assistant Jesus. What do you even know, you that is here talking do you like poor people? do you even like yourself when you are poor? I believe most of you guys are just twisting what Pastor Ibiyeoma said. The truth is no one on earth likes poor people. Even poor people do not like themselves.

You are just an hypocrite.

jaxxy:
Hmmm that's some history are u Christian or Muslim or atheist?

Truthseeker10:
Are you insinuating that Jesus is equal to his Father?

Westerhoffe:
The Bible said there that we shall see His face.
Seeing the FATHER through the Son?
The Bible mentioned one throne indeed, not two thrones; what does that tell you?
Our LORD JESUS CHRIST said:

“To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.”
— Revelation 3:21 (KJV)

What is this verse telling you?

SIRTee15:
John 5.18 is your answer.

For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

Truthseeker10:
So if you call God your father, you are making yourself equal to God?

rabzy:
I am a historian, the true Christians were those early Christians who championed love for fellowmen, who saw themselves as brothers and equals, who shared their belongings amongst the poor because being poor in the Roman world was the norm, 99 percent of the people were poor and over 80 percent were slaves. That is the wold that Jesus was born into and he didn't change it when he died, so how can he be said to hate the poor or poverty. Jesus gave them hope so that even if you are poor or a slave, the father still loves you and you can attain the kingdom of God. He routinely rain curses son the rich, the high, the mighty and the oppressors of his time.

These frauds parading themselves now as pastors are white-washed graves and offerings of vipers, blind guides leading the blind. No wonder they say the most nonsensical things you can imagine with great arrogance.

SIRTee15:
so u mean both Jesus and his Father will sit on one throne?
are u saying the 2 of them will share one throne

The face of God is his glory- learn about anthropomorphism.

Westerhoffe:
What do you even call GOD?
Do you think GOD is limited by space and matter?

When the LORD JESUS CHRIST said what He said there, do you think He's saying, "I and my FATHER will constrain ourselves to one seat because we are limited by space and matter."

GOD IS A SPIRIT!

There was a time GOD showed Himself to me. He was full of majesty and glory, and right as He was standing about 30 feet away from me, as a single person standing, I could see three personalities manifesting in Him. All three personalities looked exactly the same, yet you could see the difference that still could not be differentiated. All three personalities were in a single person standing.

What about what sounds like the welcoming song and musicals that rang before He manifested?
My friend, walk with GOD in the Spirit, and you will know deep things that have not been written in any books you have ever read.

Walk with GOD to know the Mysteries of the Personality of GOD.

SIRTee15:
John 5.18 is about Jesus, the Son of God

The Jews accused him of breaking the sabbath and he replied that he's not bound by the sabbath law just like his Father isn't bound by it. thata's the context of the verse.

EmperorIsaac:
The New Covenant is not one of "an eye for an eye" covenant! You know that...

SmellingAnus:
And Paul Struck Bar Jesus with blindness... It's your choice if you refuse to do nothing in the face of persecution, ...

SIRTee15:
My friend, your testimony is a subjective evidence. It's your own truth.

We want objective evidence here which is what's written in the scripture.

U were the one who brought the issue of people sitting on a throne in the first place. And I asked U, how many people are sitting on the throne since we both agreed there's only one throne.

It's funny U making reference to space and matter to nullify why 2 people can't sit on a throne.
What U are ignorant of is that for any person to sit on the throne in the first place, U need space and matter.

Without space and matter, U can't sit on a throne or anything at all. Space is what enables U to sit down.

That's why I told U to go and read anthropomorphism.

John was taking to heaven in the spirit. What he wrote down was a vision, it was not a direct sight seeing.
Nobody is sitting on a physical throne in heaven.

Throne in heaven simply means highest level of majesty while face of God means his glory.

Westerhoffe:
So, to you, what John saw does not exist? Or is it just a dream?
Oh! I should have known you understand nothing of what I am saying even. So it's absolutely pointless discussing or explaining mysteries to someone like you.

When talking about GOD, don't you ever bring in anthropomorphism again.
You limit the capability of GOD in your words.
GOD is a Spirit, and He is not limited to space and matter because He created it, and He is outside of it.

What I saw is not my truth, but the truth of the personality of GOD in the form He manifested Himself to me. I don't need you to believe or not.

Truthseeker10:
So how does all of that mean that he said he was equal to the Father?

Truthseeker10:
So the bible says that Jesus hated poor people?

Truths9ja:
Pastor Abel Damina says that Pastor David Ibiyomie is Kasongo


“Kasongo Yeye…” Jesus and the Poor.

From the series, The Church of God in Service (Part 46) by Dr. Damina.


#abeldamina
#davidibiyeomie
#church
#kasongo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3ZsvJKNfVg

SIRTee15:
Then if God is a spirit, how can he have a face?

If God is a spirit, how can he be seen by John sitting on a physical throne?

If God is outside time and space, how can he sit on a throne. U need space to sit down my friend.

See as U are contradicting yourself up and down.

John himself said he was taken to heaven in the spirit, he didn't go to heaven physically.

Revelation 1
On the Lord’s Day I was in the Spirit, and I heard behind me a loud voice like a trumpet,


His vision was presented to him as anthropomorphism.

This is what Paul has to say about status of God in heaven.


1 Timothy 6.16
He alone is immortality, and he lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach him. No human eye has ever seen him, nor ever will. All honor and power to him forever! Amen.

So if U are telling me God visited U and saw his face physically in your revelation, I don't know what to say but it seems U are calling the scripture false.

This is what John himself u claim went to heaven physically has to say about visibility status of God.


John 1
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


A lot of U need lesson on bible theology, serious bible lesson.

I repeat Your personal testament is your own truth. Nothing more than that.

fxexperts:
He never said the bible said so. he was only giving an illustration and you folks allowed some miscreants to exploit your emotions.

SIRTee15:
Did U read that passage or U just want to argue.

The Jews said his statement connotes equality with the Father and wanted to kill him for saying such.

Truthseeker10:
Kindly show me where Jesus said he was equal with the Father since you are claiming that The jews were correct in their deduction.

SIRTee15:
Let me ask u 2 questions.

1. are u Jehovah witness?

2. Does God have a body?