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Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Chickensoup: 8:35pm On Apr 23, 2025
superlanny:
Zelensky, the comedian who became a president, a president who has become one of the greatest men in history.

Before this war started, ignoramuses said the war would end in less than a month and Putin was all that, powerful and merciless.

A few years down the line, Ukraine is still standing, fighting for its homeland, fighting against impunity and the madness of Putin.

Zelensky is a man that would die defending his people and he has done that without looking back. I hope NATO and Sensible European countries keep backing Ukraine in this war against Russia. Trump can continue to lick Putin's balls for all I care.

Slava Ukraine!!!
What do you mean Zelensky will die defending Ukraine. Is it by speech? Trump is being real whether you take it or not. Even if US is supporting Russia, what is the problem with that. Every country should work towards what benefits them.
What has Zelensky done that other war presidents didn't do?
I pity the two countries however Trump was very spot on.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Guestmale: 8:41pm On Apr 23, 2025
ledaman:
Do you think Russia is fighting only Ukraine?
More than 10 European Nations and Including America are supplying Ukraine weapons and Ammunitions .
You think if it was Only Ukraine it wouldn't have been this long. Zelenkyy would have fled Since.
With Russia population of about 4 times of Ukraine and landmass of more than 15 times of Ukraine yet Putin hired mercenaries from North Korea and with steady weapons supplies from Iran and north Korea it couldn't defeat Ukraine.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by VEHINTOLAR: 8:42pm On Apr 23, 2025
Zelensky is presenting himself as an obstacle to the peace. He needs to be very careful not to lose his life this way! He should stop being stupid - there is no amount of weapons or any other form of assistance donated/rendered to his country which can make Ukraine to defeat Russia. It's just impossible!

Trump is just being realistic here,and it will be quite unfortunate if Zelensky fails to grasp the simple message.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Zeebuy: 8:54pm On Apr 23, 2025
blacksam01:
Stop saying this terrible things.... Which one is allowed his country... Is he supposed to thank Russia for invasion ND hand them chunks of territory
Most of y'all saying this don't even know what causes this war. You think Russia just stood up one day and decided to invade Ukraine?
Na waa to una.
Zellensky messed up big time. Putin is doing what any other sensible ruler will do, he's protecting his people from external aggression.
I think most people support Ukraine because humans are generally wired to support whoever we think is the underdog in a fight, but the truth is that Ukraine has always been one of the countries with the strongest military in Europe. Even with billions of dollars in military aid, intelligence, armaments etc from more than 20 NATO countries, they're still having their asses handed to them.

Zellensky should've respected the Minsk Agreement, but instead he chose to allow the West use his country as a battleground between NATO and Russia
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Moveittothem: 8:55pm On Apr 23, 2025
blacksam01:
All US president are consistent with aiding Ukraine, and if trump is not just like he stirs up trade policies.. then u shld know that is not what America stands for..

Do u know that Ukraine declared English bas it's second national language, do u realize Americanism will grow rapidly in Ukraine if thUS help them win this war.. our tire out Russia...

Trump is missing Al that.. he forgot that there will b mad scramble for contract by major contractors to help re build Ukraine.. ND America will lose out.. he forgot that Ukraine now sees being a strong military might as a priority and the Us can tape into it by making all their military equipment of choice made in America...
.that guy trump does think far.. ND too big mouthed and boastful
There is more at risk, you only talking about few interests that wouldn't do much to US GDP.
Trump is talking about a risk of nuclear war or full blown war with Russia, something that outweighs any form of Us interest in this war.

Normalizing relations with Russia is far more beneficial to US than strengthening it's ties with Ukraine.
This is not time for emotions, this is politics, it's not for boys.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by ledaman: 8:55pm On Apr 23, 2025
Guestmale:
With Russia population of about 4 times of Ukraine and landmass of more than 15 times of Ukraine yet Putin hired mercenaries from North Korea and with steady weapons supplies from Iran and north Korea it couldn't defeat Ukraine.
I said it earlier, War is never won the way you analysed it.
Mind you, there are also rules of engagement.
If Russia were allowed to use her Military might on Ukraine it would have ended since.
As for mercenaries you mentioned, it's applicable to all nations fighting war to engage their allies for support.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by ledaman: 8:58pm On Apr 23, 2025
VEHINTOLAR:
Zelensky is presenting himself as an obstacle to the peace. He needs to be very careful not to lose his life this way! He should stop being stupid - there is no amount of weapons or any other form of assistance donated/rendered to his country which can make Ukraine to defeat Russia. It's just impossible!

Trump is just being realistic here,and it will be quite unfortunate if Zelensky fails to grasp the simple message.
His case will be like Samuel Doe of Liberia that was captured alive and humiliated publicly.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Originalsly: 9:00pm On Apr 23, 2025
Why would Russia sit back and allow Ukraine to join NATO and allow itself to be surrounded by NATO and US missiles and military bases? It's the same with Cuba .... the US wouldn't sit back and allow Russia or China to have missiles and bases in Cuba. This was a long standing agreement between Russia and NATO ... since the early 1990's. No US President or NATO country ever entertained the thought of Ukraine applying for membership until Biden came to power and made such demands through the comedian. Biden is the only US President to support this move.... Trump is voicing what all other US Presidents knew.....a war that should've never been. Zelensky is on his own.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by BondRiv: 9:06pm On Apr 23, 2025
Trump is right. Zelensky is a fool.

Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by ogyunging(m): 9:07pm On Apr 23, 2025
This Donatus guy dey always crack me up. Lol
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by blacksam01: 9:08pm On Apr 23, 2025
Moveittothem:
There is more at risk, you only talking about few interests that wouldn't do much to US GDP.
Trump is talking about a risk of nuclear war or full blown war with Russia, something that outweighs any form of Us interest in this war.

Normalizing relations with Russia is far more beneficial to US than strengthening it's ties with Ukraine.
This is not time for emotions, this is politics, it's not for boys.
Ok leme ask u this one question... What is American biggest export products ND sector that produces them...
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by uunwanaobong3: 9:09pm On Apr 23, 2025
tempex88:
His points are valid. If I were Ukraine, i will wait some years to be militarily strong enough to invade Russia to get it back. For now will just let go of Crimea
MY BROTHER, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

IF YOU THINK THAT UKRAINE STANDS ANY CHANCE AGAINST RUSSIA, THEN YOU ARE LIVING IN A CAVE.



TO SHOW YOU HOW FEARFUL ENTIRE EUROPE IS OF RUSSIA.... EUROPE AS A CONTINENT ALLOWS AMERICA TO COLONIZED THEM IN THE NAME OF NATO, SO THAT THEY CAN JOIN FORCE WITH AMERICA TO SECURE THEMSELVES AGAINST RUSSIA.

IF EUROPE + AMERICA + NATO CAN NOT FIGHT RUSSIA, DO YOU YOU THINK THAT ONLY A SMALL UKRAINE EVEN WITH THE BACKING OF NATO CAN FIGHT RUSSIA?

ENTIRE EUROPE HAS EMPTIED THEIR ARSENAL/WEAPON STORAGE FOR UKRAINE YET THE WAR SITUATION HAS NOT CHANGE.
AMERICA HAS DEPLETED THEMSELVES AND THEIR ARSENAL FOR UKRAINE, YET UKRAINE KEEP LOSING.


ACCORDING TO WALL STREET JOURNALS (AN AMERICAN NEWS OUTLET), RUSSIA PRODUCED 9 MILLION ARTILLERY SHELLS IN A YEAR WHILE ALSO SHIPPING ABOUT 4 MILLION ARTILLERY SHELLS FROM NORTH KOREA MAKING IT 13 MILLION SHELLS IN A YEAR WHILE ENTIRE NATO AND THE WEST STRUGGLED TO PRODUCED ABOUT 2 MILLION ARTILLERY SHELLS IN A YEAR, HOW CAN YOU WIN THIS KIND OF WAR.


MY BROTHER, THERE IS NOTHING AMERICA OR EUROPE CAN DO TO REVERSE THE OUTCOME OF THESE WAR.
THE WAR WAS LOST BEFORE IT EVEN STARTED.
THE ONLY THING THE WEST CAN DO IS TO PLEAD WITH PUTIN TO END THE WAR IN A WAY THAT WILL NOT EMBARRASSED THEM.

IF FRANCE OR UK SENT IN THEIR TROOPS WITHOUT PUTIN APPROVAL, THEY WILL BE SLAUGHTERED LIKE GOAT.

ONE AMERICAN MERCENARY WHO TRAVEL TO UKRAINE CONFESSED THAT WHEN THEY FOUGHT IN AFGHANISTAN, IT WAS EASY FOR THEM AS THEY HAVE AIR COVER, SO THEY WERE JUST PICKING THEIR TARGETS AS THEY WISHED. BUT WHEN HE WENT TO UKRAINE, I DIDN'T SEE ANY RUSSIAN SOLDIER TO KILL INSTEAD HE WAS RECEIVING LONG DISTANCE ARTILLERY BOMBARDMENT FROM ALL ANGLES AND HE WAS THE ONLY ONE SURVIVING TO TELL THE STORY.


SO THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENT BETWEEN FIGHTING GOAT AND CATTLE HERDERS IN AFGHANISTAN AND FIGHTING A SUPERPOWER IN RUSSIA.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by blacksam01: 9:12pm On Apr 23, 2025
BondRiv:
Trump is right. Zelensky is a fool.
The writer knows next to nothing about international politics and defence of Ukraine... Zelenzky succeeded in mobilizing the entire world in aid for Ukraine and they responded..

Zelenzky has killed more Russians that any other nations aside the Germans since it's creation... Something u never thought will happen.

Zelenzky has inflicted the most damage on the Russian economy since it's history

Zelenzky has attract the most sanctions on Russia more than any other nations on earth...

Joke with him at ur own peril...
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Guestmale:
ledaman:
I said it earlier, War is never won the way you analysed it.
Mind you, there are also rules of engagement.
If Russia were allowed to use her Military might on Ukraine it would have ended since.
As for mercenaries you mentioned, it's applicable to all nations fighting war to engage their allies for support.
Russia didn't respect any rule of engagement because if they are, they wouldn't be bombing residential areas killing innocent Ukrainian children and unarmed citizens as they are presently doing.

Russia have deployed all sorts of weapons including long range missiles, while Ukraine was not permitted to use it until the twilight of Biden's regime. The only weapon Russia has not deployed is nuclear bomb.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by blacksam01: 9:15pm On Apr 23, 2025
Zeebuy:
Most of y'all saying this don't even know what causes this war. You think Russia just stood up one day and decided to invade Ukraine?
Na waa to una.
Zellensky messed up big time. Putin is doing what any other sensible ruler will do, he's protecting his people from external aggression.
I think most people support Ukraine because humans are generally wired to support whoever we think is the underdog in a fight, but the truth is that Ukraine has always been one of the countries with the strongest military in Europe. Even with billions of dollars in military aid, intelligence, armaments etc from more than 20 NATO countries, they're still having their asses handed to them.

Zellensky should've respected the Minsk Agreement, but instead he chose to allow the West use his country as a battleground between NATO and Russia
Mr.. know it all.... So what causes the invasion and axxation of half of Georgia... By your Russia...?

Also the invasion of half of moldovia by Russia...? Ok... Ukraine also cuzed it or NATO did..?

Only a child waits till a bullet reaches u . If u can't understand body language, what kills ones father will definitely hit the son
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by BondRiv: 9:18pm On Apr 23, 2025
blacksam01:
The writer knows next to nothing about international politics and defence of Ukraine... Zelenzky succeeded in mobilizing the entire world in aid for Ukraine and they responded..

Zelenzky has killed more Russians that any other nations aside the Germans since it's creation... Something u never thought will happen.

Zelenzky has inflicted the most damage on the Russian economy since it's history

Zelenzky has attract the most sanctions on Russia more than any other nations on earth...

Joke with him at ur own peril...
It is not even a subject of debate. This is a war Ukraine cannot win. The support from mostly the U.S. and its allies was what sustained this conflict.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by GiftofGod77(m): 9:18pm On Apr 23, 2025
While I might not really like President Donald Trump's tone but he seems to be telling us the Bitter Truth I pray the war ends fast and the needless loss of lives stops...
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by TenQ: 9:27pm On Apr 23, 2025
Threedoorsdown:
Which is?

Should he not just agree to peace instead of more people dying?

Or did Russia claim any part of Ukraine in the war and won't vacate there if the war ends?
Shouldn't Putin agree to Peace after all, he was the one who INVADED another man's land.

On the day Putin AGREES to Return back to Russia, that same day, there would be PEACE: do you disagree with this?

Who should be the one to agree to Peace:
Is it the Armed Robbers or the Owner of the House?
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by WritterNg: 9:27pm On Apr 23, 2025
LordReed:
Two very different objectives. The US was not in Afghanistan conquering territory. The Russia tank column advancing on Kiev was obliterated. They ran with their tails between their legs.
Proof of them obliterated?? 🤡 🤡

Because I watched their retreat live on CNN.

And 2 western leaders confirmed that Putin ordered them to back down in good faith that Zelensky would sign the Instabul agreement.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Tolu2024(m): 9:37pm On Apr 23, 2025
superlanny:
Zelensky, the comedian who became a president, a president who has become one of the greatest men in history.

Before this war started, ignoramuses said the war would end in less than a month and Putin was all that, powerful and merciless.

A few years down the line, Ukraine is still standing, fighting for its homeland, fighting against impunity and the madness of Putin.

Zelensky is a man that would die defending his people and he has done that without looking back. I hope NATO and Sensible European countries keep backing Ukraine in this war against Russia. Trump can continue to lick Putin's balls for all I care.

Slava Ukraine!!!
USA
Replace Russia with USA and they will never survive without allies .

Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Threedoorsdown: 9:39pm On Apr 23, 2025
TenQ:
Shouldn't Putin agree to Peace after all, he was the one who INVADED another man's land.

On the day Putin AGREES to Return back to Russia, that same day, there would be PEACE: do you disagree with this?

Who should be the one to agree to Peace:
Is it the Armed Robbers or the Owner of the House?
You are right. Isn't this what Trump is putting on the table that he is refusing?

That's why i asked what he wanted. The deal is for both countries
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by omumeen534: 9:43pm On Apr 23, 2025
StUriah:
Peace without justice

Conceding to Russia without addressing Ukraine’s territorial integrity, security, or accountability for aggression would likely embolden Putin to resume hostilities later. Without justice, any peace deal risks being a temporary pause. It will destabilize Ukraine and reward Putin's authoritarian aggression, ensuring more conflicts in the
future.
You should go back to what actually cause fight in the first place.

Donetsk and Luhansk, Russians speaking dominated part in Ukraine accused the Ukrainian government of maltreatment. Freedom fighters rise up seeking for their independent and seek protection from Russia. Don't forget Ukraine herself is from defuncted USSR.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Guestmale: 9:46pm On Apr 23, 2025
TenQ:
Shouldn't Putin agree to Peace after all, he was the one who INVADED another man's land.

On the day Putin AGREES to Return back to Russia, that same day, there would be PEACE: do you disagree with this?

Who should be the one to agree to Peace:
Is it the Armed Robbers or the Owner of the House?
Exactly, Ukraine is not demanding for anything than for Russia to leave all their annexed territories and that is not too much for asking
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Cmanforall: 9:48pm On Apr 23, 2025
StUriah:
Peace without justice

Conceding to Russia without addressing Ukraine’s territorial integrity, security, or accountability for aggression would likely embolden Putin to resume hostilities later. Without justice, any peace deal risks being a temporary pause. It will destabilize Ukraine and reward Putin's authoritarian aggression, ensuring more conflicts in the
future.
But this territory has Russians/Russian descendants. Maybe a call for referendum won't favour Ukraine. A peaceful deal should be reached to stop this needless war
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Sundaymessi: 9:51pm On Apr 23, 2025
JuanDeDios:
How did Zelensky allow the West use his country against Putin?
Has NATO mounted the military base now in Ukraine?
Had Ukraine becomes a member of NATO now?
Just wake up.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Obapluto: 9:51pm On Apr 23, 2025
tunjijones:
Trump na werey.

Most he always threaten people.

Anyway, I feel the war was a needless war.

The Ukraine president allowed the west use his country as battle field against Putin. It's such a shame.
werey abi? U don't know anything man
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Maeve7: 9:54pm On Apr 23, 2025
Ask Ukraine to surrender to the aggressor.
The art of the deal.
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by frankmoney(m): 9:57pm On Apr 23, 2025
blacksam01:
Europe should simply declare war on Russia... Using everything they have.. and when they capture Russia 100% they never ever hand it back to the Balkans......

See why they will win.. Ukraine has reduced Russia to less than 50% troop and equipment wise...

Russia cannot now fight a multi facet war...

France and the UK also have nuclear weapon.. and shld not hesitate to use them on Russia if they dare try use there...

Putin only fears force not diplomacy
too much fantasy they do you bettee wake up. There is no alliance on earth that can invade and capture Russia or USA at the moment
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by emmadothings(m): 9:59pm On Apr 23, 2025
He meant to say Ukraine should surrender because he's because Putin gave him a deaf ear after all his bragging to end the war in 24hrs ... Trump is the most Timid and clueless president ever
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by Lawalemi(m): 10:00pm On Apr 23, 2025
Why is he always afraid to call out Putin?
Re: "Accept Peace Now Or Fight For Another Three Years And Lost"- Trump To Zelensky by JuanDeDios: 10:00pm On Apr 23, 2025
Sundaymessi:
Has NATO mounted the military base now in Ukraine?
Had Ukraine becomes a member of NATO now?
Just wake up.
What are you on about? Did NATO propose a build bases in Ukraine? Was Ukraine ever in the process of joining NATO?
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